Jul 6 2009Sarah Palin quit her job

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You can go fuck yourself with comments like that. She'd have you skinned and quartered before you knew anything was wrong.... heh, heh..... and I like that thought.....

Apparantly the fucking idiot thougt for a second that she was the one dictating her moves on Brzinski's chessboard?
The Republican party is dead and the dems are morons as well. Renounce both parties and let's come up with a brand new one. NO POLITICIANS. Only people nominated by the people for the people!

Would be better if that was the Union Jack, and, Kelly Brook. American political and porn whore(s)!

She's a stupid fucking cunt.....her 15 minutes are up.

Scratching their hands?

FUCK YOU FISH.

Your liberal roots are showing again. No one wants to hear it.

This doesn't sound like the regular Superficial writer - who never crosses the line form funny to angry/totally crass.
Don't get me wrong, I hate Palin, but I don't come here for political anger. I come for bipartisan funnies. Bring the old guy back, plz.

This morning my shit had loads of corn in it.........strange thing is I haven't had corn in months. Heading over to see my physician this afternoon. Wish me luck.

there*

Not their.

Quote: Was their a corruption scandal about to break?

lol

Libel

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b. the act or crime of publishing it.
c. a formal written declaration or statement, as one containing the allegations of a plaintiff or the grounds of a charge.

2. anything that is defamatory or that maliciously or damagingly misrepresents.

Slander

–noun 1. defamation; calumny: rumors full of slander.
2. a malicious, false, and defamatory statement or report: a slander against his good name.
3. Law. defamation by oral utterance rather than by writing, pictures, etc.

Hey editor, if you're going to get into politics, why don't you leave your Roveian style half-truth bullshit at the door you fucking imbecile.

Sarah Palin is a disgusting women, a true scank.

Lily,

I hate to suprise you this morning but Michael Jackson is dead, so I doubt he'll be responding to any e-mail messages.

As to Sarah Palin, I suspect she's got a master scheme since she's a maverick - it will be fun to watch.

she is so beautiful.............http://tinyurl.com/qtmujw

Is it just me or did she lose some weight?

This is a step in the whatever direction for you Sarah, so congratulations on getting closer to whatever it happens to be. You inspired many people with your speeches on whatever and united the right kind of whatever people to stand behind you, although for the most part, it was hard to understand whatever they were saying in Ohio.

Randal

Shes a GILF...you mention Sarah Palin i visualize her, in her short shorts reading the paper...

I agree with #8. A truly tallented satirical writer can point out the absurdity in things in an amusing way without resorting to name calling. Which is pretty much what a 2 year old would do. So why don't you go back to posting pictures of celebrity boobs, the real reason anybody veiws this site, and leave the political satire to the more capable adults.

I saw the porno this Palin was in ...funny as hell......she kept yelling Drill Baby! DRILL! as she was gettin' it.

Palin was and is the best thing to happen to the Dems. Hope she sticks around.............makes me feel like a genius.

Angry website blogger is angry! You come off much better when you talk about celebrities in Hollywood rather than Washington (et al). Just a protip.

Wow, even Randal was cracking at saying something nice. Whatever..

Maybe they finally have hard proof Trig is Bristol's not Sarah's. (Bristol missed the last 5 months of school during the pregnancy, Palin was in Texas the eve she gave birth to Trig in Alaska, nobody on Palin's staff knew she was pregnant and said she never looked like she was carrying, etc)

How does quitting gov. prepare one for president? I'd never vote for a quitter. She's got to spend the next three years memorizing lines like "Joe six-pack" "Can I call you Joe?" and all those other one liners she pulled in the debates. Jeez, I hope America doesn't fall for it. My other theory is she was offered a talk show. I wonder if somebody is blackmailing her, and if they are THANK YOU! BuBye Sarah Baracuda.

Hey, let's turn to the libtard media for an analysis of someone they hate with a passion they never showed for the terrorists who attacked on 9/11. The only enemies they see are conservatives, and the vitriol reserved for Palin is especially unhinged. She was the VP on the ticket yet they scrutinized her 100 times more thoroughly and viciously than the guy running for president. We heard more about Trig Palin than about Tony Rezko or Bill Ayers, for god's sake.

Hillary quit as senator to run for president, after promising she was going to serve her full term. Obama spent half his senate term running for president, then quit before he was done.

15 ethics complaints that she had to pay to defend, all 15 dismissed. They were bankrupting her with harassing lawsuits and false claims, while the media was dissecting her family as tabloid fodder. Who needs that? She should use her celebrity to cash some big checks and get ready for a run at whatever office she wants. She is hugely popular outside the effete liberal elite in the media and on the coasts. That must be why the left is so determined to destroy her.

Just check this board or any other Palin feedback for a good example of the progressive liberal opinion of conservative women. It's not pretty.

You Dude, why are you here? For honest informative news or demented derailing bullshit? I hope the latter cuz you aint getting the former, stupid.
Allow me to libel and slander your Republican hero for me: She's a corrupt, ignorant whore who was incapable of answering the most rudimentary questions posed to her by a mere news journalist. This proved beyond the shadown of a doubt that she was in the same mold as Reagan, Dubya, and McCain - long on bullshit and short on intelligence.

You are done for at least another 7 and a half years. Not that it matters essentially. There will be plenty war for you Neocon types! Obama, Bush, whatever they are all doing what they are told and you better open up a few books, you ignorant children. We are all being duped. Sorry, but it is most likely far far too late to do anything about it. You will see the American way of life will be about more government, more military expenditures to support the military bases around the world that guard all the factories where the rich are stealing from the poor nations. more police action, less freedom, more handsome lawyers finding ways to take our monies (hahaahahahah) in courts.

Don't decieve yourselves. This has all been planned behind closed doors within eyesight but not in our realm of vision. These organisations all have names too. Get ya some learnin' and you too might have a clue!

Go Sarah! Thief! Whore! She is the Queen of Superficiality.

Their?

Homonyms our hard.

Missy, you are so full of shit it's amazing. Most of what is said about Palin is 100% bullshit, as your post shows. You voted for Obama who was a quitter (except for smoking, he just lied about quitting that). She wasn't showing? Bullshit again, or back it up with a link. Fucking idiot.

Now she can visit all 57 states like Obama and be ready for next time.

-looks like the rightards have their panties in a bunch about Palin - guess we know where all of the racist comments on here come from now..hehehe

Sam, look above you, the negative comments about Palin being a whore etc are exclusively coming from the left.

Liberal or Conservative ..politics aside... whomever is writing this column is a complete DICKHEAD for always making references to shitting on the flag..

SHIT ON SUPERFISCIAL.. suck my dick motherfucker.

1) First off, Phish, how about a disclaimer that the photo is obviously NOT Sarah Palin. This is porn star Lisa Ann as Sarah "Who's Nalin Palin" fame. Fair is fair.

2) Run Sarah Run. Show America for the hypocrite you are! Promote abstinence while you're daughter has unprotected sex! Tell us about responsible government in the middle of an ethics probe for graft with sweetheart construction jobs! Share your womanhood how rape victims have to pay for their own rape kits! Refuse federal money while you build your Bridge To Nowhere! This is America's future!

Palin / Sanford 2012!!!

Regardless of what side you stand on, you owe it to yourself to read the 5000 Year Leap.
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You have to kind of feel sorry for the rightwing loonies. They are left trying to breath life into the Repub party with only out-and-out freaks like Sarah Palin to work with.

The right wing is screwed. Well, they will have to come up with someone as their standard bearer in the next two years.

I hope it's better than McCain/Palin which were really lame. Maybe Ann Coulter??

Duh. Do ya' think there is a major corruption scandal ready to blow in Alaska?? What else would make Palin duck and run for cover?

She doesn't desire to be a lame duck ... so she dumps the role on Sean Parnell instead. Whatever. Who cares...

BTW, didn't think it was necessary to point out but...leaving a current office to upgrade to another position, especially a higher post is common practice. Palin would've left her governor post (too) to be vice-president if her and McCain had won.

Do any of you "Obama/Hillary" left early to be..." whiners actually understand that concept. Probably not. Unless it works to support just *your* position.

And #30, the bridge to nowhere was voted on a year before she was elected. I appreciate your willingless to remain clueless.

palin not working for the public is the best thing she can do for the public.

... oh, yeah, Unlike Obama, Hillary, and the others who were offered cabinet and other high-level government positions (those dastardly "quitters"), Palin *DIDN'T* get elected to another office. Did she? So yeah, she quit.

I guess libel is supposed to be legal?

I understand that this website is very tongue-in-cheek and prints all kinds of bogus bullshit.

But if anything approximating a respectable publication (sorry!) prints patently untrue and defamatory allegations or stories, they can be sued for libel.

But way to pretend like you understand the legal system, dude. Opinions > facts anyday, right?

Hmmm.... let's see, stay in office as a lame duck Gov., have all media types taking pot shots at her husband, herself and her kids, while not being able to adequately address them, face down accusations of ethics violations that require ungodly sums of money to fend off?

Or, get a television news/talk show, be on the cover of magazines, and get paid to travel around the lower 48 and get paid lots of money on the lecture circuit, while staying famous by being lampooned on the national stage? Wow, that's a toughy.

Who the hell cares?! As long as Sarah Palin ends up in a skin mag where she has the mandatory pics; of her on all fours with ass up, leaning against something pooching out her ass, one with her tits cupped in offering to the camera, and laying on a bed with a "come and get it" stare.

Seriously, can you guys even read? Obama and Clinton both quit their jobs early to run for president. Happens all the time. And Edit, Obama and Clinton weren't offered other jobs before they quit, they quit first then ran for president. Moron. Obama spent 21 months as a senator outside DC running for president, so he wasn't even doing his job before he quit.

And why not just disagree with her and vote for the opposition, rather than call her a cunt, whore, bitch, retard etc. Grow the fuck up.

@ #24 - Well said!

Talk about being a "role model for women" Way to go Sarah.

And I wouldnt say the Republican party is totally screwed. At least they're starting to have straight sex scandals again....

I love it, Palin does her own thing! She won't follow the Washington fatasses. Drive's em crazy! What a list of schucks: Obama, Biden, Gore, Clintons, Kerry, Edwards, Kennedy. What's wrong with our politicians?

scratching their hands? Scratching their heads? i didn't know one would scratch their hand in disbelief....

Can field dress a moose but can't take the heat in the kitchen.

I swear... the Fish is the awesomest place to discuss politics... I'm just praying for a sex tape.

Hey, it's nice to see Perez Hilton guest blogging. Are you defending your First Amendment rights in Toronto again, Mario?

Then there was Joe Biden, running for President then VP at the same time he was running for reelection as Senator. That's what integrity looks like, bitches.

"She doesn't desire to be a lame duck ... so she dumps the role on Sean Parnell instead."

Parnell is running next year. He won't be a lame duck.

"Tell us about responsible government in the middle of an ethics probe for graft with sweetheart construction jobs!"

The FBI says there is no such probe. Figure out who told you that and never listen to them again.

Pablo... give up on her... you're obviously a huge fan, but she's given up on her state and on you. Go stalk Newt.

Sucks. I was kind of hoping somebody would assassinate her... from a helicopter.

Obama and Clinton did not quit their jobs. Sarah Palin cannot handle being a Governor. Palin should have followed the Republicans advise by keeping a low profile, understand policies, and the constitution while being Governor. Palin only has a 20 percent following like Rush, so there is no way Palin will become president in 2010. Even the BBC said Palin gave a rambling speech. Palin is a big joke and she can have her little 20 percent fans.

if she's angling for the white house, she's picked the worst route ever. If the republicans have her in mind, they need to seriously get in there and manage the fuck out of her. You simply don't quite your elected high position governorship 1.5 years before it's over, because you don't want to be a lame duck!! that was the most insane reasoning ever... and to thing there might be more than one person out there that thinks she's sane, well-spoken, and intelligent!!!
I personally am no big fan of Obammy, but he better get crackin' and make himself unbeatable in the next election, or we all will be MORE screwed than we are now. sigh!!

To all of you idiots(#39 Joe) saying that Obama "quit" the senate early in order to run for president. the truth is he was a senator all the way up to November 08, He quit after he was elected president. In palins case she quit before being elected to any higher office. She just quit.

In Hilary's case she didn't quit until 2009, after the presidential election was way past over, So in this case your not even stretching the truth your just lying.

"Pablo... give up on her... you're obviously a huge fan"

Yeah, you can tell by the way I noted that there is no FBI probe, which was the only mention of her I made. Remember RichPort's Ghost, when you throw darts at your Palin blow up doll, it isn't going to inflate anymore. Maybe you can get a Hillary doll for the lovin' and a Saran doll to hate on.

You're her gardener, aren't you Pablo..?

Fish: Stick to posting and commenting upon nearly naked celebutards and the like. . You are best suited for that. role. Don't try to interpret anything or any one not liberal or socialist. You come of as a DORK and LOSER, LOSER.

FISH DON'T HOLD BACK AND TELL IT LIKE IT IS!

PALINS A FUCKING IDIOT!

I LOVE YOU FISH! KEEP IT REAL!

FISH DON'T HOLD BACK AND TELL IT LIKE IT IS!

PALINS A FUCKING IDIOT!

I LOVE YOU FISH! KEEP IT REAL!

FISH DON'T HOLD BACK AND TELL IT LIKE IT IS!

PALINS A FUCKING IDIOT!

I LOVE YOU FISH! KEEP IT REAL!

FISH DON'T HOLD BACK AND TELL IT LIKE IT IS!

PALINS A FUCKING IDIOT!

I LOVE YOU FISH! KEEP IT REAL!

FISH DON'T HOLD BACK AND TELL IT LIKE IT IS!

PALINS A FUCKING IDIOT!

I LOVE YOU FISH! KEEP IT REAL!

FISH DON'T HOLD BACK AND TELL IT LIKE IT IS!

PALINS A FUCKING IDIOT!

I LOVE YOU FISH! KEEP IT REAL!

FISH DON'T HOLD BACK AND TELL IT LIKE IT IS!

PALINS A FUCKING IDIOT!

I LOVE YOU FISH! KEEP IT REAL!

If Palin cannot handle being Governor then she cannot handle being President. Palin's a big mess!

So it turns out it wasn't corn after all. Stupid pine nuts!! Doc looked at me like I was crazy. Embarrassing.

Thank you #39.

Hey # 50: next Presidential election is 2012, get a clue dork. Obama has proven you can be a lightweight & campaign & win off of Twitter, you tube & the internet (al gore invented that). We are so screwed, get ready for hyperinflation- hope u have some gold & real estate for the crunch. Buckle up!

I've been trying to figure this out by process of elimination:
- Senate in 2010? No, Lisa Murkowski (who does NOT like Palin) is not going anywhere
- Presidency in 2012? No chance of a nomination, she's p-ed off the GOP top brass for the last time with this move. Plus, Murkowski is rising in the top GOP ranks.
- Scandal? Who knows? The one that's being mentioned was a long time ago and not that serious. Murkowski (again!) kept her job after a little scandal
- TV? We could be looking at the next Mike Huckabee here. Or, the next Fox News anchor? Just the job for someone without an original thought in her head, IMHO.

I have to feel bad a little bit about this. I believe that I may have caused this to happen. I emailed Sarah Palin not to long ago asking her to quit her job and come hang out with me. I promised many days and weeks of sweaty monkey love to her if she would come visit.

Stay tuned for any future videos of her in the news. You may notice a slight limp in her walk for awhile.

If these same comments were about Tori Spelling, no one would care. Put them about Palin & the Republicans get their panties in a knot. Yay, hypocrisy.

(happily 3rd party)

#60

When Clinton left office the US had a surplus and when Bush left office the US has a huge deficit. Obama has a big mess to fix. I would rather have Obama/Biden in office than McCain/Palin. Al Gore actually contibuted to the invention of the Internet. Republicans depended too much on anti-abortion and religion to get elected. The people have voted and spoken and now the Republicans need to find themselves again and a new platform.

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You make no sense. Tori Spelling is a horse face ugliest breast implants in Hollywood no talent mess that got a break from her famous producer father.

Rough Douchie, does that fantasy, like so many of yours, end with Todd tying tassels to your ears and riding you around like a girls bike?

Keep it up Fish, the desperation these posts evoke is hilarious.

I can only hope that both D's and R's become so unpalatable that we can actually get a viable 3rd party.

I wonder if David Letterman is smiling right now. I know I am.

She's screwed. The more exposure she gets, the more people will realize that she is in fact mentally retarded.

Even if you are a Republican, how can u want to elect a person who refers ceratin parts of the country as, "The Real America." Are the soldiers fighting for you that were born in New York not real Americans?

What a stupid post, and it makes the point perfectly that Palin tried to make. She quit her job, and some asshole internet tough guy on superficial.com gives her grief.
I don't blame her. I'd tell the world to kiss my fucking ass too if I'd been treated like she has. If you ask me, she was too nice about it. She should have started out with, "Fuck each and every one of you in press, I hope your mothers die from pussy cancer and that you catch it after you're forced to eat her out at knife point, you bunch of assholes." Then she could get nasty.

Big tough guy talks shit about a woman. I'm sure you're mother is so proud.

Now strap on your kneepads, the Zero-bama needs a Lewinski from the writer of this article.

Not sure of why the hypocrisy on National politicians...Obama's just a suit, he's clueless. Was he even born here? Barney Frank crashed housing & banks, Clinton's partner to dirt, Edwards- no comment, Kerry's a goldigging poodle. Biden is a flat out moron. I don't get it? At least the network news that supports them is bleeding viewers- I love it!

Why'd you have to get partisan?

No more making $ from my click$.

Last visit here, thanks.

#69 - So... because she's a woman, she can't take it (though she has had 4 kids... she can apparently take it REAL good...)? Now being mean to a politician who happens to be a woman is somehow worse than if it were a man? Just because I'd screw that bitch while Bristol watches in no way means I'm a misogynist. Geez... I'm rambling more than a quittin' speech...

This jizz-jar should stick to what she does best: Churning out retarded children. Seriously, F' this hatchet wound and her whole backwoods, inbred clan.

Mr. Superficial, you know why you don't like Sarah Palin? Because you are a homo and secretly you want Spencer Pratt to pound your butt and then have you lick it off clean. You are a homo whore, and you wish Gwenyth Paltrow shoved a strapon so far up your colon it would play the ding-a-ling-ling on your tonsils. You are a faggot sitting on an old chair in soiled 4 week old underwear, yellow in the front, brown in the back, living in your mother's basement, waiting, dreaming that Madonna comes by and urinates in your homo mouth. In reality you wish you were Michael Jackson and could have sex with monkeys and little boys. And maybe you do. You will be nothing more than a sick douchebag, no matter what you do. Now go suck on some Hollywood and Liberal chlamidia you ignorant worthless piece of aids turd.

This is what she gets for scaring the shit out of LIBTARD-Obama lickers. They have had it out for her since day one. She scared the shit out of , well, the shit eaters then, and she does now. Her poop has more experience than our current Teleprompter in Chief.

oh, PS, FUCK OBAMA and his wife, THE WOOKIE.

She has a purdy mouth.

Wow, you right wingers are sure angry and bored today. Are you gearing up to petition to have our freedom of speech taken away? She is an idiot, go review the interviews. It's Fact.

Who wants moron, cowboy(or girl) politics that only results in a broken economy and wasteful wars. I (and clearly most of America) am tired of the anti-gay, pro-christian, anti-abortion religious zealots that have become the base of the republican party. Your time is over.

#23- You're seriously saying that liberals hate Sarah Palin more than they hate the terrorists who killed thousands of innocent Americans on 9/11?? Are you fucking kidding me?

Palin was scrutinized more than other candidates because 95% of people had no idea who she was before McCain picked her. Had Obama picked a virtual unknown as runningmate, you can be damn sure there would've been a ton of press on that person as well. Would you really have preferred having zero coverage on Palin, considering she supposedly re-energized the Republican base?

Politicians quitting their jobs for a higher position is common and not really a big deal, but Palin decided to hold an awkward press conference the day before the 4th of July (trying to get maximum media coverage, I assume) and just say she was quitting. She did not lay out future plans, meaning she might not have any. If she quit and specifically said she had her sights set on the White House or wanted to be a Senator or something, that would be different. But she just quit.

I read that 2 of the 15 ethics complaints have been looked at further. I don't know details about them but anyone who would file a false ethics complaint against a public official because they disagree with their politics is pathetic. I assume you would be equally outraged if a Democratic governor had to spend an equal amount of time and money defending themselves against false allegations of ethics violations.

Palin is anything but "hugely popular". Liberals and most moderates do not like her. She only appeals to the extremely conservative base, which doesn't do a lot of good, because its not like those hardcore right-wing Republicans were going to vote for Obama if McCain didn't pick a right-wing runningmate. It makes zero political sense to pander to the extremists in your party because they will vote for you no matter what. Palin will NEVER have enough support to get anywhere near the White House unless she radically changes her views on issues to become more moderate, in which case her base of supporters would no longer worship her.

FUCK OFF FISH
I come here for tits not your retarded personal opinions. So unless Palin is showing some nipple keep your mouth shut.

Let me get this straight. The current Prez thinks the key to energizing the economy is the one-two punch of having the government take on an unholy amount of debt and passing laws that will make everything more expensive, but Sarah Palin is the one who's an idiot.

Uh-huh.

Why are they scratching their hands? Maybe they have eczema. My mom hand eczema on her hand once and it was itchy. They should see the doctor.

#81

We already have a huge deficit because of the war Bush started. Obama is trying to get the economy going again. I already have to pay more taxes in California because of a Republican that I voted for and California is in 24 million debt. I make a decent living and am willing to pay more taxes. I am not thrilled about paying more taxes, but the government needs to get money some way.

@ Ted Tedlinson, #26: 57 states?

. . . Really? Exactly what country do you think Palin will be visiting?

And, as a follow-up: what more proof does anyone need that Palin supporters are completely retarded?

You just told the world that you are an idiot because you believe that someone married to Maria Shriever would be a conservative. But it will get better for you, because misery is being spread equally, and your retarded electorate will raise your taxes so much that you are willing to pay for. BTW I didn't know that jacking was a decent living.

@ Josey Wales, #41: Hmm, good question. Maybe you'd get an answer if you asked Vitter, Sanford, Gingrich, Craig, Delay, Lott, Stevens, Foley, Palin, Bachman, Harris, Cheney or Bush.

Re. # 84

black and beautiful,

It was the Dear Leader himself who Referred to visiting "fifty-seven" states, "with one left to go", in a campaign speech in Oregon. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02DtIws

It is your Dear Leader who thinks the US has fifty-eight states, not Palin. By your own definition, that makes the Dear Leader, AKA OBama, "completely retarded". Thanks for admitting what libertarians already knew.

#81 It's very simple economics - you can't spend more if less is coming in. The repubs never got it through their heads that if they don't raise taxes, they can't continue to spend as if they have.

Maybe you don't get that if you don't raise taxes but increase your spending, and then give out rebates to be popular as well, you'll tear through a budget surplus in no time. If you then start a two-country war and have to borrow money from the Chinese to keep going while shovelling large amounts out the back door in sweetheart contract deals, you'll have even more debt. If you deregulate banking laws that allow banks to write loans to people who can't afford them, you'll create a housing bubble that will pop and take banks, homeowners and businesses that are heavily reliant on credit down with it.

The unholy debt was acquired way before Obama came on the scene. Blame the ones who started the fire, not the people who are trying to put it out. You're bitching about how much the water's costing while your house in burning down.

@ 83, no one can deny Obama is trying. The question is "how is it working out so far?" The government has taken custody of numerous failing private businesses, we're hundreds of billions FARTHER in debt on top of anything W Bush (of whom I was no fan, BTW) did, and the only thing we have to show for it is a still-lethargic economy with a still-rising unemployment rate now nearing double digits. Still to come are the inflationary effects of all this borrowed money and the added consumer costs of an all-inclusive cap-and-trade bill ostensibly passed in the name of global warming. Together, this is a recipe for disaster.

As far as California's and your own situation, 1) that Ahnold was able to run as a Republican in the first place just proves how screwed up the GOP is; 2) let's not forget that California lays claim to being probably the most "progressive" state in the union, so by all means it should be utopia if such policies work; and 3) the answer to government debt isn't for the government to squeeze more out of those already paying taxes, it's lowering taxes in order to encourage consumer spending and economic development which in turn creates more taxable income and investments across the board. When tax rates go down, government revenues actually go UP. As a matter of historical fact, that works EVERY time it's tried. Even JFK successfully championed that policy. The problem with doing that now is that some people want to have a conniption fit when free enterprise results in some people doing better than others. They think it's far better to just have everyone equally miserable.

Instead of just dutifully paying your higher taxes, you should challenge the reasoning behind and efficacy of how they're spent.

"Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events. Small minds discuss people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

#83
Illegals cost the US taxpayer 10 times the amount of the war in Iraq.

#91 You mean the illegals that Bush wanted to give amnesty to? I've seen how much cooperation ICE gives to law enforcement here in CA - none. They go after the nannies and leave the gang leaders alone and claim deportation costs too much. I love politicans who whore after future voters instead of representing the people who elected them.

Hey Blackie @ 86: Or ask McGreevey, Blagojevich, Barney Frank, Spitzer, Bubba Clinton, Edwards, Jefferson or Marion Barry...

she is a repuke whore

@88, you're half right. Absolutely, you can't spend more than is coming in and stay in the black.

However, it's also simple economics that the more money you take from people, the less they'll have to spend and/or invest elsewhere, which drags the economy down. $50 more paid in taxes is $50 less someone has available to spend on something else upon which someone else's job relies. If things slow down at a restaurant, the the cook gets let go. If fewer video games are sold, programmers get laid off. Not to mention both the restaurant and the video game company themselves pay less in taxes since they're making less money. Less economic activity = less taxes being paid, as you can't tax income that's simply not there. To borrow from your own analogy, higher taxes save the water at the larger expense of the home.

For some reason, everybody can agree that "stimulus checks" and "relief" are wonderful ideas to kick-start an economy on a sporadic basis, but few see the benefits of carrying that boost over into a full-time policy.

Back to the deficits, yes, the Bush years put us in a huge hole, even historically and relatively speaking in terms of past debt levels. The question now is how is Obama renting a backhoe to dig even farther and faster EVER going to fix that?

And BTW, it wasn't "deregulation" of banks that caused the mortgage problem. It was the federal government's dictation to the mortgage industry that people who were at a high risk of not being able to make payments were to be given loans anyway. Did you know "Fannie Mae" and "Freddie Mac"--the lenders at the center of the whole mess--are, respectively, shorthand for "Federal National Mortgage Association" and "Federal Home Loan Mortgage Corporation"--which were, as their names suggest, government-sponsored companies? Look it up if you don't believe me. In a nutshell, what happened was that in the late '90s and early '00s, tthe brilliant folks in D.C. decided people who can't afford houses should be able to buy them anyway, so they pressured the private banks to make bad loans. The banks said, "We can't do that because it's stupid," so D.C. said, "OK, how about this? You make the loans, then we'll have Fannie or Freddie take most of them off your hands." The banks (having little choice) went along with it, and what followed was an all-too-predictable outcome, at the end of which the parties most responsible absolved themselves of all blame at the expense of a largely ignorant public.

#95 "This Administration will constantly strive to promote an ownership society in America. We want more people owning their own home. It is in our national interest that more people own their own home. After all, if you own your own home, you have a vital stake in the future of our country."
- President George W. Bush, December 16, 2003

Just like Brownie doing one helluva job, the reality fell far short of the concept.

Are you seriously going to argue that the 1999 deregulatory Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act that burned down the firewalls that were put up to prevent another Great Depression-type bank failure isn't responsible? That act repealed part of the Glass-Steagall Act, which prohibited banks and insurance companies from consolidating into bigger, larger conglomerates that can engage in speculative activities with your money.

Oh, the poor commercial banks, investment banks, securities firms and insurance companies who had no choice but to consolidate! Oh, the humanities! Why, it 's just like when Enron was forced to adopt that horrible mark-to-market accounting system from Arthur Andersen! Why Citibank was arm-twisted to buy Travelers and combine banking, secutities and insurance businesses to make Citigroup - so all the branches would just consolidate with no watchdogs required.

Banking industries have been yammering for this deregulation since Reagan, and Greenspan just knew the market would regulate itself. He was wrong.

If that wasn't enough, Gramm tacked on the Commodity Futures Modernization Act. This act deregulated derivatives, aka futures. Now each company that held derivatives, like subprime mortgage bundles, could determine the value of those mortagaes themselves when calculating the value of their liquid assets, without any government verification. Any company that wanted to overextend itself could simply overvalue its derivatives and hope to Christ they didn't get caught in a cash crunch. Just like Enron with its fictitious balance sheets.

It all tanked together. Big complicated companies with huge internal incentives and no regulation take speculative risks, and those companies that caused the crisis by those disastrous investment policies were now so interwined and so big that the government felt that they could not be allowed to fail.

Unfortunately there's no quick fix for anything and we're a coountry that wants everything right NOW. It took us 10 years and a World War to help us dig our way of the last crisis that approached this magnitude and we're only 10 months into this one.

#95 P.S. Don't forget Bush's 2004 Zero-Downpayment Initiative! The Federal Housing Administration had to insure mortgages for first-time homebuyers without a downpayment. Heckuva job there, too.

What you should never do in a recession is raise taxes, you should cut nonessential spending. Sacramento doesn't get that and has instituted a hike in what it calls "fees" - which are really taxes. Ahnuld is in a bind because the interests like the teacher's unions lthat got him elected will pull their support if he cuts their unbilicus or eliminates cushy gubmint positions and programs.

looks like the original shawn is one of the few people on this sight with a brain, good job shawn, very valid points.

No.66 there is a decent 3rd party, their called libertarians.

No.22 are you fucking stupid? she had 2 babies in 8 months, damn she works fast doesn't she?

half of you people talk about how stupid palin is when the current vice president has the IQ of a fucking platypus! i bet you if biden and bush took IQ tests, biden's would be 50 points lower.

I have a different theory: YOU are a fucking idiot. Equating suing the press with shitting on the flag is one of the stupidest things I've heard this year. Even dumber than "they can't pay it back? Bah, give 'em the mortgage anyway". Grow a brain fish, you need one.

#97: Bush never had a "zero down initiative". Carter is the one that started the "homeownership society". Please check your facts before posting.

Wow... seriously... get off the politics kick... you suck at it...

#100 Really? I suggest you check yours. The concept of an Ownership Society has existed since the Homesteader Act, it's practically ingrained in oiur national consciousness as The American Dream since the 1950's, way before Carter. The Community Reinvestment Act (CRA) was under his admin, and had nothing to do with zero down.

CRA regulated banks made 1 in 4 sub-prime loans, and were half as likely to resell and offload their paper. The majority of the subprime excesses came from lending institutions not covered under CRA regulations. Independent mortgage companies were the ones who made risky loans at more than twice the rate of the banks and thrifts.

Bush announced the Zero Down Payment Act of 2004 in January. The initiative was part of HUD's 2005 budget and would eliminate the 3% minimum down payment for FHA-insured single-family mortgages for first-time homebuyers. The Congressional Budget Office claimed it would generate huge losses, estimating that legislation allowing for no money down on federally insured mortgages could cost taxpayers as much as $500 million over four years because of a higher rate of defaults.

Financial planners warned that sub-prime mortgages and increasingly common no- and low-down-payment programs could be ruinous -- especially if housing values declined. If prices fell, people with little or no equity would ending up with mortgages larger than the value of the house. And people who can't afford large down payments usually don't have enough savings as a mortgage cushion if they get sick or laid off.

Sound familiar? Wow, I bet you aren't a Doctor, either.

Damn, another gossip site I will no longer read.
New Zealand anyone?

#102

This is the problem with the 20 percent of Republicans that listen to talk radio instead of listening to reliable news sources like The BBC World News and reading reliable magazines like the Economist and News Week. They get the wrong information by listening to talk radio opinions and not facts.

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Get a clue dude and go back to school, so you can learn how to properly express yourself, so people can understand you.

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Get a clue dude and go back to school, so you can learn how to properly express yourself, so people can understand you.

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Get a clue dude and go back to school, so you can learn how to properly express yourself, so people can understand you.

@96 & 97 (and some of 102), you're missing the point. Obviously, Bush was President when a lot of this went down. When did I ever say he wasn't? I only referenced "the brilliant folks in D.C." in the "late '90s and early '00s." Bush was among those folks. You seem to be reading into my comments a defense of him that is not (and never will be) there.

Put aside your obsessive disgust for a man who's no longer even in office for a moment and just read what I'm saying. What I'm criticizing here is the government making a bigger mess of things by doing things it shouldn't be doing. Whether it's Bush, Obama, or the Tooth Fairy in the White House at the time doesn't matter. Bad policy is bad policy, and when you start layering bad policies one on top of one another, the result is unavoidable.

The problem with our government today is that the people we've put in charge of it over the years think they're above the natural laws of physics, economics, and human behavior. It doesn't matter what history shows us, or what every accepted model in a particular field predicts, or even what common sense says the result is going to be. They're convinced that they can do no wrong, and if something hasn't worked in the past or shouldn't be expected to work in the future, it's only because they haven't been the ones to try it yet. And when they fuck things up, it's no big deal. They can just reach into our wallets for the next 5 generations to try to "fix" the situation by doing yet even more retarded things.

#108 Nice try there, but you were the one who criticized the current admin's "taking on an unholy amount of debt" - as if that debt didn't already exist. It did exist, thanks to a Republican sponsored bill, Reagan's deregulatory champion Alan Greenspan and a president who had "beliefs" but no actual idea of how things actually work in the real world. You also claimed the bank dereg had nothing to do with incurring that debt and you're grossly mistaken on that point.

The point is this: blaming the guy who inherited the problem for how he's coping with it 10 months into the situation is puerile on your part. If you have a better idea, let's hear it. "Bad policy"? What's YOUR "good" policy here? I see a lot of pissing and moaning from the right but not one fucking solution. And in the absense of any acceptance of culpability or anything contributable, they really should be shutting the fuck up about the cleanup bill for the mess they made. One of AIG's corporate officers whining about returning his bonus (which he only got though the bailout funds) was absolutely disgusting - you can see why the French Revolution was such a success when it comes to an overburden people having had enough of entitled attitudes like that.

We're now in the unenviable position Britain found itself in at the start of WWII - they knew the war debt to fight Germany would cripple them for decades to come but they had to choice but to incur it. I don't see that we have a choice but to spend money to save numerous intertwined conglomerate institutions that, if they fail, will take massive amounts of jobs and whatever remains of pension funds with them, creating even more hardship in terms of unemployment and property loss.

#104 No shit. When the Bible was still in Latin, not translated into the vernacular of German, English, whatever, only your priest could tell you what was in it and what it meant. You were then prohibited from reading those common-language publications because coming to your own conclusions is dangerous.

If we tell you exactly what to think on TalkRadio you'll be far less inclined to question us. It's soooo much easier to be spoon fed a party line than question it or read or research anything on your own. Interpretation is one thing, but facts really are another. Truth Doctor didn't even fucking bother to google the two subjects to factcheck for himself, he "knew" the truth - which is only what he'd been fed . All that was missing was the "choo-choo" noise that accompanies the spoonful of pablum. Challenge everything.

superficial writer you are an alabaster retard and you should realize that you lose fan base when you give out a political opinion

Why are you people so afraid of Sarah? Is it because she has common sense and morals? Does it make you feel better to tell lies about her? The reason she resigned as Gov is because ignorant pukes on the left keep filing ethical charges against her, and it is costing the state of Alaska millions of dollars to investigate, and costing her millions of dollars to defend. She resigned to benefit the state of Alaska, so get over it you idiots!!! Al the charges brought against her so far have proven to be false, so shut the F up and get a life.....Don't be so p***whipped into going along with shit lies just to try and fit in. Grow a pair and grow up!

Sarah Palin is a certified retard. Any GOP member really is and their followers are all conservative; racist dumb asses who will support any one or any thing that allows them to get ahead. I can't wait for Dick Cheny, Liz Cheney and the bush admin to burn for their war crimes and as far as Sarah Palin is concerned - her I.Q. can't be more than 80 if that - she's just an idiot who probably sucked a lot of dick (cheney) to get where she is....her daughter is a whore too.

Sarah Palin is a certified retard. Any GOP member really is and their followers are all conservative; racist dumb asses who will support any one or any thing that allows them to get ahead. I can't wait for Dick Cheny, Liz Cheney and the bush admin to burn for their war crimes and as far as Sarah Palin is concerned - her I.Q. can't be more than 80 if that - she's just an idiot who probably sucked a lot of dick (cheney) to get where she is....her daughter is a whore too.

I bet she was jealous because Michael Jackson was hogging all the press.

If the Republicans can't come up with someone more promising than this clown, they need to pull a Mike Tyson and save the free worlds remaining dignity.

I hope Sarah Palin poses nude for Playboy now she has quit as governor. Shes hot!