Oct 7 2009Michael Vick's reality show is actually happening

First! Vick eats hot dogs.

BOO this topic is so boring I couldn't read past the second sentence. Michael Vick sucks and so does BET.

I will agree with Amanda-La. No matter what - we can't change the fact that he brutally hurt man's best friend without any regard. I just can't look at him.

Vick is a piece of garbage for what he did to those poor dogs ....

Yes, I am an animal lover and not a racist ( my hubby is black )

I'm confused about the peer pressure and betting thousands of his NFL money on dog fights. Has he been playing in the NFL since he was in junior high or is he just still in high school for the 15th year??? He is a grown man, a large man at that and no one should be able to "peer pressure" him into anything.

Who is going to watch this stupid show beside some crack whores and welfare mothers who are just passing time before Oprah comes on...

I just want to know one thing... just one thing:

While Vick was in prison, you just know some big bull queer wanted a taste of that sweet chocolate NFL ass while he was in the joint.

So do you think Vick took it up the ass while he was in the "penal" system?

friggin bottom feeder should have been shot already

This isnt surprising when a cockbite like TO gets his own show on VH1. I swear that network would give a show to a retarded transexual midget that drools all over and shits it's pants.

I developed a little saying about douchebags. It goes like this:

"Once a douchebag, always a douchebag."

#7 you're the only one that wonders if Vick likes it up the ass. So i have only one question for YOU, why?

I understand they are really trying to capture the essence of the wonder that is Michael Vick. His camera crew was so moved to be a part of this inspirational story, that they filmed all 24 Episodes hanging upside down from metal coat racks with alligator clips wired to car batteries hooked to their nipples.
The Director of photography stated, he would often ask Vick to kick a cameraman of his choosing in the junk every half hour to keep morale up. The Editor, whom was beaten too severely to comment after a spotting session of the pilot, had his doctors mold the full body cast so that his dislocated thumbs were up. As if to say, Thanks Mike, see you at the Emmys.
Two of the production assistants were chosen by lottery, and pulled from the P.A. Pit to see a sneak preview of the finished pilot. One stated he was moved to tears, and not because of the flogging. The other simply went blind. "It was as if someone had superglued my eyelids open," he said, not looking at all in the direction of our reporter, " and I was staring directly into the Sun."
B.E.T's Lawyers were unavailable for comment on behalf of the blinded P.A. but assured us in an e-mail that the Producer in charge of glueing eyelids open and facing staffers towards the sun, had been let go earlier in the month due to the Economy, and corporate downsizing. Which leaves us only with the conclusion, that the show was so beautiful, it dried out his corneas and left him with third degree burns covering ninety eight percent of his face, and one hundred percent of his genitals.
I for one will DVR every episode. You only get one, or more chances to get things right. Something tells me, this might be that time. Maybe.

#11

Well, your mom and I were talking, and she told me that YOU like giving it up the ass as well as taking it up the ass, and I just thought we might hook you up with Vick and you two could buttfuck each other senseless.

Dumbass.

What's the world coming to...why does this guy need his own show? this is insane!

Wait, which Kardashian is he cornholing again? Because the only reason this should be considered news would be if he's cornholling one of the Kardashians...then using pliers to yank her teeth out and then drowning her.

Randal(l)

Michael Vick is a disgusting piece of shit, and so is anyone who defends him. The fact that he wants to teach kids about "overcoming adversity", like he's some kind of victim, just proves that he's a selfish, cruel asshole who still doesn't think he did anything wrong. Since when is going to jail for brutally torturing and killing living things called adversity? Last time i checked, it was called JUSTICE. I don't care what anyone says about how he did his time and he deserves a second chance. He only stopped because he got caught, and every statement he's made since then has just been him feeling sorry for himself.

AMERICA REWARDS MEDIOCRITY WITH TV SHOWS.

/18+ kids and more on the way? Check!
//7 different cultures hooking for no reason in a house? Check!
///football player having dogs fight till their death? Check!
////do something dumb or if you're blonde white woman you've got yourself a tv show

@ #16 well done sir

I don't know what to say about this anymore. If no one watches the show it will be cancelled but there are still so many people out there who say it is cultural. Sorry but fighting dogs to death is NOT cultural and he should be shamed not lauded with a big NFL contract and a TV show. What is wrong with our society?

Will Kanye make a cameo? Y'know, take over the show for a bit and then leave his wake?

Amazing what passes for "celebrity" these days....

I was a huge EAGLES fan and when I heard the news they signed
Vick I removed the Eagles Dog Collar that I had on my dog and threw
it in the trash. Anyone he really knows about the Vick case and what
he did and did for a long time to those poor dogs should not
support the Eagles or this Piece of TRASH!

He is only remorseful because he went to jail and lost Millions!
That 60 minutes interview he did was nothing but a fluff piece
and he was interviewed by James Brown who is a NFL commentator,
go figure!

The NFL and the Eagles should be ashamed of themselves!

I was a huge EAGLES fan and when I heard the news they signed
Vick I removed the Eagles Dog Collar that I had on my dog and threw
it in the trash. Anyone he really knows about the Vick case and what
he did and did for a long time to those poor dogs should not
support the Eagles or this Piece of TRASH!

He is only remorseful because he went to jail and lost Millions!
That 60 minutes interview he did was nothing but a fluff piece
and he was interviewed by James Brown who is a NFL commentator,
go figure!

The NFL and the Eagles should be ashamed of themselves!

Got three words for ya: B-E-T. The same demographic that insists OJ is innocent simply because he's black and she's white and had it coming. I wanna be black and have a million dollar sense of entitlement.

What's up with his left eye? There's a special place in hell for assholes like this. BET is scummy, was always scummy, and will always be scummy. Way to perpetuate the stereotype. Just don't call me a racist when I tell it like it is from now on. And while we're on the subject of BET--has anyone every wondered why there is no WET? Boy, the fire that would fuel would be interesting. Love the double standard. Hey here's an idea--while you're at it, why don't you promote Chris Brown's career, too. Or Kanye. If they want to promote their community, they should be adding shows about the Obamas and others who have actually made respectful names of themselves.

PETA, do something productive with your passion for once and assassinate this horrible shitbag who gets hard off of watching innocent creatures suffer. I hope he did take it up the ass really hard in prison, #11. In fact, I hope they put a dog collar on him and made him beg for it.

LYNCH that MUTHAFUCKA...... ALREADY!!!!

Black people sure do love other black people who do black people things...

#4 "Yes, I am an animal lover and not a racist ( my hubby is black )"

The fact that you felt it necessary to mention racism proves that you ARE a racist.

"blueprint for kids"? hopefully not kids with pets

I wouldn't care if this guy cured cancer.

"I've made mistakes..."

A mistake is me hungover this morning and realizing after it was too late that I pissed with the seat up.

Drowning and electrocuting dogs for fun and money wasn't a mistake.

You have got to be joking me? Have we run out of ideas to be reduced to the point of this? This man should be ashamed for what he did to those dogs. Only reason he's sorry is because he got caught and it seriously cost him!! You couldn't pay me to watch his show.

This man should be tortured just like the way he treated those dogs....but keep him close to death & move on to the next thing he felt was ok to treat an animal. He did this to dogs...willing...he has issues. uuhh.....can we say sociopath people?

Like to set a group of irish wolfhounds & doberman pinschers after him.

he is the absolute scum of the earth. he deserves no more media attention than he has already received. he is absolutely disgusting, and i don't feel that his punishment was strong enough - from the legal system or from the nfl. whoever manages/owns the eagles should have had the moral standards not to hire such a filthy criminal (not just any old criminal -this isn't some traffic violation or minor drug charge - this shows an absolute disrespect for life.). I agree with #22, we should all boycott the eagles for this - i never was an eagles fan, but i really hope sales of tshirts and all that garbage takes a huge hit because of this asshole is on the team. like it or not, pro athletes are role models, and this sets an absolutely disgusting example. i don't care if he has 'repented.' how dare he blame this on 'adversity.' look, maybe he wasn't raised with any morals, but he certainly wasn't facing any adversity as a pro football player making millions. and i might be wrong here, but didn't hank baskett get let go cause this piece of trash got out of jail? hank actually seems like nice, normal, down to earth guy with some morals and a baby on the way...and this sleeze gets to make money instead? i guess its all about wins and money at the end of the day (and i understand winning is important in sports, but when the cost is hiring someone without a soul, its not worth it). that also sends a bad message to kids - 'oh, well, we need to win, to get more money...so lets just turn a blind eye to the fact that this douche is a sick, violent fuck who killed and tortured innocent animals, and is probably a ticking time bomb before he pulls a similar move on a human...so long as he wins!'

It's called Chihuaua Burger.

Maybe if they sent him to stop animal cruelty in third world countries. He'd be dead in a week though.

Good luck to the Eagles finding some new fans. I will never watch them again.

A new low, even for BET.

This is sickening.

WTH?! It's like he didn't do anything wrong! I hate celebrities! I'm not into football, but I think it's a shame that Kendra's husband was dropped so Vick could come back. I thought there was some NFL rule that if you were caught gambling, in any way, you were kicked out of the NFL. Dogfighting is gambling. It makes no sense. I refuse to watch it or the channel it airs on. Whatever channel airs it should be ashamed of themselves.

MICHAEL VICK ISN'T SORRY FOR WHAT HE DID! HE IS ONLY SORRY HE GOT CAUGHT!

BOYCOTT THE EAGLES!!!

A new low for BET, TV, America, and the World.

And I thought the fact that the Hills whores are paid close to $100k per EPISODE was bad.

Shame on you BET.

PEER PRESSURE?! what is he, 13?! he's a grown man and sounds like he has yet to really take responsibility. he's still blaming it on some external source. can we "peer pressure" him into offing himself?

the dude helped drown, electrocute, and choke dogs to death because they lost their matches. so, can i choke this sonofabitch with my bare hands if he loses a game? or can his teammates just be allowed to tear chunks out of him while be bleeds to death? either way is just.

I hope it is a run away hit. Vick did his time and paid his fine. He deserves the same opportunities that these worthless white people who get exposed as racists (Paris Hilton, Dog the Bounty Hunter, Micheal Richards, Miley Cirus) get all the time on TV. Our culture is still so racist and negative on the black man that it can not even allow a man to redeem himself.

Go Mike Vick!

I love how he says he's a "human being." He's dirt. If he never got caught he would still be doing it. I don't see how anyone could support him.

Only in America would some racist television network give a convicted criminal his own reality tv show...

This sounds totally strange to me.I watch a serial where it is pictured on totally this type of concept.Anyways its good one and appreciate it lol.

Awesome post and strange news for me.Good luck vick.

haha, #43 - way to bring up the race card - nice excuse (i am so damn tired of that card, it aggravates the shit out of me and gives people a reason for racism!)... #46 is actually right, most all serial killers started out killing animals. and yes, the dog fighting was WRONG, but i think that people are missing the point. it wasnt soley the dog fighting, it was what he DID TO THOSE DOGS besides just fighting them. he tortured and mutliated them.. watch dogtown, see what he did before you open your big fat mouth and say this is about race, #43 - it HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH RACE - IF THE MAN WAS FRIGGIN BLUE I WOULD SAY HE SHOUDL ROT IN HELL, SO SHOULD THE NFL FOR RE-HIRING HIM AS WELL AS YOUR PRECIOUS LITTLE BET! jerk!

Hey FACE # 43,

It's SO EASY to play the RACE CARD.... that went sh*t went out w/ the 90's. Get over it already,

signed Iron Chic ( a hip hop DJ who voted for Obama, who also loves Don Imus)

as per my feelings on Vick, see #25

Ya know. Fish said it best. That Onion article really does read like fucking Shakespeare. I encourage everyone to check it out, after, of course, you read the rest of this site :)

vick wants people to get to know him as a person??? why doesn't he just go to work playing football and then go home and enjoy his life with his family?

I think the real problem is with his legal counsel.

#43
AHAHAHAHAHAHA race. Good one. I'm really sick of the "white man" too! Cause they have an entire network that is ONLY FOR WHITE PEOPLE. Oh no wait, thats BET. My mistake.

Michael Vick deserves to die for what he did to those dogs. End of story.

He had a career made money and made his bed by his actions. No one cares how he overcame adversity to get where he is, while in prison reflected on my life blah blah blah. He should be glad he has money so he can fade away. I figure if you can do what he did to dogs he has no regard for human life.

All these 'reality' shows are most unreal.There will be just another fake show again like usual.

I think we're all missing the point here. That post #12 is Fu**ing hilarious.

Basically i think everybody should just shut the fuck up with all this 'Fuck michael vick"stuff and let it go and move on.I know what he did was wrong but it was two years ago and its time to let it go,he did his time,lost his money.People saying he deserves to die behind some dogs ,thats just going way overboard I like dogs but not that much.Besides their are worst people in the NFL who in my eyes did way worse(Donte Stallworth,Leonard Little)and you don't see all these tree-hugging people say shit.or when Martha stewart got her own show when she got out of jail that was cool in americas eyes because afterall were talking about a sweet innocent looking white women and im not trying to be racist im calling it how i see it.Its funny how people can get worked up over the whole 'Michael Vick Gate" ,and say I hate him,fuck him but will not do the same thing when it comes to human life lost.im not a fan of what he did im a fan of football and of Mike vick allways will be.

Basically i think everybody should just shut the fuck up with all this 'Fuck michael vick"stuff and let it go and move on.I know what he did was wrong but it was two years ago and its time to let it go,he did his time,lost his money.People saying he deserves to die behind some dogs ,thats just going way overboard I like dogs but not that much.Besides their are worst people in the NFL who in my eyes did way worse(Donte Stallworth,Leonard Little)and you don't see all these tree-hugging people say shit.or when Martha stewart got her own show when she got out of jail that was cool in americas eyes because afterall were talking about a sweet innocent looking white women and im not trying to be racist im calling it how i see it.Its funny how people can get worked up over the whole 'Michael Vick Gate" ,and say I hate him,fuck him but will not do the same thing when it comes to human life lost.im not a fan of what he did im a fan of football and of Mike vick allways will be.

Spot ; rufff - ruff -rrrufff - ruf ... "Michael Vick"!!!

Fido; ruf-ruf-ruf-ruf ... "Michael Vick"?!?!???

Spot; ruf-wimper-wimper-wimper

Fido; rrrrrrrrrruuffffff -rrrruffff, ruff-ruff-ruff

Spot; howl-howl, ruff

Fido; bite, tear, tear, blood, dead - "Michael Vick"

Please...lets see Martha Stewart sold stocks with insider information; Michael Richards used the N-word; Don Imus said nappy headed hoes; Dog the Bounty Hunter used the N-word; Miley Cyrus made the slant eye face in a picture; Micahel Vick made tortured animals from the time they were born, beat them, starved them, forced them to fight to the death adn when they weren't killed he personally (by his own admission) smalled them into the concrete over and over and over again until they were dead, or he hooked them up to a car battery and electrocuted them to death, or he hung them by their neck unti they died and if he didn't feel like any of those options he drowned them. Which of those things doesn't fit? The kind of personality defects that would allow someone to do those actions without any remorse are symptoms of a sociopathic person. You don't fix that. Ever. VIck can rot in hell and so can the people who support him. The Eagles showed their true colors as an organization. Classless. Just the like the fans that gave him a standing ovation.

Just let it go. Let him move on and just do the show!

I can't help but wonder, if Michael Vick had had sex with dogs instead of clipping battery cables to their ears and tossing them into pools of water to watch them die, would the NFL have been so eager to take him back? Why not?

People all i can say is read this Matthew 18;15-35 and this tells it all. For those who don't have a bible it basically says forgive people and don't hold grudges if you want God to forgive you.I see people making evil comments saying i hope he dies,get raped thats not going to erase what happened ,you dont fix a bad act that someone did by wishing evil things on him you fix it with pray and forgivness. Even though i was dispointed what he did I would't wish death on him .some of you need to think what kind of person that makes you by saying that type of stuff a" HYPOCRITE".Maybe god allowed this to happen to him for a reason.it was to fix the old person he was and to become another man who makes better decisions in life.what im trying to say is we all have fault some of us bigger than others but being evil and saying nasty things don't fix faults.God bless !!!!

#43 What was that you said about being racist? I'd hate to have to shame and explain to you just how wrong you are. At the moment in America the standards of racism are higher for black racism on whites than the other way around. Back in the day people realized their mistakes, that would be the whole point of North vs. South and slaves being granted freedom. There are still racists but they certainly aren't the majority. I think instead of using this time for meaningless racist hate from both sides you should be using it for redemption and recovery.

In any case, it isn't about Michael Vick's skin color. Animal abuse has absolutely no tie with racism it has to do with a persons mental stability. It doesn't matter who does it, what matters is that it's wrong and Vick was wrong. The only reason he doesn't deserve a chance at redemption is because he isn't sincere about taking responsibility and making retribution.

And no, I'm not religious if that's what you're thinking by now.

64 hey prince!...

lemme get that page from the GOOD BOOK so i can roll up some weed, im out of papers. afterwards, take that bible of yours and shove it up your asshole! we're all lucky enough to live in a country with separation of church and state... how bout you get the fuck out of here?

58, 59, 43

comparing vick to stallworth, martha stewart?... vick is the worst of them all. it's not a race thing. IT'S NOT A RACE THING. but 58 is obviously one of those mogoloids that posts everything two or three times cause he's never used a computer before... and you can see how painfully fucking dumb or foreign number 43 is... again the only ones to be defending vick are the ones that have learning deficiencies...

Look, Michael Vick doesn't even know what he did wrong. He knows that it got him in trouble and cost him money but he doesn't have a clue as to what the fuss is all about. He thinks that it's perfectly ok to attach jumper cables to dogs ears, throw them in pools of water and have fun, watching as they struggle for their last breaths. It seems like a perfectly reasonable hobby to him. And so do many of his fans. After all, they were HIS dogs. These people think Donte Stollworth commited the greater crime because he caused the death of a person. They are incapable of comprehending the notion of intention.
But really you have to wonder about ball club owners and folks like that. I mean, these are business people and are capable of reason. So, I ask again, if he had fucked the dogs instead of torturing them would the NFL had wanted him back? Why not?

Who the fuck gave this guy a show!?! Of course he is going to say it is to show what not to do... he's just trying to get paid. So he got out after 23 months where he was prolly segregated from the real prisoners, and gets his old job back with "just" a 1.6 million dollar contract? People greet him with no protest, he loses some endorsements but instead gets his own tv show!! what is this saying to kids? "if you are rich then no matter what you do it wont hurt u." since he went to jail the only thing he has lost is a few million dollars which people are now throwing at him AND he is more famous than ever and people are trying to turn him into a role model. Way to go television producers, forget sending a message, just do whatever will get publicity and money. what a joke. if this is really a documentary and he is doing this to help other kids then he shouldn't get paid for it!!! Fucking morons.

Vick the sick fuck, served no time for animal cruelty. The 23 months were for gambling and racketeering charges.

He is a sadistic, sociopathic fuck and anyone who says it was "just dogs" is just as sick of a hole for a sole, fucked up bastard as he is.

Try this on - used to be legal to beat the shit out of and torture your slaves, wives and kids too when they were "just" property. Fucker and anyone who excuses or supports him make my skin crawl.

I'm going to watch that show every time it comes on and I'm buying a mike vick eagles jersy.hell I might even get my dog a jersy.You know why just because it makes all you stupid mike vick haters mad .Your anger brings a smile to my face and because i really like mike vick as a football player.Its funny how all you pepole can sit on the computer and comment about how much you hate mike vick ,and how much of a horrible person he is.if you think what he did was so wrong ,what have you done to stop it riddle me that I'll tell you what you'll done 'NOTHING' not a damn thing but you care about dogs so much my ass , since you care about dogs so much why don't you go and marry one and just shut the fuck up already,because this shit is too old to be still holding on to it get over it he got his job back and its a matter of time before he start getting indorsements back I cant wait just like all the other scumbags in the nfl who beat their wife,killed someone driving drunk,abused drugs,raped somebody.the trurth of the matter is tv is about money and nothing brings more money than controversy and if tv was built on moral standards than the majority of shows on tv wouldn't be on.remember money talks bullshit walks thats how the game goes.hes getting the same treatment like all those other celebrity who did stupid shit and got a tv show(Martha stewart,Paris hilton dog the bounty hunter etc.)you knows whats funny to me i did'nt see nobody shit when mike tyson went to jail for raping a woman,as a matter of fact he became a bigger celebrity when he got out,in my eyes its nothing worse than rape I dont care if mike vick burned ,drowned,electricuted,100 new born puppies its no excuse for rape but yet america was content with that shit it goes to show you america has bullshit a priorities mixed up.if only rape victims can get the same attention as a dog than things will be all right,America all ways priding its self as a forgiving country and how we believe in redemption ,how were so christian and does the oposite of what they stand for.If you ask me America been sold their sole to the devil way before mike vick.

First couple of beers for you, prince917?

What have YOU done for rape victims? You work a hotline for victims or a shelter? You a pastor or detective? You advocate for tougher laws for victims of sexual violence?

FUCK YOU you piece of illiterate racist ass shit . Go back to see how many times you can be a baby-daddy and how much poon you can score.

And guess what douchefuck! I care about PEOPLE too!!! I actually DO volunteer at both a crisis center AND volunteer at my local animal shelter! I even have three dogs rescued from loser negligent fuckheads like yourself!!!

@67

Hard to say, since bestiality is only a misdemeanor in the states where it is even in the criminal code. Check out petabuse.com (WARNING it is an extremely upsetting site).

Like I said - the time he served was for the criminal enterprise charges only - NOT for animal cruelty. .Shows you how fucked up our justice system is.

Just one more proud addition to the National Felon League.

@72 but here's the thing. let's say Michael Vick fucked his dogs instead of torturing them...went to prison.. "did the time".... and he was out
would a guy like prince917 still be defending him? would P917 and the NFL and all the babby-daddies of the world be still be saying, "let the guy play!"
no way! never would he be able to run down a football field again. not if he had sex with the dog! IT'S NOT MANLY. but torturing them and killing them is fairly acceptable. especially to guys like prince917 who is obviously a women's rights advocate. and, you know, prince917 probably spends lots of time and resources giving back to society in all sorts of helpful ways. that's probably why he's called "prince"!

this assh0le has no excuse to hurt any animal
NOBODY does
he makes millions of dollars
it aint the hood no more
i guess just to prove he's still "real"
in my eyes he's just a worthless loser wannabe who
doesn't deserve any publicity
and should be tortured the way he did to those dogs

First Vickisasickfuck I can tell you are not that bright 1 by your word choice " douchefuck" "fuckhead" give me a break how old are you 13 go get a life 2 how do you know what color i am to call me racist.For susan cotton Idont know what would have happened to Vick if he had sex with a dog thats not even a point because it did'nt happen,what if Donte Stallworth would have killed a little kid instead of a grown man?Would you even care if it wasn't mike vick who got caught fighting dogs?I like how people call me names and don't even know me, How are you going to get mad at me for my opinion,just because i don't think like you!It's clear you don't understand where i'm not defending Vick for what he did what i'm saying give him the same treatment as all the other celebrity who did stupid shit and was rewarded for bad behavior give him a chance at redemption just like all the other people who did stupid shit before him and people gave a second chance.Everybody deserves to move on with their life even him.

"everbody deserves to move on with their life even him"

1. by your logic we should have no courts and no prisons... hell, all rapists, child molesters and serial killers, bangers, etc. should be let out for their "second chance." In fact, I bet you would be the first to volunteer to let "rehabbed" rapists move next door to your sister or daughter! Because after all, rape and murder are just "stupid shit."

2. This is not a post about Donte Stallworth but about Vick, you moron. How do you know that any of us are not as equally outraged by his case? Most of the posters on here are livid that this self-pitying, dumb as a box of rocks, hole for a soul shit bag continues to profit from his violent crimes.

3. I'm in my 40s, and stand by both "douchefuck" and "fuckhead" - as I believe them to be apt descriptions of you. If you can't stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen.

Susan @73

Well played and good insight! Maybe if Vick had sex with the dogs by strapping them to the RAPE stand? "Man, I GAVE it to that bitch!!!!!!!!! She be sqealin' and cryin' and just did it haaarrrrder!! " (the boyz raise their 32 oz Colt 45s in admiration - Vick is nominated for MVP)

first using words like that when your're in your 40's make you seem immature you should really upgrade your vocabulary.I can tell your're not that bright or have bad understandings.I did't say people don't need to go jail or recieve punishment,what i was saying is if he paid his debt to society he has the right to move on with his life.How is he profittinfg from his crime by getting his job back or getting a tv show?If thats the case everybody who went to jail and got a job profitted from their crime.the point is he paid his debt to society no matter what you think he has the right to move on with his life thats the way it goes.what if he was a regular person and he went to jail for the same thing he can't get a job or move on with his life.sorry the world doesn't revolve aroud you are live by your standards."If you can't stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen" please!! what heat if you think your're annoying me with adolescent name-calling, bias comments/remarks you must be crazy it takes way more than that to get to me.remember what i said your anger/hatred makes me smile.

Using words like those (not "that" make me angry, not immature).

And, I do believe that given your atrocious grammar and punctation that perhaps you are the one who is not too bright or educated.

examples:

bad understandings???? try, "poor comprehension"
"profittinfg"? "profitted"? "aroud"?

And now I understand it all - anger/hatred makes you SMILE!? Nice! Vick likes anger and hatred too - he just tortured dogs in the ring for his dose of it.

I obviously got to you, or you would not have responded to you in the first place.

Finally - the world it would seem, revolves around Michael Vick.

"I'm going to watch that show every time it comes on and I'm buying a mike vick eagles jersy.hell I might even get my dog a jersy.You know why just because it makes all you stupid mike vick haters mad .Your anger brings a smile to my face and because i really like mike vick as a football player.Its funny how all you pepole can sit on the computer and comment about how much you hate ......."
i guess i don't understand you, prince.
donte stollworth was in a traffic accident. he was driving drunk and he is responsible, but it was an accident. he stopped. he called the police. he tried to assist. he made restitution as best he could. he told the truth. all on his own. that takes real guts. i have driven drunk many times. years ago, but i have done it. there were times that i was so drunk i didn't know where my car was the next day. it is only by the grace of god that i didn't kill someone. i am just as guilty as donte stollworth. i had better luck. that's all.
donte stollworth didn't kill for the fun of it.
michael vick attached jumper cables to the ears of beaten and bloodied dogs. he threw them into pools of water and watched as they fought for their last breaths. he did it for fun. he could afford to do anything that he wanted to for fun. that's what he wanted to do.
men who enjoy causing hideous pain to helpless and blameless creatures. for fun. are you smiling, prince?

first of all this is a blog not a grammar class.I guess thats all you can put up for an defense is try to belittle me with stupid grammar mistakes(sorry didn't know you was an grammar teacher or this was english class)I still think your're not that bright of a person.I think your're the one thats getting heated thats why you can't even stick to the subject thats being talked about.the world doesn't revolve around mike vick it just the the way GOD mapped it out.I'm not going to get into the bible because you seem like a person who doesn't read it very much or at all but i can be wrong,remember you responded to me first ,you was the one who got your panties in a bunch just because i voiced my opinion.Susan what Donte Stallworth did was reckless and iresponsible because the whole thing would have never happen had he not driven that car point blank.he knew he was intoxicated but he still choose to drive ,it doesn't make it right just because he called the police and paid the family of the victim those people have live every day without their loved one all because of something he did'nt have to do.how are you going to criticise a man for what he did and your're no angel yourself.so if mike vick would of killed the dogs in a more humane way and gave them a proper burial that would have been better i guest thats what your're trying to say.if it was a accident way did he plead guilty to vehicular homicide why did he pay the family of the victim why did go to jail ,why did he get suspended for a whole season if it was just in accident it was an accident an accident that was his own fault.would you feel the same had that been your dad or one of your loved ones i don't think so.what donte stallworth did is pay his way out of trouble because had that been an regular person they would be in jail he got what you call justice by pocket book he wasn't being noble by doing the right thing for the right reason he was saving his ass ,because if he wanted to do the right thing he would have never drove in the first place know that takes real guts to be responsible.just like vick all that money and he couldn't call a cab or a friend.

Say all you want, nobody of an importance reads "the superficial".
And saying he she be tortured like the dogs makes you worst if not as bad as him.

He still has more money then any of you will EVER have soooooo if I were yall, I'd shut the fuck up.

Funny thing about opinions....NOBODY GIVES A FUCK ABOUT YOURS.

Say all you want, nobody of an importance reads "the superficial".
And saying he she be tortured like the dogs makes you worst if not as bad as him.

He still has more money then any of you will EVER have soooooo if I were yall, I'd shut the fuck up.

Funny thing about opinions....NOBODY GIVES A FUCK ABOUT YOURS.

LOLOLOL!

Prince. Guess what else? I'm a former minister - anger, foul mouth and all! So chances are, I am a little more familiar with the Bible than you!

And before you wail on me about how can a minister talk like you blah, blah, blah - said Minister NOT saint, so don't even start with that deflecting crap.

You see, there is this little thing Vick is missing that I need (and that Scripture talks ALOT about) to believe Vick has changed - repentance. The Hebrew verb root, if you translate it,means "to turn away" - I don't see a turn in Mr. Vick - his only concern seems to be restoring his lost fortune and his image. I have seen no evidence in action or deed that he really believes that what he did, fighting and torturing and killing those dogs was wrong. That lack of empathy, regard for life and enjoyment of suffering, makes him a sociopath, and I do not believe an authentic worshipper of anyone but himself. Having been in ministry for 20 years, I was a party to many "jailhouse conversions" and with only two exceptions, they were all acts of manipulation.

As for the the idea that God gave man "dominion" over the animals - again, if you go back to the original Hebrew, the word translated as "dominion," is better translated as stewardship and care - not use and exploitation. In other words, the emphasis is not on human superiority, but human accountability. The earth and all that inhabits is a TRUST to humans, and we will answer how we treated it and cared for it.

I am well aware that at my judgement, I will have to account to God why I particularly as a pastor, cannot forgive Vick, and harbor hatred for him. You, my friend will need to account to God why you chose to ignore his repugnant acts because he can throw a football, support him financially, and seek to agitate those you are disturbed by his sickness, by buying Eagle jerseys for yourself and your dog. And of course, Vick will have to answer for his deeds as well - and only God knows what is in his heart.

Jesus reserved some of his most brutal criticism for those who ignored injustice. It has been said that the measure of the integrity of a man can be found in what he does when he thinks no one is looking - Michael Vick engaged in felonious activities and animal abuse and torture.

Vick Fan - so your ultimate measure is $$$$ and that should silence all of us. I vote for a salary comparison of all of the posters on this blog, and only the person with the highest gets to keep his comments online. LOL!!! And to be more precise , YOU don't five a fuck about opinions that counter your's.

prince, let's look at two examples:

1. someone is talking on their cell phone, not paying attention to the road, and they hit your dad with their car and kill him.

2. a group of guys is out looking for fun. they kidnap your dad and take him to a hidden shed where they all brutally rape him. then they beat him till he's a bloody pulp, yank out his teeth and hold cigarettes to his skin. they break his legs and hands with a baseball bat and then they put electrodes on his testicles and toss him into a pool of water and watch while he fights for his life. they do this for fun.

does one of these scenes seem worse to you than the other? or, not really?

you are wasting your breath, vicksasickfuck. ranger and prince and vickfan7 are just like michael vick. they are sadistic and they are dumb as rocks. and believe me, they understand you far better than you will ever be able to understand them. get down on your knees and thank god for that. right now.

I'm glad to see you know something about the bible but i'm disspointed that you don't read with understanding.How do you know he didnt repent for what he did thats right you don't know so you are no one else have the right to judge him its between him and God point blank period just like you said.unless your're a mind reader theres no way of telling what hes really feeling so who are you to judge him the bible say" ye without sin cast the first stone"so unless your're perfect thats means you.maybe you should start reading your're bible again just a suggestion.i'll tell you a story about 10 years ago i was struck by a drunk driver and i almost died the man was caught and when it first happened i had all this hatred in me towards him it wasn't till i started to read the bible and learn about forgivness till i begin to understand the power of christ jesus in order for God to forgive you you must find in your heart to forgive people who trepassed you.in other words god don't forgive people who don't forgive people themselves he sees that as hypocricy.in order to fully move on with your life you must not look at the past just like you said we all have our day of judgement with god so let god deal with him not you ,you can not play god.your past mistake don't define who you are as a person or determine where your're going in life. how do i know you repented for every bad thing you did in life thats right i don't know i can only assume and guest but the only person who know is you and God thats it so unless you live inside of his body 24/7 you don't know that.I guest you can say me and you are two diffrent people,i never understood why people put atletes/entertainers on a pedastool and act like they don't have fault hes human he allowed to make mistakes or bad decision it gives nobody the right to judge him when he does.the bible also speak about redemption saving ones sole everybody gets a chance at it even him, all i'm saying if the man done his time payed what he had to pay to society that all whats required for your approval but for as repentance thats between him and god not you. No doubt what he did was stupid and repulsive but what can i do sit around and hold hatred in my heart for him no thats not me whats you do in that situation is not be hateful but you pray for him that he can become a better man. i think thats why the world is in the shape its in now because of peoples mindset, their first notion is not to pray but to be mean and evil thats makes you no better than him in that case.you can't espect me to think like you because we are two diffrent people.

This is an earlier note from prince917:

I'm going to watch that show every time it comes on and I'm buying a mike vick eagles jersy.hell I might even get my dog a jersy.You know why just because it makes all you stupid mike vick haters mad .Your anger brings a smile to my face and because i really like mike vick as a football player.Its funny how all you pepole can sit on the computer and comment about how much you hate mike vick ,and how much of a horrible person he is.if you think what he did was so wrong ,what have you done to stop it riddle me that I'll tell you what you'll done 'NOTHING' not a damn thing but you care about dogs so much my ass , since you care about dogs so much why don't you go and marry one and just shut the fuck up already,because this shit is too old to be still holding on to it get over it he got his job back and its a matter of time before he start getting indorsements back I cant wait just like all the other scumbags in the nfl who beat their wife,killed someone driving drunk,abused drugs,raped ...........

Why, in only a couple of days, he has changed so much! On October 11(only 3 days ago) he was a vicious little thug. Today, by the grace of God and his endless prayers he is a changed man. Praise God! I espect ther is a spesel angel fur hem.

susan wow vicious little thug please i don't know how you can be a thug in the army i know you want attention but damn you don't have to get it this way.I always felt that way it didn't just happen overnight.maybe you should start reading your bible instead of thinking evil. to judge someone you don't know is a little unhuman.by the way i'm too beautiful to be a thug!!! i think you just don't want to hear the truth so thats the only defense you have to fire back name-calling,and not acurate name calling at that ,atleast if your going to do it try to be right with the description.

"Faith without works is dead." Where are Vick's works? The only works I see are those to repair his image and his bank account.

Maybe you need to read with more understanding, Ranger/Prince. Reading the Gospels once, and not even in their entirety, does not qualify you as a Bible scholar, a teacher or a preacher.

If you want to understand my rage, go to a couple of dogfighting websites and look at some of the after picture of the dogs maybe the pictures of their ripped flesh, missing limbs, and portions of their face torn off - but wait, those photos will make you smile, because you know that they raise my hate and anger.

As for "thugs" in the army - you watch Gangland? Our military is rife with gang members - estimated in the tens of thousands.

I think it was the theologian Paul Tillich (Reinhold Neibuhr?) who said that "a Christian needs to have the Bible in one hand and the newspaper in another."

You might consider yourself saved, but you strike me as naive, complacent and smug,

One last note? Did you know that Adolph Hitler adored animals? He was a vegetarian ahad numerous pets, and passed the first ever animal welfare legislation of Germany! Does this mean I should put aside all of that "WWII Holocaust stupid shit?" Hey Susan! I wonder if Cafe Press sells "I Heart Hitler" ts?

Susan C. props and thanks for the support!

it doesn't matter if i read the bible once or 3 million times the words and scriptures in the bible mean the same thing every time you read them.its either you going to live by what the bible says or nothing at all its no in between.you can't twist the bible to make it side with your beliefs.you say you were a minister well i wouldn't attend your chruch because you seem like you were not good at it.The bible was made for us to live by the ways of christ not the ways of the world.Its easy to kick a man when hes down and belittle him but its harder to forgive someone which i see you have a problem with.I just didn't just start reading the bible i grew up in church went to church every sunday,I'll admit i'm no jesus freak or a religious nut but i do know what the bible says and fully understand it.i'm not naive or complacent i just live by a whole diffrent creed than you i try to look past the bad someone did and see a change for good.i seen all those dog fighting websites and yes its heart wrenching but what does michael vick have to do with that,hes suppose to take the blame for everybody who fought dogs?he can only be responsible for what he did.I don't know what you are talking about gang members in the army??? show me one and i'll personally give you a million dollars first you said tens of thousands if its that many gang members in the army how come theres no gang violence,the army checks your background its not that easy to get in the army, thats people who used to be in a gang what your're talking about.my advice to you is stop watching tv.i've been in the army 81/2 years three diffent bases and i never seen one gang member.its not like you show to an enlistment office and say i want to join and their like allright come sign these papers and thats it,its a little more complicated than that,like a background check,taking and passing a physical,taking a asvab test,providing a high school diploma, drug test and even if you pass all that stuff they have a right to deny you if you have any affillation with a gang.lets see the logics of a gang member actually joining the army seeing how most gang member didn't graduate high school,are convicted felons,dope smokers,etc the logic of that happening is slim to none try again with that gangland Bull@#&% you shouldn't believe everything you see on tv. i can see that being logical in the 50's and 60's back when it was way easier to enter the service and the standards wasn't as strict but now thats slim to none.esspecially the way the army is now where they don't need soldiers its an surplus in soldiers since the stock market crashed and people flooded to the service for a job.i know people with a sqeeky clean background whos well qualified to go to army and can't get in so its ten times harder for a gang member to get in. think about it you said tens of thousands gang members if it was that easy for a gang member just think how easy it would be for a spy or terrorist to get in.if you want to believe that the u.s army is flooded with gang members go right ahead.i guest you believe its a such thing as bigfoot to LOL!!!!if your're that easily convinced i have some beach front property in idaho i want to sell you and you call me naive.Do you even know Vick personally to know hes not sorry for what he did ,thats what you do when you make a mistake you keep on moving ahead and try not to make the same mistake twice,thats we he doing not looking at the past and moving on with his life.are you just going to stay mad at the man forever its the past you are me can't reverse it once its done its written in stone and no turning back so its no since on me sending my self to hell for what he did hes going to have to answer for that when his time comes not you are me.

Forgive Michael Vick. What does that mean? That he should play football and have a TV show? My concern is that torturing animals is the "it" pastime of a nation full of sadistic thugs. That this person is acceptable on prime time TV and runs down a field with people cheering for him is frightening. people who torture defenseless creatures are the scum of the earth. there can be no doubt about this. i mean, if they aren't, then who is?
forgive him? what does that mean? hire him? invite him to christmas dinner? i think it means, "please stop saying all these terrible things about my precious hero". i think it means, "shut up".
on one of these blog sites a guy wrote that all of this outcry against dog fighting and torturing is as racist as the crack cocaine laws.... because these are things that black people like to do.
what?
but this is really what prince is all about. because all of this talk about forgiveness and drunk driving and bad grammar and the army is just an attempt to get you and me to say, well, gee, maybe these guys aren't so bad after all. maybe it's really ok to electrocute dogs. maybe i'm just a narrow minded, hard hearted, and GODLESS hypocrite.
these people are stupid, sadistic and they are congenital liars.
i get it now.. i just never really knew that people like this existed.
Take care of yourself, Vickisasickfuck. And I wish you the best of luck.

susan you are one strange human being ,first of all if you don't agree with me thats fine your're intitled to your own opinion.i'm speaking from my stand point not everybodies else this is what i believe I could care less what you are the other guy feel or say about this situation.So what the guy plays football,so do all the other players who go and commit crimes and get their job back,would it make you feel better if he worked at walmart or mcdonalds hell if they banned every player in the nfl who commited crimes it wouldn't have players.You are not perfect not by a longshot nor i'm i and I never claimed to be,i just live by a diffrent creed than you,I was raised diffrent than you,the truth is you know nothing about me and vice versa so how can you get mad at me because i dont think like you.you must learn that people are intltled to their own opinion and just because you feel a diffrent way about something i don't have to agree with you.you really do come off as a narrow minded, hard hearted, and GODLESS hypocrite and you forgot bias and clueless.and far as drunk driving and bad grammar and the army those were subjects you brought up i was just enlighting you about them but the forgivness i was speaking on something i believe in.I was taught not to go around hating people.you and the other guy started with the name-calling,character judging,and other stuff not me.i think its the fact that i don't think like you that gets ya'll mad,but thats ok theres millions of other peole who don't think like you or me for that matter are you going to get mad at them.if you feel that strongly about this situation you should write BET and tell them how you feel and see if they care.I'm giving the guy a second chance rather you like it or not get over it.why do you act like your're god and everybody who did something wrong has to get your approval before they can move on with their life.your're just another human just like him who just like him made bad decisions so you have no right to judge him or me.

Vick is the best! Stop hating on him! he back on his feet just like I knew he would be and thats why he's BACKKKKKKKKKK HATERSSSSSS....now what you gone do?....nothing. VICK BABY!

Ranger/Prince - last comment ... you are clearly living in your own little world ...

Gang Members Get Trained in the Army

La Opinión, News Report, Claudia Núñez, Translated by Peter Micek, Posted: Mar 09, 2008

LOS ANGELES – While hundreds of Mexican soldiers are deserting the army to join drug trafficking gangs, California is facing the opposite problem: A growing number of gang members here have infiltrated the U.S. Armed Forces in order to receive military training.

The numbers speak for themselves: In 2003 there were just 16 incidents of gang members in the U.S. Armed Forces, while in 2006 the total was 10,309, according to the study, "Gang-Related Activity in the U.S. Armed Forces Increasing," released in 2007 by the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI). Twenty-two official entities, including the Los Angeles Police Department, participated in the report.

This study, classified as sensitive and meant for use by official agencies, reveals the presence of street gangs like the Mexican Mafia (EME), the Mara Salvatrucha, Hells Angels, The 18th Street Gang, the Norteños, the Sureños, as well as various supremacist groups on military bases.

Two years before this report came to the light, the Ceres Police Department, in northern California, already knew its fatal results.

Howard Stevenson, sergeant of the force, was killed by Andrés Ray, a Marine who went AWOL from Camp Pendleton and who police say was a longtime member of the Norteños.

According to a report by the Ceres Police, Raya shot the sergeant five times in cold blood, with two shots to the head. Three other officials were injured in the incident and the gang member lost his life.

As a result of the bloodshed, local Police Chief Art De Werk told his staff to treat the anti-gang fight as an exercise in military strategy.

"Gang members are using the techniques and skills learned in the Army to commit crimes, and there is no doubt about that. The worrisome thing is that they endanger not only officials but all of society," says Gregory Lee, former supervisor of the national Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA) and private consultant in Los Angeles.

In Southern California the orders are clear: Any indication that a gang member has military training must immediately be reported.

Each time authorities enter a gang member’s house, said an anti-gang official who preferred to remain anonymous, "We have precise orders to look for photos, Army uniforms, anything related to the Army or that demonstrates a military training of that gang or gang member."

That information is classified in a special gang database, according to the source.

"For us, it is vital to know if we are confronting an enemy with military training," says Lieutenant George Zagurski, member of the intelligence unit of the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department. He declined to state the number of local gang members known to have been trained by the Army.

"These are facts for exclusive and official use. We do not want to discuss this with the public," the lieutenant told La Opinión.

Despite the confidential nature of the topic, some experts calculate that out of 100 people who enter the Army, two have a gang affiliation.

"It’s an open secret that the ringleaders of local gangs are encouraging their younger members to enter the Army and receive military training and later to train the rest of the group," claims the former DEA advisor.

The National Gang Task Force reports that from 2003 to 2006, the Army investigated more than 100 cases of crimes that involved soldiers related to the most dangerous gangs in the country.

Meanwhile, the U.S. Armed Forces Criminal Investigation Command has documented the death of at least two soldiers – killed, it appears, by other soldiers with ties to rival gangs. It also registered an increase in the amount of violent incidents between soldiers who are affiliated with gangs.

"Officials do not want this topic spoken about because it uncovers how the Army, in its rush to recruit more soldiers, has had to lower its security standards, allowing in volunteers with criminal backgrounds. We all know that a high number of soldiers has died on the battlefield and others have deserted. We don’t have enough soldiers and the Army has strict orders to increase the number of enlisted troops nationwide, even if that means recruiting criminals," Lee maintains.

Under the so-called "moral waiver," the Armed Forces between 2003 and 2006 permitted into the Army 4,230 convicted criminals, 43,977 people with misdemeanors on their records and 58,561 drug addicts. In 2007, another 10,000 people with criminal records were recruited by the Pentagon, according to an investigation by the Michael D. Palm Center, based in Santa Barbara, Calif.

"The problem is not that the Armed Forces are recruiting convicts. On the contrary, we think that the Army has very good programs of rehabilitation. The problem is the increase. The Army is more worried about filling its recruitment quotas than in looking for the best candidates," says lead researcher Michael Bucai.

Nevertheless, it is becoming more and more difficult to detect links between gangs and those interested in enlisting in the Army. According to gang experts, these mafias are using new strategies to infiltrate their members into the Armed Forces.

"Many older gang members are taking care of their newer members so that they maintain a clean criminal record and thus can have unrestricted access to the Army or guns," says an anti-gang official. "We have noticed that in common crimes, gang members are forced to give the name of another member of the group that already has a record so that he gets written up and helps the others to remain clean."

The infiltration of gang members into the Armed Forces must be taken seriously because it represents an important risk for local and national security, says the former DEA agent.

"Gang violence is getting more and more acute and bloody and is the price that society must pay for the faults in the system," Lee opines.

On various occasions, La Opinión tried to contact the Department of Defense spokesperson to understand how they are dealing with the issue. However, as of this issue, there has been no response.

At an international anti-gang police summit in Los Angeles on March 3, officials weighed in about whether gang members have infiltrated the U.S. military.

"These are just rumors," said Christy McCampbell, Deputy Assistant Secretary for International Narcotics and Law Enforcement Affairs. For his part, Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa said he did not know of any evidence of gang infiltration in the U.S. Army but would consider looking into the matter.

Also at the summit, Martín Escorza, head of the National Gang Task Force, said the issue is real. Adding to the problem, he said, is the presence of gang members trained in the armed forces of their respective countries, like El Salvador or Mexico.

Susan - best to you too!

wow that was a study did from 2003-06 when there was relaxation of recruiting standards, recruiter misconduct and the military’s lack of enforcement (gang membership is not prohibited in the Army) have compounded the problem and allowed gang member presence in the military to proliferate thats not now(as in 2009) that was not just the army it was all of the armed forces together(army,navy,air force,marines).that was when the military was in a rush to get soldiers and they lowered their standards to get more troops,its not that easy to get in anymore.like i said i been in the army for 81/2 years and never seen one gang member,that was back when the army was giving a lot of moral waivers thats probably why the army very rarely gives moral waivers anymore that means they rarely take convicted felons,the background check is way more in dept.it have people with sweeky clean records phyically fit and its hard for them to get in. if you would like to think the army is full of gang members go ahead.All branches of the military are different when it comes to recruiting standards, but the army have regulations regarding felonies. The army maintains a high "moral" standard for recruits and is the basis for not allowing most felonies. If the felony occurred when you were a juvenile you have a better chance of getting in the military but its still slim but if the felony occurred as an adult you may have a hard time getting in, if at all.Still, this day and age it's highly unlikely you'll be able to join up, the Army is very picky about recruits and wants the best candidates they can get.so i guest your're anti-military now,Even if there are gang members in the army it, what does that have to do with me?go do some more research try finding something from 2009 not six years old.so what bad apples are everywhere how do i know you don't have gang members working with you?