Oct 15 2008Denis Leary on Autism

WHAT A DICK.........BUT I LIKE IT

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I f*cking love Denis Leary and I am totally picking up this book.

Thank you for not bashing him :).

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I forgive this fellow for this comment, because I know for a fact that he cries real tears into his pillow every single night, wishing aloud to the heavens above that he was actually funny. Once.

I park my car in handicapped spaces, while handicapped people, make handicapped faces...

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He is the Billy Shakespeare of the modern age! Fuck cancer and the horse it rode in on!

I agree with him. Obviously not on severe cases of autism in which the kid is almost completely incapacitated. But I think Asperger's for example is one of the most painfully overdiagnosed "syndromes" of the 21st century. As is ADHD.

People - and parents - like to make themselves feel better and feel justified in their suffering and shortcomings by attaching a scientific label to themselves or their children. But oh no, no one can accept that there is natural variation within a population like there is in every single species - like differences in how people learn, concentrate and handle and crave social situations - IT MUST BE AN ILLNESS ZOMG!

Yay for Denis Leary. Let's hope he doesn't pussy out and take this back.

I agree with him. Obviously not on severe cases of autism in which the kid is almost completely incapacitated. But I think Asperger's for example is one of the most painfully overdiagnosed "syndromes" of the 21st century. As is ADHD.

People - and parents - like to make themselves feel better and feel justified in their suffering and shortcomings by attaching a scientific label to themselves or their children. But oh no, no one can accept that there is natural variation within a population like there is in every single species - like differences in how people learn, concentrate and handle and crave social situations - IT MUST BE AN ILLNESS ZOMG!

I am so sorry for the double post. I'm going to go flog myself now.

The funny thing is: if you actually talk to people with genuine autism-spectrum disorders (including Asperger Syndrome, which is real), you won't hear them calling what they have an "illness". Different, Yes; ill, deficient or disabled, No. Many see themselves as better-off, and it's "normal" people who look retarded. So I think Denis has a point, regarding parents looking for a name for "the problem", when there might not (really) be any problem at all.

Denis Leary is the face of autism in america.

Its the fluoride in the water. Its making us all stupid !

I think there is some truth to what he said. Woman are having kids much later in life which is a problem. Additionally they end up dropping them off here or there for someone else to take care of them. Either way, the kids don't get the attention and early education they need to be successful let alone average.

Dennis Leary called it right.

Stupid fucking idiot God-dang parents that can't handle their kids.

No one needs to be having any more kids anyway in this over populated, enviromentally fucked up cesspool of an orb.

The best thing would be if every kid born would have some horrible disease worse than autism. Then they would die young and never reach adult hood.

We wouldn't need to embalm them, just chunk them in the clay and let them be fertilizer for the food we need to grow in order to feed everyone in this fucked up overpopulated world.

@13 Erica, I myself am suffering from a very little known syndome. It is called asgoat syndrone. My illness is I can keep my hands off my goats ass.

While many disorders are misdiagnosed and people like Jenny McCarthy are trying to hammer down a particular viewpoint down everyone's throat, autism is a real thing. We found out our child was autistic at age 3 and it's been, and will continue to be a long road.

There are few things more heartbreaking than seeing your kid lag behind, and it's NOT lazy parenting or stupidity on the part of the child - to claim that is ill informed and mean spirited.

I've always been a big Denis Leary fan and have a lot of respect for the guy for his charity work as well as his offbeat humor...hearing him basically slam my family for the sake of cheap humor just lost him a fan.

Short bus styled humor loses charm if it's your kid on the bus.

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I agree with him as well. Parent's lives are too busy now a days to fully commit to their children's well being.

@ 21 - lol

#14

Couldn't agree more with you, Erica. Also, don't apologize for double posts. This shitty ass asp.net setup on this forum doesn't have the dynamics/bandwidth or both to create post procedures in a timely fashion. And by timely fashion I mean posting 2KB of data within 30 seconds. Someone should be shot for how crappy this post module has become.

i agree with mr. leary. i work at an elementary school. next door to the "autistic" class. those kids are perfectly fine when things are going their way and explode into bone chilling shriek fits when they are being reprimanded. their parents spend 5 minutes here during parent conferences because they are: "too busy to deal with the issue" and "need their EX-Spouse to take more time off to deal with the unwanted bastard. people need to stop having kids to try and fix fucked up relationships, or keep a person around by force.... and if you already have one fucked up kid, STOP HAVING KIDS... DAMMIT

i agree with mr. leary. i work at an elementary school. next door to the "autistic" class. those kids are perfectly fine when things are going their way and explode into bone chilling shriek fits when they are being reprimanded. their parents spend 5 minutes here during parent conferences because they are: "too busy to deal with the issue" and "need their EX-Spouse to take more time off to deal with the unwanted bastard. people need to stop having kids to try and fix fucked up relationships, or keep a person around by force.... and if you already have one fucked up kid, STOP HAVING KIDS... DAMMIT

....I want to be offended by this but it just doesn't make any sense.

I think maybe he's trying to talk about ADD and mixed up his disorders...the rest of you clearly don't know how to think yourselves and have no idea what autism is. Autistic people are very rarely lazy or stupid. They have an entirely different relationship to their senses than normal people and a totally different way of processing information.

Do some fucking research and stop letting misinformed sensationalistic idiots sway you with your nonsense.

#20, since you are so concerned about over population why don't you make room for someone who has a soul and a brain and off yourself? I doubt you'd be missed.

#20,

I'm with you. The world is too crowded. Animals and stupid trees everywhere. Cut down the trees, kill the animals, and let's get some breathing room around here already! And welfare recipients, thanks for playing our game, we've got some great parting gifts for you.

We need to rework our abortion laws. I think that post-birth abortion would be the best avenue ... give the kid a chance to fight for his right to live. Any child should be up for abortion subject to parental consent up until high school graduation. Children can exempt themselves by strong academic performance, a good behavioral record and a clean bill of health. This process would allow for population control, but only by eliminating the bottom of our society as opposed to a random sampling. Henceforth, in-womb abortion would be illegalized.

Hey DUH--- #20

FUCK YOU.

Why don't you go finger your self. I heard you are out of mayonaise.

ASS HAT

Hey DUH--- #20

FUCK YOU.

Why don't you go finger your self. I heard you are out of mayonaise.

ASS HAT

While I'm no fan of Dennis Leary, I agree w/ him to an extent on autism. 30 or even 20 years ago we didn't have this boom since the late 90's of diagnoses of autism. I do believe there are significant cases of autism but if the diagnosis was indeed factual then we've got a full on epidemic of which nobody has addressed. The way I see it, and Dennis, we've got a shitload more bad parents looking for an easy way to answer for why their child isn't better socially developed than a child who's parents are fully involved w/ their child's upbringing.

All I know is that Trig and his mom have legitimate brain disorders (mental retardation).

Is this guy really ignorant? Or is there something seriously wrong with him?
And why the fuck are people on this thread agreeing with him?

Autism is seriously harmful to quality of life. It is a complex, severe genetic disorder that is extremely difficult to treat. It has NOTHING TO DO WITH LAZINESS. It is a real problem, and please believe me when I say parenting an autistic child requires a far different approach and outlook for your child. Imagine yourself as a parent, having to always hear such things about your own parental skills and your loved ones.

Has this asshole any idea how much of a financial hit autism therapy is over the lifetime a child? It is costly, and very, very difficult to treat. Criticizing parents who'll shell out big $ is mean-spirited in every way.

Why not just tell a parent of a cancer victim their kid is just unhealthy and chemotherapy does nothing?

This asshole needs to go to hell.

brilliant.

I'm glad to see so many people take a mature, skeptic viewpoint here. Again I doubt Leary is referring to the Leo Dicaprio-in-Gilbert-Grape-type-autism cases, which are pretty neurologically tangible.

But "learning difficulties", "social ineptitude"? Fuck off. Everyone has varying degrees of these. Where would you even draw the line anyway in Aspergers anyway. Damn psychologists trying to justify their jobs.

@29: Justin, I doubt it means anything but thank you for being one of the few commentors on this thread who has any idea what your talking about.

Leary is right to a degree. There are legitimate cases of autism. But others do use as a crutch. It is the same with ADD.

Leary is right to a degree. There are legitimate cases of autism. But others do use it as a crutch. It is the same with ADD.

Anybody who weighs in with grave seriousness about "mental disorders" is a weakling who sucks at the fetid teat of psychiatry.

We don't have an epidemic of psychiatric disorders in America. We have an epidemic of gutlessness.

Turn off the Dr. Phil Show, burn your self-help books, cancel your weekly visit to your psychiatrist or counselor, dry your tears, stop whining, and for once, take personal responsibility for your life. We're sick of carrying you.

i think i'm going to agree. it's like people who refuse to believe they have an ugly fucking little kid so they show you a shit ton of pictures you don't want to see.

dennis leary is so angry, i kind of like it.

#43 Susan, you just described every liberal democrat in America. Everything is someone else's fault. That is why this Country is in a downward spiral.

#20 and #27, I love you both! Misanthropy is fucking awesome!

Lydia--
shut the fuck up and get off of this page you cunt.
The whole point of this page is mean spirited.

get the hell back to where you came from you fucktard.

self righteous hag.

I know there are true cases of autism, however, his statement seems partially true. He sounds like an asshole for being over-general, "everyone with autism doesn't really have it".

I think our society is trained to put a label on everything because we're getting worse and worse at handling differences and people and things not in our control. It's also a great way to get rich if you own a pharmecutical company. He's partially right, half of these kids just need a switch to their butt and taken off the meds.

Eight years of a Republican presidency and six years of a Republican congressional majority is "why this Country is in a downward spiral."

Most of you responding to these posts are not parents, huh! Because it is clear from these posts that all of you are still children. DO NOT THROW STONES AT GLASS HOUSES....that goes for Denis Leary too! Oh and don't talk about something you don't know anything about...that's unless you're a Republican! :)

hey #47 its not misanthropy. blah blah blah you try teaching a lesson with spoiled kids that get life on a plate throwing tables and chairs around the classroom.

hey #47 its not misanthropy. blah blah blah you try teaching a lesson with spoiled kids that get life on a plate throwing tables and chairs around the classroom.

Unless you personally have a child with autism or Asperger's, you don't know what you are talking about. You need to walk in the shoes of someone who knows, before making such obvious, stupid remarks. Should Mr. Leary ever have children, I can only hope and pray his children are healthy and "typical"...shame on him!

Unless you personally have a child with autism or Asperger's, you don't know what you are talking about. You need to walk in the shoes of someone who knows, before making such obvious, stupid remarks. Should Mr. Leary ever have children, I can only hope and pray his children are healthy and "typical"...shame on him!

So true! Of course there are REAL cases of Autism, but like Leary, I believe that the majority of the cases are pure BULLSHIT! Look around....ask a total stranger on the street about their child and the 1st thing they'll say is, "Snotford, is a unique special snowflake with an umbrella spectrum of autism...I never tell him NO because that would stunt his creativity". I wish I were joking, but just about every fucking person in this Country has a "unique snowflake indigo child" (yeah, UNIQUE...just like everyone else!). Why do you think there are so many cases? Because most of them are horse shit!

In a way, each of us has an El Guapo to face. For some, shyness might be their El Guapo. For others, a lack of education might be their El Guapo. For us, El Guapo is a big, dangerous man who wants to kill us. But as sure as my name is Lucky Day, the people of Santa Poco can conquer their own personal El Guapo, who also happens to be *the actual* El Guapo!

LOL MOM #53 and #54....You are a Mom picking on the childfree and childless, yet you double post like a moron...LOL ROFL!

Bill Hicks called, he said Leary is still a joke stealing hack.

Autism is fucking faker than ADD though. Slap your kid more and maybe it won't be a drooling retard.

I used to be one of those people who thought autism was like in Rain Man.. and I would roll my eyes at people who said their kid had it and 'obviously' didn't.

Then my son was diagnosed with autism... and he is not what you typically think autism is.

Please realize everything is exaggerated on tv and in movies about this disorder and there are MANY types of autism.

Those who try and say the parents of these kids are lazy and don't care about their kids.. well my son has been the center of my entire universe since before he was born. I'm a stay at home mom and I'm in no way lazy or neglectful.

#43 Susan - My god did you hit the nail on the head. Unfortunately we are a nation that lets things happen to us, rather than making things happen.

And George Bush is the fucking king of retards, is there any doubt to why our country identified with him and put him into office not ONCE but TWICE!!! Yes, I'm talking to you - The hillbilly, gaybashing, overall wearing, fucktards from the south, along with the douche-bag fox news clones who call themselves rank and file republicans. You're the bottom of the gene pool and you don't even know it.

"Bill Hicks called, he said Leary is still a joke stealing hack."

That's so old. Even if Hicks hadn't died early, Leary eclipsed him long ago. Hicks took himself way too seriously and his act was funny only to a small group of worshipful "true believers." That's cult appeal, not talent. Leary is vastly more talented than that.

My God.

So why are they mad at Leary ? Shouldn't they be mad at whoever he stole this particular bit from ?

#59 Laura, I don't think anyone here, including myself, that agrees with Leary's statement is talking about you. You seem to be a genuine parent with a genuine case of a child with Autism. We are talking about and, frankly, quite sick of idiot, lazy ass parents who like to label kids Autistic just because they...shock of all shocks...act like children and throw tantrums. We're talking about BRATS and the fact that they get away with behavior fitting a serial killer just because the parents don't want to....actually "Parent". If I were you, I'd be royally pissed off at people like that, at psychiatrists that label children Autistic when they are clearly just spoiled brats, while your child has a TRUE case! All this watering down of true Autism is harmful to the parents of children with real disorders.

So, NO Laura, I'm not talking about you. Take care and I wish you much luck.

Hey? that was the title of my new book....

#52

Your post makes no sense what so ever.

Shows his ignorance. I am not inattentive, my husband not competitive but one of my three son's is Autistic and I didn't then not have I ever had a "shrink" tell me that he was. "Shrinks" don't diagnose Autism (at least not where I'm from).

That said - if he wants to talk about the rampant excuse making that many American's partake in than have it. If he wants to come off as a cynical wit than perhaps he shouldn't be so general in his statements. Otherwise, he and his wit will continue to come off as ignorant.

#67, if you feel offended, well then...maybe you're one of THOSE parents he is talking about. Otherwise, why would you take it so personally? If your child has a true case, then it's true. If your other kids are fine, and your 3rd isn't then it's obviously not your parenting skills. If you are all butt-hurt over the statements, then maybe your kid is a bratt - otherwise, he's not talking about YOU!

He's an asshole, he's an asshole, yo-dee-oh-dee-oh!

A-SS-HO-LE!

I view his comment to be more of a condemnation on today's shitty parenting, though it was brash. This country aborts as many babies as Yemen, they tend to be viewed as accessories more than humans. For those fortunate enough to make it to adolescence, their cumulative test scores are a joke b/c their torpid parents won't sit and work with them. It's very believable to think autism or ADD is conveniently used as an excuse.

Every one settle down. He never said anything hurtful towards kids who actually have autism. He is just ripping on parents who insist that something is legitimately wrong with their kids (clearly not Harvard-bound) as an excuse to cover up their lack of parenting skills. And the ground-zero comment is just another colorful way of saying DR. PHIL IS A USELESS PIECE OF SHIT. But we already knew that, didn't we? Whether or not you find Denis Leary funny is a totally different story. I think delivery accounts for some of the humor. If you look at Chris Rock's comedy in print I'm sure it has a totally different comedic value than it does when you hear and see him actually saying it.

i agree #64.

i know of one such person who was too lazy. she had four kids but was too lazy to work, let alone be bothered raising them, so her mom (who's a hypochondriac with tons of pills) raised them. the woman "tried" to kill herself, and i say so loosely, because anyone who really tries to kill themselves succeeds while all others are just trying for attention.

they put her in the nut house and eventually let her out. she somehow magically got 2 of the kids back and as soon as she did, she had them medicated for being too "hyper-active." were they? no, they are normal kids with normal energy levels. so the kids grew up using their ADD as crutch and got away with so much shit.

now her oldest daughter had a kid, and because she doesn't know what responsible parenting looks like, she doesn't want to deal with him and started cutting herself to drive the point home that she was too "crazy" to take care of him because it runs in the family. the little boy is an angel and a very happy baby that is now being raised by an aunt and uncle who will love him.

so yeah, it pisses me off when i see first hand that some people are too damn lazy to care for their children, and any amount of stress that child gives to the parent is attributed to some mental illness, sometimes on both parts.

if the kids are stupid, does that mean the parents are too?

So where are all of the autistic adults???

I'm not offended at all but he's off on the autism remark. People think they're kids have attention deficit disorder when they are dumb or lazy, not autism.. Autism isn't confused for being dumb or lazy, when you're kid won't look other human beings in the eye. He's just off on that. As for the Dr. Phil/ground zero remark... maybe it's a little insensitive... but I'm with you all the way, Dennis.

# 70 - Wow, bravo. Thanks for making some f*cking sense.

and # 72, thank you, too.

i could not agree with this man anymore than i do! freakin awesome!

#53 is the kind of mom Denis Leary is talking about, too busy reading gossip sites to take her child to play in a park.
Shame on you!.

All of you idiots defending fake illnesses I hope you are happy when you see your son/daughter spend 17 hours a day playing videogames or watching TV inside their dirty bedrooms for the next 40 years of their lives instead of being productive members of society.
Autism of course exists but I doubt it's as common as some doctors claim.

In what may be a chemical messenger speed record, I now hate him with the white-hot intensity of a thousand suns.

#20 Thank you. Too many people think because they don't understand a phenomenon then it doesn't exist. There is no shortage of people who are ignorant and proud of it.

#35 We also didn't have the obesity 20 or 30 years ago that we have now. Does that mean it can't exist? The increase in obesity, like the increase in autism spectrum disorders, is a result of an increasingly stressful life style. The stressors are not going away, they are going to get worse, and there will be more problems associated with it. And the people you are hurting by refusing to recognize an illness are children.

Here's a scary thought. Doesn't it seem like EVERY parent in America has a child with Umbrella Autistic symptoms? How many times have you heard your coworkers or even your friends when they begin their families, talk about the fact that their children are "special" with symptoms, disorders and (any and all) problems? Here's the scary part...our Government must pay for programs to handle these children, our Government has to support these families through adulthood. And many won't be able to find jobs or get training - so the Government will have to pay out funds to pay for financial support of ALL THESE CHILDREN diagnosed today. Won't this cripple our Country (and NO I meant no pun - I mean "seriously kill our Country off financially")?!!!! I say support the REAL and TRUE indisputable claims of Autism, but drop the Horse shit cases! I blame the medical community just as much as the parents - OBVIOUSLY I'm not blaming the parents with TRUE cases...

This is horrible. I enjoy "short bus" humor as much as the next person, but to say that somehow these parents WANT their children to have autism so they can explain away poor parenting is vile. This disorder is devastating for parents.

And for all of you who talk about "real" cases of autism, try spending an hour with a couple of these children. This disorder manifests differently in EVERY individual afflicted with it.

I admit that there are bad parents out there. Ones that raise rude, awful children. But this disorder has NOTHING to do with a parenting ability.

And as a final thought: most of the children I have met who have autism are wonderfully sweet. They simply have difficulty dealing with the world around them.

cavy

Do your freaking research.... these children do grow up and have jobs. Their lives may be different, but they can contribute to society in meaningful ways. Look up Dr. Temple Grandin. She is an author, and has her Ph.D. Oh, and she has autism.

#82 I understand what you are saying. I am not speaking against REAL cases. That would be silly - just as it is silly to support false labels put on by greedy Doctors or parents with straight up brats. Of course it is devastating to everyone involved, but why aren't more people questioning the numbers diagnosed? This is out of hand.

this is for you too #83 - I didn't say ALL kids won't have jobs - that's why I mention "UMBRELLA" in a lot of my comments, I get that! But a lot of money is put into funding FALSE cases. Just because Dr Grandin is successful does not mean everyone is - you are lumping everything together. Hurray for TRUE cases that MAKE IT! You just aren't paying attention Chel.c.lynn to what I was saying.

#53 & #59
I'm a Mom as well, my twin son is autistic, they're the center of my universe as well, so I get mad when they call we as parents dont pay attention to them, but as well I know that in our society is easy for many parents to label a kid when they're just brats, I can recognize an autistic child in some minutes, and in my kid class are so many brats, and my is a real one, so I'm fighting with this parents who just need time with them... they call mine ooh is so quiet, obviously mine is a real one you asshole!.... but anyway I think Leary just cant talk about this kids so easily, I hope he wont be any day on our shoes, cause is a very difficult road...see u!

#53 & #59
I'm a Mom as well, my twin son is autistic, they're the center of my universe as well, so I get mad when they call we as parents dont pay attention to them, but as well I know that in our society is easy for many parents to label a kid when they're just brats, I can recognize an autistic child in some minutes, and in my kid class are so many brats, and my is a real one, so I'm fighting with this parents who just need time with them... they call mine ooh is so quiet, obviously mine is a real one you asshole!.... but anyway I think Leary just cant talk about this kids so easily, I hope he wont be any day on our shoes, cause is a very difficult road...see u!

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There is something is this obviously some people are really autistic, but too many people wants excuses and instead get shrinks/docs to dish out diagnoses like austism, aspergers and ADHD.

I think #87 is autistic.

LOL #89 I was just going to say that #87 is the full Spectrum! :0)

No, #87 is a dumb-ass LOL

Jenny McCarthy is going to kick his ass.

Jenny McCarthy is a lunatic.

Let it be known that Denis Leary and the readers of The Superficial know FAR more about autism than people with doctorates in clinical psychology who have devoted their lives to observing and studying thousands of autistic children and trying to help them improve. What a bunch of CRACKERJACK WHACK JOBS those people are, they clearly have no idea what they're talking about!

My brother and I were raised the exact same way. My parents loved us and disciplined us the exact same way. Why am I normal when he has AS? Tell me that, please.

Seriously, if you think that autism isn't real, if you think that Aspergers is just a product of lazy parenting, if you met an autistic kid with crappy parents once and you think that qualifies you to make wide sweeping generalizations about everyone in the world with autism, I honestly and seriously want you to pull out a gun and kill yourself right this second. This world has far too many people like you in it.

#94, chill out. If you had ACTUALLY read the comments on here of us that agree with Leary (and his statement) you would see that we also believe that Autism is REAL....just not all the claims. Aren't you a little pissed off with all the misdiagnosed? Why is it all or nothing with you people that freak out before getting all the info? It seems like you just don't get it.

Oh, and I never wished death on anyone like you just did...real classy. Funny how you wish to garner sympathy and violence at the same time. Loser!

Retards are gay.

Fuck everyone on this post. This is America, we can make fun of anyone and everyone. It is a release called HUMOR. Just a normal defense mechanism.

I have seen groups of "parents of autistic children." They make fun of their kids all the time.

It is just a release we all need bc the world is sad and fucked up and its sometimes the only way to bring joy.

P.S. How do you make a scatter plot? Give the pen to Micheal J. Fox.

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Fuck everyone on this post. This is America, we can make fun of anyone and everyone. It is a release called HUMOR. Just a normal defense mechanism.

I have seen groups of "parents of autistic children." They make fun of their kids all the time.

It is just a release we all need bc the world is sad and fucked up and its sometimes the only way to bring joy.

P.S. How do you make a scatter plot? Give the pen to Micheal J. Fox.

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@80- You don't get it. Read some of the posts on here. No one is saying that autism doesn't exist. They are merely stating that it is overdiagnosed.

Woah, hang on a second, I just realized I'm a fucking tool. Excuse me while I off myself.

Hey, me too!

#94 agreed

I dont know who that FUKING IDIOT think he is !
I have an autistic son and my husband and I do everything for him .
wish I never see you on the street .
Bastard!!!!

Got to agree with him. I work in a school system where the parents do exactly what he said. The don't pay attention to the brat, and when he fails a grade, the want our shrink to diagnose him with some learning disorder to explain away their total disregard for his education. Last month, when she refused to give a kid an easy out , the parents sued the school, took him to their own specialist, and now are claiming the kid has ADD. He is an unsupervised, violent bully. We have him on video assaulting girls 2 grades lower than him. He does NOT have a disorder. Just lousy parents. That is the case most of the time. Then there are the ones who want their kid diagnosed with a disorder so they can concentrate on sports instead of books and not get held back.

As with most people on this site, you completely miss the point #103/Samantha. If you take offense YOU ARE one of those parents he's talking about. If your child DOES HAVE Autism and you have a TRUE case and are doing everything you can for your child - you have NOTHING to worry about or be offended over!

Are you all that stupid that you can't see he is talking about the misdiagnosed and the over diagnosed? If you are a real case, don't worry about it - he's not talking about you.

I swear, this world is getting stupider and stupider by the minute!

Oh, and another thing I've noticed is the parents that are freaking out over nothing because he's NOT talking about true cases, like to threaten violence (see #103 and others who have no connection between thought and reason). Yeah, you are a great role model for your children...not!

okay, I feel for you people taking offense to this as much as I possibly can but...this is exactly the point leary is trying to make...PEOPLE TAKE THEMSELVES WAY TOO F*CKING SERIOUSLY. so what if you have this, so what if your kid has that? GET THE F*CK OVER IT. everybody has problems, someone is always going to have it better, someone is always going to have it worse. maybe something f*cked up you did in the past is coming back to bite you in the a** and that's why your kid is autistic. or maybe bad things just happen to good people. just accept it, get over it, and make the best of what you've got.

and there is totally truth in Leary's notion that people are quick to blame their problems or their children's problems on some illness or disease.

I've had ocd my entire life but was never treated for it until I was 19 (I'm now 22) but *somehow* I got through problems I've faced due to it without making bullshit excuses for myself.

and @ 82 – it really all depends on the parents. some parents are no where near decent human beings. some parents would probably love for a reason to not have to deal with their children. some parents are sociopaths.

I'll say it again, people, stop taking yourselves so seriously and get the f*ck over yourselves.

LOL I'm not sure where to begin... I'll give as much information as I can think at this moment.

First off, you can at least look at the dictionary. I just want you to see what it says so you can relate it to my story. If you don't want to learn anything than don't read it. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/autism

I'm the father of a 7 year old beautiful autistic girl. My daughter is everything to me and I spend as much time as possible, when not at work, with her. I even take days off work so I can take her new places to see new things. Gym to swim 3 days a week, (theraputic for others with autistic children) science center once a week and the whole bit. I've been with her mom for almost 10 years now, so we don't have a bad situation at home. So for me the parenting question is, well, really out of the question.

I remember my daughter at 2 years old picking up word and saying them. Like the basics mom, dad, water, bath... and on and on. Just before she was 3 years old she stopped talking for about a week.

She was just like any normal kid at the time, smiling, laughing, playing, rolling around running and all things you would see kids doing. Keep in mind, we could go to the store, mall, parks, fairs, pretty much where ever and she loved it. After she stopped talking she was kind of whiney like how maybe a colicy baby would sound uncomfortable.

During the first part of this we took her to the doctor because she just mostly whined and fussed. We took her to the doctor within the first week and about a month after and the doctor said she was going to be fine. Even after 6 months it was just "delayed speech". She was talking before so how was it delayed? Didn't diagnose autism in the first months of this happening. After a bit we knew she was autistic but never looked for confirmation from a doctor. I think mostly we were hoping for the best that she would start talking. She was "officially" (use the term lightly, didn't need someone to tell me what I lived with everyday) diagnosed at 4 years of age. But we knew before she was 3.

After it was "official" we started therapy for her. Speech and occupational 3 days a week. It was alot for her to take but eventually caught on to the routine. We didn't do IBI which is intense behavioral intervention. She's never really been a threat to herself or others, doesn't lash out or anything. Infact she's very polite and always wants to help people.

We had a hard time because of the communication breakdown with her so we did the best we could using hand signals when she was alittle older. Let me tell you something, those first 3 to 6 months of this happening she mostly whined and looked for things that might interest her. Mostly toys with sound or even looked for books. She would sit next to me or her mom or anyone for a short period even if you were talking to her then find the need to do something else.

It was nothing like ADD or ADHD because she was very driven to what she wanted to do, you knew she had a plan of what she wanted to do. She would find things like shapes and know how to put them in the box, she just couldn't tell you it was a square because the word meant nothing. I think she might of seemed this way because it was the only way she could find something to communicate with and understand. Words meant nothing to her at that point anymore. If I was going to catagorize Autism I'd say it's probably closer to OCD except with an extra communication twist.

She also changed as far as personality, senses, mentally of course because she couldn't talk anymore. She didn't speak again until she was 4. She never played as a kid would anymore, rarely smiled, didn't play in the bathtub and you never really heard her laugh. It was sad because you saw that she wasn't a child anymore. There was no more understanding of what the word play would mean. She's 7 now and is just starting to learn what it means to do those things again.

Now I'll tell you abit about the senses being sensitive. She couldn't handle loud sounds or weird frequencies of things. Even things like a lighbulb being on next to her bed. If you get close you can hear the sound of it, or the TV, the sound could be off but just the sound of it hurt her ears. No more crowded parks, the fair or anywhere there is alot of noise. She can start from silence and gradually get louder but can't take alot of noise at once, like a band. All those things wear on her and build up through the day until it leads to a breakdown. If she gets over stimulated by sound or activity she can have a bad day. It's why swimming is recommended. They can get under the water where there is virtually no sound and it's comforting to them.

Textures of foods are different for her. She can eat anything and will try everything once, but she is selective in her foods, if it doesn't feel right then she won't eat it. I've seen her go through french fries and pull out the ones that she believes to be defective. I'm not sure what she basis this on but she looks them and decides which ones are good for consumption and which ones will stay in the box. That's just one of probably 10 food quirks.

Clothes make her uncomfortable because it feels different. It's kind of like the food thing. If it isn't right, she doesn't want it. For people with kids who are autistic they know their kids don't like clothes and they would prefer to be naked if they could. She will wear clothes until she gets home from school and then will strip down immediately. She has a robe that she wears but if she didn't have to wear the robe she wouldn't.

She never learned to say any words again until she was 4, even though she wanted to try. That was the sad part, you could see she was getting frustrated and probably even felt defeated because she didn't understand the words coming out of our mouths and could never reply.

My daughter basically learns things by repeating them or copying someone in what they are doing. That's the only way she learns. There is still very little comprehension of words and the talking she does do, it's from repetitive situations. Things like, "Hello my name is Ani, what's yours?" and "I would like a drink please".

Her mental ability is excellent, infact she is far from the mini-mind you all might think. She can remember days, times, lists anything you throw at her. I could tell her a list of 10 things we are going to do a week from now and in a specific order and she would come to me that morning and tell me what we are doing. Now here's the kicker... if we do something in the wrong order of what she remembered, then the day is what she calls "ruined". Another thing is she has to complete or finish everything she starts. So if you give her a drawing and then cut her off in the middle, she could have a meltdown because it hasn't been completed. So order and completion are very important.

Here's something you might laugh at, she can read at a 4th grade level, but I don't think she knows half of what she's reading. So she knows how to go through the motions, it's just finding the meaning. That's why many autistic people are good with math, because it is what it is. It's basic logic, I don't know if anyone has ever taken a logic class but you find truth in statements. The example I heard was an autistic person would never understand phrases like, "Well I'll be a monkey's uncle". How in reality could you possibly be a monkey's uncle. It's not a true statement so it will confuse her. No humor involved of course because I'm not sure if she'll ever be able to partake in humor.

Here is a habit that we had to break her from and even now and then she'll still do it. You and I usually watch a movie in 2 hours right? It takes her about 6 hours to watch a movie. She will start the movie, watch the previews, maybe 1 or 2 and then rewind it and start from the beginning. Watch the previews, watch maybe the first 3 minutes of the movie then rewind it and watch it again. Next about an extra 10 minutes into the movie then stop and rewind to the beginning and watch the previews again and more of the movie. She is literally buring the movie into her mind and will never watch it again after she's finished the whole thing. You could bring it back to her 3 months down the road and she won't watch it... every movie is that way. She will watch some of the disney movies a second or third time, but mostly none.

I guess what I'm trying to say is yes, it's real. If you saw my daughter on the street with me you'd just think she was a shy little girl with nothing to say. Even if you spent an hour or 2 with her you'd think she was just a normal little kid. It's what you'd see after a week with her or even a full 2 days that you know it's real... yes, even the great Denis Leary would see it. Speaking of Leary, I think I'll leave the lashing to Jenny since she's on the famous level and I'm down here posting on a comment forum.

What causes it? Hell if I know, I'm a believer that it's the mercury in the Rubella inoculation serum. Others believe it's parenting, some say it's a genetic defect, hell it could be aliens for all I know. If you find out let me know.

Keep your head up out there parents, stay positive and look to the future.

I didn't think so many people would be agreeing with Dennis Lear on this.
I gotta agree too.
Autism is a legitimate disorder, but too often, like ADD, it's just used to justify the child's behavior which stems from other areas (such as lack of discipline, being spoiled, or just being a little different in a completely normal way.)

I'm a Doctor and it gets so frustrating having patients come in demanding their child has something wrong with them, when their fine. Either it's autism, or ADD, or dyslexia (the dyslexia is usually just because their not doind their homework and learning to write or read). Once again I'm not talking about genuine cases.
Most of the time, the parents want someone else to treat the child or deal with them, or want drugs, because their too busy to help their child themselves.

I get the same mindset when overweight people come in. I try to give them diet and exercise advice, but NOOOO, that won't help because everyone one of them is 'genetically like this'.

Sometimes I get so frustrated at people's attitude I just want to scream my lungs out.

It's the same people who during a consultation, start text messaging their friend, while I'm talking to them about important stuff. Like I have time to wait, and make the other patients wait. The world makes me so angry sometimes.
At least with all these morons running around who will never get ahead in life with the attitude, my children have less competition at getting ahead in this world.

I didn't think so many people would be agreeing with Dennis Lear on this.
I gotta agree too.
Autism is a legitimate disorder, but too often, like ADD, it's just used to justify the child's behavior which stems from other areas (such as lack of discipline, being spoiled, or just being a little different in a completely normal way.)

I'm a Doctor and it gets so frustrating having patients come in demanding their child has something wrong with them, when their fine. Either it's autism, or ADD, or dyslexia (the dyslexia is usually just because their not doind their homework and learning to write or read). Once again I'm not talking about genuine cases.
Most of the time, the parents want someone else to treat the child or deal with them, or want drugs, because their too busy to help their child themselves.

I get the same mindset when overweight people come in. I try to give them diet and exercise advice, but NOOOO, that won't help because everyone one of them is 'genetically like this'.

Sometimes I get so frustrated at people's attitude I just want to scream my lungs out.

It's the same people who during a consultation, start text messaging their friend, while I'm talking to them about important stuff. Like I have time to wait, and make the other patients wait. The world makes me so angry sometimes.

At least with all these morons running around who will never get ahead in life with the attitude, my children have less competition at getting ahead in this world.

Autism, the diagnosis du jour!

I hear ya Ben. Doctors catch alot of crap that really they shouldn't have to deal with on a daily basis. I'm not one of those people you speak of, infact I refuse to put anything into my daughters system unless for illness and autism isn't an illness, she isn't sick or dying from it. I've had parents and teachers tell me my daughter could use medication but I'm not willing to do that too her. It just sounds like a crutch to me and that's lame for her if she decides in the future not to take them.

I have seen many cases of abuse for all kinds of prescription drugs and I think that's a huge problem as well as parents who just want to drug their kids. Stories like kids 1 and 2 years old being prescribed level 2 or 3 narcotics and that's crazy. I've heard of 2 cases of doctors cashing in on prescribing hydros and getting 50% of the pills so they could sell them. There is definately bad things that happen so I agree with you there.

Just to let you know, I try not to view it as an bad thing, she's the way she is and we learn the best we can. I don't really blame anyone as much as wanting to find out why. I try to be a man of the present and future because that's all there is. It's not easy for me to learn her language, but one day I'll have it down. lol

Autism is characterised by severe and pervasive impairments in several important areas of
development: reciprocal social interaction and communication as well as behaviour, and
imagination. In order to be diagnosed with autism, the behavioural symptoms in all of the
above-named areas must be present by age 3. Even if the parents often notice that something is
wrong during infancy, it is very difficult to diagnose autism before the age of eighteen months.
This is because the behavioural symptoms used to establish the diagnosis have not clearly
emerged developmentally until that age.
The majority of children with autism also have a learning disability (mental retardation),
although a few have average intelligence. Many also have epilepsy, and visual and hearing
impairment are over-represented in this group. Persons with Asperger’s syndrome, which is a
condition resembling autism, have average or above average intelligence.
You can NOT get autism from bad parenting.
Please, do some research before you open your ignorant minds.
I live in Sweden, and we don´t have that weird healthcare system as the U.S and we don´t have to pay any money to get treatment or bribe shrinks to get a diagnosis. My son have high functinal autism and he got the diagnosis from 2 yeras of tests and evaluations from different experts. I have no doubt in my mind that my son have autism. Why would parents want to have a diagnosis on a healthy child????

Please read #113. "You can NOT get autism from bad parenting"; you CAN get it from mercury poising. Drug companies put mercury into vaccines so they have a longer shelf life. That makes more money for the pharmaceutical companies. The pharmaceutical companies knew they were poisoning children but chose to profit at their expense. Pharmaceutical companies have a lot of money and political influence, and used both to keep the truth hidden for many years. Autism is 1 of the results, there are many. It not only affects the children, family, and loved ones; it affects us all; it is an epidemic. That is big business at its worst. Learn more. Expose the greed that caused it. Make good out of this.

He is correct,

Autism is mostly a hoax!

States with the highest autism rates are also those states with the most lawyers, and class- action-friendly laws.

I think the label helps people to make sense of why they are 'different'. It really helps adults to understand why they may be awkward socially and very nerdy, but maybe for children who are developing there are different variables which may confound a diagnosis.

I can pretty well understand that, folks.
BORN WITH SUCH A FACE!!
(gives me the creeps.)

@102- Wow. Whoever you are you must be a total loser if you feel the need to troll me because I feel differently than you do about an issue. I thought people learned to accept other's viewpoints in grade school. But judging by your childish sense of humour I take it that you're a drop out. Go do something with your life.

I agree with Dennis Leary...we are a country of dumbasses.

...And I'm a-gonna ride that wave right into Whitey's White House!!

Thanks for voting for me, fools...

Sorry. My post is directed at 101.

#108 so agree with you...
I hope Leary never has an autistic child, cause he'll be a terrible dad with that point of view.

Denis Leary = hero

Frtirz

Preach it, Mr. Leary

There are few things I hate more than listening to a parent blather on about how wonderful their children are. OR, alternately, how tough their poor little offspring have got it because of... whatever. My children will know from a young age that they are NOT special, that they've got nothing coming to them - not sympathy, not pity, not a comfortable lifestyle, not celebrity, not endless opportunity, nor a single, solitary excuse for anything. I will love my children, of course, and they will be special TO ME, but that will be the end of it. Never will I inflict any parental conceit on others. If only I could expect the same from everybody else...

Damn, almost half the people here have kids with Autism, and all these parents say they are the best in the world. Why can't people just say I am a neglectful parent but trying to lie about it to make myself feel better even though no one beleives me because according to this board 50% of the people here with children have autistic kids while 50% don't 1 in 2 diagnosed.

#114 what nonsense. which source and research sites that mercury poisoning can cause autism. based on the extensive research on autism, there is no proven cause to autism. i am a special educator and i am in the midst of a study on autism. and even if mercury poisoning could lead to autism, just how many of autistic kids have been poisoned by mercury?

I have a dyslexic brother and an ADHD sister. my mother spent hours and hours teaching them the same simple elementary concepts over and over again. and got all exasperated in the process...till she found out about the prevalence of such learning disabilities and eventually when she got my siblings tested, it came more as a relief than anything else. because she finally got an answer to all the questions she had concerning their slow learning.

NO ONE who does not have a kid who is special is in ANY position to judge a parent. yes, there may be lazy parents but as a special educator i assure u that the sheer MAJORITY of parents do their very best for these children (at least from where i come from). and the inital reception of a diagnosis can be very difficult to accept. and NO ONE too can blame parents of autistic children to be sensitive to such a remark because of how society already places a terribly negative stigma towards their children.

to the parents who have autistic children who bothered to comment in defence, THANK YOU we need more parents like you in the world :)

and if you think autism is a hoax, try to volunteer at some charity organisations for autistic children and SEE for yourself before you simply place an assumption on it.

#80 You are an idiot.
Obesity is NOT an illness and is NOT a mental disability you lazy cow.

The last statistics are 1 in every 150 kids are born with autism. So you might want to learn alittle about them. Pretty soon there will be millions of them and you won't know how to interact with them.

Some people say it's genetic. If so, why do neither my wife or I have anyone in our families that has autism or any other mental problems. If it was genetic it would of been passed down from generation to generation, why was there never a diagnosis in the past 500 years for this?

"Autism tends to occur more frequently than expected among individuals who have certain medical conditions, including Fragile X syndrome, tuberous sclerosis, congenital rubella syndrome, and untreated phenylketonuria (PKU). Some harmful substances ingested during pregnancy also have been associated with an increased risk of autism."

The funny thing about this quote is that the inoculation for rubella is the one that carries a mercury based serum.

"Research indicates that other factors besides the genetic component are contributing to the rise in increasing occurrences of ASD, such as environmental toxins (e.g., heavy metals such as mercury), which are more prevalent in our current environment than in the past. Those with ASD (or those who are at risk) may be especially vulnerable, as their ability to metabolize and detoxify these exposures can be compromised."

So basically what this is saying is that the environment of where you are born could come into play and make it harder for your body to process things like the mercury in the rubella shot and if your body can't process it... you are left with mercury poisoning of the brain. My daughter was born in a city with a papermill. So it's possible that effected her because some of the chemicals in the air and saturation in the ground. But how does that effect an unborn child or a 2 year old but not someone who's lived there for 30 years?

For me I believe it to be a new problem that hasn't been seen before. It's not like one day we woke up and said... "Hey, look it's AIDS/HIV." No, it was about 10 years of trying to figure out what it was, where it came from, how to treat it and so on. Autism is the AIDS of the 21st century. Nobody knows where or how... sure it's easy for people to point fingers because that's what we are best at in America. Until they actually know what Autism is, than we pretty much shouldn't blame the parents.

I've watched kids on a playground push my daughter down or out of the way. Don't you think those are the kids who should have a parent around? Maybe someone to teach them manners or how to be polite? I look at their parents and they are talking on cell phones/texting and reading magazines, while I'm the one on the playground with an autistic kid playing. Hell, I even play with their kids or help them on the playground because their parents are self absorbed and not even watching their kid.

Shouldn't those be the parents that receive the proverbial middle finger to instead of the ones out there playing with their kids? I've yet to see another person with an autistic child that isn't devoted to that childs life and saftey in public. Don't get me wrong I'm sure they are out there, but I just haven't seen it in my community.

As for complaining or telling you how wonderful my kid is (#125). I merely wanted to state what I had seen happen to my child. If you felt like I was complaining then maybe you should read it again.

I fought tooth and nail to NOT label my son as autistic. We've had suspicions since he was 2 that there was a problem. It's NOT that we're lazy parents or that we don't spend enough time with him. He is 5 now and only recently did we finally break down and get a diagnosis because there are DEFINITE sensory issues. Someone above said that their senses are different than "typical" people and that couldn't be more true. The way they hear, see, smell.....EVERYTHING is different. And they wouldn't call it a disease or disability. It is just DIFFERENT, but people need to take into account the differences and teach them in the way that they can learn. It is very frustrating to try to learn something from someone who speaks french if you only speak spanish. Get the picture?

I've always been a fan of Denis Leary and agree that things like ADHD are over diagnosed BUT some kids genuinely do have these issues and it shouldn't be taken forgranted that their parents just suck. Some of us do love our kids and spend time with our kids and do everything that we can do to help them.

Uhhh... you do realize he's right, yes? Autism is the new ADD. The "popular" problem for parents to pin on their kids.

Autism...Aspergers...are REAL. The symptoms vary in severity - greatly.

I'm not a fan anymore.

What I want to know is why are psychologists always seen as evil. Dr. Phil is a hack and most self-help books have nothing to do with the practice. This is why I'm glad I'm not studying to be a therapist. Being an industrial psychologist will be so much easier.

Also as far as how there is an increase in autism diagnoses that's simply due to the fact more information is gathered. I mean a lot of revision was done to autism in the DSM-IV including diagnostics criteria.

As far as what Leary said, don't care. He can say what he wants when wants. It doesn't effect me.

sometimes people are just slow and stupid. why do we feel the need to have to label any diversity from the norm and throw money, pills, and treatment at it? it is what it is.

Ignorant (I.e., uninformed) people say ignorant things.....he will probably have an autistic grandchild. Karma

My child has ASD and believe me, I wish he was really just lazy and stupid. He's actually quite brilliant. He learned alphabets, numbers, shapes and colours on his own by age 2. He can do puzzles closing his eyes and will probably know how to read by age 3. Dennis doesn't know a thing about autism. It's has nothing to do with parenting and if he did his research he'd know it's a neurological disorder. He's the idiot here!! Sorry Dennis but you'll always be the 2nd rate and low class actor in Hollywood. You only know cheap humour. Some people in this forum are also very ignorant, so please do your research before you open your mouth.

My child has ASD and believe me, I wish he was really just lazy and stupid. He's actually quite brilliant. He learned alphabets, numbers, shapes and colours on his own by age 2. He can do puzzles closing his eyes and will probably know how to read by age 3. Dennis doesn't know a thing about autism. It's has nothing to do with parenting and if he did his research he'd know it's a neurological disorder. He's the idiot here!! Sorry Dennis but you'll always be the 2nd rate and low class actor in Hollywood. You only know cheap humour. Some people in this forum are also very ignorant, so please do your research before you open your mouth.

My child has ASD and believe me, I wish he was really just lazy and stupid. He's actually quite brilliant. He learned alphabets, numbers, shapes and colours on his own by age 2. He can do puzzles closing his eyes and will probably know how to read by age 3. Denis doesn't know a thing about autism. It's has nothing to do with parenting and if he did his research he'd know it's a neurological disorder. He's the idiot here!! Sorry Denis but you'll always be the 2nd rate and low class actor in Hollywood. You only know cheap humour. Some people in this forum are also very ignorant, so please do your research before you open your mouth.

Dear Dennis Leary,

Are you for real? Have you in the past decade picked up a book? Autism Is not trendy cool new thing! I assure you if my son's conditions were CAUSED by my parenting skills I would attend every parenting class there was.... If I knew at the end my kids wouldn't be autistic. In the meantime I have to trifle with therapy, countless Dr's bills and ASSHOLE"s like you, who feel content to smugly pass judgment when it is clear you don't have the brain the size of a pea. Tell you what, when you get Lung Cancer I'll head up to the hospital and tell you to stop being such whiner and faker!!!! In the mean time please keep your opinion's about shit you don't know about to yourself! I would say educate your self but people who make comments like you did rarely can.

Yours Truly, The Mother of Two Autistic Children

Dear Dennis Leary,

Are you for real? Have you in the past decade picked up a book? Autism Is not trendy cool new thing! I assure you if my son's conditions were CAUSED by my parenting skills I would attend every parenting class there was.... If I knew at the end my kids wouldn't be autistic. In the meantime I have to trifle with therapy, countless Dr's bills and ASSHOLE"s like you, who feel content to smugly pass judgment when it is clear you don't have the brain the size of a pea. Tell you what, when you get Lung Cancer I'll head up to the hospital and tell you to stop being such whiner and faker!!!! In the mean time please keep your opinion's about shit you don't know about to yourself! I would say educate your self but people who make comments like you did rarely can.

Yours Truly, The Mother of Two Autistic Children

Again....sigh....IF YOUR CHILD HAS A REAL DOCUMENTED CASE OF AUTISM, DIAGNOSED BY A COMPETENT DOCTOR, HE'S NOT TALKING ABOUT YOU - YOU FUCKING DUMBASSES! He's commenting on the fact that this epidemic is out of control and many children are falsely diagnosed. Get off your high horses and "LISTEN/READ"!

And by the way, have you noticed that the parents who don't have a clue WTF Leary or any of us are actually saying, post duplicate comments? Maybe it's the kids who are fine and the parents need to be labeled!?!?

I swear, we as human beings are de-evolving as a species....pick up the clue phone people!

Here's the quote again...

"There is a huge boom in autism right now because inattentive mothers and competitive dads want an explanation for why their dumb-ass kids can't compete academically, so they throw money into the happy laps of shrinks . . . to get back diagnoses that help explain away the deficiencies of their junior morons. I don't give a [bleep] what these crackerjack whack jobs tell you - yer kid is NOT autistic. He's just stupid. Or lazy. Or both." - D. Leary

Here's what it took to get my daughter diagnosed. We went in to the family doctor, he checked her ears, mouth, heart, blood pressure and all the goodies a good doctor does. We said, "We believe our daughter is autistic." He said, "Great let's get her started on therapy." It was that simple, he wasn't a specialist, just a family doctor.

I didn't know that a psychologist could give diagnosis on patients being that they aren't medical doctors. It would make sense if they were neurologists but not psychologists. There are not really any tests that are going to make it so your child is autistic, just basic characteristics. If you are worried, don't take your kid to a psychologist. lol

So if you are spending all this money Leary says you are, just take your child to a family doctor and say... I think my child might be autistic and they'll decide for you.

The reason this strikes a chord with all parents with autistic kids is because it's setting back our cause to get things heading in the right direction. With him saying this now it puts more disbelief in people that Autism doesn't even exists, even though that's not what he meant to say.

It is also saying that autistic children are stupid and lazy. Yes, he's talking about the kids who aren't, but you have to have a basis for that to be attached to and it's saying that people with stupid lazy kids might as well have an autistic kid. Which autistic kids are neither, stupid or lazy.

If the kid is talking, smiling, laughing, playing with other kids, and comprehending people talking to them, they are not autistic. I can't imagine it'd be difficult for someone to see the difference or lable a kid as autistic when clearly they aren't.

If they are over diagnosing autism, then they shouldn't be doctors. I can spend 10 to 15 minutes at a school playground and tell you within that time how many autistic kids I can see. They aren't hard to spot. So if a parent is concerned because their kid is a delayed learner and they take the kid to the doctor to get checked and the doctor says it's autism. How is that the fault of the parent again? Isn't that the fault of the doctor? You can tell a doctor what you think it is, but ultimately it's the doctor's decision and diagnosis which sticks, not the parents. If the doctor goes with it just to push you out of the office then maybe you've made a bad choice of doctor's.

Lydia...yeah, you're right, people...er...excuse me, Insurance Companies DO shell out a lot of money because of a diagnosis of autism. And you seriously question anybody who doubts the legitimacy of this disorder? It's a self-serving, poorly diagnosed disorder which (like I said before), had actual legitimacy it would be considered an epidemic as major as AIDS or cancer. I'd go the do-it-myself route of Jenny McCarthy if I had a son "diagnosed" with autism because I don't believe for a second that it's anything worse than a socially developmental phase brought on by a lack of attention. These parents who rush off to get a diagnosis for their child are not at all different than the overbearing parent who puts their child on a diet when they've got "too much baby fat".

I love it when actors pretend to know things. It's so cute. :) Stick to the script, Mr. Leary.

What is stupid and lazy - not doing research and spewing inaccuracies to draw attention to your lameass cable tv show.

good god in heaven, there is no fuckin' way that anyone wants to see his droopy spotty old man face that close up. ugh.

WE'RE ALL AUTISTIC.

DENNIS LEARY'S AUTISTIC.

AND YOU GUYS WHO DON'T KNOW SQUAT ABOUT WHAT IT'S LIKE TO HAVE CHILDREN WITH REAL AUTISM, YOU'RE ALL RETARDED. GO FUCK YOURSELF WITH A SLEDGHAMMER AND LIKE IT. FUCK DENNIS LEARY TOO, WHEN YOU'RE DONE.

MORONS, Y'ALL.

#147 Yes, I do believe you're Autistic. No need to shout.

Wow... I'm a little late to the game on this one, but to any of you people who've gotten your titties all twisted by what he said - get the hell over yourselves already!

If you have a child who's truly, fundamentally disabled... You need to take a step back and realize that in no way are all "diagnosed" cases worth their weight in gold. You need to be able to remove yourself from your own situation, ie - take your head out of your ass... and realize that there are in fact some shitty parents out there with truly stupid little brats.

Did he make a generalize statement? Of course he did... It's fucking comedy. He can't go into all the little technical exceptions in order not to piss a few of you off for Christ's sake.

But the fact remains... He has a valid point. We live in this society where everything has to have labels... especially if it's something we don't particularly like. "Oh no... little Bobby isn't as bright as we tell all the neighbors he is - We better take him to the doctors to find out what's wrong with him in order to make us feel better about ourselves around others!" Well guess what... there's nothing "wrong" with little Bobby - he's just fucking stupid... get over it.

Or.. "Oh no... little Sally is out of control... Nothing we do can get her in line... She must be "special." No... Little Sally is just a bratty little fucker and you're ill-equipped to handle her. There's nothing wrong with little Sally... there's something wrong with you. Just like some kids are simply stupid or total brats... . Some parents are bad parents who should have thought twice before having children.

Yes... Some kids have real problems - but these days the fact remains that there are an overwhelming number of parents who have problems.. Problems with reality. It's much easier to get a label put on something in the name of keeping up some half-cocked image around others than simply dealing with and admitting to the reality of this situation, like - my kid's just plain stupid or my kid's just a royal prick.

But we can't do that can we? Of course not... because then some blame might come back on the parents and we can't have that. No... We must have an excuse... We must have a label!

I refuse to believe that the number of children with real disorders has jumped this significantly over the past couple of decades... It's damn near impossible. But what has jumped dramatically is the number of self-conscious, insecure parents who'd rather save face by hiding behind some bogus diagnosis than face reality. It's just like this "epidemic" of obese, ie - fat ass kids... When push comes to shove, 85% of the time it simply comes back to shitty parenting in one form or another.

What's even worse are these doctors who just give in to these parents and give these kids the labels they're looking for. I'd like to think it's because they simply don't have any balls to stand up to these pathetic, obnoxious parents... But I'm afraid the real reason is they just lack ethics... Of course they'll give you your label... If they do, then that's more money they'll be able to make by "treating" the problem.

So to the 15% of you parents with children who have real, obvious, bonafide problems... I can certainly empathize with you. But you can't let the reality of your own situation cloud your judgement towards the other 85% of the cases out there. We all know there are some truly shitty parents out there in one way or another who should've probably never had kids... The last thing we should do is needlessly try to make them feel better for their own shortcomings.

.... It seems Mr.Leary is confusing autism (a very real disorder) with the medical industrial complex (misdiagnosis for profit).
That's disappointing, I thought he was smarter than that.

oh, he never said autistic=stupid.

He said that bunch of idiots prefer to say their children are ill instead of lazy/stupid.
Because if your son is a moron you FAIL, if he has a desease you can still think you are a good parent.

Sad, he will be forced to apologize just cause people are too stupid and lazy to make the effort to understand a joke, they just hear "autistic" and start yelling.

Be hysterical is not a way to make somebody feel ok and well integrated

not sure who said it earlier, but …
the government recently admitted to vaccinations being harmful to children.

I think it happened in California, could be wrong.
look it up.

some folks are being a little insensitive though. leary is out to make a buck with his book -- and that he will. doesn't justify what he's saying or make it right. He likes to talk around in circles about freedom of speech etc. but freedom in some peoples' hands is a dangerous thing - it ends up being a weapon by which to hurt others.

something to think about.