Aug 31 2009Carrie Prejean sues for 'religious discrimination.' Christ...


Carrie Prejean filed a lawsuit today claiming Shanna Moakler and Keith Lewis, but strangely not the Donald, subjected her to "religious discrimination, defamation, public disclosure of private facts, intentional infliction of emotional distress, and negligent infliction of emotional distress." Carrie had teased a lawsuit a month ago only to use the opportunity to push her upcoming book, and Miss California Pageant officials are calling her out for the same tactic, according to TMZ:

TMZ just received the following statement from Miss California USA honcho Keith Lewis, lashing back at the lawsuit Carrie Prejean filed against him this morning for religious discrimination:
"It appears that suits from both sides are now inevitable against the other. I would guess Carrie sees it as a chance to get publicity for her upcoming book because in the interviews I have seen, she talks about the suit and the book in the same breath.
We have no problem with her selling lots of books - considering in the current situation we could stand to profit from every copy she sells.
For us, it has never been about her beliefs and we have always just wanted to move on.
But it seems like Carrie really has nothing new to talk about or anything new in her life so the impression is she just keeps looking for ways to rehash her position as a victim because of her onstage answer."

How do I explain this to Carrie Prejean without hand puppets? The Miss California Organization invested in you, particularly in the chest region, to be the face and again, chest, of their Company. You were an Employee. But should an Employee decide to publicly latch onto divisive political causes in violation of its contract, whether it be bigoted anti-gay marriage legislation or retarded hippie protests with Move-On.org, the Company has every right to protect its investment. So, basically, you're still free to say whatever you want, but your employer is still free to fire you. That's not censorship, that's CAPITALISM. And in case you inexplicably missed the memo while subbing at FOX News, Jesus wants to dip his balls in it. It's his favorite.

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Who da fark is she again?

dear carrie,

fuck you. try giving to the poor like i told you to.

sincerely,
jesus

So what, only "liberal-approved" minorities (gays, blacks, head-choppin' Muslims) are allowed to clog the courts with horseshit discrimination suits? I don't believe I want to live in a country where hot chicks can't turn a court-mandated profit the same as any cross dressing atheist.

More power to her.

Shut up TimeKiller, you cock!

Oh Carrie, why can't you have your teeth bashed in, fingers choped off and be found dead in a dumpster already????

I can't wait to watch the Gay Mafia go ballistic over this.

GO CARRIE! Since when are people not allowed to express their own opinions? To be kicked out of a pageant because some faggot judge disagrees with her? And fish, you're giving lessons on capitalism? What a joke! Try freedom of speech and democracy. Fuck the liberal media. I'm fine with gay people, I personally oppose gay marriage but that doesn't mean I'm going to be unfair to those who approve of it.

they paid to have your boobs done isn't that enough u model citizen you, oh wait, you would like to say the wind blew not only your shirt but that last shred of dignity away - ok then amen.

this bitchs 15 minutes were up long ago. she needs to get a job.

How can I explain THIS? How is this publicly latching onto "divisive political causes, whether it be bigoted anti-gay marriage legislation" or retarded hippie protests with Move-On.org? She was asked her OPINION about gay marriage. As far as I know, in America we can still have OPINIONS, whether they are popular or not. If the entity asking the question did not want an controversy, they should not have asked.

BTW, it is the very same opinion about gay marriage that has been publicly expressed by the President of the United States, Barack Obama. As President, I guess you could say he is an employee of the citizens of the United States. Do you think perhaps we should "cut that employee loose", too?

Go tell him that.

Dumb cunt.

SAY HI TO YOUR IMAGINARY FRIEND FOR ME YOU CUNT.

GOD IS IMAGINARY
GOD IS IMAGINARY
GOD IS IMAGINARY
GOD IS IMAGINARY

Why shouldn't she sue? The question that prevented her from winning was loaded before she ever took the stage. Perez Hilton HIMSELF admitted that she was a front-runner until she responded to HIS loaded question. No, wait, I get it: it's only okay to exploit the women if the ORGANIZATION does it, and having an opinion that THE MAJORITY OF AMERICANS HOLD is forbidden. Yeah, that makes sense. *rollseyes*

ah yes the crazy conservative people (and I emphasize crazy and not the legitimate rational ones) come in swinging and fail to see that oops no one cares and their heroine is a plastic beauty queen who is using this as a way to become a Fox anchor. Also I'm sure God appreciates using his name as a front for her book. BTW she wasn't kicked out of the pageant, she was dismissed from her Ms. California post, at least get your facts straight - oh right we shouldn't care about those pesky things.

@10 Right after the pageant, she joined a political group that campaigns against Gay Marriage using the Miss California name in violation of her contract. It extended beyond the Perez issue. Fish linked to it in the story, but I forgot you bible-thumpers have selective reading skills.

This is awesome, and you are a fuckwit, Superficial Writer. You make me laugh most times, but when you get political, you're just another typical liberal. Yawn.

Imagine if she was black, or a Jew, or anything other than a white girl - no one, NO ONE would be questioning her lawsuit.

You yourself can't stop making fun of her religious beliefs, over and over and over again. In fact, it's the only material you've got on her. I know, the truth hurts, but since you don't know what that is, I'm sure you'll be fine.

You have never waxed more poetic. She's a ridiculous human being.

I hope Carrie sues them to homelessness . They are nothing but major haters .

Carrie is not only hot, but a sexy republican. And I love her.

I hope she wins and takes money directly out of Perez Hilton's account. Then I hope she gives the money to a charitable fund that helps gays become straight again. Maybe then the AIDS rate will drop.

It's always hilarious to see TV-fed Americans come out of the woodwork to comment on shit like this...nary a single original thought in their tiny FOX-fed brains, always spewing the usual right-wing talking points....blahblahblah "liberals." blah blah blah "jesus." Blah blah blah "you're persecuted if you say you're a Jebus humper." Blah blah blah "liberals again." Blah blah blah "gay conspiracy." You can set your watch by these people.

...Stupid brain-dead automatons who might as well just have a fucking TV decoder box for a brain. Just stop breathing okay? This country doesn't need a revolution...it needs the TV networks and radio networks (controlled by Clear Channel) to go dark. Then maybe you'll shake the feces out of your neurons and start thinking again.

in the end, all you Godless hypocrites will suffer the same fate as the pharisees and sadducees. Our society is failing because we have removed God from our lives. There is still time to change your path......

Thank you number 14 - all the people complaining she was discriminated against apparently don't read papers, watch the news, read it on the internet or otherwise, she violated her contract over 10 times by failing to appear at required events, they fired her months after the the pageant, and Donald called her a horrible to work with. But looks like she's not suing him because she knows she's no match for him, instead lets go after the people who had nothing to do with the words that came out of your mouth and I also recall that nude pictures are also a violation of her contract and they still refused to fire her until she made it impossible to ignore the breaches in her contract.

What 14 said.
Idiot Moron signed a contract with a company which means she was required to uphold company policy and obey it's rules. Instead she spat in it's face because she was pissed about an uppity queer making her look like a fool on TV. She got fired like she should have.

And all you wonderful patriots who are so fond of her really don't comprehend that whole freedom of speech thing do you? That applies to government regulation, not private corporate regulation. No federal or state government body had anything to do with her stupid ass getting fired so her rights were not infringed upon.

What I don't get is.. WTF are religious people doing on thesuperficial.com to begin with?

OH WHATS THAT?

YOU WHERE LOOKING AT KATE MOSS'S NIPPLES... AGAIN??

Yeah, that makes sense.

Assholes.

God loves pageants that's right big bikini clad pay for your boob job pageants - Go - God!

@21

Fuck you. You're wasting your life following something as real as Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy. You've been brainwashed since childhood to believe in magical invisible beings.

God.......is.......imaginary.

It really is too bad that this vile cunt never dated Ryan Jenkins. She'd look lovely in a suitcase. Just saying.

Haha - laughed out loud 24 - way to go!! haha

You people are ridiculous and unbelievable to reference the Fiore situation and either imply or directly state that CP deserves the same fate. SHAME ON YOU!!! SHAME!!! No one deserves that. NO ONE!!!

@24, amen!

She should run for governor and win and drive all the fags and fag lovers into the Bay with shark chum, way to many child molester(MJ) lovers and turd burglars on this site. Carrie will win that lawsuit !

Fuck off #29, and go clean the sand out of your vagina.

@ 31 - oh stop your blubbering Joe Jackson

Miss Prejean did not go out of her way to give a divisive statement. She was ASKED a divisive question and she gave an honest answer. She was polite but firm. She specifically said, "as for me and my family, this is what we believe." How is that being oppressive to inflammatory? It's about as passive as you can get. If anyone in this debacle is to be blamed, it is the pageant organization for allowed that idiot Perez Hilton to ask such a question in the first place. If she had answered in such a way as to please Perez, she would be attacked by the other side of the political continuum.

A no-win question is a bad question.

Miss Prejean did not go out of her way to give a divisive statement. She was ASKED a divisive question and she gave an honest answer. She was polite but firm. She specifically said, "as for me and my family, this is what we believe." How is that being oppressive to inflammatory? It's about as passive as you can get. If anyone in this debacle is to be blamed, it is the pageant organization for allowed that idiot Perez Hilton to ask such a question in the first place. If she had answered in such a way as to please Perez, she would be attacked by the other side of the political continuum.

A no-win question is a bad question.

Fish, Love 'ya, but when you get political you're just another liberal douche. Give us boobies and ass please. When I want politics I'll go to the National Review site.

The real issue here is being missed. Why in the world would they let Perez be a judge of anything? Stupid judge asked a stupid question. Now if they would just let in the Superficial writer we could have heard her answer a substantive question like: Which Kardashian scares you the most and why?

@24, I'm conservative and I'm a Christian and I come here to look at Kelly Brook NOT Kate Moss. You swine.

what a turd. she was fired for not fulfilling her contractual obligations... end of story.

she wants the right to be a homophobic rightwing whore. .......she should just apply for work on FOX NEWS

Sorry Fish, but there may be a violation of her first admendment rights. If the Miss Cali folks can show she signed them away, then this case is a no starter.

Let's see what we've got here:

Fake hair
Fake teeth
Fake tits
Fake tan

So you'll have to pardon the fuck out of me if I don't believe for a second that she's actually sincere about her so-called "views". She's simply an attention whore that can't stand to see her name out of print for more than two hours.

For anyone who might be confused: The Superficial Writer was apparently joking and you should not take anything that he said on California employment law as actual legal analysis. His statements were basically legally wrong, so you probably shouldn't quote him the next time you are on Judge Judy. I'd say more, but I charge several hundred dollars an hour to explain the mysteries of the law to people (with our without hand puppets).

Gays want tolerance but show none.

Would hit it with my angry fist. Both of them.

You kiddin me, fish? Those retarted hippie protesters you mentioned would never get fired from anything. EVER. That's whats wrong here.

And this poor girl isn't even nutty. All she did was speak her mind, and the only way liberals like you know how to react to that is to slander her and assassinate her character. Why don't you try providing an actual argument toward your position instead of constantly proving that you don't have one?

hey idiots, she was fired because she kept going to Christian rallies instead of showing up to meet her pageant obligations. It had nothing to do with the question she was asked. Therefore, FAIL.

I can't believe people are calling for her to get the "Fiore treatment." Jeez, I thought REPUBLICANS were supposed to be the "party of hate."

They fired her because of her beliefs and her stance on gay marriage, only they wrapped it in the pretty paper of "breaking her contract." It's how they get away with discrimination. I say go for it, Carrie. You'll probably lose, girlfriend, but good on you for fighting.

Do you know what the function of a penis is? Let's go back to third grade: besides expelling waste, it is to deposit semen into the proper receptacle. And what is that proper receptacle, class? That's right...a vagina. And how do we know a vagina is the proper receptacle?

No, Libby, not because we're brainwashed bible thumpers. Have you been watching MTV again? See me after class.

It's because the sperm contained within the semen travels up the fallopian tubes to reach the egg contained in a woman's ovary and merge with it, and that's how babies are born. The instructions couldn't be more clearly cut, and what's right and wrong couldn't be any more blatantly clear and obvious, so go out and live your lives the CORRECT way, class!

What are you doing, Libby? Looking up my past to try to find any sort of wrongdoing or character flaw for you to harp on in order to hide from the fact that you have absolutely no argument against this simple truth? Bad Libby! I'll see you in detention.

@Adam.leslie@gmail.com

Hey there Adam,

Let me first address you comment by saying reiterating my former statement: WTF IS A CONSERVATIVE CHRISTIAN DOING ON THESUPERFICIAL.COM LOOKING AT PICTURES OF KEELY BROOK/KATE MOSS? You hypocritical son of a whore, do you realize that SUPERFICIALITY as this site CLEARLY promotes is literally one of the mortal sins doctrined by conservative christianity???? IN ADDITION WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE WHICH HALF NAKED CELEBRITY YOU WHERE LOOKING AT, YOU STUPID FUCKFACE. IT'S A HALF NAKED CELEBRITY!!!!!!!!! You may want to pick up that little book you keep babbling on about called THE KING JAMES BIBLE AND MAYBE READ IT BEFORE MAKING RIDICULOUS RELIGIOUS CLAIMS.

Sincerely,


#24 AKA WTF

SEE YOU IN HELL ADAM

Nice name btw! What's that biblical???

I wanna dip my BAAAAAAAALLLS in it!!!!

When a Conservative is ignorant and intolerant they must be utterly destroyed, but when a Liberal is ignorant and intolerant, that's just freedom of speech.

Yours Truly,
MSNBC

I hope they counter-sue for breach of contract. And also for asshattery. Thank god I'm an atheist!

Jesus doesn't want to dip his balls in it—Louie does.

@2 agree with TimeKiller 100%. more power to her

@Liberals - your hypocrasy is astonishing. Just because she has conservative view you guys want to destroy her. Yet you are the ones that call yourself progressive ?

@All God Bashers - If somebody can prove to me he dosent exist via scientific facts, other then the hearsay you kids spew out, im all ears.
Again please try and prove to me that he dosent exist.

looking forward to this.

It would have been a freedom of speech issue had she not been stupid enough to pull diva b.s. (via email!) to her employer and demand she make her own schedule, when, by contract they do it for her. She's only suing to remind people who belive in her views so she can score more $$$ on the lecture circuit. What better way than to have a lengthy trial under the pretense of first amendment rights to drag out her fame?

I used to agree with her on the premise of her free speech (though I disagreed with her opinion), but now she's obviously milking it. She'll fail as the evidence that she actually did contractually break her agreement is overwhelming - especially when Trump gave her a second chance to make amends contractually.

@ 53: There's a guy named "Ted" knocking, wanting to buy his way in.. what do you think?

53- There's no need to disprove the existence of god- it's never been proven in the first place! Bashing god would just be pointless- might as well bash my childhood imaginary friend or the tooth fairy. And as for Miss Prejean, I thinks it's HER hypocrisy that's so offensive. Calling herself a christian while posing topless and discriminating against others- I don't understand why real christians aren't outraged by her.

They won't even try to prove that God doesn't exist because they've convinced themselves that 'logic and reason' (lol) states that the burden of proof is on religion. How incredibly convenient.

That's the problem with choosing a side: eventually, someone is going to present you with a question or argument that you can't answer thus proving that you are completely full of shit, and then you have no choice but to hide behind something. Slander if you're a liberal, dogma if you're a conservative or religious, and contrived logic and reason if you're an atheist or scientist...every label has some nonsense to fall back on.

Dr. Mr. Superficial,
This post was fucking hilarious and smart all at once. I am eternally in awe.
Love,
Yo Girl

I used to think like a scientist (I am) in that homosexuality was an impossible genetic event, as in the fact that homo relations cannot reproduce. I have recently changed my belief in this matter.

Homosexuality is clearly a genetic trait, given to the human race by God's grace...

To eliminate genetic blood lines. There is no other explanation as to its re-occurrence.

@53: There's something called Burden of Proof, ever heard of it. It means we are not expected to disprove anything, it's up to you to prove it. It's not possible to disprove something. So, prove that God exists, and good luck.

Q: What's the difference between Carrie and a bowling ball?

A: You can only get three fingers into a bowling ball.

Haw! Come on, sparkle girl, are you gonna sue me too?

Just because you can't prove something doesn't mean it doesn't exist. That's like saying that the solar system revolved around the earth until someone proved that it's heliocentric. Why can't you see that your logic and reason is contrived and artificial and nothing but a fall-back for your unimaginably stupid way of thinking? This is why you people are laughed at.

Since you're in the business of separating real Christians from fake ones, let me follow suit: real scientists are agnostic about everything. Why aren't real scientists infuriated by Atheists?

After reading this rant by this website's writer I can conclude that I want to bang the dude who runs The Superficial. AND...I'm a girl. Bah and zing!

i hope they counter sue for her tits.

She should run for governor and win and drive all the fags and fag lovers into the Bay with shark chum, way to many child molester(MJ) lovers and turd burglars on this site. Carrie will win that lawsuit !

@ 57: That is absolutely correct, therefore, all people have "faith" in something. This crap about only Christians "not allowed to speak or have influence n the public square" but everyone else is ok is nonsense. If your argument doesn't hold up well in public debate, maybe you ought to rethink what you believe...

@ 64: you mean her saline bags?

Another X-tian hypocrite flapping her mouth and making a fool of herself. What a tool. Where's the big X-tian cross necklace?

Newsflash: Jesus told his followers they would see his return in their lifetime.

FAIL

The earth is not flat, the clouds are not dust from some guy-in-the-sky's feet, the stars are more than a few feet out of reach, snakes and other animals do not speak languages, Noah was a drunken preacher not a mastermind naval artichect, Lot was not really a just and righteous man for knocking up his daughters and claiming he was drunk, the earth was not set on a foundation with cornerstones it rotates on an axis, the sun does not revolve around the earth as the ridiculous bible claims.

It would take months to type out all the factual, historic and scientific errors in the bible. Fortunately the X-tian gawd only lives in the imaginations of the delusional knuckleheads who fall for the biggest hoax ever perpetrated.

And, NO, I will not be burning in the firepit of your violent fantasies for not believing your bible garbage.

Carrie, you ignorant slut...

When will you fucking retards realize that the First Amendment only applies to State restriction on free speech. A private company or a private person can tell you whatever the hell they want you to say, and if you don't say it, so be it. Read the freaking Constitution, you fucktards.

When will you fucking retards realize that the First Amendment only applies to State restriction on free speech. A private company or a private person can tell you whatever the hell they want you to say, and if you don't say it, so be it. Read the freaking Constitution, you fucktards.

"If somebody can prove to me he dosent exist via scientific facts, other then the hearsay you kids spew out, im all ears.
Again please try and prove to me that he dosent exist."

Logical fallacy - burden of proof fallacy

A universal negative cannot be proven, it is ridiculous and dishonest to request. Can you prove you weren't fucking your cocker spaniel again last night?

The burden of proof is upon the person(s) making the claim, dumbass.

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@57 very true. prolly the most sensible reply i have heard :)

@ 68: any fifth grader knows more than you do about the Bible & how to interpret it, you sound ridiculously hostile. Chill bro... you can believe you're from the goo, that's fine, but the goo is a leap of faith too- and I think you are an idiot to believe it. But I'm not angry or hostile you believe it- again, chill :-0

@59 - So you believe that there is a gay gene ? *triestobeattheloonsawaywithaflyswatter*
This completley contradicts anything a resonable person as you (a scientist) could state, since scientists have not found a gay gene.

Homosexuality is a complete learned social phenomenon.
I believe it has something to do with experiences as children, either not guided good enough or some trauma, or as simple as some boys like to wear dresses and girls like to play with cars, and they instantly get labeled as gay. Having too liberal parents or too strict. Somepeople whoever i dunno, they are so flamboyant that i really question my own theory, then again that might have to do with how they were raised.

62- You're really reaching, aren't you? Instead of proving your case for god, you're insulting people who aren't as gullible as you. That says a lot about your case (and your god). Christians are forever doing that....dancing around and sidestepping because they just don't have anything concrete to back up their superstition.

@60 - thats a little too convienient and a pretty lazy way to counterargue. Prove to me how love works then, since everybody believe in that.

DEEERRRRRRPPPYY DEERPY DERP-TEE DUM!!!

Hey, another kid died... from a ruptured appendix... due to his parents believing in faith healing. I wish all the Christians, Muslims, and every other Santa-lover had to go through that growing up. What a wonderful place the world would be without these people.

I do love the hypocrisy of Christians coming to thesuperficial.com. I bet you're all super cereal for Christ. Yes, traditional marriage is in shambles because two penises and and two vaginas are within close proximity to each other. It's not at all because you're cheating on your wife and giving Jesus and your children a reach around at the same time.

Then again, Frankentitties here didn't get sacked because of her stance - it was, like Fish and many others pointed out - because she was a pawn of a corporation and didn't do what they told her to. End of story.

@72 - I have proof and pic's of my entire activities last night. So ha!
Well your making the claim there isnt so prove me wrong. all im saying.
your swearing isnt helping you bring your point across lol

@ 80 - Dei tuk yer jubs

79, you're seriously comparing god to a chemical reaction in the brain!?!? Yep, I agree, religion is all in your head and you need help. Too funny, and closer to the truth than you probably even intended. Somebody call Dawkins and Hitchens, you've just done a year's worth of their work for them!

47 - So I take it to mean that you believe hand jobs, anal sex, masturbation, cunnilingus, fellatio, condoms, and wet dreams are morally wrong ? None of those things are straight up penis in vagina textbook scenarios.

In other words, your analogy fails. Sex has evolved beyond, shall we say, plain old 15th century procreation in missionary. What is natural is not always right and what is right is not always natural.

81 - Your use of "lol" and the fact that you believe in a glorified Santa Claus is reason enough to not take anything you ever say or ever have said in your entire life seriously. You're a tiny, irrelevant worker bee who can't seem to understand that the reason no one feels impressed with/sorry for you is because you've been living a slave's life for a queen bee that was never there to begin with. If you really want to learn about the atheist's side of the discussion and why we believe the way we do, asking people on the Superficial is not the place to begin. I would start with books by Richard Dawkins (other than being an atheist, he is an evolutionary biologist), Christopher Hitchens, and Sam Harris.

Unless of course, you're not at all serious about gathering the information you so desire and, instead, are just another useless troll.

And 82 - Dey did tuk mah jubs.

christianity is a copy-cat religion, everything copied from previous folklore, nothing original about it. virgin birth, sun god/sky god, crucifiction, resurrection, revelation and the failed prophecies all borrowed, copied or stolen from previous superstitions. even december 25th was stolen from the pagans. what a fake religion.

OK. Dude. If the idiots didn't want her to answer a question like that they shouldn't have let the homosexual gossip dude ask that question. How is this her fault? Duh? Like 50% of Americans don't agree will gay marriage. It doesn't matter if you agree with them. It just is.

95% of people in the world believe in GOD. I'm sure the 5% of you must be right. The funny part is that this isn't even about that. Who cares about her religion? She answered honestly to the question she was asked. What did she do wrong?

@83 - so love is just a chemical reaction... well i feel sorry for you that its just a chemical reaction for you... thats prolly why you have whiplash because of all the strawberry sundays and donkeypunches you recieve as love.
Yeah go call dawkins over that fucker is just the biggest ignorant tard ever. Just treat everybody as a reject versus listening to argument. really mature and scientific way of disproving something lol

Carrie Prejean is a stupid religious CUNT.

Riiiiiiiiiiight, god, you've got me all figured out. No need to feel sorry for me. The love part of my brain is working perfectly. Not sure what strawberry sundays and donkeypunches are, and don't think I want to know. Did they teach you those in Sunday School, or was that special one on one time with your preacher? And what argument am I not listening to? Haven't read a single thing that makes the likelihood of a skydaddy even the tiniest bit more possible. Still waiting for your earth-shattering evidence that will once and for all prove you're not completely deluded for believing in fairy tales...............

What newsflash @68 said. Also, what the fuck is the vacant twit going to write a book about?

"95% of people in the world believe in GOD."

argumentum ad numerum - even if 99.99% of the population believes something, their belief has no effect on whether it is a fact or not. You can't wish something into existence.

#81 "Well your making the claim there isnt so prove me wrong."

Your arguments are illogical. I'm not the one who made a claim, you are. You're obligated to provide verifiable evidence if you expect anyone to take you seriously. You are also dishonestly attempting to shift the burden of proof. If you were honest you'd simply admit you have faith, not evidence.

I wanna fuck her...in fact, let's ALL fuck her...we can have a HOLY CLUSTER FUCK in the name of JEEEEZUSSSS!

Now please turn your hymnals to page 232...

@ 85 - Oh Megan - it is people like you who scare me most. You generalize. I am not religious in any way. Just because you have one or two years of college behind you and you came across some douche who denounces everything humanity ever cameup with, developed, shaped how we interact with eachother, dosent make you smarter or more aware then anybody. Its people like you who think they are smarter then others, are the real threat, because you fail one essential skill that you so overwhemlingly like to spread, and that the skill of being unbiasedly openminded. You criticise religion I am simply asking for an explanation, proof to a claim that people like you feel so self rightous about throwing around and demeaning others for not agreeing with you.
Since you know about dawkins and co i suggest you expand your college mind and try and research rene gateaux, john von neumann, joseph saurin, francesco severi, e.t. whittaker, st. augustine, some of the greatest physcists / mathematicians and logicians there ever was that converted to a faith.

@91 - I apologize ms.whiplash, i lived in the moment and thought it would add a little humor. If you are really interested in finding proof that god exists.
Please read the works of the following people:
rene gateaux, John von Neumann, joseph saurin, francesco severi, e.t. whittaker, st. augustine, st. thomas aquinas, st. anselm.
Those people are some of the brightest physcists / mathematicians and logicians that ever graced this planet. Every single one of those spent more time trying to dissprove Catholisim then Richard Dawkins did or ever will.
All of them ending up convert from atheisim to catholisism.
That is why i ask atheists such as yourself for proof that god dosent exist, since people who created / invented rules / discovered scientific formulas and theories our current lives evolve around couldnt come up with.
From one atheist to antoher.

@93 - How is my argument illogical ? I have more rethoric / calculation / theroy's trying to disprove god without success then there is actual valid comprehensive proof that unproves god. Now with that i ask you what makes you believe that there isnt a god when the greatest minds in our history spent most of their lives trying to disprove god and then convert to a religion ? Does that make you curious when greater minds then oneself in the end switch sides and believe in something they spent their whole life trying to disprove ? Thats what im really asking, if you dont believe there is a god just because you think there isnt. kewl by me, just thought u had additional information.

I didn't know I was on perez homo hilton.com. We all know she lost because of the way she answered the homo judge. She should have won the contest.

96- What I don't understand is, if there is an allmighty whatever, why doesn't it reveal itself? Should be easy for an all-powerful being, no? Please don't say that it's a "test of faith" or "look around at nature" because I don't like to play games like that, too much of a cop-out. I would never be able to respect a god who demanded/rewarded credulity and robotic servitude. I'll live my life with the expectation that it's my only one (which in my opinion makes it all the more worthwhile). Anyway, thanks for starting all this fun and games with your comment way back at # 53. It's been pretty GODDAMN entertaining!

#97 "How is my argument illogical ?"

In the most basic ways, you request that others prove a negative, or prove you wrong. You don't get to go around making wild fantastic bizarre claims and exclaim they're true unless proven otherwise. It's ridiculous; you have it back asswards. Imagine the legal system based on your illogical brain short circuitry, anyone could make any claim they wanted to and you'd be expected to prove your innocence. Anyone could claim you owed them money and you couldn't prove otherwise. Again, the burden of proof is upon the person(s) making the positive assertions.

Your "argument" failed to launch.

Literature and classroom training is available to assist you with discovering logical and critical thinking.

I'm essentially being called a retard by a person who 1) uses "lol," "kewl," and "u," 2) can't differentiate between "then" and "than," 3) let's face it, can't spell OR get a single point across for shit, and 4) uses every anti-atheist/agnostic faux-argument in the book. Congratulations, Internet: you are the single best and worst creation of all time. The amount of knowledge you hold is irrefutably indispensable, and the amount of retards who flock to your shelter of near-anonymity -- those who also vehemently avoid said knowledge at all costs -- is almost more plentiful.

"I have more rethoric / calculation / theroy's trying to disprove god without success then there is actual valid comprehensive proof that unproves god."

There is no obligation, for anyone, anywhere to disprove a claim. The claimant is obligated to provide the evidence and proof supportive of their claim.

The purpose of science is to discover, analyse and document evidence for education and research. There is no reason to disprove the existence of supernatural beings. So far, no evidence has ever been discovered that supports the existence supernatural sky buddies.

Scientific theory requires very high levels of verifiability and replicability before it is presented for peer review and accepted as scientific theory.

On the other hand, religions make fantastical and bizzarre claims yet provide not a shred of evidence in support of them, free pass at being dishonest.

Dear conservative fuckwits, please read the post, and the links. She has a right to her opinion, and I did give her some respect for sticking to her convictions for that brief moment when poopoo asked her for that opinion. However, when she immediately turns around and capitalizes on her sudden "celebrity" to promote her opinion she loses all respect, and her job.

tl,dr version: in America you can have an opinion, and you can get fired from your job when you stop doing said job.

"Does that make you curious when greater minds then oneself in the end switch sides and believe in something they spent their whole life trying to disprove ?"

Another logical fallacy, the number of believers and/or intelligence and/or nember of credentials of the believer does nothing to support your case since no evidence is available to support your claim. Further, they held their beliefs prior to you, so are you believing it simply because they do and again with no supporting evidence?

ad populum and appeal to belief are logical fallacies, so again your argument has no merit.

And last but not least, if you insist on having something disproven you must define that something. Good luck with that. From the looks of your reason, logic and critical thinking thus far, it's safe to say that you are incapable of defining your god so you're back to the proverbial drawing board with not a shred of evidence in your behalf.

I don't have to prove you wrong; you're quite capable of doing that yourself.

@101 - case in point (English is my 4th out of 6 languages)
your cynicism is entertaining however.

@ BassPro - Semantics my friend, you need to learn how to let go. Read again and hopefully you will comprehend :)

Are those definitely photos of Carrie Prejean. Those look like pictures of Gretchen Rossi of The Real Housewives of Orange County.

106 God -

I'm sure English is one out of the many languages you supposedly know. I'll humor you and pretend this is the case, even though I'm quite sure it isn't. The thing is, why would you mix up "then" and "than" if you learned English from a different language? Those two words are one letter away from being the other, but that is only in English. Certain other languages would have completely different words for "then" and "than" which wouldn't look similar to each other in the least. You would really have to go out of your way to mix them up when translating to English from a different language. For example, in German the word "then" is "denn" and "than" is most often "als." If your first language was German, you wouldn't mix up then and than since they are conveying completely different things and are not spelled almost alike.

TL;DR version: nice try at bullshitting.

Sleepy times for me now.

She was attacked because they didn't like her answer to a question that really had no relation to the pajeant. And now you peolpe are doing the same thing. You don't like her because of an opinion you disagree with. Freedom of speech doesn't seem to matter to you. At least when it goes against something you support. I've met people who disagreed with her answer but still found it unfair that she was attacked non stop because of it. And here you people are leaving comments about how you want her to be mutilated, beaten, and die! Good God what's wrong with you people. I wouldn't say these things about my worst enemy. Hell, even if I was thinking it I would't say it out of politness. All she stated (and quite respectfully I might add) was that she personally supported one kind and not the other. The very next day she was called a 'Cunt' among other horrid things by that fat, ugly waste of flesh Perez Hilton. It has gotten to the point in America where you can't state an opinion anymore for fear of something like this happening. And it's people like you make these things worse. You'll hate me for saying this but - Grow Up.
(And it has already been proven that she did do all the things she was contracted to do).

I think the one thing we can all agree on regardless of our beliefs is that we would like to take a baseball bat to Perez Hilton's stupid pumpkin head. That guy is human garbage.

"And shepherds we shall be, for Thee, my Lord, for Thee.
Power hath descended forth from Thy hand, that our feet may swiftly carry out Thy command.
So we shall flow a river forth to Thee, and teeming with souls shall it ever be,
In Nomine Patris, Et Fili, Et Spiritus Sancti."

Man, she's got the eye bags AND the under eye circles! Double whammy.

Perez Hilton and Carrie Prejean are both wrongly using their beliefs to get publicity. I do not know much about all of this nonsense, but from what I have seen it does not even matter. There was no reason for Perez Hilton to be a judge in the first place. There is no reason to wish harm on this girl just because she wants fame, many people have done worse to get it. I also disagree with the observer about how a certain group "hides" behind just one thing, for the most part one person (or some) in a group will make an argument and others of that group will jump behind them, without having an argument of their own. Every single labeled group slanders, but it is only people in a group that do, those people need to grow up and fight someone's argument, not the person.

A lot of these comments are just silly, this isn't the site for this talk, let's all comment on her boobs instead. Or how ugly her hat is.

The white hat is very beautiful.

The white hat reminds me of toilet paper.

Are people actually forgetting the timeline of events here? She lost the pageant partially because she wasn't as marketable due to her views (which is the whole point of the pageant) and partially because the winning contestant WAS. That's the way it is, sucks to be her, but that's the nature of the pageant.

She lost her position as Miss California because she was a weapons-grade douche bottle, failing to show up for scheduled events, trying to schedule events without the approval of the MCO, and for arguing with her handlers every step of the way. As an employee, her failure to execute her job led them to cut her loose. If you don't do your job, you get fired; that's how it works in the real world, that's how it worked here.

Would that be a bad PR move if they ask for the implants back? I have to check my ethic books on this one. I think its perfectly fine...

Megan, you are the best.

honestly, i do believe the pageant set her up. what really in the end does it matter what one person over another thinks of gay marriage? and if they weren't prepared for BOTH sides of the coin, they never should have asked the question to begin with. they knew what her beliefs were ahead of time, and yet still chose to crucify her with that question. Why does the whole world have to fight any one particular group's battles? if gays want the right to marry, let them fight for it. They shouldn't expect everyone else to say 'oh yeah, certainly! I agree with it', because not everyone does. As a conservative christian, i can say this however, the bible is very clear that we are supposed to treat EVERYONE with love and compassion, that we aren't to judge, lest we be judged. it also says in part and is very clear in John 3.16 that WHOEVER believes in Christ will not perish, not just a certain select few, but WHOEVER, and that to me would include gays. I truly do not believe that the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah were about homosexuality, but rather HOW PEOPLE TREAT ONE ANOTHER. sexual sin is sexual sin whether you are gay or straight, and no one has a right to judge another one way or another...

sorry for the bible lesson, I just wanted to put that out there for both sides

@7: you can't call a judge a 'faggot' and then say you're 'ok with gay people' in the same post. that's called hypocrisy. enjoy being a bigot :)

Dude, I love you....PREACH ON!!!

Okay that's enough! You know I am opposed to same sex marriage as well but I will definitely not go and defend someone like her. C'mon, some of you dare to come here and put the bible into that?
Mmmmmm, there is a lot of fake Christians here I guess. Are we that desperate to have people who are oppose to same sex marriage to accept any stupid comments and then go defend them to make a case out of it? SHE IS JUST TRYING TO GET HER 15 MINUTES OF FAME. She wasn't fired because of her comment, she was fired because she could not even fulfill her contract. They gave her a chance; they even gave her a chance when her naked pics came on internet and usually, the committee DOES NOT give a chance like that. She got privileges than no other have gotten. Am I the only one who see that? Gee, next time a lot of you will come here and defend Spencer Pratt and Heidi Montag because they say they are Christians and they love God but do not act like Christians at all?You can call me a fake Christian as much as you want but I will in no way defend her in this situation. She couldn't do the job so they got someone who wanted to do it.

I'd fuck her christian ass. I wouldn't be surprised if this whole damn thing was planned down to the latest b.s. Miss America popularity has been fading and this just keeps it in the news longer.

The US citizens are amateurs in terms of religious confIict. love the heated comments about Christians, so much turmoil. At least in this country we all get to express our views & have freedom, not so much for the poor Afgannie voter last week who unfortunately had part of his nose & both ears sliced off by Taliban, just for voting. What a great religion! Why don't you hate that?

This person (along with many of you posters and Heidi and Spencer) is everything that's wrong with America. DEFENDING her bigoted "Christian" ass and pretending like she's not completely loony is just idiotic.

I really don't understand the invective directed at this woman. She was asked an irrelevant question by some freak who sucks mens dicks and gets fucked up his own ass. She didn't bring it up, the freak did.

Who cares about her nipple pictures? What in the FUCK does that have to do with anything? Are all of these haters out there really trying to say that because she has flaws she can't stand for traditional values?

How is she a "cunt" and Joy Behar isn't? She seems like a good woman to me. She's hot, has brains, courage, breasts and she knows the fundamental truths about sex. Let me break it down for the faggots: women get dicks in them, men don't. See how simple that is?

ah, fighting over religion and beliefs. the never-ending war.

hollywood_hillbilly

Why does using her celebrity to promote her views cause you to lose respect for her? Did you lose respect for Ashley Judd when she marched her scrawny ass in a parade with a "This is What a Feminist Looks LIke" shirt? Do you lose respect for Robert Redford, Tim Robbins, Barabara Streisand and the countless single-helix retards in Hollywood who use their fame to promote things they could never understand? Many of them barely finish high school before taking a couple night classes at a community college but they feel they can call George Bush an idiot. Imagine that! An actor calling someone stupid.

One important thing about getting your view promoted is that people have to hear about you.

I totally agree with her. Christians are the most oppressed group in America ever. It's about time someone with fake titties finally took a stand to the secret rulers of the world (the gays). I'm not fooled at all by this god bullshit she's trying to say is the cause for all this. She answered like a retard...sorry, I mean opposite brained person, and now she latched on to this religious bashing plot so no one remembers that she's an empty headed broad who signed up for the pretty parade to show off her fake tits in a bikini.

Randall -

What's wrong with fake tities? Is there some bible verse no one has ever heard of that says "Thou shalt not implant bags in thy flat chest"?

She didn't latch on to religious bashing. Lefty journalists who reviewed the pageant said that she lost because of how she answered a question from a scrotum sucker. She was in the lead until the shit-eater asked her an off-topic question.

Christians are the main oppressed group in this country. I think that is largely because their beliefs call for them to tolerate insult. They usually let it pass with the same ease Perez Hilton takes a fist up his ass.

I crack up at the potheads, pole dancers, and assorted unshowered losers who all think they are "too smart" to believe in the existence of God.

I bet Ted Kennedy's sorry ass believes.

I agree with Prejean. As a fellow Christian I know we are all discriminated against all the time. It's not like Christians have been making the rules in this country since it's founding or anything. Oh wait, it's totally like that and maybe she should stfu.

What's with the gay bashing, borderline-retarded republicans trolling on a celebrity gossip site? How shocking to find out that their role models are also homophobic, borderline-retarded republicans. Way to go, scumbags, you're really making it easier for people to vote democrat these days. Keep on tootin' your crazy horn and lying down with swine; more and more people will edge away from you for being the dirty and shrill losers that you are.

therush

Do you think at all about what you're going to write or do you just post something quickly that you think sounds meaningful? I have no idea at all what in the hell you were driving at. Christians have been making the rules so now Carrie Prejean should stfu? What possible sense could that make?

What is you major in college? Something that ends in "studies"?

It's funny the number of supposed feminists and open-minded men (not open-coloned, like Perez HIlton) who will tolerate Ms. Prejean being called "bitch", "whore", "cunt", etc. Where are defenders of women? Why isn't Pamela Anderson any of those things? She has even bigger bags and has never said anything which makes sense. Difference is, she doesn't claim to stand for anything. Once you take a stand (not a head stand, like Perez Hilton getting gang ass-fucked) for something decent, you're a target.

Maybe if the stinkin pita pocket who posted "God is Imaginary" can say it often enough to convince herself.

To all the idiots who think she got fired solely for her answer in the pageant, my recollection is that the Donald and the organization stood by her after that. It wasn't until she went on show after show flapping her lips about it and injecting herself further into the politics of it that they got irked and finally pulled the plug.

Arline

Try as I might, I just can't understand postings by lefties.

I wasn't gay-bashing. I was faggot-bashing. I'm not homophobic because I don't have an irrational fear of faggots. I find their behavior nauseating (like eating dog shit off the sidewalk) but I'm not afraid of them. Isn't it funny how you assume (rightly in this case) that a person who opposes grossly immoral behavior is a Republican?

By lying down with swine, do you mean visiting this site? I like this site because of the pictures (South Park Republican) and the writer's comments. I usually find him funny. I don't understand why Christians draw so much fire is the only reason I responded. Her voicing an opinion is "hate" but others wishing her dead and calling her vile names isn't?

Robert:

I'm sure that the gays would find your mode of sexual congress "nauseating" as well. It's not up to you folks to judge other people's behavior and impose your dogma all over the place, but you do it anyway, probably because deep down you are dissatisfied with yourself and your life. Guess what, Roberto? Jesus didn't spend his life calling gays "faggots" and defending morons who can't do their jobs. He preached a lot about love for your fellow man, and helped the poor and the sick. What the fuck have you done in your life that can be called "humanist"? Your beliefs are like dogshit on the sidewalk; disgusting, irresponsible and transient. Instead of playing a victim and working your hardest to be a divisive asshole who throws up his hands and cries "I'll never understand lefties!", maybe you should go out and volunteer at a fucking hospital or soup kitchen and work on your fucking compassion skills. Be a fucking human. Fuck.

Now I remember why I stopped looking at this site. Too many brain dead liberals. And yes, I know that's being redundant.

Arline -

You judge other's behavior. Isn't calling Carrie a "moron" a judgement? If I call Perez Hilton something good, wouldn't that be a judgement? Is calling me an "asshole" a judgement. Who deserves to be called names? Mean people? You won't find anyone meaner than Perez Hilton.

Jesus didn't have to spend his life calling people faggots. That's my job. It's on my business card. He did call people to repent of their faggotry (as I understand it) and whatever else they were up to. As for my beliefs, it isn't my standard you have a problem with, it is God's. (as I understand it - don't claim to be any bible scholar).

I should volunteer at a hospital so that I will agree that men can suck each other's dicks if they wish? What sense does that make? My beliefs are "transient"? What the hell are you talking about? What have I done that would be considered "humanist"? Nothing! Do you even know what these words are? You have got to be a college student.

I don't understand lefties because there is nothing to understand. It isn't about undestanding, It's about believing. It is just a collection of random hogwash that you accept in total. You don't think about it, just believe it. Kind of like the koran.

"Fuck, fuck, fuck" What a well-reasoned and compelling argument. Why not call me a poop-head and stick your tongue out?

I think it's fair to single out morons for being morons. I think there is enough evidence to suggest that Carrie is, indeed, a moron.

Jesus did not call people to repent for being homosexual. Find me that passage. I'm not religious, but that's what you people use to justify your crap and you call yourselves Christians, so go 'head. I love how you people claim to know the will of "God" because of what some guys wrote over 2 millennia ago, which borrowed heavily from other religions. You just use religion to justify your wrong-headed and false sense of superiority. It' sad.

Yes, I know what words mean, do you? You're an asshole because you hate gays. It's ignorant, and indicative of a great deal of personal insecurity on your part. Maybe if you did something for others, selflessly, you'd be less of an asshole. But you won't, cause that to you would be "crazy" and "liberal", cause being an asshole republican means never having to justify your useless existence.

"You don't think about it, just believe it. Kind of like the koran." You're anti-Muslim, too? What a fucking shocker. You don't know what you believe, you just have a bunch of random assumptions and stereotypes built up in your brain, not based on real-world experience, but probably on some shit you saw on Fox or heard on Rush and just bought without thinking about it for a second. You're a fucking coward, ignorant, bigoted, homophobic and you don't have a clear argument in your head because you're full of hate. Hating gays just feels right to you. Being angry at Muslims is something just instilled in you. You're a typical wooly-headed Republican without an original thought in your head, and it is easier for you to say I use big words or say "fuck" a lot, therefor I must be part of some big liberal conspiracy against you. More victim shit. I'm done commenting, since you don't seem to have anything of substance to say. There's still time to turn your life around and stop being such a fucking asshole. Just sayin'.

Robert-

I think we can all agree everyone loves fake titties, and whoever disagrees is a communist.

My point was that this whole situation is retarded. we're being given moral lessons from someone in a "look at me in a bikini, ain't I pretty" contest. Again, Don't get me wrong I'd bang every contestant six ways to sunday, but does anybody really give a shit what they have to say. let's be honest, this whole contest is family friendly stroke material. Also, the reason this first got attention was that she answered the question like a retard. She called it opposite marriage for shits sake. Like that other beauty pageant retard miss north Carolina, I think.

#139 - It is just a collection of random hogwash that you accept in total. You don't think about it, just believe it. Kind of like the koran.

Many people say this (or something like it) about beliefs they do not agree with. It's a pretty ignorant statement, for anyone of any belief to make.

#140 - you just have a bunch of random assumptions and stereotypes built up in your brain ... You're a typical wooly-headed Republican without an original thought in your head

If you're going to make stereotypical assumptions you probably should not mention it as a character flaw of the person you are talking about two sentences before.

On a note that actually belongs on this site: So did they put those implants in through the armpit? Cause she's got some weird little rolls/wrinkles going on.

Arline -

Wow. One thing I'll say for lefties is that they know how to hate. Good for you.

Read Romans 1:27 -32 which says talks about men "leaving the natural use of a woman" (hahaha) burn with lust towards each other and that "they which practice such things are worthy of death". Not my words. Go look it up like you said. Then find a way to explain it away.

It's funny how you hate Christianity so much but you think muslims are just cool. Typical coward. My hatred of islam WAS instilled in my. Mostly from watching and reading the news. You know, Iranian Hostages, WTC (1993 and 2001), Kobar Towers, USS Cole, on and on. Lefties watch the news and see nothing but a government plot. Amazing. Watching muslims slaughter the innocent doesn't make you angry but me saying that two men shouldn't marry makes you go through the roof. It just tells me what your values are. And that you are the coward, not me. It takes no balls to attack someone who won't attack you back. That's why only cowards attacked George Bush. But no liberal says jack about muslims.

You're right about me being full of hate, though. But that doesn't mean I don't have a clear argument. I think you can both I absolutely hate liberals with everything I can muster. When I talk with one it takes all the strength I have not to beat them within an inch of their miserable lives for the damage they have done to the greatest nation in all of recorded history. They don't know what freedom is (they think its random whoring around and doing drugs), they don't take any responsiblity for themselves (they want the government to do that - it's their right) and they attack the very people and traditions that have given them what they take for granted.

As for the rest of your post, it just sort of rambles. Blah, blah, blah fuck, blah, blah, blah wooly-headed, etc.

142 Sar -

Is the koran science? No. Did it get proven in a lab? No. You just believe it. Like the bible, like the bhagavad gita, like whatever. You believe it. Like the koran.

Ugh, I'm for gay marriage and even I don't think people who are against it are biggoted (although there are always people who just hate people that are different). Christ, perhaps readers of the opposite persuasion would be more willing to accept different points of views if they weren't consistently called bigots (or racists) everytime they disagree with your point of view, jackass.

I think Carrie Prejean is an idiot, but your analysis of her is so tainted by your warped ideology. The burden you must carry on your shoulders for always being right... Get off of your high horse, or else you're a bigot. And racist!

Lynn -

Why exactly is Carrie Prejean an idiot? Most Americans, given the chance to vote, have opposed gay marriage. Every known civilization, religious or otherwise, has held to heterosexual marriage. Every major religion opposes gay marriage. A great many gays oppose gay marriage. She didn't say people shouldn't be gay. She simply said what most people on earth believe: marriage is between a man and a woman.

What EXACTLY makes her an idiot?

#144 - I just said it was a belief. But if you are stating this from a "there is no proof so it is hogwash" standpoint, then I apologize, it came across that it was hogwash from your religious standpoint.

Do you hate innocent Muslims as well? Those that do not agree with the fanatics and outright crazy people who attack innocent people?

Robert is right, what exactly does make her an idiot? I have not heard much about her other than her answer to a loaded question, so would really like to know.

You use Romans to justify your homophobia? Romans is basically a spewing of the Old Testament in the New Testament, so excellent work there, Christian, for showing you don't know what the fuck you're talking about ever.

I don't hate Christians, dumbass. I don't even hate you. Hate is an extreme word which I reserve for people or things that really matter. Some of my best friends are religious, but it's not an issue. I even have republican friends. I refer to specific assholes like you who identify as republican and use religion to justify your hate (or to fuel your political campaigns). You put yourself on a stupid platform and say that because you're [this], you win, and everyone who is [that] is wrong. No basis in fact or logic.

"It takes no balls to attack someone who won't attack you back." How would you even know what takes balls? Did your anonymous internet comments cause Islamofascists to blow up your house, tough guy? If you think this nation is "ruined" because of liberals, you're living in a fucking self-pitying, whiny fantasy land.

Yes, freedom is whoring around and doing drugs, obvs. Good point. That's why all of your republican heroes have been making the news recently for their 1.whoring around 2.drug use and 3.refusal to take responsibility for their whoring around, drug use, torture programs, etc. But I guess you don't watch the news. Or read books. Or if you do, you filter out the facts that don't conform to your world view.

It ain't limited to liberals, you shithead. PEOPLE can whore around, do drugs, do shitty things. Individuals can be shitty, that doesn't make everyone who identifies with one trait of something (race, religion, sexual orientation) shitty. There are so many possible reasons not to get along with people, and you're picking nits about some shallow bullshit based on your own insecurities.

#147

I don't think very highly of islam. It has been used to to justify virtually every terrorist attack in the second half of the 20th century. The list of muslim terrorism, from skyjackings in the early 70's till now would fill volumes. In response, people point to TIm McVeigh (who had muslim sympathies and was not a Christian) and a single abortion clinic bomber - also not a Christian. Also, the abortion bomber's actions was denounced by every major Christian leader in America. Whereas muslim terrorists are given a hero's welcome. 25% of muslims in the UK think terror bombings are fine. 75% of muslims in some muslim countries think terror bombings are ok.

The acts of terrorism are condoned, not condemned, by leaders of major schools of islam. I can say that muslims who are not a threat to the safety of the free world are not serious about their faith. When they get serious, they pick up a gun.

Their treatment of women is beyond despicable. I hate homosexuality but I think it is utterly disgusting that someone would construct a brick wall and push it over on someone to crush them to death for the "crime" of homosexuality. Dick-sucking by men isn't a crime, it is just gross. They need counseling, not the death penalty. All of this is justified by muslim leaders.

I think islam is a hateful political movement disguised as a religion.

Arline

Excuse me? A spewing of the Old Testament? Even if that were true, what difference does that make? The Old Testament just gets shredded now?

What the hell is homophobia? I don't know anyone who has an irrational fear of homosexuals. If I don't like something then I am afraid of it? Then I am also a suicide-phobe, out-out-work-phobe, etc.

I DIDN'T EVEN SAY I WAS A CHRISTIAN YOU UN-BELIEVABLY STUPID FUCK!!! I LOOKED SOMETHING UP ON THE INTERNET BECAUSE YOU ASKED ME TO.

Did something cause muslims to blow up my house?!? What the hell does that mean? No one blew up my house. What the fuck are you smoking?

Republicans are making the news (like dems) for acting like liberals. Cheating on your wife is a liberal value. Ask Ted Kennedy. Taking bribes is a liberal value. Ask Bill Jefferson. I didn't say it was limited to liberals. I said that those are liberal values.

When did I say that because I am (this) that I am right and all others are wrong? Do you just make this stuff up? This is like arguing with an 8 year old.

It is amazing that someone can reach your age and not be able to put together a cohesive argument. The failure of the schools and your parents, no doubt.

robert takes a wide stance, just like Larry Craig. Self hating homophobia, now that is a republican value.

Robert -
I agree that their punishments are disgusting practices, especially in this day and age. Why they have not evolved out of this is beyond me, as other religions have already done so (for the most part).

Although I don't think being serious about about their faith means killing, it's more about interpretation. As with the greater and lesser Jihad. Perhaps there is someone reading that can get more in-depth about this? I do not know everything and will not pretend to.

I don't think there is anything wrong with being homosexual myself. But anyone who goes out of their way (homo or hetero) to prove their sexuality, or whatever they're trying to do, really should cut it out, shoving your business in other people's faces should not be expected to have no comment on it.

Arline -
You made a good point about people, not entire groups, doing these things. Other than that you just come off as childish and rude, it doesn't matter what your viewpoint is, if you can't do anything but jump to insults and the like people will not want to listen to what you have to say.

robert, in response to your earlier post, I gave her respect for having an opinion and sticking to it. I took back that respect when she pretty much instantly started trying to capitalize on it, doing it for money made it seem cheap.
Also, I don't know Robert Redford or Barbra Streisand, but I have met Tim Robbins a few times and he is an intelligent guy. Not sure why you think actors are stupid as a rule, just like everyone else, some are and some aren't. Also, Redford, Robbins and Streisand did not gain their fame by being controversial, they did it by making movies that millions of people wanted to see. Prejean would have been an also ran if she had not seized the opportunity to cash in her beliefs.

I do agree with you somewhat about Perez, but not because he is gay, but rather because he capitalizes on controversy that he himself creates.

Homophobia does not mean being afraid of gay people, it means being afraid that you are gay. Like say someone who constantly brings up how much he is disgusted by gays, then constantly references various sexual acts being performed by gays. Methinks thou dost protest too much.

It's amazing how many of this bimbo's followers just don't know the actual situation. She was NOT fired for her stance on gay marriage. She WAS fired because she didn't uphold the terms of her contract. Basically, the Miss California USA organization has the contractual right to tell her what groups she can speak to and which ones she cannot during her reign. She missed the scheduled appointments which was basically her ONLY JOB during this time. Of course she got fired. Anyone who refuses to do their job deserves that.

She should sue the media but just as she skipped the Donald except One of them.

I don't know if this lawsuit is good for her book sales.Religion and being a beauty queen isn't relevant as well.

@TheSuperficial writer: That's still discrimination. You manage pick sides in most arguments wisely, but you're basically being a proponent of corporate fascism. You're saying companies should have control of the free speech over their employees. It doesn't matter what her title was, because it was her title. She wasn't speaking for a company--one which has no statement of its beliefs anyway--she was fulfilling her duty in being honest. Learn to respect other people's beliefs.

#154

Why is capitalizing on fame a bad thing? Suddenly she is in the spotlight and she has the opportunity to make money. Only an idiot would not make the moves. Come one. If someone offered you a chance to be on television and get some money from a statement you made, you'd do it.

They only people who are afraid they're gay actually are gay. They try, often for years, to deny it and then they finally give into it.

There are some brilliant lefties. Being on the left is not about intelligence. It is about values and your view of the world. Robbins might be intelligent. I always thought George Carlin was intelligent. Obama and Clinton are very intelligent. It is their values which are all screwed up.

As for the graphic references to things fittin in Perez's orifices, that is merely for shock value since most Americans are so desensitized to the horror that is homosexuality. I don't constantly bring up gayness. I read this site every day and only comment when Christians are attacked. I can't, for the life of me, see why Christians are so hated.

Good example. When being interviewed about Hurricane Katrina, dumbfuclk actor Bradley Whitford asked "Where's the Christianity?" What that horse's ass didn't know is that most of the rebuilding volunteers were Christians (and college students).

#155

I guess this could go on all day. Why is she a bimbo? Was everyone in the contest a bimbo or just someone who opposes gay marriage like Obama does?

She should think again about this lawsuit because it can cost her tons of money.Don't rely too much on the advice of your lawyer since they make a living out of this.

All this religion bashing is stupid. For every argument you can make that one religion is horrible you can pretty much make the same argument for every other one.

Muslims-planned 9/11
Christianity- planned The Crusades, genocide of the Native Americans,
Catholicism-planned the Spanish inquisition
Judaism-planned the takeover of Hollywood/the worlds banks


Muslims-Bin Laden
Christianity-Charles Manson was the Messiah
Catholicism-Hitler(yes, he was raised Catholic) and every boy touching priest
Mormons-Ted Bundy
Judaism-Gilbert Gottfried

Muslims-believe they get 72 Virgins if they blow themselves up
Christianity-God got a married virgin pregnant who never had sex with her husband ever.
Mormons-Magical Underpants
Judaism-those funny sideburns, whats the deal with that.
Hinduism-eight armed elephant god


My point is it's pretty arrogant to think you have the one right religion and everybody else is subject to ridicule...except for for my new religion I'm starting up. We're called the branch Alexian, we worship the all mighty Chimpanzee riding on a Segway. All Hail the Mighty Chimpy

Alex -

Believe/don't believe whatever you want. My father-in-law used to say that when all the smoke clears, we'll know who was right and who was wrong.

You're another one who, I guess, is too smart to beileve in anything except masturbation and beer. Good luck with your new religion. I hope you can swim while you're on fire, because it's probably in your future.

Robert-

I'll be too busy being drunk and jacking off to swim. Also, we don't believe in hell. In my wonderful new religion(that's better than all the rest and I mock everyone who doesn't believe) we believe that if your an awful sinner you spend eternity drinking O'Doul's and wearing baseball gloves on both hands so you can't beat off while sexy ladies dance inches away from you. On the other hand, if you live a righteous life, you are rewarded with not but the finest ice cold beers from around the world and sexy ladies who give hand jobs anytime you want. Robert, we also practice tolerance and acceptance in my new super sweet religion, and The All Mighty Chimpy would like to extend is furry paw to you. Come join us in our weekly Circle Jerk Kegger.

I would like to point out that absolutely NONE of the self righteous "hypocrite" so called religious people on this site even tried to argue the facts or even know what Prejean herself is suing for. They just attack Perez hilton who is not even being sued and homosexuals who again have nothing to do with the lawsuit itself. - so please stop pretending to be religious and continue to look at the bikini and half naked posts of Fish.

To all the idiots complaining about her getting axed for being worthless, prejudiced skank during the pageant - from what I recall, the pageant and the Donald stood behind her when she was first ridiculed for her ignorant ideas. It wasn't until she kept throwing herself into the bigot-mix and they found nudie pics of her that she was de-throned. To recap, it was NOT because she was an ignorant, homophobic bigot. It was because she posed for some racy photos that violated the pageant's rules. I'm pretty sure you can look it up on here of all places if you feel the need to rectify your own ignorance, but I doubt that'll happen any time soon.

To all the idiots complaining about her getting axed for being worthless, prejudiced skank during the pageant - from what I recall, the pageant and the Donald stood behind her when she was first ridiculed for her ignorant ideas. It wasn't until she kept throwing herself into the bigot-mix and they found nudie pics of her that she was de-throned. To recap, it was NOT because she was an ignorant, homophobic bigot. It was because she posed for some racy photos that violated the pageant's rules. I'm pretty sure you can look it up on here of all places if you feel the need to rectify your own ignorance, but I doubt that'll happen any time soon.

Actually, it wasn't because of the photos, Trump publically forgave her for that. It was because of one simple reason, she didn't live up to the terms of her contract. It has nothing to do with "freedom of speech". It is simple contract law. The government cannot restrict your freedom of speech. But there is no law that says that a corporation cannot fire you if you don't live up to the terms of your contract with them. And, she didn't.

Being The Donald, he probably had it written in the contract he could point a finger at you and go "YOU'RE FIRED!" if he just felt like it.

Hey Robert, the tide is slowly turning and the number of atheists around the world is slowly but steadily increasing. One day, hopefully in my lifetime, religion will be of no importance and the bible will no longer an excuse to justify your bigotry and ass-backwards notions about other people's morals. Christianity is just one of the religions that are no longer relevant in this day and age. Let it go, man.

@ 169

I b praY 4 u. u lil mistooken gurl... =(

Save your prayers #169, I don't want or need them. Better yet, use them to help better the world, because your god doesn't seem to be answering his phone. Oh, what? That's right. Your all-powerful and benevolent father can't or won't do a damn thing. Must suck for you.

#154 You hit the nail right on the head...too bad all the gays can't get it through his head that the President Obama feels the same way Carrie does!! I dare you to write an email to OBAMA and complain about his views and how you dis agree with him!! The cowards on this site are amazing...they talk alot about people over the internet, but NEVER in person like Carrie did. She has the balls that all of you lack. I love her new Mercedes!! Soon she'll have a home on the water in LA JOLLA - all thanks to Perez "MARIO" Lavendeira!!!

This prick set back your gay movement twenty years!!!

#154 You hit the nail right on the head...too bad all the gays can't get it through his head that the President Obama feels the same way Carrie does!! I dare you to write an email to OBAMA and complain about his views and how you dis agree with him!! The cowards on this site are amazing...they talk alot about people over the internet, but NEVER in person like Carrie did. She has the balls that all of you lack. I love her new Mercedes!! Soon she'll have a home on the water in LA JOLLA - all thanks to Perez "MARIO" Lavendeira!!!

This prick set back your gay movement twenty years!!!

I love Carrie Prejean. I hate gays. Period. I'm happy that they are all so miserable. I'm happy that she is happily going to the bank with all the money that the gays allowed her to get!!
I love the fact that she's out traveling in her new Mercedes Benz and kissing a gorgeous hunk that also makes millions with the NFL.

Everytime someone bashes her on this site...she gets paid!!! HA HA HA

Didn't know that - did you idiots???

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