Nov 16 2008Samantha Ronson tells PETA about itself

You know, even though I don't really like her, she's right. Those people at PETA are not only wrong to put other animals before humans, but are doing so through violence. They're violating the concept of free speech.

stupid people should shut the fuck up.

FIRST!!

Does sam know how these companys abtain there fur??? ITs inhumane! Some places skin poor animals alive and then toss there bloody half alive bodys to the side... Get a grip Sam. Do some research ...

@ 3, no loser, you are NOT first, you are THIRD. What is up with these losers in here and their "first" bullshit. Don't they have something more important to do? Probably not...they're probably overweight, computer nerds eating cold pizza and "diet" soda, thinking that just because they drink unsugared drinks their fat ass will lose weight. I'm so sick of them!!! Get a fucking life!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That said, Samantha is mad because PETA through flour at Lindsey? She should be happy, maybe PETA is just hinting at the fact she needs to eat something because she's anorexic...that or they knew that they would get good pictures of Lindsey sniffing the flour thinking it's coke.

I am a PETA supporter, and she is right to an extent. They should not be throwing anything at anyone. But unfortunately there are extremists in every society, and those crazy stories are the only people hear. What they don't hear is all of the wonderful accomplishments that PETA and other animal rights have done, by saving millions of animals from cruelty each year. The best thing that any animal rights advocate can do, is to educate people.
Now que the idiotic anti-animal rights people that think its cool to wear fur, and think PETA are just a bunch of left -wing nuts.
Let me tell you about fur- 50% of the worlds fur comes from CHINA where there NO regulations on how the animal (often dogs and cats) are killed. I have seen video footage that will make you cry. Dogs skinned alive, picking up their heads while looking into the camera. Now please think again before bash someone who just wants to help these defensless animals that HAVE NO RIGHTS, we take them from them.
I urge to look at this video, and then really think twice before slamming someone who is trying to help them:
http://www.peta.org/feat/ChineseFurFarms/index.asp

Ahh you see, chivalry comes in all gender!!!

I don't like the actions of peta or any animal activist for that matter.
In the UK Animal activist dug up the body of the mother-in-law of one of the executives at a research centre, Huntingdon Life Sciences, and wouldn't say where the body was centre closed down.

They still haven't said where the body is as far as I'm aware.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2006/may/12/animalwelfare.topstories3
They think their crusade is so just that they can do whatever they want.

Also I've seen a dog attack another dog to defend a human Samantha.
It's not uncommon for an animal to attack another to defend a human

The point here is that some PETA advocates were so rude by throwing flour at Lindsay, and that is not the proper way to express freedom of speech. We understand PETA's wish to stop violence against animals, but some are, apparently, becoming violent animals themselves. Samantha not only raised some points; she was damn right about a lot of things. Respect begets respect.

HAHAHAHA..... the whole idea of Lindsay getting floured down is so hilarious!!!

Regardless of whether PETA crossed the line or not... ... when celebrities wear fur coats and start posing away in front of cameras... they are advocating and promoting real fur clothes!!!
And they themselves know it too well !!!! Hah... they are not dumb!

I am in no way associated with PETA, but, all I know is, it is inhumane to wear real fur. And sometimes desperate times call for desperate measures.

SO STOP WHINING YOU IDIOT, AND STOP ADVERTISING REAL FUR!

well put e-rock.

Anon, well done on tarring everyone with the same brush. As e-rock said, these people are in the minority, there are many people out there doing good work.

Jenny - you know its really very annoying that people assume that people fighting for animal rights are putting animals before human. Big and inaccurate assumption.

I agree that throwing flour at someone wearing fur is idiotic.
I think some of PETA's actions are idiotic.

I'm not for PETA.. I'm for the ethical treatment of every living being.

But before you make some dumbass (typical superficial comments) comment here

Go to this w w w . f u r i s d e a d . c o m

Have the balls to watch it
Don't pretend you did and be a little sissy bitch
Watch it
Watch the videos
With Sound and All
See for yourselves how we get fur

Then make your dumbass (typical superficial reader) comment here.

Till then.. STFU

And I love that she mentions her dog
Most fur (including P Diddy's line, etc) Are made with Dog and Cat fur.

Dogs.
Pets
With collars still on
Someone's dog that's gone missing.

Don't be dumb
Just go look

Then come back and make an educated comment
Understand both sides first.

w w w . f u r i s d e a d . c o m

It takes 5 mins to watch just ONE of those videos
Let's see if you can actually sit through it.

I doubt it.

LOL
I wanna see the pictures of this.

flour in the coat won't bother her anyway. she'll just steal herself a new one.

I dunno..I just read this and all I got was: 1) Sam was pissed that someone besides her nailed Lindsay and 2) She hates the girl because she's vegetarian, not vag-itarian. *Shrugs*

@Samantha Ronsan
"p.s. when was the last time you saw an animal attack one of its own in defense of a human? hmmmmm..... that's one to grow on!"--Samantha Ronsan

The amount of stupid in that sentence knows no bounds. DOGS, cats, monkeys, etc. have been known to do this kind of thing often. Please do the world a favor and do something significant with your life before you open your trap to the gaping whole that is your brain. k. Thanx

Yours truly,
The world

Sam is biting the hand that feeds her. PETA is there to protect critters like her.

is it bad that i would seize any opportunity to throw something at lindsay lohan? if she were holding a cat, i'd throw something at her and claim i thought she was wearing a muff (i'd dodge the cat of course)

my biggest issue with peta is the hypocrisy. did you know that the group's founder takes insulin for her diabetes when she claims not to imbibe any animal products at all? in case you didn't know, insulin comes from animals. also, they claim that owning pets is "slavery." i think if they cut the extremism, they'd be a lot more tolerable.

but please continue to throw stuff at lindsay.

Do you think Samantha looks like her dog? Or, does her dog look like her?

#11 michelle.

I said I don't like the actions of these groups.
They might be doing the right thing but in the wrong way.
Their actions are wrong and they're hiding behind their cause to justify themselves .
Then someone like you comes along.
Someone who has ago at the people who says its wrong and jumps to almighty conclusions that we think everyone in peta and other groups are full off people like these extremist.

You sort of people try to convince everyone it's only a hand full off people (ignoring it was hundreds in the link I gave) and have no links or nothing to do with these saintly protectors of these wonderful creatures.

You're wrong. They aren't a small minority. Their actions aren't minor and you should spend your time finding these idiots in your organisations and getting rid off them instead of burying your head in the sand..
I bet you wont because they're doing what you won't.

You act like we don't agree with their actions so why does everyone think we're linked to them. Maybe the giant peta banner they carry is an indication.

@4: Yeah the way they day is inhuman... because THEY AREN'T FUCKING HUMANS, THEY ARE ANIMALS! they don't have the rights of a human because:
1. They don't have enough reasoning intelligence to understand it and apply it.
2. They are wild beings that commit the meanest things if you look at it from the human side: cannibal komodo dragons, lions, spiders, dogs. Dolphins killing just for fun... it's proven, dolphins kill baby dolphins for the fun of it!

"For the last 17 years or so, marine biologists have begun paying a great deal of attention to dead baby dolphins and porpoises of all ages washing up ashore, and we quote, 'mangled in unexpected ways.'

The discovery that Bottlenose Dolphins were occasionally viciously reconfiguring their own children wasn't really all that much of a big deal. Humans are the only species on the planet that actually gives even a tiny shit about infanticide. It was what the dolphins were doing to the porpoises that entered the domain of the 'seriously fucked-up'.

Thirteen-foot male Bottlenose Dolphins were hunting down porpoises, beating to death and then playing with their corpses, all for no readily apparent reason. At the time of this writing, the majority opinion of the marine science community was that this breathtakingly savage interspecies homicide is for--and this is Science, here--shits 'n' giggles.

Reports of ludicrously sexually aggressive dolphins attempting to rape human women abound from all over the globe. And in 1994, a male Bottlenose off the coast of San Paolo, Brazil, that was noted to be fond of female human swimmers attacked a pair of human males that the dolphin apparently considered to be competition ... and killed one of them."
http://www.cracked.com/article_15853_6-cutest-animals-that-can-still-destroy-you.html

@6: I've watched the video and now I understand that what PETA followers get wrong is supposing the animals have human feelings and intelligence and therefore are suffering in a way a human would. Although I really think that there are more civilized ways to kill animals.

@11: PETA itself states that:
"yet in The Dark Knight, he was punching out dogs left and right. Sure, it was self-defense, but doesn't the man with the James Bond gadgets know anything about peanut butter treats and deflecting devices?"

They removed Batman from #1 of their "Animal-Friendly Superheroes List" because he fights with dogs in The Dark Night.... that made PETA really, really mad, but they didn't even care about all the scenes in which Batman is fighting with humans, and making humans suffer, even killing them... no, they don't think about it, they think about those poor dogs!. LESSON: It's okay to kill humans but leave those innocent dogs that were trying to kill you alone.
http://blog.peta.org/archives/2008/07/batman_beats_do.php

@Samson: Okay, I'd like to see where all your dolphin reports come from. And did you ever stop to think that maybe there is a reason and scientists and marine biologist have yet to figure out why the hell they're doing it? BELIEVE OR NOT: HUMANS DO NOT KNOW EVERYTHING. We are an arrogant species that wants to control *everything* and most of us don't give a shit how we do it. And I'm sorry, it doesn't require intelligence of any kind to know you're suffering and miserable. Why don't you start watching some of Animal Planet's Animal Cops, hmm? Look at all the dogs and cats and animals that have been left behind, neglected, beat, abused and all can still rebound and trust humans. Find a human that can do that without years of therapy. Animals may be less intelligent, but they sure as hell are the higher species.

I totally agree with Sam. I'm a PETA supporter but I'm never impressed by actions like these....there's so many ways to educate people and this is clearly not it.... as we have seen in the human world, fighting violence with violence does not work....I assume this goes for defending animals too....

#23 - I eat dog and cat (and occasional rat). That makes me higher species. I even do with chop stick. Let's see your dolphin do that. (they are best braised with goat milk dip) Yum Yum

Oh, BTW, dolphin eat their cousin fish. Does that make them cannibal? No sign of higher species there. They eat them live and they swim around in stomach of dolphin until they die of acids. Talk about inhumane.

Some things are better said or done with actions, thats all. I think if Lohan is a role model (which she no doubt is by just being a celebrity), then she needs to accept some sacrifices.
I think it is entertaining at the least but also shows how much she needs to fix herself.

I generally can't stand PETA, but then I generally dislike humanity and think it's a virus. So, I tend to like animals better than people.

PETA pisses me off. There are better ways to prove a point than pull whatever they like to do. All these extremists and their poignant vegan ways that they feel the need to shove down other people throats is borderline annoying. Humans have been using animals for food and clothing for survival since the beginning of time. Although fashion is no longer the survival it doesn't mean that these people have the right to shove their beliefs down our throats. Talk about another Christianity/Islam here.
When they begin spray-painting leather jackets that's when heads will definitely roll.

I am all for PETA, People Eating Tasty Animals that is.

what. the. fuck.
She is right on the money. Did I just agree with this skanky freak? Damn me.
Seriously she nailed it on PETA.

She's %100 right! Way to rise above Sam!

I think PETA blew it. I am opposed to wearing fur, but I disagree with the way that PETA tried to get their message across. Stick to the naked hot chicks in the street, hippies.

Do the people at PETA not see that there is a financial meltdown going on, wars going on, mass suffering. No, what's really important is throwing flour on Lindsay Lohan.

http://starcasm.net/archives/1595

Do the people at PETA not see that there is a financial meltdown going on, wars going on, mass suffering. No, what's really important is throwing flour on Lindsay Lohan.

http://starcasm.net/archives/1595

"because the girl who threw it acted like an animal herself. I take that back, it's an insult to animals to group her in with them, my dog is FAR more civilized than that person"

all i can say is GOD DAMN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
if i were that peta chick i would be re-evaluating my life after reading that.....wow!!!!!!!!!!! samantha gots some disses

YEEEEAAAAAH for Samantha Ronson!!! Agreed.

"If it weren't for them [fur-wearing celebs], who would get them press?????"

yeah, b/c the only type of animal cruelty is people wearing fur. good one.

"when was the last time you saw an animal attack one of its own in defense of a human?"

seriously? some dogs will turn on their own in a heartbeat if another animal threatens their territory and/or owner. her blog would have been a lot more effective had it not had holes in it.

BORING... I read the first line, noticed that there was a foot more of the same poorly written drivel, and decided to save myself the five minutes of my life that I could never get back had I given a fuck . . . Nice job, Ronson, ya' fag.

I mean, seriously, Samantha is such a faggot. Am I wrong? Nope.

How come no one targeted Samantha Ronson for wearing the body of an ugly boy.

P.S. - Let it be known. Most real animal rights activists can't stand PETA either.

#39 = lols

Holy crap #6...i just watched that video and i had NO idea that was actually happening. Yes, I eat meat and eggs (i eat bio eggs and meat where the animals are free roaming) but this is just so wrong on so many levels. i dont believe that animals have the same emotions and feelings as a human but why does that matter..they feel plain just as much im sure. bah..that video made me want to puke...I will NEVER wear fur not even rabbit fur again.

PS. boo f'nhoo lindsey lohan got flour on her..its not like she was hit or something. she should watch taht video and see how disgusting animal skinning is.

I totally agree that fur is wrong, and I think it's awful. Why not wear faux fur? Good for Peta, although I don't get how dumping flour on somebody is soooo awful.

@Samson, a couple things:

1) It's "humanE", retard. Look it up. "hyoo-main"

2) Your argument for we have every reason to subject animals needless abuse and torture doesn't really hold up. A small child or a severely retarded person hasn't any more capacity for cognition or reason than many animals do, so by your rational we can stuff them in cages and skin them alive, too.

3) PETA is guilty of a lot of things like this stunt being discussed here, but anthropomorphism isn't generally one of them.

4) I too would be interested in where you're getting these alleged "facts" about dolphins

5) There's a world of difference between animal rights activists and animal welfare advocates. The major tenet in possessing rights is that you have to have the mental capability to know that you have them. So "animal rights" is kind of a misnomer or at least mislead notion. Animals don't have this capability, but that doesn't give us any right to torture or even kill them. Only retards like yourself think this way.

6) Many actors use stunt doubles who have gone through years of training to risk their neck in those action sequences without breaking it. CGI's are also commonly used today in lieu of a real person. Ever hear of a canine stunt double, you fucking idiot?

p.s.s. i think there are plenty of families that could have used that flour for a meal. nice job, lady.

That's my favorite part... You know, because the fur Lindsay is wearing could've been used by the animal it belonged to.

@Samson, a couple things:

1) It's "humanE", retard. Look it up. "hyoo-main"

2) Your argument for we have every reason to subject animals needless abuse and torture doesn't really hold up. A small child or a severely retarded person hasn't any more capacity for cognition or reason than many animals do, so by your rational we can stuff them in cages and skin them alive, too.

3) PETA is guilty of a lot of things like this stunt being discussed here, but anthropomorphism isn't generally one of them.

4) I too would be interested in where you're getting these alleged "facts" about dolphins

5) There's a world of difference between animal rights activists and animal welfare advocates. The major tenet in possessing rights is that you have to have the mental capability to know that you have them. So "animal rights" is kind of a misnomer or at least mislead notion. Animals don't have this capability, but that doesn't give us any right to torture or even kill them. Only retards like yourself think this way.

6) Many actors use stunt doubles who have gone through years of training to risk their neck in those action sequences without breaking it. CGI's are also commonly used today in lieu of a real person. Ever hear of a canine stunt double, you fucking idiot?

I can't believe people are rationalizing dumping flour on someone. "it's not that bad", really? Ever hear of pneumonia? Better yet, try doing that to somebody with severe asthma. That wouldn't be soooo awful, right? Nitwit.

PETA fucking sucks. Sure, they get the word out about inhumane treatment of animals, which is great, but they go to the WORST LENGTHS to get their point across... Throwing paint on people? Sure, it's kind of funny but in retrospect, it really just makes any animal rights activist look insane. I love animals, I'm going to school to become a vet tech, I don't eat meat, I volunteer at the humane society, and I inform - in a kind, knowledgeable way - others about animal cruelty that they never even heard of or thought about. THAT is what I think being an animal rights activist is about. Yeah, sometimes I do get mad and I will yell at people for stating ignorant comments or doing things that are totally wrong (such as leaving their dog outside in freezing weather), but overall I just try to make sure people know about what's going on and usually it will change their minds about a lot of things. PETA is just absolutely ridiculous. I will never like PETA.

Everyonepoops - I love you.

@ #6 e-rock - I couldn't watched that whole video. I felt sorry for those animals and started to cry so I shut the video off. While I am on the fence about the whole fur thing, those animal killing Chinese are cock sucking, scumbag, faggot-ass queers. The least they could do was kill them humanely with something like a bullet to the head instead of just letting them lie there in pain as if they WERE dead.

Someone should start torturing those Chinese people who thnk their way of acquiring fur is right.

this is completly ridiculous. does samantha ronson and lindsay lohan not know what fur comes from?

"p.s.s. i think there are plenty of families that could have used that flour for a meal. nice job, lady."

yeah, well theres an animal that could have used that fur to live. nice job.

Peta's initial intentions are good, but they go about all that in a completely wrong way. Samantha is right.

"when was the last time you saw an animal attack one of its own in defense of a human? hmmmmm..... that's one to grow on!"

This argument is just RIDICULOUS! it's just... nonsense! and animals shouldn't be tortured by their fur, it's one of the most wrong things in the planet, and take flour on the face is nothing compared to being SKINNED ALIVE !! duh, this lesbian dude bitch is complaining?? GOD fuck You, and all you fur fuckers !

So she's pissed at the bag of flour? I dont see what thats going to accomplish but okay. Samantha, let Lindsay handle the angry email from now on.

P.S. The only worthwhile accomplishment PETA has ever done is put a naked Dominique Swain in one of their ads.

The problem with PETA is while the organization has excellent intentions (I watched those fur videos and still can't get those images out of my head - I wouldn't wear fur if you paid me) their message is lost because of a few crazies in the mix.

Things like telling Ben & Jerry's to make ice cream out of human breast milk instead of cow's milk. There's having a love for animals and then there's being a barking mad nutcase, and too many PETA members are the latter.

So, who acts more like a petulant teen, Lohan or Peta? It's hard to say. I don't eat meat or wear fur, but I'm not thrilled with Peta because people will judge me by their actions.

She's right. Extreme activism has to stop. It sways no one to their side except pathetic people who can't think for themselves and have to be told that this is for a good cause!!! Destruction for the sake of any movement is stupid and should be punishable by serious time in prison. Get a grip...all the idiots who think they are making a difference through destroying anything in the process!!! Worse than sheep....puppets who willingly give over their right to make decisions on their own!!

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ummm....who the heck eats flour for dinner?? where are these families that wanted to eat this as a meal???

I never thought I'd agree with Sam, but I do. This behavior does not belong in a civilized society.

@Mia
"ummm....who the heck eats flour for dinner?? where are these families that wanted to eat this as a meal???"

http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/05/05/haiti-finding-relief-for-hunger-in-children/

I'm sure they could use that flour right about now. Or are you saying you'd take a dog's life over theirs?

And what happened to that animal that had to die so Lindsay cut look lyke omg sexiiii n haute in its skin? I think it was a hell of a lot worse than getting flour thrown on you. PeTA speaks for the animals who idiots like these 2 think they can just step all over because they can't speak the human language.

Wait, was Lindsay even wearing fur when she got the flour poured on her???

If I was Lindsay I'd get an attorney and sue that woman for assault, whether with flour or not. That woman intentionally intended harm, or humiliation... probably both, and that's ridiculous. I agree with most of the things Sam said above.

What the woman did was stupid-- and I'd look into legal action.

you know what, i don't care about peta or lindsay lohan, but i think that was the stupidest PS ever.

a bag of flour costs like, five bucks. a fur coat costs like $11,000 (unless you steal it from some chick at a night club). so, if you really want to help hungry families, spend a little less on yourselves and give some money and time to charity.

@ 22: Yeah, I'm not exactly happy with Patricia over at blog.peta.org, either. I generally think the hip, cutesy, and even self-righteous attitude she takes on that blog is childish and repulsive, and she completely disregards tact in the messages she posts, as she has constantly insulted many a person or group with whom either she or PETA has issues rather than discuss said issues in a direct, rational, adult fashion. Honestly, if PETA didn't want any more people thinking ill of them than there already are no thanks to such extremist stunts like the one talked about here, then why not have someone with a sense of MATURITY and DIPLOMACY handle the job? Why put the snippiest, least educated, most juvenile supporter they have in charge of the blog? Honestly, that woman needs to learn to either grow up or shut up. She's not cute or funny, nor does she have all the answers, even though she frequently acts like she does.

Generally, I think PETA's aims are noble, but they have so many supporters--the one who floured Ms. Lohan, for example--whose actions rarely justify those aims. If the organization wants to stay on society's good side, their officers need to take up the responsibility to weed out the less ethical, more outrageous supporters and educate the rest in maintaining proper conduct when interacting with the public. Politely conversing with a celebrity over the making of fur coats, for example, and then confiscating whatever fur garment said celebrity is wearing in exchange for, say, a warm cotton jacket is a far more civilized action than throwing flour (or red paint, for that matter) on said celebrity. Similarly, researching ways on how humans can treat animals more humanely and then sharing such knowledge to the public would definitely be more beneficial to society on the whole than simply making such suggestions as the one they made to Ben & Jerry's Ice Cream. People would actually start taking them more seriously if they did more of the former and less of the latter. Finally, PETA would do well to wisely allocate its annual $30 million income on programs on animal welfare education programs and taking proper care of the animals it takes into custody. All in all, PETA needs to reconstruct itself from the ground up if it wants people to look at it like the legitimate association it professes to be.

PS: As for that "Rather Go Naked than Wear Fur" campaign...I know celebrities like Christy Turlington, Pam Anderson, Dominique Swain, and Kathy Najimy offer a lot of influence with them by agreeing to strip down for such ads, but why not offer the job to eager non-celebrities every once in a while or even take PETA's anti-fur ads in a different direction, like showing a model/spokesperson cuddling a rabbit or other mammal used in making fur garments while wearing a fashionable, fur-free ensemble? Just a thought...

i hate u samantha ronson, u fucking lesbian

Alright, I am a big fan of Samantha Ronson..
I love her to death, more than Lindsey Gayhan...
But...theres one part in here that she shouldve thought through a bit more

"p.s. when was the last time you saw an animal attack one of its own in defense of a human? hmmmmm..... that's one to grow on!"

Ever heard of a guard dog?
They protect humans, even against other dogs.
They protect humans, against anything trying to harm the humans.
Maybe not all "guard" dogs, but if they were taught to be guard dogs, then yes...they would.

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Gol'dammit!

I am now in agreement with The Ronsonator?

Lawyer? Drop the the kidnapping and assault charges.

I'm going to hang in the Laz-E-Boy watching Giligan's Island episodes drinking Fresca and Tanqueray mulling over this quandary. I may HAVE to let the Ronsonator live. She may have some purpose, yet i this world.

Waldo, fetch me ... the remote.

"There is a fine line that distinguishes the difference between exercising our freedom of expression and offending others, for example the debate regarding freedom of speech vs. hate speech...."

There is no such thing as "hate speech" you rotten twisted pervert butch-dyke. Only FREE SPEECH exists! So shut your fucking mouth except for when you're munching that skank LiLo's carpet, you lezzy TURD!!!

That stupid POS clitlicker bull-dyke sounds like she's never heard of the 1st Amendment. She thinks free speech only pertains to speech she likes, like praising mom, apple pie, or carpet munching.

And do you know what else? FISH ALLOWS FREE SPEECH! SO FISH TOTALLY AGREES WITH ME!!! ME ME ME!!! AND THAT MEANS I'M RIGHT!!! SO ALL YOU PC LIBTARDS CAN JUST GO EAT SHIT AND DIE!!! FUCK YOU IN THE EYE SOCKET, YOU TURDS!!!

IT'S FISH MAN!!! FISH!!! THAT'S RIGHT!!! FUCKIN' FISH AGREES WITH ME, SO SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU TURDS!!!

YAAAAAAAAAY FISH!!! YAAAAAAAAAAAAY FOR FREE SPEECH!!! YAY FOR ME TAKING A SHIT IN RONSON'S MOUTH!!!! YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYY!!!!

YAY!!! YAY FOR ME!!! I'M TOTALLY THE GREATEST PERSON WHO EVER LIVED!!! YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY MEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!

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For the rest of you, PETA is the face of animal advocacy. This is both a blessing and a curse for those of us who advocate things like vegetarian diets, conscientious consumerism and non-cruel treatment of the other creatures that live on this planet along with us.

PETA spends millions of dollars every year operating within the precincts of popular culture and mainstream advertising. Some people like myself find this to be good and bad. It's good because it's a campaign that is visible to just about anyone who reads shit like People or Time or whatever. It's not like Humane Society of the United States or any of the thousands of independent non-profits who run shelters but are virtually unknown to anyone who isn't already fighting for animal advocacy.

PETA's tactics are bad because they ignore some of the most basic, intrinsic elements of a free market, corporate-oriented economy: big business is not about ethics. It never has been and it never will be. Ask the Mexican man standing in the Home Depot parking desperate for work that will pay him $40 a day. The only way to make a significant, immediate difference for animals is to change your dietary habits, adopt a dog from a shelter rather than buying it at a pet store, eschew the purchasing of new leather and buy it second hand instead, etc. It's a small difference, but it helps tremendously.

The Humane Society of the United States recently campaigned for Proposition 2 and we've just enjoyed a major victory here in California with its passing, which means the banning of battery cages in this state. Fuck yeah to that. It's not a "mission accomplished" kind of victory, but it's a step in the right direction. If you're going to purchase meat raised here in California, at least its from an animal that has lived a healthy, natural life instead of shitting itself in some cage wherein it can barely stand up and turn around. Proselytize about how animals can't reason all you want. That's cruel any way you look at it.

I wish PETA would take a cue and stop backing insipid little stunts like this. This does not help animal advocacy. It just makes animal welfare advocates look bad and it makes people resistant to ideas of compassion and fair treatment of animals still more resistant. Nobody wins, even the vainglorious shithead who threw the flour and animals continue to suffer.

I'm sorry for coming down so hard on Samson, but people tend to be so flippant about this stuff. How about trying to formulate a cogent, informed argument for a change? Just a thought.

That was actually a rather eloquent post she made.

Personally I think all Lindsay is obligated to do more for herself than for anyone else is to watch the various videos (the Chinese Fur one for example) and if she still feels the price is worth it, then by all means let her wear fur.

I prefer the informed decision to wear fur (or eat meat etc) as opposed to the decision made in ignorance.

FYI I don't wear fur or condone the trade except on a cultural preservation or survivalist scale.

You want two american fakers?
look here, YOUR WISH IS MY COMMAND, folks!!

I want to see this bitch skinned alive and anally electrocuted then she has a right to whine cos her slut got LESS than she deserve for wearing FUR. SLUT CRUEL WHIORE BITCH.

W W W . FUR IS DEAD . C O M

W W W . FUR IS DEAD . C O M

W W W . FUR IS DEAD . C O M

To those that think this is a joke
Go to www.furisdead.com, watch the videos

To those that think this is a joke
Go to www.furisdead.com, watch the videos

To those that think this is a joke
Go to www.furisdead.com, watch the videos

#5

Please....

I never though I'd say this, but I kinda agree with Samantha Ronson! I know morons that would literally step over homeless people just to throw food at people that wear fur or leather. I'm not advocating the extinction of any animal species, but I'm just thinking if just half of these people could muster the same amount of compassion for a goddamn human beings maybe the planet (or at least their own part of it) wouldn't be such a hard shitty ordeal for some people. It's getting (whoops already there) to the point that you could be walking down the street, a random aggressive dog runs out of its owner's yard, up to you and bites you, and the first thing many people want to know is 1) Is the dog alright, and 2) What did YOU do to provoke the dog. PETA is kinda like a 35 yo women with a tramp stamp 15 years ago it seemed like a great idea, but now it's just an embarrassment for many and source of amusement for others.

PETA is a hypocritical/hyper-critical godless pseudo-terrorist organization that displays intolerance toward those who have a differing opinion. I truly and honestly don't give a flying fuck about animals "rights". They were put on this Earth for sustenance.

humans commit atrocities on other humans all the time, humans commit atrocities on animals all the time, actually animal cruelty is a precursor to human cruelty.
There's some good people but all in all I prefer animals.
Im all about Misanthropy. Humans make me sick

I agree with Samantha Ronson wholeheartedly. It's sad that PETA goes for these violent attacks on celebrities in order to try to get their message across. Sometimes I think they fail because most people cheer them on because they enjoy seeing these celebrities get humiliated and trashed. SOME don't actually care about the animal rights or whatever PETA is protesting.

Hopefully in the future, PETA will come up with more humane tactics to get their message across to people all over the world. Perhaps then more people will actually pay attention and help out their cause. After all, how can one respect another person or organization if these people can't even show respect themselves.

Regarding the comment about the flour, I agree that that bag of flour could have been eaten by some family somewhere instead of being wasted. If you think about it, PETA is actually vary wasteful and not at all eco-friendly. I want to know if PETA cleans up the mess they make with the paint, the pies, and the flour.

Oooh. If I were Lindsay Lohan, Anna Wintour and the other victims of PETA, I would sue them for assault and maybe get a restraining order against these people.

I do realize that a lot of people will bash my opinion by telling me that I don't know what I'm talking about or I'm just some mindless fan of these two celebrities or for whatever reason. It's fine with me since I was still able to speak my mind about this issue. I realize that PETA will completely ignore what I and a lot of other people are trying to point out which is sad because they won't be truly successful in their cause and will only end up looking like vicious hypocrites in the long run.

I agree Andrea

Yes, PETA believes that wearing fur is bad. But MOST people do not believe that wearing fur is bad and they should stop acting immature and respect that others are going to do what they want to do. I don't like Ronson, but I agree with her that this was utterly disrespectful. That's why PETA has such a negative public image. Its not their hate for fur or love for animals in and of itself, its the obnoxious things they do to people who don't feel the same way. When will PETA grow the fuck up and learn to further their cause in a civil manner instead of with violence and mean-spiritedness?

Hey,

Shes right on!

Animals were put on this planet for us to exploit!
Period!

It's a fine line between making a point and overstepping the line. I agree with what Angela said, and I think that PETA is more likely to damage it's own reputation than that of the people it "attacks". Without going too off topic, it's like the animal rights protesters who attack labs and the people who work there in the belief that it will stop it happening - it won't, so why should you hurt someone when what you're trying to do is completely ineffective?

good one #72. I lived in rural america all my life and then moved to germany to live with my bf. My life then was full of taking strays, fostering them and then trying to find people who could take in a cat. I saw a lot of suffering such as kittens left in dumpters (or maybe born there?) and crawling around a nd meowing for food that would never arrive. ive seen stray dogs that careless owners let loose get hit by cars numerous times. ive seen dogs chained up with no adequate shelter and left there with no attention. this is just what I saw with my own eyes..who knows what goes on behind doors. But still I will not give my money to PETA because they use most of that money to fight stupid cases in court like this one. Instead I give it to the local shelter that needs it diretly and will directly help an animal in need. While I understand the woman's anger over the barbaric treatment of animals, I dont like the methods because it does as you said give the image that animal right's activists are all extremists and ultimately hurts the cause.

oh btw. about animal rights advocates not caring about humans. THEY ARE TWO DIFFERENT ISSUES ENTIRELY. I care just as much about humans as I do animals and I would help a human over an animal any day. but that does not mean animals should somehow be ignored. Why it appears that some people care more anout animals than humans is because animals do not have a voice and someone needs to be that voice for them. Yes, I think its sad to see people, esp. kids, dying in africa but on the other hand theres little you can do when their own communities are fighting against each other or their govt is corrupt and takes charity money (or even charity workers themselves).. Animals have little ability to control their own destiny and fate however. I dont see why the first arguement from people who advocate animal rights is "well what about humans?!?" ..animal rights advocates are generally compassionate people and probably are involved in a lot of human rights causes.

"I don't wear fur, but I don't think I have the right to ATTACK those who do. No one has that right."

In most cases, violence against contemporary celebrities is really funny. It's a shame that PETA freak didn't hurl a balloon filled with piss at Sam's boy face.

"Lindsay, Mary Kate, Ashley Olsen, Anna Wintour and the rest of the targeted celebrities aren't the problem, I'm pretty sure they're not the only ones wearing fur, in fact, they should be appreciated by PETA for giving them a target."

Let's hope the aforementioned celebrities are 'attacked' more frequently, then; it makes for great entertainment! =D

"p.s. when was the last time you saw an animal attack one of its own in defense of a human? hmmmmm..... that's one to grow on!"

As others have already stated, that's what guard dogs are for.

"p.s.s. i think there are plenty of families that could have used that flour for a meal. nice job, lady."

I love how Sam's punctuation skills fall flat near the end of her rant.

Timmeh!!!

Jimmeh..??

Timmeh!!!

I believe PETA is a worthy cause, but some people that are members of PETA take it to the extremes. I must admit that I was amused to hear the flour story.

People need to stop and think about what they are doing. Animals need their fur more than people. Why would anyone want to put a dead animals fur on their body? Because they are not thinking or do not care what the poor animal went through for a fur coat.

@95

Great logic there. What about the people with hundred year old fur coats that actually served a purpose? Should they be punished for not freezing to death?

If I've got to choose whether it's me freezing or a(n) [insert furry animal here], I'll choose me.

#95

Back in the old days people killed free roaming animals for food and clothing. We are in the 21st Century and this is no longer necessary. The world can always use another humanitarian for people and animals. Skinning an animal for fur is cruel and wrong.

Too bad it wasn't blood instead of flour. If you wear fur you deserve to get flour thrown on you. It's barbaric and unacceptable.

Did they eat the animal? Cuz if so, then it's not that bad. They definately should have eaten the animal.

Good points all, and well written. Never gave her much thought before, but well done.

PSS? As in Post Scriptum Scriptum?

That said, those PETA people are really pathetic.

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The Humane Society, ASPCA and the WWF (that's World Wildlife fund not wrestling) I believe are much better groups than PETA.

I think PETA's approach to the problem is close to barbaric... They show you shock videos like those presented here, and yes, it's terrible and it happens but you don't have to force people to watch that just because you believe it will "educate" us. EDUCATION is not the same as SCARING PEOPLE SHITLESS. Do you beat your children when they do something wrong? Because to me that's about the same thing, scaring them so they don't do it again. They are better ways to reach people, learn the ways and use them.
They get celebrities to pose nude because sex fucking sells and automatically that person becomes a fucking angel but they ALWAYS say mean, rude and downright awful shit about every celebrity they don't like because of their personal choice.
They create people that become eco-terrorists who are willing to throw paint (or in this case flour) on people that wear fur... I don't know if they realize what a dumb idea that is, since those people more than likely have the money to buy a new one. Good job... you guys just killed more poor animals!
Oh and let's not forget about the whole "eating meat is murder" thing. I understand that you don't eat animal meat, I applaud you because it's a very tough thing to do if you haven't been raised vegan. But for you to come shove down our throat that what we do is wrong, no, that's were you cross the line. Humans have cuspids (canine teeth) which means WE ARE MEANT TO EAT MEAT, it's necessary for our body and thus we will eat as much meat as we god damn want to. We know they are vitamins and other things to take but that's a personal freaking choice. Let people live their life and don't judge them! I'm sure you wouldn't like to be judged for being vegan and you would throw a pussy fit if anyone did, so don't expect any less when you annoy the fuck out of somebody who isn't.

I guess there are two very important things to learn:
#1:
Animals should be treated with respect, they can't tell you but they do hurt and they do have feelings. My cats get depressed if I leave for longer than a day, they receive me with so much joy when I come back. So there is no way you can tell me that they don't suffer or have feelings. We need to find ways to help the animals in need and to educate people that animal cruelty happens all over the world with all kinds of animals and that everyone needs to do their share to stop it.
#2:
PETA needs to remember that humans are animals, just like our furry friends. We have feelings and we can voice them. No one likes to be publicly humiliated and by doing those terrible things all they gain is the disdain from people. You're creating a bad name for your organization, maybe it's not all of you but then you need to control AND teach the ones that do the right way to approach things.

When it's all said and done, her logic is mystifying. Her argument by no means shifted this one away from supporting PETA. Fur manufacture is beyond cruel to the animals. I say powder them all! They deserve for what the animals are being put through. Go PETA!

Hmmm... being hit by a harmless, powdered grain often or cruelly being killed for someone's lame-ass vanity. Wow.. that is a tough one.

Hmmm... being hit by a harmless, powdered grain or cruelly being killed for someone's lame-ass vanity. Wow.. that is a tough one.

"p.s. when was the last time you saw an animal attack one of its own in defense of a human? hmmmmm..... that's one to grow on!"

That's about the dumbest thing I've heard today. Hmmm... and she thought that was clever. Ahh.. to be young, hip, and stupid.

PETA = People that need a life.

Their the "people" that try to stop using animals for experimental purposes when testing for new drugs, right ?

Phiffff.

Get a job. Get a family. Get a life.

When is the last time an animal attacked it's own kind to defend a human? Pleny, dumb-ass. I once had a dog attack a German Sheppard that was going to attack me. I am sure I am not the only one who has been defended in such a way by a loyal dog.

I meant "plenty" ;P

To those who think Sammy is right and there are "extremists" at PETA (you crankymiss, samson and others).

Fighting for animals rights is actually putting humans before animals. It is putting humans above animals indeed, because we are supposed to be the "intelligent" specie as opposed to the idiotic specie that needs to advertise animal abuse and their kill for fashion purposes.

In regards to humans or animals being more important, when did fashion become way more important than animal lives? Sammy, what about we give flour to fellow poor humans and you give us your dog (not to feed them) to use his coat for their cold at night?

In regards to animals doing things you do not understand, well, it is common for humans to jump into conclusions at things they do not understand PERIOD. Now that does not justify supporting cruelty to another living thing because others do it, that is not intelligent reasoning, neither applied nor understood.

and 24, what has education done? If flour weren't throwed on that air head, many would not even care to consider that wearing fur might mean supporting animal abuse.