Apr 30 2009Miss California goes to Washington

First!

That last comment ... thank you, someone finally said it

That last comment ... thank you, someone finally said it

Yes, because we know such a respected institution such as marriage should be kept between just heterosexuals. We all know that Heidi and Spencer just epitomize that holiness of matrimony....and the last thing we would want are those damn homosexuals to ruin the sanctity of marriage!
GIMME AN EFFING BREAK!!!
Has Prejean (aka Stupid Bitch) looked at the divorce rate in this country? Whatever, she'll be a stupid-ass trophy wife before we know it.

I'm from Romania and I find it so funny that in the "land of freedom", this blonde chick is bashed for opposing gay marriage. How's that right? Seems like gay marriage is "the" thing nowadays. She should be able to believe in whatever the hell she wants and be able to express it.

Suddenly, it seems that you have to be "politically correct" to be able to win beauty pageants. I somehow find this contradictory.

Wow those are some Christians with a lot of time on their hands.

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Hmmm...I wasn't aware that having fake breasts meant that you couldn't be a Christian. Also, I wasn't aware that competing in a competition where the majority of the money you obtain goes to charities and college scholarships was "unchristianlike." Some of you take this shit a little too far. You can't run around trying to find Christians doing something that seems unchristianlike. "Oh look at her, she's a Christian and had an affair! Oh dear, look at that little Jesus freak smoking a cigarette." Cool out people. We all do dumb shit, religious or not.

Now with that being said, I don't understand the whole gay marriage thing. I'm not gay, so I don't really give a shit what they call themselves. It doesn't affect me, although I don't agree with men fucking other men in the ass. I don't agree with a lot of shizz but I'm not going to parade around pushing my beliefs on anyone like Cartman on Southpark.

You work that fifteen minutes, Carrie. It will be over soon and maybe you can make a Christian porno when you can't make a living off pageants. And she might be writing a BOOK? About what?? How do you stretch out "I lost a beauty pageant and I hate fags" to 300 pages??

I hope the Superficial quits posting pictures of women with breast implants. It would be hypocritical to do so ...

You sure she's not the poster child for the Special Olympics.

lol I love Shana Moakler every other week shes having a beef with other hot chic...

If Jesus didn't want the ass to be pummeled by a cock, THEN WHY DO WE HAVE ASSHOLES?

I hardly think JC is "scared" of homos. He just doesn't approve. Fag!

Wow. YAY. Whoopee.

Just what America needs right now, another opinionated whore giving moral advice.

I guarantee this bitch cries while she gives head.

Assuming her career path follows past "beauty queens," she'll be committed to this cause right up until the first offer for cash to pose nude rolls in.

Sorry, but you have to be a special brand of idiot to equate believing marriage to be the union of a male and a female with being homophobic.

You either have the reasoning powers of a 5 year old, or you are completely brainwashed into regurgitating the same knee-jerk accusations I hear day after day.

Grow up, and think for yourself.

Maybe we have assholes so that we can shit. Wild guess, I know. Or I guess it would be for Lemmiwinks.
"A great adventure is waiting for you ahead. Hurry onward Lemmiwinks, for you will soon be dead. The journey before you may be long and filled with woe. But you must escape the gay man's ass, or your tale can't be told. "

I'm just going to put this out there that...

i love the superficial writer.

"I don't understand the whole gay marriage thing. I'm not gay, so I don't really give a shit what they call themselves. It doesn't affect me..."

Amy,

It's not about you. It's about society as a whole, and the social foundations that form a society. You sound more open-minded than many of the lemmings here, so I would encourage you to read up on the arguments on BOTH sides.

A whole lot of straw men have been created, and I am surprised at how many people do not understand the basic premises of the arguments opposing same-sex marriage.

And how any adult can mock any philosophic position without first bothering to understand it is beyond me...

...Unless we are living in a world of children. Then it starts to make sense.

Apparently "Your body is a temple" means "Your body is to be chopped up and mutilated so that people will want to fuck you more."

Some Christian this bitch is.

This is so typical...what's really up/? Take the makeup off, the extensions /eye lashes out, stop starving yourself, and let's see her for who she really is. I thought God didn't like judgement....something tells me the wench has some skeletons in the closet, and it won't be long before someone brings them out...to be continued!

"People are very passionate of this issue"
and they say beauty queens are stupid....

There were a lot of societal arguments against interracial marriage, too. They were all bullshit. The fact is, there is only one argument against same sex marriage. "I am a bigoted piece of shit."

@ Amy

No, having fake breasts doesn't mean you can't be a christian. The point is, its hypocritical to parade around that youre some mighty christian and do all this "sinning." It's called vanity. Where's the whole, "love what god created" or whatever you believe in. Its hypocritical and annoying. Because of the stupid christian hypocrites that are only "christian" on sundays, I don't know what to believe in anymore. My faith is gone. I live with 3 hardcore christians and let me tell you, they are only christian when they go to church on sundays. Other than that, they have guys over and party all the time. They judge people like crazy. Who are they to judge? They are also racist. Whats the point in believing in something or holding religion so high when you "sin" so much? Does one think they can just go to church and pray and its all better? that all the "sinning" is forgotten? Cause jesus died so you are able to sin? I dont understand that. You have the rules. You have the book. Follow it. Don't say you can mess up or smoke a cigarette or whatever. You know what to do, and just f*@!#$@#$ do it! Its soooooooooo annoying.
And EVERYONE has the right to happiness and should have the right to love whomever they want to. I'm sure Jesus wouldnt mind if he was real. Although, with your reasoning, they can just go to church on sundays and everything will be all better.

Anyway, Prejean is all about the fame. And she is not smart. She never answered any of the questions. maybe she didn't understand them. Whoever coached her just used a lot of 'its all about respect' sayings.

President Obama has the same opinion on gay marriage as Miss California, so if you attack her use the same words to attack him.

I don't think it's homophobic to be against gay marriage. Let me ask you this: would it be OK for 1st cousins to marry? Why not? They used to. What about minor girls? Is that OK or not? 14-year old brides were common 100 years ago.

All I'm saying is that Miss California and others have a right to oppose gay marriage. Is there a country on Earth that has universal acceptance of gay marriage? No? Hmmm. Hey,what about Obama? What was his stand again? Oh yeah - a man and a woman can marry, 2 dudes can't. Is he a homophobe? What about Elton John? Isn't he gay? What's his opinion on gay marriage? Not for it? Hey, how about that.

Look, I couldn't care less if 2 dudes get married in a civil ceremony, but if a church says no gay marriage, that's their right. Stop being such a drama queen, gay marriage proponents.

All religions are man made and nothing happens when you die. Just wanted to make sure everybody was aware of this fact.

Have the Christian right seen what a bull dyke looks like or an effeminate male? are they suppose to take up with the opposite sex? so they can be saved?

She clearly lacks articulate speech and thought. Repeating the same creed over and over again is not intelligent discourse on such a heavy and much debated issue. I feel that her inclusion in the debate will actually disadvantage the anti-gay marriage movement more than any spokesperson for it could have ever done. So for this, I say put her out there, 24 hours a day, until nothing is left but a much parodied, mocked and duly humiliated woman. I hope as she matures, she may one day look back at her 15 minutes and think... "what was I thinking... what a waste of opportunity", as she sucks on her unfiltered cigarettes, resting her ashtray on her mammary shelf, which I am sure will continue to grow, staring for hours at a time at the dusty and dimmed tiara that sits alone displayed in her homemade shrine to herself...

I think it was irresponsible for the committtee to reveal such private information.
Looks like a bunch of angry homos got their panties in a knot and want to get back at her.

Please, who's going to try and deny the gay agenda now?
Or any agenda?
you fight for what is convenmient for you, and you dont care about what happens to anyone else.

The only exception to this was ghandi....

I think it was irresponsible for the committtee to reveal such private information.
Looks like a bunch of angry homos got their panties in a knot and want to get back at her.

Please, who's going to try and deny the gay agenda now?
Or any agenda?
you fight for what is convenmient for you, and you dont care about what happens to anyone else.

The only exception to this was ghandi....

I'm an atheist. That's my choice. I don't understand why people feel the need to mock religious people. Grow the fuck up. I'm not sure whose moral superiority is more inflated. An asshole is an asshole.

Just what this country needs- another stupid Christian campaigning to make sure that no one else is too happy.
I hope that Jesus does show up in a golden helicopter to kick some Christian ass- starting with Sarah Palin.

Just what this country needs- another stupid Christian campaigning to make sure that no one else is too happy.
I hope that Jesus does show up in a golden helicopter to kick some Christian ass- starting with Sarah Palin.

Quote from "Europe": "I'm from Romania and I find it so funny that in the "land of freedom", this blonde chick is bashed for opposing gay marriage. How's that right? Seems like gay marriage is "the" thing nowadays. She should be able to believe in whatever the hell she wants and be able to express it."

Absolutely she should have the right to say whatever she wants. And I have the right to say she's a dumb cunt. It seems like you believe that people with her anti-gay marriage views should be able to express themselves, but people who think that it should be legal should shut up and not offer criticism. I guess maybe freedom doesn't go both ways in Romania? Go f*ck yourself, fascist.

Honestly, if you want gay marriage to stay illegal and you're not religious, there is no reason for that belief other than disliking gay people. If you're religious and think that gay marriage is wrong because it makes satan happy, you're not necessarily homophobic, but you're stupid in other ways.

The cons have stupid arguments anyway. like "don't redefine marriage for the rest of us!" Sure, "god" defined marriage in the bible (though the guy didn't actually write it), but I don't believe in any god and thus, what gives you the right to thrust your god's definition of marriage upon everyone else?

@popduds: I believe it.

@amy: think about it, kid. its not rocket science.

#22 -- i agree! well said!

this girl is a fucking moron. i'm sure there are some conservative fat cats somewhere paying her big bucks for her shitty beliefs.

what an asshole.

@36

Exactly. I have no idea why so many Christians are so pissed off about this. They can define their own marriages, just like the rest of us, any way they please.

Jules: I don't disagree with anything you've said. Christians sin. Plain and simple. The point is to try and improve yourselves. So yes, to sin constantly (i.e, screw randos and get drunk nightly) and then go to church on Sunday isn't Christianly. I agree that the idea is to try and live better. I must say, that society has made my question my beliefs and have effed with my head. It's hard to know what's right, what's wrong, or what Jesus would have done. We just have to live the best we can and be kind to others. Although I'm sure Jesus would have disagreed with gay marriage, I don't think that he would have condoned being cruel to them. All you can do is tell others about Christianity and them let them live.

#28. Do you know for certain? Have you experienced death? Truth is, you can't be certain. The most educated scientists refuse to say with all certainty that there is no God. Because there is no way to disprove what you cannot see or test. No one can be for sure. So just live your life the best you can if nothing happens when you die, fine. Nothing lost.

If only people could be this 'passionate' about the idiots that caused the economic depression we're in. Hey, what's that stupid blonde bitch yelling about? Let's go pay attention to her! She should start a march and get hit by a bus.

first of all, if the matter regards society in general, and not a religious community, then the book of reference is not the bible, but the law.

second, it's just a matter of terminology and a compromise on rights.

if instead of calling it "gay marriage" was called "gay union", already some fanatics for the exclusivity of "marriage" would be out of the negotiation: they're happy because marriage is still only for men and women (...)

then some rights are easy to attach to the gay union, such as inheritance law, or next of kin laws.
i don't think anybody would argue about that: the only people affected are the people in love, gay or not gay.

the issue might raise with adoption and stuff like that. that is an issue that should be discussed, and agreed on somehow, by members of society regardless of their faith, but instead using their brains.

augh.

the simple fact of the matter is: for the time being gay people are being discriminated against by law. If you're a church and you don't want to host gay marriages, fine. But to not allow happy gay couples the rights that come with marriage is not only wrong, but illegal. "All men are created equal" There is no possible way to interpret the law as being homophobic without admitting the people who control it are using it for their religious agendas.

Having fake funbags and being religious seem to be like apples and oranges but isn't vanity a sin and therefore against being a good christian. She didn't get the boob job for medical reasons.

As for her faith, she is allowed to have a position but once she becomes a spokesperson, she is rightfully making herself open to condemnation.

Americans are really dumb. She's obviously retarded but still accepted by so many, this would never hapen in the UK, she'd be laughed off the TV.

Well this confirms it for anyone that was still on the bubble.

Op = FLAMING homosexual, and probably dating Perez Hilton.

Why? Because heterosexual men couldn't give a shit what pretty women say, we just want them to go on looking pretty.

Jules: You know rocket scientist don't make that much money? True story. I honestly don't need you to tell me to "think" about anything. I'm my own person, and can believe whatever I want. It would actually be way easier if I weren't a Christian. I wouldn't get bashed so much. But I can't help what I believe. Don't be rude...no need for it. You can not believe all you want...AND THEN BURN IN THE DEPTHS OF H E L L AND GETTING PINE CONES SHOVED UP YOUR ASS!!!!!!!! kidding.

Let me get this right, if you are not for gay marriage then there has to be something wrong with you.... Please

@48

Yes.

You do know that California voted against gay marriage twice right? Isn't California one of the most liberal states in the union? Don't blame Christians or Right-wing conservatives alone. I remember both Obama and Joe Biden stating the don't believe in it. I think it's time you realize that and accept the fact that liberals, democrats, jews, asians, blacks, hispanics, and everyone else I failed to mention is against it too. So you might want to stop knocking the stupid blond girl and work on those who matter.

"Huh. I never really pictured JC as a homophobic douchebag from Orange County, but that seems to be the message these days. Keep spreading the Good News, Carrie!"

Amen. Thank s for writing this!

Why should gays get married? to be in a better tax bracket and to get co health insurance? Fags

The same people who get upset and don't want gay marriage to exist are the same people who hate Obama because he is a "naaaaggggger," as you sibling-fucking rednecks so eloquently put it.

The Bible had all kinds of different marriages. Of course there was marriage between a man and a woman, but there were also marriages between: a man, a wife, and concubine(s); a man and a slave; a man and a female POW; a male and female slave forced to marry; polygamous marriages; etc.

Also, inter-racial and inter-faith marriages were not condoned.

If she's going to base her beliefs off her stupid "I still wipe my ass with my hand and believe bad things happen to my crops because I touch myself at night" cave religion, she should actually try to read the instruction manual that comes with it. However, me climbing to the top of Mt. Everest is more likely than than her being able to pick up the Bible and actually understand any of it. She probably has enough trouble as it is with "Goodnight, moon."

Shouldn't we outlaw other religions in this country besides Christianity???

I mean, if I marry a guy, that's a sin. But if I don't accept Jesus Christ as my savior, that's beyond a sin, I'm straight going to hell. By this logic, that means anyone who's Buddhist, Jewish, Muslim is going to hell, correct?

And what's a worse influence on our children, gay marriage or practicing another religion??

So by this logic, I say we outlaw all other religions.

-Self-righteous Republican

Hmmm beautiful hot girl who voiced an opinion similar to most people in her state or the fish douche here who is taking up the laughable Perez Hilton cause.

Who cares what a gay guy thinks of any girl anyway. They are into dude's asses.
Literally.

Someone should lock the douchebag Perez and Fishdouche in prison and let them have a great party. Who says gay dudes want to get married anyway. Most of the ones I know want bath houses reopened to have sex with tons of guys regularly.

Or is that what they think "marriage" should be.

#26, no President Obama doesn't have the same view. Trust and believe, he articulated that very eloquently, unlike this bimbo. His view is: he doesn't belive the definition of marriage should change. Howeve, he does believe in civil unions, granting homosexuals the SAME rights as heterosexuals. Come on....NO ONE has the right to exclude others, or deny human rights to anyone. There has to be compromise on both sides. What is it to anyone if someone wants to marry the same sex, if someone effects your beliefs so much so that you would seek to demean, or set laws in place that prohibit them for having the same rights as you, perhaps you should find some other planet to exist on. This is a mute topic for me...hell, God only knows where this country would be if women, or African Americans still lived by 16-1800's laws (which are still practiced, just not as obvious). Gay's keeping fighting for your rights, you deserve them and who is anyone to stop you. Need we remind everyone....THIS IS AMERICA, EVERYONE HAS THE RIGHT TO LIFE, LIBERTY AND THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS....for some that is marrying the same sex! (Although not mine:))

How do get four fags on a bar stool ? Turn it upside down! Why do they want to get married? Is gay the new black ? My nephew(THE NEW MESSIAH) is going to have deported soon if he cannot keep me off FOX News and he lied about knowing I was here illegally and living off your government taxes, but that is okay because he is against GAY MARRIAGE !

Miss Cali is a joke, right? She's gotta be a big joke. I can't believe anyone exists that is that stupid...."respect one another"....yeah, Miss Cali, you sure are respectful of others by denying them the same rights that you are blessed with. What a fucking bigot! I can't believe she's made it this far, but unfortunately our Country is full of bigoted, Bible thumping, racist, sexist hate mongers like Carrie Prejean. Yeah, I bet Jesus is really proud of this one! (/rolls eyes)

Scream about "Republican bigotry" as much as you want--Cali broke at least 60% Democrat in the last election and...they still ratified a gay marriage constitutional ban! Great logic.

I'm fine w/ civil unions, but be real--gay marriage is just gays being overly dramatic and lesbians being antagonistic. So quit trying to equate your movement w/ Martin Luther King & 250+ yrs of civil rights struggle.

Don't forget when you're lambasting against "Christian, homophobic douchebags" to include Obama and 52% of California voters in there--or did you idiots think Miss California is the only one who disapproves of gay marriage?

It's hilarious to read all these comments accusing Christians of being prejudiced, close-minded, and so blinded by their zeal they can't see logic. You people should take a look in the mirror!

BTW, I'm agnostic, straight, and I'm totally fine with gay marriage. You nutcases on the extremes of both sides simply disgust me. Obviously neither side has a monopoly on idiocy.

Obama said no to gay marriage, just like the voters of the State of California and Carrie.

End of story. No one is arguing over civil unions. But that's not the agenda. The agenda is to destroy marriage. Meanwhile the ACLU and NAMBLA along with Perez Hilton and Fishdouche are lurking.

Keep an eye on your 10 year old boys there folks.

Evangelical Christians are obsessed with what other people do in their own beds. I've never seen anyone so enthralled with other people's genitals and sex than the Bible thumpers. THEY are the sick ones!

Nothing is free. Freedom is a null concept. Something always comes at the expense of something else.

1. Get freedom out of your head. Not going to happen. How many people have to die before it's accepted.

2. Lead or follow. Actions will outweigh promises, I assure you. Read a history book.

3. Prepare for the worst, and expect nothing in return. That way, you are never disappointed and never have to worry.

Basically, be a pessimist, and simply have faith in whatever your religion. You'll live longer. Keep your beliefs to yourself and preserve. It is true happiness, if that is what you want to call it. Democrats are naive idiots and Republicans are power hungry fat cats. Fuck 'em. Fuck 'em all. Be you. Preserve you.

Self-righteous Republican,

"I mean, if I marry a guy, that's a sin."

...Yes.

"But if I don't accept Jesus Christ as my savior, that's beyond a sin, I'm straight going to hell."

...No. It would help if you actually KNEW the theology you were attacking. Christianity doesn't say you are going to hell BECAUSE you reject Christ. Christianity says ALL men are going to hell because they are sinners. "All men have fallen short of the glory of God."

"By this logic, that means anyone who's Buddhist, Jewish, Muslim is going to hell, correct?"

...It means that ALL men are destined for hell because we have all sinned. (Before you disagree, think about it.) ALL men.

BUT, as CS Lewis stated, if a man rejects God's free offer of salvation, then he shall have that rejection throughout eternity. In short, you get your wish.

"And what's a worse influence on our children, gay marriage or practicing another religion??"

...Sin is sin.

"So by this logic, I say we outlaw all other religions."

...Our Founding Fathers were religious Christians (most of them), and they started a country where you are free to worship as you like. This isn't Iran or Afghanistan where they string you up for being gay, stone you to death for showing your face (if you are a woman), or light your child on fire because you disagree with the ruling mob.

You are free BECAUSE of the tolerance of Christianity. "All men are CREATED equal..."

So, drop the cartoon accusations.

All I know is, you can't post a picture of a girl in a bikini on this site without a bunch of guys saying they want to have anal sex with her. That's a "YES!" vote for gay marriage, regardless of their defensive denials.

Homosexuality is a filthy, disease-ridden practice explicitly condemned by God.

questions?

@ #6 You are an Assclown by definition.

This is states business.
Why cant the fags just move to a state that has it legalized, they are adding a new one daily.

This is a fucking joke, talking about kicking the hinges off of the closet door.

How about jumping back in the closet until your fucking state legalizes it.

We can only be thankful you fuckterds weren't running the show during WWII or we would all be speaking German or Russian now.

To sum up:

President Obama is a fucking moron. i'm sure there are some conservative fat cats somewhere paying him big bucks for his shitty beliefs.

what an asshole.

He is a joke, right? He's gotta be a big joke. I can't believe anyone exists that is that stupid...."respect one another"....yeah, Obama, you sure are respectful of others by denying them the same rights that you are blessed with. What a fucking bigot! I can't believe he's made it this far, but unfortunately our Country is full of bigoted, Bible thumping, racist, sexist hate mongers like Barack Obama. Yeah, I bet Jesus is really proud of this one!

There were a lot of societal arguments against interracial marriage, too. They were all bullshit. The fact is, there is only one argument against same sex marriage. "I am a bigoted piece of shit."

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Grow up people.

Okay....She was asked a question, and she gave an answer. It was her opinion, and just because some people don't agree with it is no reason to attack her. Was she supposed to lie? I don't understand how people can still be so judgmental and hypocritical.

Okay....She was asked a question, and she gave an answer. It was her opinion, and just because some people don't agree with it is no reason to attack her. Was she supposed to lie? I don't understand how people can still be so judgmental and hypocritical.

Okay....She was asked a question, and she gave an answer. It was her opinion, and just because some people don't agree with it is no reason to attack her. Was she supposed to lie? I don't understand how people can still be so judgmental and hypocritical.

Okay....She was asked a question, and she gave an answer. It was her opinion, and just because some people don't agree with it is no reason to attack her. Was she supposed to lie? I don't understand how people can still be so judgmental and hypocritical.

Honestly, there are much more
important things going on in the
world at the moment. People
need to calm down and let this
one go.

Homosexuals = human garbage.

Questions?

It's quite entertaining to read a bunch of stoopid people's arguments for and against ideas they have not a clue about. Carry on...

smarg = braindead bigot programmed by the Bible to hate and fear.

Questions?

smarg = closeted asshole.

Uhhh...#72? "I don't understand how people can still be so judgmental and hypocritical." Neither does anyone who watched titjob carrie's fab speech on gay marriage.

Of course gays should be allowed to marry. The cocksuckers deserve to be just as unhappily married and messed up as the rest of us.

By the way, anyone seen my vicodin/viagra cocktail? Or did my bitch wife take it with her again to bone her boyfriend.

Your queerdom has not the answer there pinky.

68. Joe Melnick -
You might just be the biggest asshole around and a very uncreative one at that, if you had to take my post and mash it up with your hate. I VOTED FOR OBAMA... I think he's doing a much better job in the last 100 days than Bush has done it 8 years. If you think Bush is better than Obama, you are truly fucked up.

Leave other people's posts alone, you unimaginative loser.

Oh, and you're one to say "grow up people" - hypocrite.

In my personal opinion the extremists on both sides of this case are crazy. Yes, Miss California has the right to believe and speak out against gay marriage, and the people for gay marriage also have the right to speak out. But to sit there and rail against her for being Christian and saying that its all Christians fault is ridiculous. Calling her a "dumb bitch" and saying you want to kill her or whatever will do nothing, if anything its just going to cause her and other anti-gay marriage people to dig their heels in. Personally I am pro-gay marriage simply because I do not believe that Americans should exclude certain rights from other Americans because of their sexual orientation. This idea of "defending marriage" is quite silly as well because, as someone else stated, if Hugh Hefner married one of his 19-year-old blonde twins now, would you call that a sacred devoted marriage? If anything I would much rather see a commited gay couple be married then see another Eliot Spitzer get married. No I'm not saying all gay couples will be perfect but what I'm saying is that marriage is not exactly this sacred thing everyone talks about. You should believe in your own marriage enough that you don't judge your marriage by who else is getting married. If homosexuals were allowed to get married I would feel no less love or affection or happiness in my own marriage. I am Catholic (feel free to rag on me all you want) and I believe that the church should not be forced to recognize these marriages. But I personally don't see homosexuality as a sin any more than wearing a shirt made of two materials is sin (the same book that "condemns" homosexuality lists that as a sin as well.) And whoever mentioned marriage to 14 year old girls as a reason to be against gay marriage? Seriously? Those laws were made to protect the 14 year old girls, not "marriage."

Hey Cavy,

Reading comprehension must not be your thing. I used yours and other posts to prove a point. Miss California has the same opinion on gay marriage as Obama does. If you call her names and attack her viciously, why not say the same about your hero Obama.

Seriously, grow up.

There was another point to prove, Cavy, thanks for your help. People who voted for Obama are by and large humorless, condescending, self-righteous pricks. Or maybe that's just you.

@ amy

What does money and "rocket scientist don't make that much money" have to do with anything? I don't understand your logic. Or was that an attempt to be funny. Now, do YOU know whats a true story?
In response to "AND THEN BURN IN THE DEPTHS OF H E L L AND GETTING PINE CONES SHOVED UP YOUR ASS!!!!!!!! kidding" Wow, you really got me there, kid. Very christian of you. Gold star.
Just live and let live. We'd all be much happier if people weren't constantly trying to prove to eachother that their beliefs are more superior than others.

#82 Joe, You may want to do a bit of reading, regarding Obama's stance on civil union. And then go over what Miss Cali has said regarding the gay community. She actually had the audacity to put (all) gays in the same category as child molesters. If you think Obama and Miss Cali have anything in common, you are even stupider than I already think you are.

And you calling me a humorless, condescending, self-righteous prick cracks me up because that's exactly what I thought of your post. If you were really trying to be funny...you have failed miserably.

Oh....and....grow up.

How about replanting those butter beans you pull out of those hairy dark holes.
Recycling at its finest.

Then you can lobby for carbon credits under put a "Cap" in america "& Trade"

A contribution such as that is worth staying out of the closet.

Oy Vey.

If I remember correctly, when she originally answered the question, she said "no offense." How long before they strip her of the "Miss California" title?

And Joe, my husband is in the Military so NO, I don't think it was too funny the past 8 years with Bush in office.

I think she's auditioning to be Jons next brood sow.

I can't believe no one believes how hateful fags are. Everyone I've known has been extremely racists and hateful. They want the same rights as straight couples, but they don't want Ms. Prejean to have freedom of speech. You can't preach one constitutional right and ignore the others. If you look @ the biblical purpose of marriage, it's for procreation. Fags can't procreate on their own, therefore, in the eyes of God, the act of homosexuality is wrong.

Now, this is issue was voted on twice, I believe and you fags lost. Like one of the other posters on here said: move to a state that does allow it. You don't have to like the agenda of marriage is between and man and a woman and we don't have to like the fact you fuck each other in the ass. When push comes to shove though, and you keep pushing us, where going to start throwing fists and side walk stomping your asses until you're not gay anymore.

#90 BigJoe (what is it with "Joe's" today? lol)

I think your extreme anger might be masking something....

Seriously Cavy, what is it with Obama voters - absolutely everything has to come back to 'it's Bush's fault'. I would think your husband in the military would appreciate a commander in chief who respected them and their service, unlike the current occupant.

Now you need to both grow up and get over it. I doubt you find much of anything funny anyway. Except 'Darth Cheney' - that never gets old! LOL!

You are still humorless and condescending, but I won't go Perez Hilton on the rest of the comment. Unlike him I respect women and in fact, anyone who disagrees civilly with me. Your invectives and personal attacks based on Miss California's opinions put you out of that category.

Bye.

Thanks Joe.

Great summation for the wagon trail of fairy ass butt rapers on this site.

Well said.

#5 Yes, sweetheart, she is, because in the land of the free, she is allowed to speak and no one censors her. What you don't get is that there's no such thing as freedom from criticism. She's free to speak her mind, what little of it she has, and others of us are equally free to oppose it. That's how it works.

And for the "God hates gays" and the "Christians are hypocrites" groups, it doesn't matter a fuck if Jesus loved everyone but gays or not, or if God finds gays an abomination or not or whether marriage is even fully defined in the Bible. or whether it's really a sin or whether the believers are wasting their time with superstition or not. Because, while some of you may have missed it, the Bible is NOT the basis for our laws, and neither is the Quran or the Torah. It means nothing when it comes to this argument, because we do not, thankfully, live in a fundamentalist religious country like Saudi Arabia where you can stone people for religious transgressions or deny them their rights based on some mullah - or priest's -interpretations of an ancient book. You can use it to find personal salvation, as your own personal moral compass or to "prove" that your every little action has God's imprimatur, but outside of that you'll be SOL here. You cannot use it to deny, or to grant, anyone their civil rights and its writings, no matter how compelling or clear you find them to be, will carry no weight in a court of law -- which is where this will be decided.

It will NOT be decided in individual states by an unconstitutional popular vote, by the president's personal feelings, or by a council of churches. It will be decided on this basis alone: whether due process and equal protection and benefit under the law - as guaranteed by the 5th and 14th Amendments to the Constitution - is being denied to a group of people because of the gender of the person they have sex with.

@ bigjoe

if you're married, im sure you've fucked your wife in the ass.

if you're not married, i can see why.

if you're a child....this post makes complete sense.

a lot of heterosexual people that ive known are also racist and hateful. so thats irrelevant.

1 of my wife's brothers is gay. Great guy and I respect his right to choose that lifestyle. Does not mean I have to agree and approve of it. That is what the gay agenda is about. They do not just want people to respect their right, they want approval from you dammit. And they will try to demonize and intimidate you until they get it. Which is just as wrong as people who intimidate and demonize gays for their choice. Live and let live. But you don;t have to approve.

92. Joe Melnick

I'm done arguing with you - you've made up your mind about what kind of person I am and I have done the same to you. I like Obama and no matter how much that chaps your ass, I don't care....

Damn, you would think this is hairy hole Friday with all the fairies pitching a piss fit.....

#98

I've never heard of "hairy hole Friday" but you sure have!

Daddy-O ........the majority of our founders were NOT xtians, they were deists.......two completely different points of view. George Washington, Ben Franklin, Thomas Payne, James Madison, Thomas Jefferson, do I need to go on? ALL deist. And for those of you who are bound to argue............look it up.

#100, they were deists that attended Christian churches, many of them together. Look that up. E Pluribus Unum beotches.

Fuck Obama
Fuck Gays
Fuck Liberals
Fuck independents
Fuck Rosie O'donell
FUCK RichPort
Fuck Miss USA
FUCK you

Peace out!

@ 99.rainbow
No cavy, you can only relate with vaginal volcano Monday, by law.
Objection sustained invented and cornered the market on hairy hole Friday.

Nice try though.

Point is, this subject is an absolute joke, but I do realize humor does not reside in your harbor and gaydum lives on your transom.

Have a great day.

Still White--- don't beat around the bush, tells us how you really feel.

#103

Please...please..take your meds.

#104 GuyHolly

LOL!!!! I was thinking the same thing. XD

#64 Daddy-O, it would also help if YOU actually read the Declaration - and the Constitution - a little more closely. We are not guaranteed equal and unalienable rights in this country through the grace and "tolerance of Christianity". This country was not founded through holy war with England, so it makes no difference how religious you think each founding father was. Since Madison and Jefferson were determined to avoid the centuries of European religious wars over that same "tolerant " Christianity you credit for our rights, they would weep - and then slap the shit out of you - for writing that.

That really is the most ignorant - and arrogant - statement I've ever read here.

Your personal God may be Christian, but you will find no such stipulation anywhere in those documents, even though Jefferson felt he needed to call on God's existence in order to justify rebellion against divinely anointed king George III. The Age of Reason, not any church or prophet, gave rise to the concept of "inalienable rights" - they are a NATURAL law. That means because man has a mind, and can reason, he is born having these rights. They are inalienable, no outside force such as a government or king has the right to deny them, they cannot be taken away and we have a natural right to rebel if anyone tries to curtail them. You do not need to believe in God or any specific agency on earth to have them, and you will find no mention of them in the Christian Bible.

And luckily C.S. Lewis isn't in charge of anything in this country. I always wondered how he could completely miss the point of the parable of the prodigal son.

dude..............I assume you understand what a deist is, right? last time I checked (I majored in Theology in college) a deist was an individual that rejected the teachings of religions such as Christianity, Judaism and Islam. The reasons that these religions are rejected is because their "holy books" claim to know the word of God. Your argument of them going to church with the Christians is a only a half truth, therefore an invalid argument. These men were RAISED as Christians in England, but once they got over here and was given the right to worship how they wanted.....they abandoned Orthodox Christianity, because a deist doesn't believe in the bible, which is taught in church. Come up with a better argument..... Deist believe in a single God, they just don't believe that Christ is a messiah, that God "controls" what occurs here on earth, and organized religion. Also, ending your post with E Pluribus Unum makes no fucking sense. You do know that it means "Out of many, one"...right?

It would have been quite constructive if you clowns would have spent this much time and effort researching the candidates that were available in the last election.

If that would have been the case we would not have ended up with this travesty of on the job training for the current administration.

All clear, you can put your heads back in the sand now.

Cavy - you can like Obama all you want, I don't care who you voted for. Just realize that he has the same opinion on gay marriage as the person you were going off on. Does that not strike any chord in you at all? As I tried to show you above, replace her name with his and see if you still feel the same way.

I really can't make it any simpler for you. You demonize person A for their opinion, but love (and refuse to criticize) person B who has the same opinion. Liberal logic at its finest.

110. Joe Melnick

Sigh...go look up Obama's stance...it is INDEED different than Miss Cali's.

And I don't need you to "make it any simpler for me" - you really do have a superiority complex don't you? And you love telling people to "grow up". Hate to break this to you, but you aren't the end all be all of planet earth. This is only a GOSSIP site - why don't you take your opinions over to Harvard and have a gloriously stimulating debate, if you're so damn smart?

This website is getting too political for me. You just lost a reader.

#108 I think he's trying to reference "In God We Trust" which was added to the coinage during the Civil War to try to stay on God's good side.

#96 Dude, other than perhaps their parents, I don't know of one gay person who gives a rat's ass if anyone else "approves" of them. People like to be liked for themselves, but even if you're phenomenally needy it's foolish to expect it from people who don't know you or are against you from the start. Sure, there's activists and extremists on both sides, but do I hate all black people because I can't stand Al Sharpton? Everyone I know who's gay just wants the same rights as the rest of us, and not to be the target of bigoted attacks. They also don't want to live in a cave, only comiing out when disapproving people are not around. If you consider wanting those things "approval", well, then, yeah. Other than that, ignore them because they won't care.

@112 didn't you leave last week? funny, we still don't miss you.

Does the Miss USA board still require the contestants to be virgins? I wonder if Miss California saddlebacks. There is nothing hotter and more in line with the values of America than a saddlebacker with fake tits.

#107 - justifiable - Thank you for your comment. I used to teach the Declaration of Independence, and I have always had to reinforce the fact that Hobbes and Locke are more important to Jefferson than the bible or Christianity. It's surprising and refreshing to see that kind of comment on The Superficial of all places.

# 81 - meeeeeeeegan - I appreciate your comment as well. I am also a practicing Catholic, and feel that churches may have justifiable grounds for banning same-sex marriage, but that governments do not have that same right. I see this as an issue of the separation of church and state. As a civil issue, there is NO reason to deny same-sex marriage. All the reasons to ban same-sex marriage are fundamentally based either on theology about procreation or on cultural discrimination against homosexuals. A church has a right to define the "sanctity" of sex, but a government does not. And the government certainly has no right to condone cultural discrimination.

As a resident of California, I can attest to the massive ad campaign in support of Prop 8; out of state contributors (notably Focus on the Family) pumped money into false advertisements, stating same-sex marriage was the wedge that the gay community was going to use to teach homosexuality in schools. Prop 8 looked like it was going to fail until the month before the election, when these ads flooded our televisions, and there was a sudden surge of support for Prop 8.

I honestly think that Prop 8 would have failed if people had not started thinking about the measure as an educational issue as well. So even though Miss California's statements seem to agree with the results of last November's election, I still think a majority of Californians would disagree with the gist of her argument. That's only conjecture on my part... but other than that explanation, I can't understand why Prop 8 only did well in the polls AFTER the ad campaign started.

#107 - justifiable - Thank you for your comment. I used to teach the Declaration of Independence, and I have always had to reinforce the fact that Hobbes and Locke are more important to Jefferson than the bible or Christianity. It's surprising and refreshing to see that kind of comment on The Superficial of all places.

# 81 - meeeeeeeegan - I appreciate your comment as well. I am also a practicing Catholic, and feel that churches may have justifiable grounds for banning same-sex marriage, but that governments do not have that same right. I see this as an issue of the separation of church and state. As a civil issue, there is NO reason to deny same-sex marriage. All the reasons to ban same-sex marriage are fundamentally based either on theology about procreation or on cultural discrimination against homosexuals. A church has a right to define the "sanctity" of sex, but a government does not. And the government certainly has no right to condone cultural discrimination.

As a resident of California, I can attest to the massive ad campaign in support of Prop 8; out of state contributors (notably Focus on the Family) pumped money into false advertisements, stating same-sex marriage was the wedge that the gay community was going to use to teach homosexuality in schools. Prop 8 looked like it was going to fail until the month before the election, when these ads flooded our televisions, and there was a sudden surge of support for Prop 8.

I honestly think that Prop 8 would have failed if people had not started thinking about the measure as an educational issue as well. So even though Miss California's statements seem to agree with the results of last November's election, I still think a majority of Californians would disagree with the gist of her argument. That's only conjecture on my part... but other than that explanation, I can't understand why Prop 8 only did well in the polls AFTER the ad campaign started.

Sorry for the double post! Grr!

How funny it is that going AGAINST gay marriage is controversial. No! Being for gay marriage should be controversial.

Good for her on speaking the truth.

hahhaha @115- everything is fake about that whore- - there are plenty of WAY prettier girls out there who are so plastic

as @22 said

"This is so typical...what's really up/? Take the makeup off, the extensions /eye lashes out, stop starving yourself, and let's see her for who she really is. I thought God didn't like judgement....something tells me the wench has some skeletons in the closet,"

very well said,
very well said.

tell this bitch to go back home weve had enough of her.
used up- she looks like she is 40. i cant believe she is in her 20's.

Why the hell did they let Perez Hilton be a judge? He's a douche bag!

California approved Prop 8--good for them!

For one, in response to the reoccurring "freedom of speech" argument - Obviously there is freedom of speech in America. This is why we can say what we want without being tossed in jail. But to sit back and be silent after everyone's opinion? Not happening. Not only is conversation beneficial for human relations, it is how we communicate and evolve (mentally speaking)!

Also, clearly the girl has committed herself to this issue to extend her 15 minutes of fame. She is the present day Anita Bryant - but will probably be less effective. The National Organization for Marriage makes me sick. Why should anyone be devoting so much effort to preventing anyone from making a life commitment to the person they love? This are people purely devoting effort to perpetuating homophobia.

Also, plainly, marriage is a civil right. Excluding any couple from the right to marry is discrimination and is depriving them of their constitutional rights. As for the proposed solution I have heard from many religious people, that gays should be allowed "Civil Unions." This is also ridiculous. Civil unions constitute 300 legal benefits to joined couples, while marriage constitutes 1,049. How is that equal?

Look, you stupid, vapid, ignorant, malnourished, fake-boobied cunt, you entered a freaking beauty pageant. The entire point of spending your life going on a stage to be judged by other people is to look outside yourself to others for approval, to explore for yourself that eternally present meaning-of-life question, "What do I need to do to win everybody else's approval? How can I best be an innocuous and inoffensive bimbo so that I can win the approval of the largest number of people?" You lost the pageant, so you obviously failed to accomplish this lofty goal. How many stupid hos do you think lost pageants in the past because their views were a little too old hat for a changing society? YOU LOST, fair and square. Now go fade into the cancerous California sunset, and good riddance to you and your stupid bitch ways.

#36, you rock. Well said.
What I don't understand is that most of the people who I've spoken with who are against gay marriage also call out homosexuals for being promiscuous. That doesn't make any sense. You can't be against an action, and then against it's opposite action, unless you are just against gay people, period. And that's not what God would want. God created gay people, after all.

I'm against marriage, gay or straight. Contractually obligating yourself to another person is fucking stupid.

"123-tarts n cream" has rabies.

And #5, two very good points. It's hypocracy that political correctness is the standard for, of all things, a beauty pageant. It's hypocracy that, in a land that touts freedom, people would spit venom at her for exercising that.

And for the record, her's isn't "hate speech"--the only restriction on freedom of speech. What's hate speech is the 'bitch', 'cunt' & 'f*** Jesus" stuff coming from...guess who? Those who came to the party in the gay rights pink party bus waving the civil rights flag. Plus, I really thought they were supposed to have better wit than that.

So it's more than preserving the 'institution of marriage'--it's preserving the institution of civil rights, because the gay marriage comparisons to MLK & the civil rights movement are a CROCK OF SHIT.

When did we start caring what beauty pageant queens think?
I don't give a shit about what this waste of Maybelline thinks.
If you can call what she does "thinking"...

and @ 107, beautifully said. Wonderful.

ok. first and foremost. people need to stop bashing miss california for her beliefs. she has a right to them, just like everyone else. and I'm sorry if you don't believe that homosexuality is wrong. that is your opinion and belief and you are intitled to it. but don't go bashing christians like miss california for it. although how chrisitian she is considering she competed in a competition that objectifies the desires of the flesh I don't know. I just love it how everyone is perfectly fine with bashing on chrisitanity, but say one negative thing about homosexuality or islam or whatever and people insult you and get angry with you and bash you and attack you and call you "close minded" and so on. and I think that anyone who does that is a hypocrate. if we are supposed to be PC and repect everyones views and beliefs then christianity should be included. and I myself am a christian. and yes i believe homosexuality is a sin against God. it says so in the old testament in the book of leviticus and in the new testament in the book of Romans. now I had someone on here tell me how in levitcus they say before the thing about homosexuality that it says children who defy their parents should be stoned and the person who said this said (and I quote) "well then if thats true why aren't people stoning kids for defying their parents, nice selective religion you have there." first of all that person obviously never stepped into a church a day in his/her life. had he/she done so he/she would know that the book of leviticus and it's rules are part of the old covenant with God, which was ended when Jesus came to earth and sacrificed himself forming the new covenant, which does not include stoning people for their sins. but does include (because the book of Romans is in the the new testament, which is the new covenant) homosexuality being a sin and that we still have to follow the ten commandments. and also Christ teaches us to love each other no matter what we do or believe. hate the sin not the sinner. christians, true christians, don't hate gay people. we just don't approve of the sin they are living in. and if you don't like my beliefs and don't believe in them. fine. it's your choice. no one says you have to. all I ask is that you respect my beliefs and i'll show you the same in kind.

This woman did not win the Miss USA pageant.
She is trying to overshadow the woman who DID win.
Let us pay attention to the winner!
Miss North Carolina USA- KRISTEN DALTON is 2009's Miss USA !

Now let us show KRISTEN DALTON- MISS USA 2009, some respect, and stop caring about Miss California.

Damn liberal hypocrites! So, it's not OK for Miss CA to civilly voice her opinions but it's acceptable for Perez Hilton to call her a sexist, demeaning name?

Obviously, he asked that question hoping for a certain answer.

On the one hand, she needs get to quit her 15 minutes of fame now.

By the way, I'm atheist and I voted against Prop 8, but I hate how liberals are so self-righteous! They want the world to know how "open-minded" they are, yet they won't accept the beliefs of Christianity/more conservative voters.

She made no threat to gays nor did she say directly, "Don't let fags marry!" She stated her opinion calmly and sincerely. Leave her alone. Aren't there illegal immigrants you need to fight for or something?

Cavy: you called Miss C some very ignorant names, with a lot of anger and intolerance for what is the majority view. Let's recap, what you said about her:

a joke
I can't believe anyone exists hat is that stupid.
a fucking bigot!
bigoted, Bible thumping, racist, sexist hate monger

And you're telling me to grow up? Smarten up while you're at it, form coherent arguments and resist the slide into easy, crude personal attacks. You don't like her opinion, oppose it. And don't use all caps either, that's just rude.

I don't understand...
What does she want to protect marriage from?
It's not like hetero marriage has a super great track record in this country...

And #96, I don't know one honestly (not just playing around) gay person who feels that they "chose" to be gay. Every last one says it's how they were born.

Oooookay. So, since we are so up on sins, let's remember to not use birth control folks!! God doesn't want sex to be fun, unless you are squeezin' out some more pups in the process!

Good write up from Fish this time. Ignorant bigoted slut.

@buttmonkey

Finally someone said it. All the people that believe marriage is between a man and a woman for the sole purpose of procreation, then no birth control and no condoms, right?!!!! Since we are so fixed on keeping ideals from the past, years and years ago, and not wanting to educate ourselves as an evolving human race, lets not forget that back in the day they didn't have any means of birth control. Only to procreate.

Why ask the question (Perez) if you really do not want to hear what Carrie has to say. I mean all she did was answer a question, in her opinion, I do not think that is fair no matter what the question is....

What we can't disagree now?

Does anyone else suspect the blogger on this site is really Perez Hilton? WTF?? What happened to ass and titties? Why are you clowns debating gay marriage?

So many questions. Good thing I won't be bothering to check back on the lame responses. My head is going to exlode from the ridiculousness of this...

Cleanup on aisle 138.

Like I give a crap what any bimbo pageant thinks about this issue or any celebrity, what a waste of time! Make up your own mind about it. However, it is queer, against nature, don't let anyone fool you. A vocal minority. .. It will never be normal, never accepted en masse. Sorry moes, nature can't lie. Hey, where are the babes?

Uh...

Are people passionate about this issue or what? So many comments.

I'm a Christian and I have never understood why so many people are against gay marriage. That makes less than no sense to me. As long as religious institutions are allowed to retain the right to marry and not marry whoever they want, then there is no reason to be up in arms about gay marriage.

Some people here say things like "Jesus would be against gay marriage". I don't think so. Gay marriage does not force anything upon a church. It doesn't alter the definition of marriage. It gives anyone the legal opportunity to marry someone. It is not a religious issue. It should not be a controversial issue. It is not a problem. Only in America could people get so up in arms about something so clearly pointless.

#141, So, I want to have 2 wives, ok? Or 4. Or like the Saudi, marry an 8 year old, that ok? Marry my dog or horse, not a problem right? What a farce. Don't piss in the marriage sink so Bruce & Steve can feel slighty better about themselves. Testosterone on the earth will never allow this issue to happen dude. Take what's behind the civil union curtain and quietly go away.

132. Joe Melnick

Dude, I never told YOU to grow up...I was commenting that you can't fucking make one post without telling EVERYONE to GROW UP! YOUR words NOT mine.

You are way too obsessed with my posts and opinions. You are getting really really weird. I stand by my posts, I don't give a shit what you think, other than that I think it's getting really strange that you are so obsessed with what I write on here...this is just a gossip site...chill out. I'm not going to tell you to GROW UP as you love to tell me and everyone else, but, at this point, I am going to tell you to get some professional help!

Holy fuck, I can't believe how stupid people can be.

Adults can give EDUCATED CONSENT to being married/having sex and children/animals cannot give consent.

Heterosexual couples get all the benefits of marriage (inheritance laws for example) and homosexuals do not benefit from this with civil unions. Also many civil unions are not recognized outside of the country/state. On top of that, the reason why we do not have polygamy as a viable option for marriage in the West completely has to do with the system of government running now and why it would become increasingly difficult to regulate those benefits when multiple people become involved. Also, it should be pointed out that animals do not benefit from marriage.

Marriage is not a church based union. You do not have to be married under the great big sky daddy. Why should it matter what religious figures think?

And further more, why do you give a rat's ass about what other people do? It doesn't make marriage any less "sacred". Shame on the homosexuals for wanting to commit to a stable monogamous relationship and to provide a secure and stable family environment for their children. Shame on them!

Thank goodness she is making such a big deal about this. I hope the media shines their bright lights on her so we can really expose the hate.

tldr; Gays should be allowed to marry and anyone who thinks otherwise is a dick.

the gays are coming for your marriage, bitch. your marriage is toast mother fucking fake titty whore!
maybe you should be worrying about protecting your marriage from a bigger plague than the gays: divorce.

@144 ... thank you.

Hahahahah... that's the fucking dumbest argument on the earth. OH YEAH?? WHY CAN'T DOGS AND CATS AND PEOPLE GET MARRIED THEN? WHY CAN'T I MARRY MY MOM AND DAD AND BROTHER ALL AT ONCE??

Hahahahahah... are you so fucking retarded?

It's exactly the same rules as it's always been. Regular plain ol' two people over the age of consent meet and fall in love and want to get married and maybe start a family. If you're straight, that'll be someone of the opposite sex, if you're gay it'll be someone of the same sex. But other than that, it's EXACTLY the same, not some like.. "agenda" or "threat."

(what is it with right wing and that word anyway? AGENDA. I'll tell you what's on the homosexual "agenda," it's probably get up, go to work, come home, eat dinner, go to sleep. OH NO SAVE ME JEBUS!)

Right, so where do all the animals and incest and wierd shit, when does that factor in exaclty? Trust me, plenty of straight people are into some nasty ass strange shit, and as far as I know, R.Kelly can still get married! That's not the issue. If you don't like the idea of two guys having sex, then don't do. I'll tell you, I see nasty-ass ugly fat people every day and thinking of them EVER having sex makes me shiver in disgust, but it's not really my business is it?

That's why it's PRIVATE, and done behind a closed door. Duh.

I don't know, maybe you never passed first grade? Trying to figure this out here.

I think that as bad as people want to accuse her of being a media whore they are making her into a media sensation. It is funny how people who do not understand Christianity or Jesus are so quick to point out what Jesus wants. I wish people would just disagree with her stance without grasping for something to try to attack her character.

Hey # 146; Whose breaking the news to Utah that now it's only two people in a marriage? Or Kentucky that you can't marry your kin? Goofball. It's funny how "enlightened and liberal people" are just as harsh when you don't agree with them. Just change the frickin laws to protect civil unions. Queer marriage will never be the same as normal but they should get the same rights thru unions absolutely. Let's split the country, the feys & supporters get California and NY and the non-queers the heartland- that will work!

#142 Oh for God's sake, do you think this argument works for anything - except to show your abysmal ignorance? Having more than one spouse is bigamy, WHICH IS ILLEGAL - hetero people can't do it NOW, so why will that change? If you're straight, you can't marry a minor NOW, it's illegal. You also can't marry a horse, they can't sign a legal contract (so sorry to disapoint your passion for Mr. Ed). Marriage between consenting adults - with no existing prior commitments - is a civil contract and is LEGAL. And the right to enter into that very same contract with all legal benefits is what gay people want as well.

If you can't do any better than this as an argument, please take your own advice and quietly go away. Not to censor you, but to save yourself further embarassment.

#144 It's not "educated (or informed) consent" that's the point here - that's actually the yardstick used to determine mental impairment. Quite simply, animals aren't citizens, unlike gay humans. Animals can't vote or enter into a contract, and have no civil rights. Minors/those below the state's age of consent also can't enter into a legal contract.

If your reason or judgment is possibly impaired, you have to meet the consent criteria before you can marry. If you're stinking rich and have full-blown dementia or Alzheimer's, for instance, you're protected by this from anyone trying to marry you to get your money.

#148 ... I'm from "the heartland" and I was brought up to respect all people. I'm straight and Christian and I'd never call people names like 'fey' or 'queer' like you did, it's cruel and impolite and I'd never want anyone to do that to me. So don't come here, you wouldn't feel comfortable.

Wow by the logic of this ass women who have had breast cancer and got implants can no longer call themselves Christians. You just lost me as a reader Superficial.

It’s amazing that Carrie Prejean is labeled by the Miss USA organization as “divisive and polarizing” which is only true if you learned your morals from Sodom and Gomorrah. The homosexual agenda is supposed to promote tolerance and anti-hate but they are filled with the most intolerant and most hateful hypocritical people. Homosexuality is “divisive and polarizing” and it’s getting worse and worse. “After the Ball” told us we’d get used to the stench of the homosexual camel after it’s nose was stuck in the tent long enough but the stench is getting worse and worse.

The attacks on Prejean is another example of how filthy and ugly liberals always get. Assassinate the character of someone because they stand-up for time-honored traditional values. Liberalism will bash the conservative about the head and face until they will shut-up from the profuse beating. It’s standard

be sure: WASHINGTON D.C. that is, folks!!

#148 I hate to break it to you, but as an "enlightened liberal" I need to inform you that bigamy is also illegal in Utah - as well as the rest of the 49 states.
Utah doesn't issue any marriage licenses for wives 2, 3, 4 etc., nor can they legally file as "married" on their state returns or 1040's for the benefits Plural marriage is a church issue, and those marriages are not legalized by either the state or the Federal government. The fact that the Mormon-heavy state government runs away rather than prosecute child abuse in plural underage marriages is a disgrace. They also don't want to deal with welfare fraud, which is your tax dollars being used to support the multiple offspring of some guy's harem of wives - who claim not to know the whereabouts of the father, yet manage to still have more of his children like clockwork. Think that's fair and right? I don't.

Kentucky won't recognize a marriage to your first cousin, even if you marry in another state. 26 states also have this stipulation. Since this applies to a man and a woman, a "normal" marriage (your term), I fail to see how this relates to denying gay marriage. The law exists to reduce the drastic genetic consequences of inbreeding - since two gay people can't breed with each other, how is this relevant? If you feel your civil rights as cousins aren't being represented, seek redress in the courts. But first look up "red herring". You'll find it listed under "irrelevancies".

"Separate yet equal" didn't work as a defense for segregation, because that distinction meant there were really two classes of citizens - and that is NOT what America is all about. Here, all are supposed to be equal, no different under the law. So why should this argument be extended to civil unions, which aren't even close to being the same as legal marriage? Cut the crap and expand the definition of legal marriage to include same gender so we all have the same rights. It won't "devalue" your hetero union, any more than women getting the vote devalued a right traditionally held by men. Nor will it have an impact in how any religious institution continues to define or perform it.

#152
Oh boo effing hoo, so everyone who disagrees should just shut up when gays are called "an abomination" and all sorts of nasty names? I'm not Gandhi, lady, and neither are you from reading your post. "Stench" huh? I didn't get my morals from Sodom and Gomorrah, but I have a suspicion that's where you learned your manners. Where you got your education is anyone's guess but you really depend on a double standard to function, don't you?
Listen, no one with a brain is telling Prejean to STFU. And having fake boobs doesn't make her any less of a Christian. She has a right to speak her mind as an individual. But the pageant may not want to sponsor her and that's theirs -she's their employee. They're footing the bill and they may see her political activism as a betrayal of their agenda -- that is to promote the state of CA They'd probably feel the same way if she were promoting gay marriage or if she'd posed for naked photos.
Some people feel her opinion is bigoted and they'll damn well stand up and say so if they feel that way - and she's not a protected species just because she claims the Bible backs her up. Some people are abusive and nasty - not nice, but so what? There's no law out there that says if you're a Christian you're somehow protected from any fallout that results from your going forth and judging others. Get off your damn high horse lady. If you decide it's your purpose in life to dish it out, be prepared to take it as well. Check out any playground because THAT'S what's standard in this country.

Everyone cries about freedom of speech and personal rights...

until someone voices an opposing viewpoint.

Ms. California is expressing her viewpoint, which many Californians agree with if you look at the last election.

So all you supposedly open minded people attack not only her, but her religious beliefs.

You don't see the hypocrisy?

To the guy who writes this blog:
You are funny, and most of your points make you sound non-gay. But your over the top attack on this girl for voicing her opinion makes me think you like male ass.

#156 No, I don't see the hypocrisy.

Open minded means you're receptive to someone who's making an argument - you let the other person have their say and listen to them. You don't reject it just because it's different. You think about their argument and see if, in your opinion, it has merit.

It doesn't mean mutely tolerating intolerance . It doesn't mean lying in order to be polite. It DOESN'T mean rolling over and playing dead so as not to offend anyone who's religious and uses that religion as an excuse to deny others their rights. No one is saying she has no right to believe what she believes. Supporting her right to speak and agreeing with her speech are two very different things. Can you see the difference?

Most people in this country don't have a problem condemning Osama and Al Quada fundamentalists for their religious beliefs when they use them to attack this country. Do you? So because Miss CA is a Christian, should she should get a pass for using the Bible as a reason to deny rights to people? EPIC FAIL TO THAT. Talk about hypocrisy - if some American mullah was on YouTube demanding a fatwa against Prejean for wearing a bikini and having her face uncovered, I have a feeling you'd be screaming for him to be yanked off the net.

Go ahead and say the Bible says this that or the other - that isn't how we make laws in this country, but you certainly have every right to say it. But be prepared for a mighty rebuttal - not for your beliefs in and of themselves, but for how you employ them; to what end you use them to work against others.

You can still have a heart for God beneath fake tits. That's not the biggest hypocrasy in this story. The biggest hypocrasy is the Gay community and their supporters constantly whining about intolerance while demonizing anyone who disagrees with them. But then, the majority of the country agrees with Miss USA; if the butt-lovers don't screech loud enough they might not scare anyone away from disagreeing with them.

#159 Are you one of the people who claims to have a heart for God? I really can't tell here from your non-demonic use of "butt-lovers" but then I probably missed it under that layer of hypoCRISY.

Why is a gay guy judging a beauty pagent? Are deaf people allowed to critique musicians?

"I think regardless of our opinions, we just need to respect each other when we disagree. It's all about respect."

She says as she goes to campaign against gay marriage. Ah, the irony.

Yes, let's have a strong opinion and fight against something that will never affect us, just so we can keep other people from being happy.

“You can still have a heart for God beneath fake tits. That's not the biggest hypocrasy in this story. The biggest hypocrasy is the Gay community and their supporters constantly whining about intolerance while demonizing anyone who disagrees with them. But then, the majority of the country agrees with Miss USA; if the butt-lovers don't screech loud enough they might not scare anyone away from disagreeing with them.”

Why would any one defend some one who wants their rights taken away? Is it wrong for a black man (who wants racial equality), to demonize some one in the KKK? Or a woman who is working to express her disgust at some one who is trying to pass legislation to make sure she can’t work? No one should be tolerant of prejudice.

“Why is a gay guy judging a beauty pagent? Are deaf people allowed to critique musicians?”

That is stupid logic. Just because some one is gay does not mean they can’t have a valid view point on the beauty of the opposite gender. In some instances it means you can be objective, you aren’t blinded by attraction.

. . . because you're stupid mindless PC nigger-lovers.

I don't give a damn about gay marriage. I do care whether or not you're angry and upset though, and calling you nigger-lovers is sure to make the PC libtard sheepshit for brains set angry.

#164 You lose again, Ann Coulter. But thank you for so doing such a great job representing the kneejerk, intolerant, illogical reactionary point of view. Now run along, you don't want to be late for that book burning!

She knew people would react like this (she must have done), but if this is truly her opinion, then I respect her for it.

I'm not a Christian but I do believe that a TRUE marriage is between a man and a woman... anything else is not a marriage to me. But hey thats just my opinion.

Also I dont believe that gays should be allowed to adopt other peoples children- its just not a healthy environment for the child to be in, being raised in a home where "being gay" is seen as a "normality" and studys show that (as you would expect) the children have a higher likelihood of following in the footsteps of their "parents". It may sound bizarre but it is very true.

I'm not against gay marriage but it seems much more of a "contract", it doesnt seem real to me at all. Everyone is entitled to happiness, but when children are put in jeopardy because of it thats when you have to worry and draw a line.

As for this contestant, at least she was honest.

The biggest problem with the whole gay marriage debate is the propensity to get into a religious argument. Is this country not based on SEPARATION of church and state. All this vapid woman can say is her reasons are based on bibilcal reasons. Okay, so what do your bibilical reasons have to do with people wanting to be able to share health insurance benefits? A small part of marriage is religious. The contract of marriage is a legal binding contract. You can choose or not choose to have a religious ceremony. Any religion has the right to deny marrying homosexuals and the government could not do anything to them. Just as I could legally use peyote if I were a member of the Native American church but since I am not a member it would be an illegal act. The question is should the government deny two people the right to share in the same legal benefits because they are homosexual? Religion should not even enter the argument.
Now would Jesus Christ be upset at the gay marriage debate. I am going out on a limb here and saying probably not. I doubt he would really care that two homsexuals want to enter a legal union and share health care and other benefits. He would probably be more disgusted at the greedy bastards who run the health insurance companies that play god everyday. He would also probably worry about extremist muslim terrorist groups willing to kill billions of people for their pointless jihad. Homosexuality is not a new issue so I doubt this argument will phase him. Perhaps the best comment on this board was the one requesting us to ignore this pathetic publicity hound and focus on the girl who actually won the competition. That is if you really care about competitions based on nothing more than a socially constructed ideology of beauty and owned by the biggest douchebag in the country Donald Trump.

166. DeeDee While I believe you have every right to your own opinion, I think it is very sad that you don't think gay couples should be allowed to adopt. To me that sounds like you think Male/Female union adoptions are perfect and never end in tragedy. Everyone is different and everyone has the capacity to be good or evil - I can't believe you lump an entire group of people as being "bad". Look at all the horrible things you hear in the news about children being hurt...it's usually by hetero parents and other family members. I wonder why you automatically assume gays are bad for adoption. I'm a straight female and I will never understand people's obsessions with what others do in their own bedrooms - do you care that much what heteros do in the bedroom too? I say, if I'm not ever going to sleep with them (insert whomever) why should it bother me?

Organized Religion does nothing but plant the seed of hate. I'm all for faith and believing in a higher power, but when it gets twisted into judging others and feeling "holier than thou" I can't understand the hate.

#166 No, DeeDee, it's not "true" about adopted kids "learning" to be gay in a gay "unhealthy" environment, and there's NO studies out there that back you up. It IS bizarre, you bet, because it's NOT true.
Use your head - if that were the case "as you'd expect", kids would "learn" to be heterosexual from their straight parents and there'd be no gay people out there. It doesn't work that way because sexual orientation isn't "learned behavior" so you don't follow in anyone's "footsteps". Gay isn't picked up by watching your parents.
Kids that grow up in foster care who aren't adopted at an early age don't have the best life. You'd deny them a shot at a loving home because of shit you either just made up, or that someone told you and you swallowed whole because it sounded like it made sense. What about single parent fanilies? What have you got to say about them?
What will be harder for kids in gay parent families will be dealing with the sort of crapola you just came out with here as "facts".

I got ya studies right here:
Bailey, J. M., Bobrow, D., Wolfe, M., & Mikach, S. (1995). Sexual orientation of adult sons of gay fathers. Developmental Psychology, 31, 124-129.

The sexual development of children of gay and lesbian parents is interesting for both scientific and social reasons. The present study is the largest to date to focus on the sexual orientation of adult sons of gay men. From advertisements in gay publications, 55 gay or bisexual men were recruited [to the study] who reported on 82 sons at least 17 years of age. More than 90% of sons whose sexual orientations could be rated were heterosexual. Furthermore, gay and heterosexual sons did not differ on potentially relevant variables such as the length of time they had lived with their fathers. Results suggest that any environmental influence of gay fathers on their sons' sexual orientation is not large.
(PsycINFO Database Record. Copyright © 2002 by the American Psychological Association. All rights reserved.)

Golombok, S., & Tasker, F. (1996). Do parents influence the sexual orientation of their children? Findings from a longitudinal study of lesbian families. Developmental Psychology, 32, 3-11.

Findings are presented of a longitudinal study of the sexual orientation of adults who had been raised as children in lesbian families. Twenty-five children of lesbian mothers and a control group of 21 children of heterosexual single mothers were first seen at age 9.5 years on average, and again at age 23.5 years on average. Standardized interviews were used to obtain data on sexual orientation from the young adults in the follow-up study and on family characteristics and children's gender role behavior from the mothers and their children in the initial study. Although those from lesbian families were more likely to explore same-sex relationships, particularly if their childhood family environment was characterized by an openness and acceptance of lesbian and gay relationships, the large majority of children who grew up in lesbian families identified as heterosexual.
(PsycINFO Database Record. Copyright © 2002 by the American Psychological Association. All rights reserved.)

#167 You'd actually have to sit down and explain homosexuality and sexual orientation to Jesus. In his time, there was no such concept. Everyone then assumed all men were heterosexual, but got up to debauched sexual behavior at times and were capable of trying out many different things and acts - boys, men, prostitutes, whatever. Then afterwards they'd just naturally return to sleeping with women. Anyone who indulged in illicit acts before marriage or strayed after it was a de facto "fornicator". This also explains why "homosexual" as a word doesn't appear in any Biblical translation until well after 1800. Nowadays we know a lot more about human sexual behavior and that sexual orientation isn't a matter of choice. What you think about common or garden variety fornication is between you and your church.

About gay marriage, I think he'd take a look at how our legal system is structured and say, "render unto Caesar" - because he'd see that his input would rightly make not one whit of difference in a civil arena.

Would you share your peyote (if you had some) with Jesus, is what I want to know!

lol. you must be a cocksucking gay yourself. of course gay marriage is funny and ridiculous!

None of this will matter anyway when the Middle East religious revolution hits our shores. Christians and homos will be first in line to convert or face la musica. Chow bitches!

#171 Sorry to disappoint you, but no. But since you're so threatened by this issue, Georgie Boy, that must mean YOU'RE a latent homo! Hey, it's your logic, not mine. Just remember to close your eyes and go down occasionally on whatever poor girl you're forcing yourself to nail and no one will ever know, stud.

i was with you until the last paragraph. the pagent, which votes partly on the best body, and some sense of cleanliness (no playboy, no prior marriages) allows fake bodies to compete? that's hypocracy, and you let it slide and just pick on her.

#174 I think it's menat to be ironic and sarcastic on her hypocrisy, not the pageants. She's someone with fake boobs who's defending traditonal marraige on the grounds that it's natural and Biblical, while the Bible wouldn't approve of implants or bikinis. It's bitchy but it doesn't have anything to do with anything becuz we're all hypocrites at times. I don't think implants have anything to do with being Christian and I think Perez is a bitch. What I object to was that "no offense" thing and how she's so surprised that everyone's so upset. Bull. Shit. She comes right out and says it's a huge issue, so that "oh my look what I've done" fake-o surprise doesn't cut it with me. If you have a point of view that you know will hurt or offend people either STFU or stick up for it, but don't go "no offense" becuz that's fake and you know it. too I don't think she lost becuz of that ? and she's not losing gracefully either so I think she deserves to be picked on for that. Since when does one judges vote (Perez) on one answer mean you lose a pageant? Shes a bad loser and he winner has class becuz she's not calling her on this or trying to get her off teh stage either. My opinion for what its worth.

Why do we care so much over what this stupid [barbie] says? She's in a BEAUTY pageant for a reason. This isn't Obama saying this nor is it anyone else who's in politics or the likes that actually matters and has a say in our laws a.k.a whether or not they pass.

Get over it, let her dumbass continue "existing" in our world and getting by on just her looks.

Carrie Prejean is PORNY looking.

Nice she spoke her mind, but I think it's silly that a bikini bimbo is taking things this far. It's like Sarah Palin or something.

@121 - Why does Perez Hilton exist? He even named himself after a worthless nothing.

@167 - Yeah. Reject on personal religous level. As a U.S. citizen, accept Liberty or join the God Damned Taliban.
Donald Trump RULZ though. RULZ ALL.

This lady is hot, even with the fake mams. =D I'll take her and Heidi Montag both at once, thank you very much.

GOOD FOR HER! LEAVE HER ALONE!

GOOD FOR HER! LEAVE HER ALONE!

the bible continues to be the easiest way to suppress, persecute, condemn, and kill human beings. last time someone else tried to impose his idea of a God's will, that perfect, clean world, it was called the holocaust. so you're "pro-life" but not "pro-living"... sounds a bit hypocritical to me.

I don't get worked up over gay marraige. There is a basic and insurmountable support growing for it.

Against gay marriage = the old

For gay marriage = the young

Give it 20 years. We'll see it nationwide. The Math is There. Sure, there will be batlles along the way. But it's coming.

Funny thing is, this bitch's Christian college that she currently attends almost lost their accreditation a couple years ago.... hmmmm.... so she MUST have been receiving such a good education

#8 Amy
What if it were my fucked up opinion that I don't "agree" with men fucking women up the ass? Or maybe I think blow jobs are not what God intended for the penis. Maybe I think men who prefer fucking female ass to pussy or who really love getting a blow job are denying God's plan and are not morally fit to be married. With what 2 consenting adults do in a bedroom that harms no one, what is there really to "agree" or "disagree" with? Should ANYBODY really have to be subjected to this kind of thinking? Please shut the fuck up.

#27 mikeock
Nobody's pushing for gay marriage in the church. Read up on the issue before issuing your inflammatory statements. Read #167. I'm surprised you didn't ask us if we thought it was already for a guy to marry his fucking cat. But you were thinking about it, weren't you?