Nov 7 2008Melissa Etheridge quits paying her taxes

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Melissa Etheridge has decided to take a drastic approach to the passing of Proposition 8 in California: She's not paying her state taxes. The singer posted on The Daily Beast letting the Governator and state officials know she'll be enjoying the extra money in protest to the banning of gay marriage after it was already made legal:

Okay. So Prop 8 passed. Alright, I get it. 51% of you think that I am a second class citizen. Alright then. So my wife, uh I mean, roommate? Girlfriend? Special lady friend? You are gonna have to help me here because I am not sure what to call her now. Anyways, she and I are not allowed the same right under the state constitution as any other citizen. Okay, so I am taking that to mean I do not have to pay my state taxes because I am not a full citizen. I mean that would just be wrong, to make someone pay taxes and not give them the same rights, sounds sort of like that taxation without representation thing from the history books.
Okay, cool I don't mean to get too personal here but there is a lot I can do with the extra half a million dollars that I will be keeping instead of handing it over to the state of California. Oh, and I am sure Ellen will be a little excited to keep her bazillion bucks that she pays in taxes too. Wow, come to think of it, there are quite a few of us fortunate gay folks that will be having some extra cash this year. What recession? We're gay!
Oh and too bad California, I know you were looking forward to the revenue from all of those extra marriages. I guess you will have to find some other way to get out of the budget trouble you are in.

Wait. You can withhold your taxes to protest asinine laws? Nice! I quit paying mine too - until every single strip club across this great nation is free of discriminatory pasties legislation. Because, America, I have a dream that nipples will no longer be segregated from my eyesight over by the chicken wing table. DON'T TREAD ON ME!

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Lesbians are tax exempt, right?

The people voted. Get over it.

Oh wait I see, she wants to get tossed in jail with the other lesbians to celebrate or something.

What she's saying absolutely makes sense, and I find it absolutely appalling that we're even allowed to take away someone's rights when they've done nothing wrong. However, they'll probably just fine her, arrest her, etc, for not paying her taxes.
It's a sad world we live in.

I am a lesbian trapped in a mans body. Does that mean I can stop paying my California State income taxes? and how about the F'ing sales tax.

She's so right. You can't expect people to pay the same taxes as other tax payers if they don't have the same rights as other tax payers. Proposition 8 is stupid, I don't understand why anyone would care so much as to go out of their way to say that gays can't marry. Worry about your own life.

They have no life. They feel important dictating how others should live.

@2

That's probably easy to say when it doesn't affect you.

The hell with everyone else's rights....

Well good for her. I respect the stance she is taking.

If she doesn't pay her taxes, then she can enjoy the comforts of prison, where she'll be celebrated as a dyke.

Dumb bitch!

Homosexuality is a psychological disorder, it's a sickness. Do we let murderers keep murdering people because they like to kill people? No. Either put them in jail or get some medical help.

What she needs is a stiff dick. Problem is, she's so disgustingly ugly and repulsive nobody would be willing to sacrifice their cock to that sewage pit she calls a vagina, not even after a 12 pack and 8 shots of jagr would I touch that shit.

Fuck all you homo's.

OH, CRY ME A RIVER! NOBODY CARES THAT YOU'RE GAY. AND NO, WE DON'T NEED YOUR TAXES. Matter of fact, you could solve this entire problem by taking your millions and buying an island and moving there. Everyone wins!

Idiot. You can't just obey the rules you like.

if we went to a federal sales tax, would we have to declare table dances?

Obamma got elected and I don't like his tax laws, so can I quit paying my taxes too?

Go get some cock Etheredge you dumb fucking retard


Not paying taxes is a method of protest that's been around a long time. There was this guy named Thoreau, for example. I think it's a brilliant idea that anyone brave enough should try. Creating second class citizens is a very loathsome thing for our nation to do, and it is a cause worthy of such a strong response.

10,11,&12
You guys are idiots. Homosexuality stopped being a psychological disorder in the fifties. It's busybodies like you who got Prop 8 passed in the first place. Why not? It doesnt matter to you. At the end of the day, you can still drink beer on the porch and try to pick up some redneck women, as they were the only people to fuck you anyway.
P.S. I'm pretty sure God wouldn't have used the possessive form of homos.
Dumbass.

The people of California voted on this. WTF?
Everybody who voted had their say. WTF?

The real travesty here is with the courts who ignored the law in the first place and allowed this shit to happen. Creating and ignoring laws as a sitting judge is the real issue here, not to mention enforcing the damn law.

Maybe she and Wesley Snipes should hook up for an educational experience.

Do not fuck with the IRS, they will lock your ass up, period.

Thats 52.5%. Why try and lie about how many people really voted for it in her post?

Thats 52.5%. Why try and lie about how many people really voted for it in her post?

Wesley Snipes tried this too, this will turn out to be yet another yawn festival. Oh and everyone knows you're a shitdick Fish.

lmao at the end of #17.
And no, it is NOT a psychological disorder. Do some research, morons. That's how shit like this gets passed. Because of the uninformed, I believe anything anyone tells me, unwilling to learn, unwilling to accept other cultures, and ignorant people that populate this country and have unfortunately been given the right to vote.

While I agree with her in spirit there are other more productive ways to protest Prop-8 other than pouting, sitting on ones tosh and saying "I'm not paying taxes." Taxes goes to infrastructure and many other social programs that people need. Taxes may also be used in many things we don't approve of, like the war in Iraq. But, instead of doing something illegal, how about doing things the legal way (albeit this requires getting up off the couch), getting a bunch of people together and protesting what you feel is unjust. With her money she would have no problem advertising the event. But, I suppose this method is too difficult for individuals like her.

I mourn her civil rights. It's called discrimination you dumb fucks......

The rights of the minority should not be trampled by the tyranny of the majority.

Seriously, think about it. Our country has a proud history of protecting the rights of the few, despite the protests of the majority. If you don't like gay marriage, I think the best thing to do is to marry someone of the opposite gender, instead of treating people as second class citizens.

Good on ya, Melissa !!!!

lmao at the end of #17.
And no, it is NOT a psychological disorder. Do some research, morons. That's how shit like this gets passed. Because of the uninformed, I believe anything anyone tells me, unwilling to learn, unwilling to accept other cultures, and ignorant people that populate this country and have unfortunately been given the right to vote.

Fuck you Etheridge you fucking homo.

You plaster a disgusting picture of you and your wretched girlfriend and her bastard children of David Crosby on the cover of Rolling Stone as some sort of portrayal of how your gay marriage should be celebrated as successful and normal, and then a week later she leaves you for some cock. Most sickening thing I've ever seen. How are those children supposed to grow up?

This is pathetic. No one has created a second class of citizen, no one is denying anyone's rights. You just can't have the word. What's the big deal? You know what? I can't call myself a king, either. You know why? Because I'm NOT, no matter how much I may want to be considered one.

Gays and so many other minorities wouldn't know what to do with themselves if they couldn't be victims anymore, if they couldn't complain that they're oppressed. This is a completely manufactured controversy designed to create a false sense of moral superiority among a population plagued by repressed (and baseless) shame.

Homosexuality is NOT a psychological disorder, and it's NOT a sickness, you fucking ignorant.

It's not like you were walking down the street and suddenly 'cof cof, uhmm I think I might've cought the homo flue'...

I guess she won't mind going to jail for tax evasion 'cause there's lots of pussy in the clink. She'll be right at home!

if it'll get me out of paying taxes
i'd eat pussy everyday too

dumb ass

God gave man AIDS to rid the world of the homo's. If it weren't for science, homo's couldn't reproduce, and their sick DNA wouldn't be passed on.

Homosexuals are meant to die off and not reproduce, it's natures way of telling you that you aren't supposed to be here and you should die.

Feed her to the Lions at the zoo, it would be more productive then her life has been so far....

@26

Germany's National Socialist party had loads of research to show people as well. Believing what one person tells you simply because they told you is no different than believing for the same reason what someone else told you. The bottom line is we don't know the nature or cause of homosexuality. ALL of the passionate arguments on both sides are pointless propaganda. Why do I say so? It's not because I've got strong feelings one way or the other, but rather because it DOESN'T FUCKING MATTER in the slightest. It is was it is regardless of whether we understand it or not. Causes or lack thereof have no bearing on the issue whatsoever.

Holy Shit, # 29, there's a homo flu? I don't want to catch it; better start getting rid of all these homos!

No one's abusing her civil rights or creating a second-class citizen. We have laws. To chicks having a "marriage" legally recognized isn't one of them. Boo hoo. Go into porn or start enjoying the cock, and then you can get married.

Also, # 24, it's not called discrimination. It's called the law of the land. You, for instance, can't legally marry your mother, although I'm sure you'd really like to. It's called morals and common sense, too.

Weird, here I thought this is why we left it up to ALL the people to decide.

A government by the people for the people..


ALL PEOPLE.

I agree with Melissa. California wants to portray itself all hip and modern, but look at it. Washed up old people afraid someone else's happiness is going to spoil their own?

If you gotta problem with gays... Look in your own closet because your subconscious is telling you something.

29. stupidignorants - November 7, 2008 10:09 AM

Homosexuality is NOT a psychological disorder, and it's NOT a sickness, you fucking ignorant.

It's not like you were walking down the street and suddenly 'cof cof, uhmm I think I might've cought the homo flue'...


Actually, that's EXACTLY how it happens..

i wouldn't hit it, but i support equal rights to everyone. while i support obama, i am certainly disappointed in his gay marriage stance.

You mean only man and woman can get divorced. As if anyone even takes marriage seriously anymore? All the hypocritical bible thumpers out there need to concentrate on themselves better people and get there noses out of everyone else's business. People who support Prop 8 are a bunch of lonely, sad, brainwashed, boring cult freaks.

Taxes are not even Constitutional. Check out livefreenow.org

i am happy they banned it. i am also happy this lousy cunt thinks she can just stop paying taxes too. i can't wait to hear about when the irs evicts this lousy bitch out of her house. get your fucking civil union and be done with it mel.
i am also glad that ellen paid $100,000 to try to rally support to stop the law but it obviously did no good. i hate the lousy bitch doing her stupid little dancing shit on her crappy show. she thinks shes being funny but i don't want to see some lousy old dyke trying to show off her granny moves. after she came out, she got all preachy and annoying. and i am soooo sick of her.
this is super awesome baby!
once again marriage is where it belongs- the way it was always meant to be.
and no i am not religious. i just get annoyed with these super-preachy homos acting like they are entitled to something when they are not. this is a good day for justice!!!

What if she lived in another state, would she still pay taxes?

I don't care if she's a lesbian. It's the law. 51% of the people didn't want you to be able to be married to another same sex person...reminds me of another really close decision from that same day...52% of the people wanted Obama and the rest didn't. I didn't want him. But I'm stuck with him and I'm still going to pay my (soon to be even higher) taxes and I'm not moving to a foreign country. She's free to move to a new state.

In most states there's no law that you have to file a tax return. 95 percent of the public just assume there is one. There is no income tax liability relative to American citizens. Saddest part is I'm Canadian and I know that from the research I've done about your corrupt government. Probably would serve you Americans better if you read a few things once in a while and got your information from other sources then your television. Odd how your tv didn't tell you that when your government controls all the major media outlets. lol.


1. There is no law which requires you to file an income tax return for working in America.
2. There is no law which requires you to pay income tax for working in America.
3. You volunteer when you sign a income tax return.
4. You volunteer when you pay income tax.
5. You sign away your 5th Amendment rights against self-incrimination when you sign a tax return.
6. The money which you pay as your " income tax " goes to a private banking cartel known as the Federal Reserve System. This organization, also known as the " FED," is NOT a government agency.


Can't be brain washed forever Americans but until then you can keep believing the only person behind the JFK assassination was Oswald, some guy in a cave planned 9/11 and you really went into Iraq to fight terrorism. Ignorance is bliss I guess.

FUCK!!!!

We just had to endure 72 hours of black people jumping up and down and crying like they just won the fucking Lottery because Obomma got elected,

Now I gotta hear a fucking homo dyke cunt bitch whine about her fucking gay rights too??? Fuck that shit.

Somebody give her a dirty sanchez......

The way you people think is revolting. If someone took away your rights, you would be reacting the same way. And yes, it IS like saying she is a second class citizen. She has a great point - if she has just been told that she doesn't have the same rights as everyone else, why should she have to pay the same taxes? Get your homophobic head out of your ass and start thinking about it in terms of RIGHTS. Every human being should have the same rights you ignorant assholes!! RELIGION is the thing that says marriage is between a man and woman - and no where in the constitution does it bring up marriage. How in the world does this make sense?? Keep your religion to yourself.

The way you people think is revolting. If someone took away your rights, you would be reacting the same way. And yes, it IS like saying she is a second class citizen. She has a great point - if she has just been told that she doesn't have the same rights as everyone else, why should she have to pay the same taxes? Get your homophobic head out of your ass and start thinking about it in terms of RIGHTS. Every human being should have the same rights you ignorant assholes!! RELIGION is the thing that says marriage is between a man and woman - and no where in the constitution does it bring up religion. How in the world does this make sense?? Keep your religion to yourself.

In most states there's no law that you have to file a tax return. 95 percent of the public just assume there is one. There is no income tax liability relative to American citizens. Saddest part is I'm Canadian and I know that from the research I've done about your corrupt government. Probably would serve you Americans better if you read a few things once in a while and got your information from other sources then your television. Odd how your tv didn't tell you that when your government controls all the major media outlets. lol.


1. There is no law which requires you to file an income tax return for working in America.
2. There is no law which requires you to pay income tax for working in America.
3. You volunteer when you sign a income tax return.
4. You volunteer when you pay income tax.
5. You sign away your 5th Amendment rights against self-incrimination when you sign a tax return.
6. The money which you pay as your " income tax " goes to a private banking cartel known as the Federal Reserve System. This organization, also known as the " FED," is NOT a government agency.


Can't be brain washed forever Americans but until then you can keep believing the only person behind the JFK assassination was Oswald, some guy in a cave planned 9/11 and you really went into Iraq to fight terrorism. Ignorance is bliss I guess.

#32

Uh, Jesus, you are officially disowned.

I created AIDS to kill off a quarter of the Humans. AIDS is a heterosexual epidemic in that country Africa. And, with the insane politics of America, I will soon have all of those souls in hell too.

Go say 'Hello' to your brother Lucifer because you're going to be spending some time with him now.

Yes, even God makes mistakes. And, unfortunately, you were a mistake. I should've never let Mary talk me into taking that LambSkin off of my eternal penis.

#35 - No, because it honestly shouldn't be up to all the people to decide. That's the problem with democracy, it conflicts with our Constitution sometimes. Because most of the people (51% in this case) are bigoted fucks. This is why we live in a representative republic instead of a true democracy, because supposedly our government officials such as congressmen and judges and the like should be able to legislate and judge things objectively.

The problem with letting everyone vote on the civil rights of a minority is that, by definition, the minority is underrepresented. This is the same issues that racial minorities and women ran into.

Seriously...name one single valid reason for disallowing homosexuals to marry that isn't completely founded in religious bigotry.

Oh, and on a side note...don't any of you hate-spewing trolls have an ounce of empathy? Jesus Christ...*facepalm*

Sorry Melissa, but this is a democracy. The issue went to the people and the people have spoken by a pretty decent margin (same as the margin by which Obama defeated McCain).

You're free to not pay your taxes, but same sex marriage is not a constitutional right. If people of the same sex can get married, then a man should be able to legally marry his daughter if they're both consenting adults. A brother should be allowed to marry his sister. A man should be able to marry his dog.

I know these sound like ridiculous arguments, but a lot of people find incest morally reprehensible and "unnatural," just as they feel that gay marriage is unnatural. Enough people voted for this constitutional ban on gay marriage, so now you have to live with it.

Right On! I hope like every lesbian or gay does this, yaknow, get this stupid thing overturned.

#45 "RELIGION is the thing that says marriage is between a man and woman - and no where in the constitution does it bring up marriage."


You are exactly right. Marriage is between a man and a woman. Therefor two women or two men can't possibly be "married".

It would be like 4 trying to sue 3 because 4 isn't a prime number.

Besides, didn't this cunt "marry" some other dyke a few years ago, they had a couple bastards with David Crosby in the mix, and then they got "divorced" because the other one wanted to go back to the cock?

Some thing just "ARE".

@8. Alright, we'll trade you. You get the Prop 8 results you want and we get McCain as president.

47, I'm pretty sure although there is no law that allows taxes, there is a law against not paying.

Actually, there is no law whatsoever requiring you to pay income tax. In fact, what the IRS does is unconstitutional. Usually the reason people go to jail is for tax fraud, not for simply not paying.

#48
Am I a terrible person for laughing at that? Haha. Probably not.
Anyway, this place is full of idiots who think they have the right to say they're better than someone else. We need to leave other peoples' business alone.

# 44. Bickus Dickus -

AMEN. I couldn't have said it better myself

#48 - You are right. God makes mistakes.

God made a huge mistake when homo's slipped through the hands of the creator. He also made a mistake when he overcooked some humans and came out with the Negros.

But God also makes some great decisions. When God created AIDS to get rid of his mistakes (fucking queers), he, by mistake, also came up with a solution to the Negro problem.

So by giving AIDS to man, GOD killed two birds with one stone. He's getting rid of the homo's and the porch monkey's with one cure.

GOD IS GREAT!!!

This is a good idea. Every time we don't get something we want, let's throw a trantrum like a 4 year old and refuse to comply with anything.

For you McCain supporters out there, stop paying federal income tax. If the guy you supported in your local election lost, stop paying local sales tax.

I'm literally disgusted by how many ignorant and uneducated people are posting here. History will remember you as hateful bigots. Just like a black president was inevitable, so are gay rights. Stop trying to control other people out of fear. Homosexuality is NOT psychiatric disorder. To the original person who wrote that: do you even know what the DSM is? Have you ever seen one? It makes me nauseous to have to know that this kind of stupidity exists in the world. Read a fucking book.

I'm just wondering when other groups are going to start demanding equal rights to marry.... How soon will people be fighting for the right to marry siblings, or parents, or animals they love dearly. Who's to say they are any less equal? Or do those ideas even gross out the Homosexuals? Doesn't it all come down to either religion or the ewww factor? Or is it just the group with a substantial populatio that gets heard and overcomes what was once considered taboo. In the end it seems less about rights and more about what people want and feel they should have vs. others who feel what they want and feel they should have is taboo.

William Taft here. As former President, Supreme Supreme, drafter of the 16th Ammendment and Tax & Spend Liberal Republican, I have to say you are wrong to think that you don't have to pay taxes.

Me and my buddy, Thomas Jefferson, made it clear that Federalism rules in the good ole US of A.

And, with that said, pay your taxes or go to jail. There is no compromise.

Unless you want to create the 28th Ammendment that repeals the 16th Ammendment.

But, then you would have greater budget deficits than my Liberal Tax & Spend Republican friends who have just lost power.

The fact that she can threaten to withhold half a million in taxes means there are a lot of fucking idiots out there buying her shitty caterwauling.

Wow.
Wow @ these comments. You people are a bunch of hateful pieces of shit. She has every right to NOT pay taxes. Why should she if she doesn't have the same rights to benefits as other California tax payers?? And the reason it passed was because their campaign was very confusing... people weren't sure if they're voting YES to ban it or allow it. And she has enough money to hire lawyers who will keep her out of prison. Her rights as a citizen were taken away, why shouldn't she take away her responsibilities as a citizen?

It WILL be overturned. No one has any right to treat people differently based on the color of their skin or their sexual preference. GOD doesn't belong in politics!

hopefully theres gay marriage in prison

I'm wondering if any of the people who claim Income Tax as not being legal have ever been able to use that as a defense in court? I'm gonna go with no.

Goddamn, she's fucking hard to look at! Maybe she can can use that half million to fly to France and get a face transplant. Better yet, maybe she'll love it there and stay and we'll never be subjected to that shit she calls music.

Aw, come on, doesn't anybody want to take me on? Just because I'll argue with you and potentially disagree with you doesn't mean I hate you or don't respect you. I'm at 28 and 33.

You children are pointless.
That's the most disgusting rant I've ever heard.

Honestly!!!
You can't just throw a tantrum because you don't get your way. Sorry. What about all the very, very, very, VERY religious people who were very FOR Prop-8. Does that mean that, because they don't support homosexual relationships, they could have thrown a tantrum and publically posted rants about how they're not going to pay their taxes because they're a 'second-class citizen' to have the rights of others forced down their throats?!
NO!!!
because then they would be deemed a bigot or a racist or a homophobe or a sexist or whatever else you idiots could throw at them.
Gay marriage is a states-rights issue.
You're state decided that they don't want gay marriage.
Don't like it?! Move. Don't want to pay taxes for a country like this? Get out.

I was under the impression that Mellissa Etheridge was over the age of 4. I guess I was mistaken.

WTF? Not allowed "the same right" as any other citizen?

Last I checked, she's allowed the exact same right as any other person in California. She is allowed to marry anybody of her own choosing of the opposite sex, just like anyone else. EVERYBODY is EQUALLY deprived of faggot marriage, regardless of sexual orientation. Sounds fair to me.

64, It's not about God. As with anything, ignorant idiots like to use God to defend whatever their opinions are. Sex before marriage, drug use, divorce, contraception, lying, cheating, etc. - God is okay with all of this when necessary...

@61

Robert raises an interesting point, and I think he's correct. This whole thing is about perceptions on both sides, not rights.

#58

I agree with your dad, he made a big mistake with you!

The color of people's skin is based on how they evolved. White's are white because they lived in colder climates, mostly in caves, for at least 50,000 years. Their skin is white because they needed to absorb more Vitamin D.

Black people, on the other hand, were smart enough to live in a warm climate during the last ice age and didn't need all of the Vitamin D that they got from basking in the sun, therefore their pigmentation turned darker.

From where I sit, our Black brothers were the smarter race. They enjoyed sunshine, running around naked and feasting on Eden while your stupid ancestors cowered in caves and had to cover themselves with animal skins so they wouldn't die from the extreme cold.

SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU BUTCH UGLY ASS DYKE... YOU AND YOUR CARPET MUNCHING BITCH.... WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THESE SELFISH ASSHOLES? THE ECONOMY IS IN THE HOLE, THERE'S A WAR GOING ON AND PEOPLE HOMELESS AND STARVING AND ALL THAT OTHER SHIT AND THE ONLY THING THIS WORTHLESS HAG CAN DO IS COMPLAIN ABOUT NOT BEING RECOGNIZED FOR EATING PUSSY?
YOU GO RIGHT AHEAD AND STOP PAYING YOUR TAXES AND THE WORLD WILL BE LAUGHING AT YOU WHEN THEY THROW YOUR ASS IN MEN'S PRISON... STUPID DYKE

Typical fucking woman.....

.

This is not the time or place to be doing things like this. Doesn't she realize she has no rights anymore, citizen or not? Although if every single person who voted NO on Prop 8 refused to pay their taxes, well .. thats actually a pretty good statement to make as it would equal quite a large sum of money. She has balls for doing that. Ba dump bump.

What state do u live in? I live in texas and there strippers' nipples are free from pasties. We also have full nude clubs here. I'm not into some strangers beaver hovering over my drink but it's out there if you want it.

How is it that she doesn't have the same rights as everyone else? No one else can marry the same sex either. She has every right to marry someone of the opposite sex, just like everyone else. She just chooses not to.
Have fun in prison, dipshit.

Hi, I am from Argentina (South America), so first of all I apologize for my writing. (Since we are spanish speakers).

I've been reading about Proposition 8 in many american blogs for a long time. It's very interesting reading what some of you think about homosexuality.

I feel sory for the homosexual community in USA. Proposition 8 is pure ignorance. No one chooses being gay. No one chooses being straight. You don't wake up one day and 'decide' to fuck men or women You just don't decide. All you self-proclaimed 'normal' people just miss the fact that you never ever decided which gender to be attracted to. You grew up and developed unconsciously a certain attraction to men or women or both, regardless your own gender.

It is impossible for me to explain my hole point of view by a comment on Internet, and my english vocabulary is not so large. So, just think about it for a minute. Do I have the right to ban gay marriage? Why? Who In earth gave me that right? Why would I not allow two people who love each other just as I love my 'normal' wife/husband/girlfriend/boyfriend to get married?

YOU in your hands have the power to BAN two complete random STRANGERS the chance of geting married. What a huge responsibility.

It's a shame what happened. Prejudice, ignorance, intolerance, need of superiority, hate, etc. Nations worldwide mourn your point of view.

I hope, in 40~50 years, you will look back at time and see what a nonsense all this was and how stupid and hateful you were.


PS: Argentina might be economically fucked up, but we have our thoughts clear in other ways.

@ 74 racist bigot...jump in a time machine and transport your ass back to the day when this shit was acceptable...cause in the year 2008...you're nothing but some fucking jeebus lovin' redneck.

So she doesn't have to pay taxes because common sense and the California people agree that their shortly lived "right" to marry was overturned, supposedly making her less equal?

Should I refuse to pay my higher rate of taxes because I'm only as equal as some welfare cheat? Why should I be punished more if we're the same? Should I refuse to pay my taxes because the government limits my ability to bear arms? Should I refuse to pay my taxes because of the constant restriction of free speech in America today?

BTW - Shep, you give hope to everyone who believes that the American educational system lags behind much of the developed world.

Seems fair to me.

I she's being denied EQUAL rights, then she shouldn't have to pay taxes - it's the same argument that we used to revolt against England.

It won't work, of course. She doesn't have enough people backing her, so she'll be fined or arrested, but she is right.

Prop 8 should never have even come to a vote. Segregation was declared unconstitutional decades ago. Discriminating against sexual orientation is just the same as discriminating about race.

Gay marriage (for or against) is not a legislative matter, it's a judicial one. The courts should have upheld the rights of gays to marriage as within the already established laws.

I think Ms. Etheridge has forgotten that the citizens of California had already voted to ban gay marriage, prior to four judges deciding that their opinions were more important that those millions of Californians with whom they disagreed. The public simply voted to return to the original decision. Democracy does not survive in a society where a few judges can override the will of the people.

Well we will see what President Obama has to say about that, since he's going to tax these rich people up their asses.

Wow. I just want to thank The Superficial for allowing this open forum because it has reminded me that there are a lot of ugly, ignorant people out there who don't have a clue. This world is shitty.

Mos, Jesus Christ, God and Lou Diamond Phillips can all go eat a fat dick because I know that's what you guys really want to do you suppressed closet cock suckers; I know your fathers hated you but don't take it out on the gays.

The truth is no one should be allowed to get married. Its a horrible institution that was created thousands of years ago to oppress women and make men angry and fat. Marriage fosters co-dependency and amplifies insecurities. 90% of marriages in America end in divorce anyways; Its a fucking joke.

However ridiculous it is if it is granted to one person it should be granted to everyone.

@80... I take it that you're a carpet munching butch bitch also... Follow your leader, Melickapussy Eth here and stop paying your taxes. I'll be front and center laughing at your ugly being tossed in men's prison also and getting ass fucked with a baton. Call me what you want, don't change who the fuck you are. If you went to school like you were told to, you'd be able to make sense of what I wrote and see that I'm not bashing gays or lesbians... I'm just bashing this bitch. But since you decided to add your dyke 2 cents, you're included in my bashing. Sit behind your computer and write all the hate filled BS you want. That's all you'll ever be able to do... Idiotic fucktard

#73

Yeah, well if black people are so smart, how come tribes of black people that have gone undiscovered for thousands of years are running around with plates in their lips, bones through their noses, eating maggots, and throwing spears and shit.?????

I am not against gay marriage, but this is typical liberal whining when they don't get their way.
She should start a grass roots campaign and get it back on the ballot! That is, when she gets up off the floor from her bitching and crying session.

Yeah dude -- an ignorant mob voting to eliminate a fundamental right is JUST LIKE feeling inconvenienced at a strip club.

This country never, EVER made marriage illegal. Even slaves could marry. We have never eliminated a minority's civil rights by amendment. We have only ever eliminated discriminatory constitutional language by amendment.

It provides some perspective that California will recognize the marriage of an incarcerated serial murderer and rapist. Perfectly fine and sacred, because the participants are straight.

But the marriages of law-abiding gays should not be recognized because there's just something about THAT behavior that makes people uncomfortable.

Idiots and hypocrites.

@76
whodidwhat - November 7, 2008 10:56 AM
"She has balls for doing that. Ba dump bump."

She probably has balls period.

Gay marriage is an abomination. What's next, let the perverts that enjoy beastialty marry their goats? Marriage is between a man and a woman!

But being gay isn't a choice right? It's genetic. That's the claim that pedofiles use too, "I was born this way" Should they have the same rights too? Maybe we should let a 45 year old man marry his 4 year old neighbor now. If you open the door for gay marriage, you have to open it for others too. CLOSE THE FUCKING DOOR! GET BACK IN THE CLOSET!

Melissa just quit your complicated lifestyle, then you'll be alright. She has a choice, she chooses to be lesbian, so she's getting what she wanted.

don't gays already get the same legal rights as married people through Civil Unions? Also you can thank president elect Obama for the passage of Prop 8.

Whaaaa, I didnt get my (gay) way.
It was voted on, the people spoke, deal with it.

Want some Irony?

100% of Melissa Etheridges music completely sucks cock, but Melissa Etherdge doesn't suck cock.

(kinda ironic since she doesn't suck cock but her music does)

;}

@23 problem is they tried that. Prop 8 was the most expensively opposed and supported state amendment in US history.
They tried being nice and doing things the legal way. It didn't work. It's time for something drastic.

And to some other posters... She said *state taxes* not federal taxes. Which means she would be dealing with the State of California Franchise Tax Board, not the IRS. Being a federal agency the IRS only deals with federal taxes. As long as she continues to pay those the IRS can't do a damn thing about it.

Everyone would be better served by a lawsuit than an act of civil disobedience that is guaranteed to get her in legal trouble. Proposition 8 violates the equal protection clause of the 14th amendment to the US constitution. And, there are adequate precedents to get the law overturned on that basis. Marriage is considered a fundamental right (Skinner v. Oklahoma) and bans on interracial marriage have been declared illegal by the supreme court on that basis, within the context of the 14th amendment (Loving v. Virginia). A test for when fundamental rights can be denied on the basis of gender was outlined in Mississippi University for Women v. Hogan: the party seeking to uphold a statute that discriminates on the basis of gender can meet the burden of showing an "exceedingly persuasive justification" which "must be applied free of fixed notions concerning the roles and abilities of males and females". Wengler v. Druggists Mutual Insurance Co. elaborated on the test, noting that the burden is met only by showing at least that the denial of fundamental rights serves "important governmental objectives, and that the discriminatory means employed’ are ‘substantially related to the achievement of those objectives".

Re: "The people voted. Get over it."
The people aren't always right. When Gallup began including the question "Do you approve or disapprove of marriages between whites and blacks?" in 1958, 96% of those answering disapproved. http://www.gallup.com/poll/28417/Most-Americans-Approve-Interracial-Marriages.aspx As noted above, Loving v. Virginia (1967) found that the masses could not deny interracial couples their fundamental right to marry per the 14th amendment.

Bigotry makes me sad and angry. If I were gay and wanting to be married, I would be out there challenging my local statutes based on the protections afforded to me under the constitution. Because I am not, I can't legally claim to be harmed by the laws. But, I am. And, so is everyone else. Laws and governmental policies shaped by racism and sexism are nearly always a disservice to everyone.

lmao 44.

#87

Crack me up!!

Because they can. You said it yourself. They have survived for thousands of years like that.

We, on the other hand, are destroying ourselves with narrow minded bigotry, all within a few hundred years.

Jews vs Muslims. Blacks vs Whites. Democrats vs. Republicans. Gay vs Straight. Christians vs, well, everyone it seems.

Uh, if you didn't notice this is one earth and mankind, in general, is fucking it up.

Do your part to fix it. Please do not breed.

#83 When segregation was declared unconstitutional and full legal equal rights were given to blacks the majority of American citizens were against it. The judges made a decision, against the will of the people, because it was right and necessary.
When the federal government tried to outlaw slavery, there were so many people against it that it led to a civil war.

Part of being a leader is doing what is necessary and right - even if their constituents disagree.

And for the record, we don't live in a democracy, we live in a republic, which means, among other things, we occasionally voluntarily give up our individual voice to our leaders who (ideally) may be better situated to make certain decisions that we are aren't in a position too.

Equal rights!

What a bunch of crap that LDS funded such a horrible piece of legislation. They should be embarassed.

I will ban any LDS business from now on.

I would gladly let her and all the Califucks give up paying taxes, as long as they give up their right to vote too..... then maybe the USA can work the way it was designed to. We are a REPUBLIC people, not a Democracy. We are DEMOCRATIC, but not a Democracy.... read a little bit. Hard workers are supposed to get to keep what they work for. Fuck the poor, get off your ass if you want a playstation!

Melissa is a wrong.

You have to pay state taxes, even if you are not a citizen. This has been shown over and over again.

Get. Over. Yourself.

The people voted. All gays have the SAME civil rights and legal right. This is not about equality - YOU ALREADY HAVE IT - bu rather it is about forcing acceptance. The majority of voter in CA are not ready to do that.

Listen gay scum- nobody gives a fuck about your gay rights, so get over it. Go back to your little gay community and have a tea party or an fuckfest. We have much more serious issues to worry about. Whaaaaaah you'll never be accepted whaaaah!

Regardless of what side you are on in all of this the word HOMOPHOBIC is being bandied around far too much. Broken down, it is the "fear of human beings". I have lots of gay people in my life and do not FEAR them although I am straight and don't fly that way. Marriage is a church institution, the government should have no say, the "people" should have no say. Until the church (whichever one that is) decides to change this law, it's not up for debate. It's just the way it is. But please stop labelling everyone that disagrees with the gays a HOMOPHOBE or shall we start calling gays & lesbians and all that support their cause STRAIGHTAPHOBES. Fuck, I need to go smoke a bowl.

She no longer is a valid celebrity so she makes this statement saying she will no longer pay taxes. Hey Melissa Douchbag - marriage is between a man AND a women!! Get over it!!

#100 It looks like you and #97 are on the same wavelength, although #97 said it better.

#91 Marriage, whether it be gay or straight, would still require it to be done by CONSENTING ADULTS. Neither animals, nor 4 year olds qualify.
Stop being an idiot.

@105

Agreed. "Homophobic" is a loaded, propagandist term. See, "anti-homosexuality" sounds too legitimate for gay activists' purposes. I mean, surely anybody has the right to disagree, no?

C'mon you're not second class.......more like an "abomination"

C'mon you're not second class.......more like an "abomination"

#43, as a Canadian you are merely the hat, sorry chapeau, of the United States. So, umm, fuck off.

Wesley Snipes tried to be super smart like your diatribe and lost fucktard.

Go home, eh.

if you want to talk about taxation without representation, dc has a much bigger claim to change that since we're actually recognized by the gov. and, we're so pissed it's even on our license plates :)

#102

I feel the same way. Why should we want to help the less fortunate.

Uncle Poo, thanks for backing me up there. I never comment on these things but it's Friday and work is boring the shit outta me up here in Ontario (apparently the "HAT/CHAPEAU" of the US according to 111 Sport). Whatev man, we've been called worse, eh!!!

To all of you on here, I don't give a rats what side you are on. I just wanted to thank you all very very much for filling my otherwise boring paper pushing weekdays with your hilarious comments. I usually read the article and get jacked up with my own opionion and then read yours and see things in a myriad of different colours. I love you all!!! Gotta go watch a hockey game on TSN somewhere. God bless the US and good luck with the new guy.

@111

Wow, that's a positively scorching insult. Got anymore t-shirts to read off of?

@113
Helping the less fortunate by choice is a noble and worthy cause.
Helping the less fortunate by law and the judicial system is absolute bullshit.

@102
Thanks Harry. Well said.
Great point with the facts to back it up.

after the last week i have got to remember that while reading The Superficial is fun, reading the comments just makes me fucking sick. i hope to God that most of the racist, homophobic and elitist comments are coming from the same retarded 12 year old boy. otherwise, it doesn't matter who's president, who can marry who or whatever because the whole world is fucking doomed to despair and misery served up by our own heartless fellow humans.

@James - November 7, 2008 11:20 AM
"#23 problem is they tried that. Prop 8 was the most expensively opposed and supported state amendment in US history. They tried being nice and doing things the legal way. It didn't work. It's time for something drastic."

Civil rights is not something that comes over night. It takes MANY years of sacrifice, doing without and hard work. Just ask Martin Luther King. I do not see her doing anything but, complaining and inciting activities which will, ultimately, do NOTHING to support her cause. It's easy to sit on ones backside and say "I won't pay taxes"...it much harder to get out there on a regular basis and protest what you feel is unjust. Granted, prop-8 is unethical/unjust but, not paying your taxes is like standing before an injured veteran and saying--"I'm going to protest this and the Iraq War by not paying my taxes" --the very taxes which help support veterans health care. Her method is trite, unproductive and speaks volumes of her character.

"Law and order exist for the purpose of establishing justice, and... when they fail to do this purpose they become dangerously structured dams that block the flow of social progress."--Martin Luther King, Jr.

I love how the people who support prop 8 all say something completely rude and ignorant, showing how uneducated they are. Sure, "all she needs is a stiff dick". That just might "fix" all the lesbians. Does anyone pay attention at all? She's pissed because they had this right and it was taken away! If anyone had any other right and it was taken away, they would be pissed, no matter how small. No one can give any real reason why gays shouldnt have equal rights that isn't completely religion based. So we all have to be catholic now or something? Honestly, how would someones life in sacramento be changed if a couple in san fran got married. I hope that both sides start talking like adults and not 4 year olds. And does everyone honestly believe she's really not going to pay taxes? Can't she be sarcastic? And even if that's what she decided to do, she has less rights now than everyone else. She brings up a really good point!

I love how the people who support prop 8 all say something completely rude and ignorant, showing how uneducated they are. Sure, "all she needs is a stiff dick". That just might "fix" all the lesbians. Does anyone pay attention at all? She's pissed because they had this right and it was taken away! If anyone had any other right and it was taken away, they would be pissed, no matter how small. No one can give any real reason why gays shouldnt have equal rights that isn't completely religion based. So we all have to be catholic now or something? Honestly, how would someones life in sacramento be changed if a couple in san fran got married. I hope that both sides start talking like adults and not 4 year olds. And does everyone honestly believe she's really not going to pay taxes? Can't she be sarcastic? And even if that's what she decided to do, she has less rights now than everyone else. She brings up a really good point!

Remember the good old days when homo's just stayed in the closet.

Now every little special interest group wants to have a voice.

The bottom line is she has to pay. EVERYONE can think of a law they don't like or preach about how something is unfair. None of that matters she has to pay it's the law. If she doesn't want to pay then she should get the issue on ballot to vote on (which will never happen). If she doesn't pay why the hell should anyone else? There are people who've had it much worse than her in life.

@79
"It is impossible for me to explain my hole point of view by a comment on Internet..."


Ironically, with one simple mispelling, you did.

@#120

The only reason they had the "right" to get married before was because some Liberal activist judges who felt they could write law from the bench said it was okay. They brought it before the people, and the people said no way....again...

Also, all lesbians really can be cured with a stiff dick. It's in medical journals.

Shut up God

I only own a bicycle, but I want to drive it on the highway. Why does the state keep discriminating against me by not letting my drive my bicycle on the highway?

Wait are they regulating a behavior? I guess that's okay then.

Last I checked, she can get married, just not to another woman. Same rule applies to us all. There's no discrimination there.

I only own a bicycle, but I want to drive it on the highway. Why does the state keep discriminating against me by not letting my drive my bicycle on the highway?

Wait are they regulating a behavior? I guess that's okay then.

Last I checked, she can get married, just not to another woman. Same rule applies to us all. There's no discrimination there.

@118
"Law and order exist for the purpose of establishing justice, and... when they fail to do this purpose they become dangerously structured dams that block the flow of social progress."--Martin Luther King, Jr.

You should send this to MLK's children.
I have had the unfortunate opportunity of living in the same geographical location as these ass clowns (his off spring that is).
They have been suing each others asses of for three years over mom and dads fortune or whats left of it.
An absolute disgrace on his legacy.

Tina, She knew this "right" was most likely to be taken away. She should not be surprised. Where do we stop the "equal rights"? Can 11 year old girls that "love" 40 year old men get married? Should men that "love" their sheep be able to get married? It sounds silly but so did this 30 years ago.

What I do not get is how all of you fucking retard christian assholes think that someone else's personal life is your business. Go molest your alter boys. Wait, you are already doing that...

Scooby - you are an idiot. You cannot ride a bike on teh freeway because you will injure yourself or someone else. This has nothing to do with safety and everything to do with christian morals being pushed on everyone else. SO now it is okay to fuck little boys, but two consenting adult females cannot be happy together. Fuck christianity! Fuck it right in the ass!

@128. The Crow
That's a shame. But you know what they say: "He that troubleth his own house shall inherit the wind"

I don't care what dyke Etheridge does in her personal life, I just wish she could stop that nose dripping off her face like a melting candle...

Uhm, at #130
Yeah.
That's really productive.
You should keep your big mouth out of subjects that you have nothing more to say than retarded comments. You're stupid. People like you are the reason why Prop 8 got passed. No one wants to follow the inarticulate moron.

I don't agree with gay marriage but I don't agree against discrimination based on one's sexual orientation. I believe that her feeling of being a second class citizen is founded and I agree. Why should you live and pay into a society that sees you as a threat, let the fanatics/evangelicals who by the way are tax exempt pick up the tab. I thought separation of church and state was establish so things like these wouldn't happen. It seems that California should also start looking at loopholes that these churches and affiliated groups use to politically influence governments so that tax can be picked up from these organizations. Once again I don't believe in gay marriage, but I believe in the freedom of others to pursue happiness, just like I have not being married but living with someone, this would make evangelicals sneer, but that's what my shotguns for.

Wow no surprise the world thinks Americans are stupid!!! I am amazed and repulsed by all the ignorant and stupid comments I read here. I'm not from the US (thank God!!) and I really don't understand where all this stupidness comes from, isn't the US supposed to be a country founded on freedom??

In my country education implies teaching values such as TOLERANCE... what values do they teach in the USA?? Or better said, do you have any values at all?? (HINT: war is not a value) Geez, I feel sorry for you Americans, you live in the most powerful country in the world yet in terms of values you are a third world country.. the worst one I think.

PS. I am not gay, I simply think they should be able to marry the person they love, just like everyone else

Wow no surprise the world thinks Americans are stupid!!! I am amazed and repulsed by all the ignorant and stupid comments I read here. I'm not from the US (thank God!!) and I really don't understand where all this stupidness comes from, isn't the US supposed to be a country founded on freedom??

In my country education implies teaching values such as TOLERANCE... what values do they teach in the USA?? Or better said, do you have any values at all?? (HINT: war is not a value) Geez, I feel sorry for you Americans, you live in the most powerful country in the world yet in terms of values you are a third world country.. the worst one I think.

PS. I am not gay, I simply think they should be able to marry the person they love, just like everyone else

@137 the only reason why you read these stupid comments is because that freedom that is denied to others is allowed for others. Such as "digital stupids" to post dumb comments on websites like these, and hate mongers to post hate online. American democracy is nothing more than a buzz-term, they like change the way other countries live (mostly those with some natural resource they need) and establish that their ways are undemocratic, yet back home people are judged by religion, color, sex, and in this case preference. No wonder Iraq, Afghanistan, and pretty much any influence of America around the world is failing, no one is scared and no one cares.

@130. Jonathan
"fucking retard christian assholes.."

That just made your entire point moot and is just as hateful as those you pretend to feel superior too. It is true that Christian extremists forget fundamental teachings of the bible and do more harm than good. However, your statement generalizes an entire section of the populace that is contrived of many different Christian denomination. Men of faith have been paving the way for civil rights for many years. Your comments do men like-- Rev. Brent Hawkes, Rev. Bishop Mark Holmerud of the Sierra Pacific Synod of the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America; the Rev. Rick Schlosser, Executive Director of the California Council of Churches; the Rev. Mary Susan Gast, Conference Minister of the Northern California Nevada Conference, United Church of Christ; the Rt. Rev. Marc Handley Andrus, Episcopal Bishop of California; and the Rev. Lindi Ramsden, Executive Director of the Unitarian Universalist Legislative Ministry-- an EXTREME injustice.

Who says marriage is between a man and a woman?
common sense? noooo
human law? nooooo !!
human ... nature? nooooo !!!

ohhh, yes! the HOLY BIBLE!

and we were wondering where all this shit was coming from

'who needs reason whe we have the holy bible!' yeahhhh we christian are sooo intelligents!!! lets follow the rules from a book made by humans almost 2000 years agooo!!! yeaahhhh!!!

oh no, wait, it wasn't made by humans you heretic bitch! it was sent by OUR HOLY GODDDDD, NEVER TRANSLATED, TRANSCRIPTED NOR MODIFIED by humans!! yeahhh

but dear priest, regardless our stupidity of believing in this book, why do we only follow 'some' rules instead of others??

erhhhmmm... I don't know son, but please suck my cock and don't tell your mother....


its matter of time before religion vanish from our time... i hope it will be asap.

But how will she be able to spread her wealth?

#52 you are a jackass. Yes, I made a mistake in my first comment (45) and corrected it in #46. The constitution is not religious and nothing that is based on religious beliefs should be added to it.

"RELIGION is the thing that says marriage is between a man and woman - and no where in the constitution does it bring up religion."

EQUALITY!!!!!

I'm not going to pay my taxes until they make 4 a Prime Number!!! Seriously, how come 1,2,3,5,7,11, etc... get to be "Prime" numbers? Are you saying that 4 isn't as good as those other numbers?

When the government says that 4 is only divisible by itself and 1, then I will gladly pay my taxes. Until then, no fucking way!!!!

Come to Tampa, dude. We have full out nude girls dancing on stage.

No chicken wings allowed here.

@123
Nice!

@139
AND the state of California.

This election showed some pretty ugly things about the America of today, people didn't vote Obama not because they were anti-democrat but because he was black. Some long time democrats voted republican for this purpose, some believe the intolerant media and believed that president Obama was a terrorist because of his name. Instead they wanted to vote for an honorable man like Sen. Mccain who was made honorable by a government who had no business in south-east asia. Once again these heroes, dead soldiers fighting an illegal war it's just sad that their lives were wasted in vein, and only covered by a media that is covering their vein with lies about democracy, when in reality it's nothing.

Actually the bible doesn't discriminate against marriage of gay people, it only says that you should commit acts of sodomy, and lay with another (sex) of the same sex as a man lays with a woman. So technically being married and gay isn't anti-god unless you give into your urges. If people read the bible and stopped listening to Focus on the Family they find out that lots of things are actually allowed but with certain limits.

@142

Religion AND the state of California.

I'm fairly certain that the US constitution stipulates that there be no religious test for public office. That constitutes a mention of religion in my book. You're disappointed?! I'm not even American and I know there's mention of religion in the US constitution.

You should pay your taxes, He said to them,

'Then give to Caesar what is Caesar's and unto God what is God's.'

so you should pay your taxes

So many things to fisk here ... Let's get at it:

1 - She has the same right to marry a man that a straight woman has. Same rights. A straight woman is no more able to marry a woman than a gay one. Same rights. The proposition was to create a NEW right, for all people.

2. Looking forward to the additional tax revenue, eh? This is one thing I don't understand. Married couples pay a tax penalty under the federal system. Do they pay the same penalty in California, or is it a credit? Why would you want to pay more? This does not pass the smell test. I call bullshit.

3. To the people that keep claiming that religion is not in the constitution ... You need to read it again. "We hold these truths to be self-evident...all men are...
endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights. That to secure these rights, governmentsare instituted among men." It goes from God, to men, to the government, to your wallet. There are countless examples of this in not only the federal constitution, but the declaration of independence, and each and every state constitution. Like it or not, this country was founded by white christians. Deal with it.

4. Proposition 8 was part of the legal democratic process of government for the people, by the people. The people were given a chance to vote, and they voted. The measure passed. That is democracy people, fair-and-square. DEAL WITH IT.

As far as I am concerned, California can secede and become an independent republic again. Go for it. I could not give two shits less.

Anyone notice that it was B. Hussein Obama that caused Prop 8 to pass? Yeah ... 'magine that. Who voted overwhelmingly in favor of Prob 8, when all other races where equally split? Blacks. Who got the blacks to go vote? You're welcome.

Dear Whiner,

Welcome to democracy. Now grow up and get over it. This whole discrimination thing is just bullshit. You want to live with someone, live with them. Nobody gives a fuck.

You want to will them your whole estate? What's stopping you? You want to dress up like Ken and Barbie's wedding, have fun.

But I believe Christians, Muslims, Druids, Atheists, and a whole host of other people have rights to, and they reserve the term and the contract called "Marriage" for one man and one woman.

This is nothing more than that. You can make the same contract. You can sue in court when Anne Heche wakes up and says "I don't love you anymore, I'm going out to the desert to be insane," just like married people do.

You have your new president. What, is half the country supposed to not pay the IRS because they didn't vote for him?

What a frigging whiner.

And you wonder why people don't like you?

Huh. I'm a little stunned that someone who obviously voted for the "be more patriotic and pay more taxes" ticket, is suddenly refusing to pay taxes.

Celebrities, gay or straight are mostly primadonna assholes. They are used to getting what they want. Well now, SURPRISINGLY the people of California, the most liberal state in the union, voted against gay marriage. WTF????

Shocking.

To the above poster who said 90% of marriage ends in divorce:
A: that number is ridiculously inaccurate.
B: If that's the case, why do gays even want to get married in the first place?

This isn't taxation without representation! You elected representatives who voted to allow state referendums based on the wishes of the majority of the state residents. This is the very definition of the system working. I don't like most of the laws on the books, but there is a system to repeal them. The people of California have now voted gay marriage down twice now, stop subverting the will of the people and just deal with the fact that they don't support gay marriage. Majority rules.

QUE NO MAME!!!!!!!

Damn she's brilliant! Well, San Francisco shot down Prop K decriminalizing prostitution, basically taking away my rights to frequent whores. So, I'm done with paying taxes too. You rock Melissa!

#148 - That's the worst argument ever.

http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html

Besides the first amendment, which gives us the freedom of religion, tell me where it says the state can choose to impose religious rights to people.

More to the point, show me where it says we can discriminate against individuals based on sexual preference.

Also...

This has nothing to do with her throwing a fit because her side didn't win (speaking of any presidential candidates, propositions, etc). It is about her rights as a human being taken away.

Think about this scenario from a race point of view. If it was just added to the constitution that you were no longer able to vote because Jesus is white and the white race is superior, would you still feel that you have to pay taxes, seeing as you wouldn't have the same rights as the rest of society?

It is the same as you straight people believing you and your religion is superior and taking the right to marry away from people that are not straight. You were born black, they are born gay.

YOU get over YOURSELF.

@150

Well said DJ.
That last paragraph is dead nuts on the money.
Thank you.

I was listening to the radio (I know, what's that?) and they had these high-priced liberal lawyers talking about the recent decision. They basically said, "even though the WHIM of the majority has been passed, we need to protect the rights of the minority... blah blah blah..." They went on to talk about how the system only works when their views are approved/voted on (though they'd never say it quite that plainly), and that whenever a law is passed or repealed that doesn't support their views, that the majority is trampling their rights. I HATE people that talk like that. Etheridge is the same. Happy when the law was passed ('cause it suited her WANTS), unhappy when other peoples' are expressed and realized. So wishy-washy. GRRRRR... smash!

I saw she has a personal blog on ^^^^^^MillionaireLoving. C O M^^ ^^^^, a private site for millionaire & celebrity I heard of from a friend of mine. Does she want to hook up with rich guys?

I agree with Melissa!! Whatever happened to separation of church and state? Most people for prop 8 argue that its not God's way to be gay...we'll that's your religion. Stop letting your religious beliefs flood the political system. These people have the right to believe what they want, just like you do!

First off, no one has a right to marriage. It isn't a "right"

Second, her use of the phrase "No taxation without representation" pretty much illustrates how fucking stupid she is considering the historical use of that phrase has absolutely nothing to do with what she is implying.

Does this bitch even have a high-school education?

Good, now you can rot in jail before you burn in hell.

The people have decided that gays are a noxious breed in California. It is done. If she is so upset about it, she can move to Massachusetts, where they are embraced. In fact, by mandate, they give lesbians a uniformed job ... I think they call them Red Sox.

"Does she want to hook up with rich guys?"

Uh, no...

"In fact, by mandate, they give lesbians a uniformed job ... I think they call them Red Sox."

Close - they call them Yankees. Their lesbian leader is called A-Rod (see pictures above of his life-mate Madonna).

Homosexuality is a social/psychological disorder. It's just like if someone is a pedophile or an anorexic, etc....

It can be cured through treatment and prayer. If that doesn't work, GOD has his own cure, AIDS.....

150 -

1. Actually straight people have the right to marry a person who they romantically love and/or are sexually attracted to. Gay people do not. Therefore, they do not have equal rights.

3. Believing in God does not make a person religious, the country may be founded on theism but not religion. And many of the founding fathers were agnostics and atheists, so the country was not wholly founded by white christians.

4. Well we should definitely vote as to whether black people should be slaves, or if interracial couples should be allowed to America.

Logic, Reason, and Compassion all vote against Prop 8.

Remember when this wretched dyke came on some show with her head all bald and shit, looking like the San Francisco version of Mr Clean.

She sang a Janis Joplin song, and changed the words to suit her gayness.

From Piece of My Heart

Janis lyrics: "Didn't I make you feel...like you were the only MAN...."

Bull-dyke lyrics: "Didn't I make you feel....like you were the only ONE...."


She's singing a classic song and takes it upon her gay self to change the lyric, apparently since she's so fucking gay that if she even said anything about loving a Man her gay bald head would explode. Fuck you Etheridge. I wish California could also take away your right to sing crappy fucking music.

Lou Diamond Phillips is just gotta be looking at this fucking three-toed Sloth and saying "How the fuck did I lose my wife to this fucking creature????"

My heart goes out to you Lou, and you were great in La Bamba

WOW...this all makes me sooo sad...I wonder if all you people spewing hatred would say this to someones face...seems that annonymity brings out the worst in people...I especially feel sad for the poeple who claim to be religious...what's wrong with people????

WOW...this all makes me sooo sad...I wonder if all you people spewing hatred would say this to someones face...seems that annonymity brings out the worst in people...I especially feel sad for the poeple who claim to be religious...what's wrong with people????

WOW...this all makes me sooo sad...I wonder if all you people spewing hatred would say this to someones face...seems that annonymity brings out the worst in people...I especially feel sad for the poeple who claim to be religious...what's wrong with people????

#163

It is NOT done.

#166

We need to pass a law to be able to shoot bigots like you for all the hate you are spreading.

Here are some indisputible facts about homosexuality:
1) about 68% of the world's cultures do NOT have problems with it one form or another. Look into anthropological studies - they've been done. It is a product of our judeo-christian society to hate it and feel shame about our sexuality.
2) It has existed in cultures throughout history and across the world. So if it's unnatural, why has it always been? There have even been instances where researchers have found homosexuality occur in the animal kingdom - but those animals just 'chose' to be that way, right?
3) When Judaism was being formed there were no social mores against homosexuality in those early societies, but what's the fastest way to get your religion to catch on? Breeding - so homosexuality is bad and boom population growth!

I always thought that Melissa Etheridge seemed cool. My state also passed some stupid and bigoted legislation, but there's no state income tax so that protest won't work here.

BTW, I'm straight and married. I want gays to have the same rights as me. My marriage is not threatened by gay people. I wish more straight people would stand up for this equality.

Now, now...with everybody talking about homosexuality being an abnormal condition, I have to point out that all men have homosexual fantasies. Some are comfortable about that, others deny it and become extremely angry when confronted with any issue related to homosexuality. So that's why conservatives are mostly angry men. Once in a while it all becomes public rather than hidden: Mark Foley, Larry Craig, Rev. Ted Haggard.

To those of you who are well-adjusted, especially in terms of your own sexuality, please try to remain patient with these angry, conflicted men. And keep in mind that all their political heroes just got stomped, so it seems to them right now that nobody will come to the rescue and deliver them from their feverish penis dreams. They need our compassion now more than ever.

"she and I are not allowed the same right under the state constitution as any other citizen"

Melissa Etheridge IS allowed the same right as any other citizen in California: She is allowed to marry a person of the opposite sex.

I don't know where these people get off thinking this proposition meant homosexuals are "second class citizens."

And to be honest, I don't see why this is so important to gays. Marriage is a RELIGIOUS INSTITUTION. No religion accepts any kind of gay partnerships, and passing a law isn't going to make the church recognize it either. Prop 8 didn't take ANYTHING away from them: They get the same tax exemptions and benefits in a civil union.

The gays in California did not loose any rights. They have the same exact rights that we all have.

As a willing single unmarried adult man I can marry a willing single unrelated unmarried adult woman. Period. I can't marry my mother, sister, daughter, 12-year-old girlfriend or 3 women at one time. It wouldn't matter if they were all willing and it would make us all happy. I can't marry them under the laws of this country.

Homosexuals have exactly that same right.

So it's either all or nothing. We can all marry anyone and everyone that we want, or you limit it to the definition that has worked for thousands of years for all but a few freak societies (that didn't survivie very long I might add).

The people have spoken. If you don't like it, propose a new amendment. But to not pay taxes is just asking to go to jail for a very long time, and that isn't a nice plact to be!!!!!

#173.....
You said it is "natural because it has always been". So has rape and murder but we have laws against them as well.

I am a straight woman who had the right to marry the person that I fell in love with, and I believe that everyone should be blessed with that same right. Does it bother you that your female neighbor may want to spend the rest of her life with a woman? Why does anyone care? I dont understand why they cannot. There is no harm to anyone else.

Marrying your daughter, uncle, sister, etc. is called incest and brings HARM, that is why it is regulated. Marrying a goat is not consentual - but if you found a talking goat, then go ahead, who cares!? As for the old man marrying a four year old - that is why the marrying age is regulated. Gays and lesbians are not asking to marry children. These are silly arguments.

And the worst one was riding a bike on the freeway - moron.

Come up with a real reason for why there should be no same sex marriages. Go ahead, try - we'll wait. Pretty difficult, huh?

@173

quit lieing to suit your point. There are no homosexuals in the animal kingdom, even if there were, their DNA wouldn't be passed along because they wouldn't reproduce, they just die.

If you took a whole colony of gay animals, and isolated them, they'd all die and be extinct.

The only thing that allows the gay gene to pass is with the help of science

#180 - there are infertile males and females in every animal population. By your logic, that shouldn't ever happen. Please return to the 5th grade and repeat your science instruction. Thank you.

#179

DITTO!!!!

Liberals are so intolerant. If they don't get their way they become angry little freaks. They only preach tolerance of what they believe in.

less than 1% of the population is gay.

on the other hand, 100% of Melissa Etheridge music sucks cock.

Although Melissa herself doesn't suck cock.

#183 - I'm afraid I have to agree with you. The only reason I'm not an angry little freak today is that we completely kicked your ass all across the country on Tuesday.

Equal rights my ass! They, like the nigro, are a PROTECTED class, which defies the constitution that all have certain, unalienable rights. In these cases, they are not content to settle for more rights than their non-homo, majority race bretherin, they want their cake and for it to be served as well.

As to this being a choice as opposed to genetic. The thrifty gene theory would have made fudgepacking and fisting a thing of the past long ago, as only the genes that promote procreation are passed to the next generation.

Using the argument that it is genetic, makes clear that you also believe that humans having sex with livestock a genetic condition as well. THEY ARE THE SAME THING!

ok so since 52% voted for prop 8 you don't have to pay your taxes, ok right how about since 52% voted for Obama I get to have McCain Palin.
GET WITH IT I HAVE.
Melissa listen carefully:
The people voted in 2000 to ban same sex marriage. Nevermind that 62% of the PEOPLE OF CALIFORNIA felt so. You little gay activest lawyers shopped it around and in 2008 found some corrupt judges to OVERTURN what the people of California voted for. So we vote again and the PEOPLE OF CALIFORNIA simply say that the WORD marriage is between 1 man and 1 women. You still have all you rights NOTHING WAS TAKEN AWAY.
I don't like Obama, I didn't vote for him BUT HE WAS ELECTED BY THE PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTRY so he IS MY PRESIDENT. I will teach my children to respect this man... do you get it???
You can't pick and chose what you want we are all AMERICANS. What you do in your bedroom is YOUR BUSINESS. Quit trying to RAM IN DOWN MY THOUGHT.
As a side note I voted against prop 22 back in 2000. What changed me to vote in favor of prop 8 this year was the judges ignoring what the people of California vote for. I am not against gay people, don't hate them, don't want to keep them down (really I was born and grew up in San Francisco). When I see my children being taught about gay issues in school I put my foot down.

The only reason Prop 8 passed was because of the misleading, and erroneous propaganda that was shown 24-7. Some people didn't even know they were freaking amending the Constitution with there vote, they thought they were "protecting the children." The intolerance that still exists in this country is appalling. If all these bigots would have invested there money in funding McCain instead of this ridiculous law, maybe he wouldn't have been more broke than Haiti at the end of his campaign. The only thing that makes me happy is, even if gays can't marry any more, at least we still have a BLACK president...this country has Jungle Fever. All you bigots have to stare at him everyday, and know that the most powerful man in the world is BLACK, BLACK, BLACK. I don't even know why people in middle America are Republican, it's not like they're rich whites like us in California, and if I have money and I'm a democrat, what is there excuse? And yes, my boobs are fake and proud of them. I need my gays to be happy so they can make me look fabulous everyday. Bring it on bitches!

So when will it be "National Change-A-Conservative's-Diaper Day"?

Your presidential candidate lost to Obama. Your governors lost to their Democratic opponents. Your senators lost to their Democratic opponents. Your representatives lost to their Democratic opponents. Melissa Etheridge's hissy fit is a tiny, tiny, tiny thing. You look ridiculous getting so worked up about it, like you're clinging to anything you can find to keep your rant going, so you can ignore what happened. The big day was Tuesday. You lost big. Time to dry your bitter tears and move on.

While it's true that the Bible does frown of homosexuality, it also:
Supports slavery
Urges that a disobedient child be killed
Wearing poly-blend clothing is a sin
The list goes on.

The church has, through word and deed, made clear that not everything in the Bible is meant to be taken literally.
They acknowledge that the Bible was influenced by the culture and politics of 2,000 years ago and needs to be adapted to the modern world and values.

What yard-stick are they using to decide when to obey the bible word-for-word and when to ignore it?

This is one of those things the Bible and the Church got wrong.

People who say they are against gay marriage, or homosexuality, because the Bible says so are LYING.
They don't give a crap about the Bible or God. If they did they would obey every command and every prohibition in the Bible, and there is not a single person on this planet that does so.

If God's commands are absolute, then ALL of his commands are absolute. You can't pick and choose what parts of the Bible to follow.
We make decisions based on our own values and say God commands it to give it more weight.
God is not there to be used to justify your beliefs.

If God exists and God is Love, then God is not Hate. Make up your minds.

#183 does kind of have a point... I am agnostic but any talk of God has been banished from schools for the sake of not offending those who do not share the same belief in such a being. There is no tolerance regarding that issue or any encouragement of those who do not believe in God to tolerate the beliefs of others and those upon which this county were founded. However, when it comes to tolerating gays society/schools have no problem cramming that shit down kids' throats even though some parents may not be in agreement in the name of tolerance. Bottom line, God, gay and traditional marriage have no business being taught in schools. Let's stick to math, science, and english.

Also, someone's 27 year old son wants to marry his boyfriend which the parents may or may not agree with but it is his right to be happy, consent and also his sexual preference. Cool. So someday when your 12 year old daughter wants to marry her 32 year old boy friend she/he will also be preaching tolerance based on sexual preference, doing what makes him/her happy and consent. 50 years ago most viewed gay marriage as harmful as well due to the gender issue and not being traditionally correct. Right now incest/marrying with children is not accepted due to an age issue. It is only a matter of time when one will lead to the other and any rules that bind society will gradually be non-existent.

Don't worry Melissa, the California Supreme Court will overrule this b.s. Amendments weren't created to take rights AWAY from people. It's ridiculous. Just more of the right-wing crazies trying to impose their selective religious 'beliefs' (aka prejudices) on the rest of us. Fuck 'em. They can't keep this country in the dark ages forever.

And yeah, if gay people marry it's just RUIN the sanctity of marriage. Wait, isn't there a 50% divorce rate and can't you have a drive through wedding in Vegas? Yes, such a precious, well respected, institution.

#177 says:
"So it's either all or nothing. We can all marry anyone and everyone that we want, or you limit it to the definition that has worked for thousands of years for all but a few freak societies (that didn't survivie very long I might add)."

Where do you get the impression that your "definition" has worked?!
(divorce, infidelity, abuse)
Why does it have to be all or nothing?

This is the beginning of the comeback! I can see it! I can see it! You commielibruls have NOT defeated us! You and dalibrulmedia will not win!

SARAH PALIN WILL LEAD US TO REDEMPTION!!!

As she said in her Pentecostal church yesterday, during a "welcome back" service, "Argle bargle glooka slobber blartogger gniff blerft geenikt klepwoop madurta wonkaburble durgle!"

PRAISE JEEZUZ!!!

USA! USA! USA! USA! USA! USA! USA! USA! USA! USA! USA! USA! USA! USA!

Yeeeeah, ya know, I just want to say there that all the pro-America Joe Sixpacks know that marriage is a sacred institution between two unwilling teenagers after one of 'em, ya know, puts his jahoozits there in the other one's quivering hoo-hoo and makes a baaaaybee there. It's Gawd's law, dontcha know. You can't even throw back the defective ones, boy-howdy did I learn that one the hard way there! I was hopin', ya know, to kinda get my git-outta-jail card on that one there but I had to baaack to Alaaaaska there, dontch know. Feel like killin' somethin', if ya get my drift...

I don't know why the gays are fighting this losing battle anyway...marriage itself is so archaeic.....From the moment in history that marriage included a legal document that had to be signed by both "parties", marriage became a "union", rather like a "corporation". So if two people, gay or straight, want to make a "union", they should just go grab an attorney, form a corporation, combine their assets, call themselves "partners", carry health & other insurance on each other, (hold their own private spiritual ceremony under the stars later if they want), and just be done with it!

Melissa can't wait to go to hell and lick Satan's pussy.

@197 I see your point. I think the gay community should fight for equal rights, regardless of what they call it. Why are they so obsessed with qualifying their union as a "marriage" which is in itself a joke institution, like what was said at 193. Fight for the equality of Civil Unions before you try to get marriage benefits so all those religious fanatics can't use their "Jayzus says 'no'" bullcrap. I am also appalled at the support of all those inner city people for Prop 8. I mean, you guys have more important things to worry about, like getting out of the shit hole you guys call home. If I once had tolerance for people in the ghettos, I have lost all respect for these ignorant buffoons that focus their energy in meddling in other people's lives as oppose to voting for policies that will get them out of the decay the live in.

Dude, this entire topic is gay!

Who gives a crap! Good I hope she goes to prison for it to. This is so annoying because for a 2ND TIME we Californians had to vote against Gay Marriage and it's bullshit that they even overturned it the first time. Hey I don't like Obama and I really didn't want him to win but I except him as my President and that's what all the No on Prop 8 people need to do to!!! EXCEPT IT!!! You heard the peoples voices of California and Prop 8 passed.

Don't worry the slime ball supreme court judges will probably just overturn it again and fuck with our rights. That's what Liberals always do! They bitch and moan until they get their way. They don't care if they're invading other peoples rights. How would they like it if a supreme court judge could overturn Obama's win????? I bet they wouldn't like that!! Where does it END!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Fuck I need to move out of this hell hole liberal taking over state!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@199
Do you really think the majority of the inner city ghetto people knew anything about the issues? They were just out voting so their black candidate could win. They have no clue about any of the issues. Most didn't even know Obama's VP when interviewed.

Dear Melissa,

Write some music that does not suck ass for once, and maybe we consider letting you stay married to your bitch. Seriously, who are you again? That's right, a guitar slinging shitty singer.

Signed,

The People of California

P.S. Jerry Garcia liked your previous bitch more, you cheating whorebag.

"Hey I don't like Obama and I really didn't want him to win but I except him as my President "

I bet that's literally true.

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I highly doubt she will go through with it

but it would be smart - she'd be arrested and go to court and be able to use the judicial system to overturn prop 8 for infringing on her rights. It could be a path to equality if it goes to the supreme court. And she'd get all the publicity which would no doubt boost her sales etc.

but the irs will so totally lock her up if she doesn't pay for whatever reason.

perhaps the faster road to equality is to separate marriage and state, allow government to acknowledge only civil unions regardless of sex, and have marriage be a word which is distributed by communities or declared by lovers like the word love itself. In the end the government has nothing to do with granting or not granting marriage or love- it should only grant civil unions to everyone. The religious conservative people i have debated with have suggested that as a solution and at first i yelled at them that that's not equality, but it does seem like a good first step toward the goal, and its one that even ridiculous anti gay people would support.

... anyway - that's just some food for thought. My condolences on the sad setback in several states. But Obama won, so at least we got that going for us

I'm blown away by the hateful ignorance of the posters here. What a sad state of affairs for our country. I'm in full agreement with Melissa, if we don't have the same rights as heterosexual Americans then we can't be expected to have to fork over our tax money for "benefits" afforded to only heterosexual folks. Look around gays and lesbians are in each and every one of your lives and you probably don't even realize it. Leave the comments that are hateful and ignorant at the door and engage in reasonable discourse. Show that we as Americans can disagree without being ignorant.

She should be arrested...not for her refusal to pay taxes, but for her complete lack of talent.

So, if she refuses to pay her taxes, does that mean she refuses to drive on city streets? What if her house catches fire...perhaps the firemen will refuse to come and put it out. Perhaps the trash collectors will conveniently forget to pick up her cans for a few months. This broad is too stupid to breathe my air.

Blah Blah said:
If she doesn't pay her taxes, then she can enjoy the comforts of prison, where she'll be celebrated as a dyke.
Dumb bitch!

YOU ARE WHAT IS WRONG WITH AMERICA. YOU ARE SO FULL OF HATE FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT JUST LIKE YOU AND YOU THINK THEY DO NOT DESERVE THE SAME RIGHTS AS YOU HAVE. THE ONE THING YOU DO NOT HAVE IS ANY SENSE OF WHAT AMERICA STANDS FOR... YOU ARE A PATHETIC, SELF-SERVING, HATE-FILLED HUMAN BEING.

@ #150/Felix

To your point #1, the gender discrimination is as follows: a single man can enter into a contract of marriage with Melissa Etheridge's girlfriend but Melissa can't because of her gender.

To you point #3, you are quoting the Declaration of Independence, not the Constitution. The Declaration of Independence predates our Constitution and was never made into a legal document.

To #4. The Constitution exists to protect people from unjust laws such as P8. No one has to "just deal". Now, aren't you proud to be an American? * poke* :þ

Hey Tina @119...she was "given the right" by a few California Suprme Court judges who decided to overturn the will of the people. As was stated earlier: the people have spoken. Right or wrong, the way to change it is not through thinly-veiled threats to withhold state revenue. It's rather impetuous to act that way. I'm quite sure that the 46% of the country that voted for McCain don't want to pay the taxes that will surely rise as soon as Obama gets into office. State, Federal or otherwise.

@ 161's "no one has a right to marriage. It isn't a 'right' "

Per the US Supreme Court in Loving v Virginia (1967):
"Marriage is one of the "basic civil rights of man," fundamental to our very existence and survival. Skinner v. Oklahoma, 316 U.S. 535, 541 (1942)."

See it here for yourself - Section II, second paragraph
http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/historics/USSC_CR_0388_0001_ZO.html

Dude, marriage just isn't something that applies to homosexuals, and never has been throughout history. Even the gayest societies like Ancient Greece ('specially Sparta,) were down with teh gay but never considered gay marriage.

It's not a question of civil rights or equality. Marriage is a social institution, and as such a society has every right to decide to whom it will grant it. I'm no homophobe, so please don't bother with any accusations of bigotry, but the fact is that homosexuality is in fact an abnormality (and I use the term as free of stigma as it can be,) because physiologically WE'RE NOT DESIGNED FOR IT. While the feelings may be geniune, and even occasionally innate, it's no different from any other paraphilia, just as transgenderism is no different from any other body dysmorphic disorder. Noone should be persecuted, but nor should they demand and be given equal validity to people who act more-or-less as we're supposed to by our nature.

In my country gay marriage is legal and I couldn't care less about what they do with their lives but I can see why people like her are so hated since everything has to be around their sexual preference, she doesn't care if tax money helps kids with cancer or war veterans, only her personal issues matter.

To those idiots saying there's a right to marry "somebody we love", no country in this world has such a law, otherwise people would sue others for violating their rights due to lack of love after a divorce.

If she doesn't sees herself as equal enough to also consider others' needs she'll never be considered equal by others.

Gay marriage advocates: 'marriage should be between 2 consenting adults'

Under that argument, wouldn't that allow relatives to get married? Incest? That's just rank. As rank as homo lovin'

Hey! I work at a strip club and we do not have a chicken wing table - we serve New York steak, thank you very much.

And as an employee from such a venue, I too would like to protest the passing of Prop 8. As many may not know, a substantial amount of daily profits come from our lesbian patrons. And as - generously - paying customers, we treat them with the same amount of respect as their hetero-male counterparts. Even more so when comparing them to our less-than-generous hetero-male counterparts. With the passing of Proposition 8 and with the illegality of same-sex marriages, this means no same-sex bachelorette parties of which we may host. And with our female entertainers making less from stage tips, lap dances and champagne room fees, this simply means less tax revenue going to you, California. And, my goodness, these bitches make a lot of money! So fie! my fellow Californians who wish to "preserve marriage" yet scratch your heads repeatedly thinking of ways to collect more revenue to pay your state debt. Fie!

Good for her. It's just like blacks not having the right to vote... look where that got you. Anyone who is against gay marriage is a fuckin' idiot or a phoney religious jackass... but I repeat myself. In 30 years gay marriage will be legal in every state except Utah.

Fuck you American's are retarded. Any chance to turn something into a religious argument, you jump at it. If your population is backward enough to pass laws like this, then I weep for your future.

reading someof these comments made me fele disgusted. go DIAF you homophobes.

Crap, I didn't vote for Obama, so does that mean I don't have to pay my federal taxes? Hell Yeah!

Since when did the gays become special? The law only applies to them when they want it to? Oh, boo-hoo. I hope that she goes to jail so that she can experience some real gay lovin'.

Since when did the gays become special? The law only applies to them when they want it to? Oh, boo-hoo. I hope that she goes to jail so that she can experience some real gay lovin'.

I like how all that we have to do to unconstitutionally subvert the rights of people is re-write the constitution. Fight the Power, Melissa!

Gotta love angry, spiteful people. "The people voted. Get over it."

Hey, we just annulled your marriage. Right, you're living in sin now, and your kids are bastards. You don't think that's fair? Well, it's done. Get over it.

I don't have a problem with these comments, as long as Fish rewrites the title to "Post your comments here if you can't handle the FACT that a democratic election in America rejected your conservative views".

Seriously, continuing on with all your leftover "commie liberal" drivel in response to Etheridge's silly blog entry? Just plain sad.

let me get this right socialist dems, it's okay for this person to not pay her taxes cause gov is taking away her "rights" yet when republicans complain about their tax dollars being used for other people's welfare, abortion, public education for other people's kids, healthcare for illegal immigrants, etc... it's considered selfish? hypocrites.

@228 - wa waaaa waaaaaah! WA WAAA WAAAAH!!!

Nothing makes me happier than knowing the people who make the asshole comments here will be justly rewarded for their stupidity.. :)

If she doesn't pay taxes then how will the schools afford books about 2 dykes raising a child? How will we force our children to think that a guy ramming another guy's hairy butthole is normal?

All I see are bitter dead-enders crying over the fact McCain and Caribou Barbie got their a$$es handed to them on Tuesday. The only reason there's so much anger here over Etheridge's rant about Prop 8 is due to the realization that the "moral majority" has lost its stranglehold on this country. Now that I think about it ... what are you upstanding Christians doing surfing a Hollywood gossip anyway? Shouldn't you be atoning for your sins or something like that?

hey I'm no homo hater, in fact, I have two gay friends that I love very much!! The fact of the matter is is that California voted and they just said no. So now gay people are pissing and moaning and making a big stink by protesting when it's just not neccesary! The only thing they want is the word "marriage." I think they should just stop bitching!! And to threaten to not pay your taxes for it is just plain idiotic! But the government will sure be happy to take you all to court for that money. Good luck with that you dumbasses. Gay people are such hypocrites anyways. When we have something to say, it's all hate and discrimination, but with them they have the "anything goes" mentality. Just stop bitching and get off your high fucking horses!!!

Oh Noooooooo, wh0 will fund the arts???????????????

"Hey I'm no homo hater, in fact, I have two gay friends that I love very much!!".... That is the classic bigot line. I bet you dont' hate blacks as well. You have two best friends who are black right?

wow, what a mature thing to say. i hope she goes straight to prison where she belongs. the rest of us in California can barely pay our rent and were late to work last night because these disgusting freaks were out blocking traffic. we all voted and prop 8 won. if they don't believe in democracy and the laws of America they can leave.

i voted YES on prop 8 just for pure spite. i'm not religious and i dont care if they have gay sex in their house. i just think its F_CKING RIDICULOUS. then they will have to have gay divorce and what, the judge will have to listen to tearful hysterics and try to decide which one is the girlier one who needs alimony?
every gay person i know (which is plently since everyone in LA is gay now) has the exact same whiny, victimized, arrogant, selfish, delusions of grandeur attitude. they have the mentality of teenagers who want to throw a tantrum and talk in that annoying fake voice they all have and wave their hands. and just want to get married to steal tax money from poor hetero familes who have children to support. something they dont have to do, who needs a tax break if you are two rich men with high paying jobs fluffing pillows or designing clothes. or they go pay some poor woman to have a baby for them so it can grow up a messed up drug addict or confused rapist (yes i know many of these people personally, the kids do not turn out normal, one guy i know who was raised by two lesbians turned out to hate women and raped 5 of my friends). maybe if they acted like normal people (who dont stand in the street in underwear screaming about what orifices they put their d-ck in, which none of us sane people want to hear about) we'd let them 'get married'. all they do is have anonymous sex with whoever they meet and parade around giving everyone aids. all the gay people i know are the most insecure, miserable people. my neighbors are gay and they try to kill each other every other day in some big dramatic fight. why? cuz their moms didnt pay them enough attention, keep that sh-t to yourselves, get some balls and act like men. of course it's scary to have to be a man and have to be tough and work to support a wife and children, so lets' cry like girls and marry each other. and lesbians are all just too ugly to get dates. they're not fooling anyone that they were born that way. it's such a fad, now kids are gay at 12 just cuz it's cool and emo, who even knows what they want at that age. of course its easier to just deal with whatever you can relate to without having all the trouble of learning to compromise with someone of the other sex. soon everyone will be gay and the human race will end.

being gay is a choice and we all know it. the fact that BISEXUALITY exists is 100% proof that there is no genetic way that anyone could be gay. it's just a great way to become an instant minority and get to blame all your problems on someone else and shirk your natural responsibility. EVERY SINGLE gay person who i or anyone i've talked to knows, was molested by someoen of their same sex when they were a child. isn't that such an amazing coincidence that a couple of years later they turned out to be gay?? or the women i know just had too many bad boyfriends and decided to be lesbians. and we're all supposed to play their game and hold their hand and celebrate them for being the abused little victims they never got to be since most of them are rich & white and spoiled rotten growing up? nobody feels sorry for you not getting married. i feel sorry for victims of real crimes and all those who live in poverty. not these rich as-holes with $70 million dollars to burn for a ridiculous law to change thousands of years of human society for their petulant little nonsense.

it's a slippery slope. this year they want to get married and next year the polyamoury people will want to marry 3 people, then people will marry children, siblings, pets, and their Real Doll. WHEN WILL THIS CRAP END!?

Awesome! I hope a ton of people follow her in this protest. Wht the hell should she pay taxes if the state revokes her marriage?!?!? This is a perfect civil rights protest! ANY union between consenting adults should be protected under the law! A "marriage" is nothing more than the union of two consenting adults!

All of you religious assholes need to get off of your gigh horses and practice a little tolerance! Traditional marriage is a joke! How many of those who voted yes out there have been divorced!? Thought so! We should make divorce illegal and then see who cries foul!

Etheridge has a legit concern.

The unabashed hate in some of the comments here is really disturbing.

Unfortunately, Ms. Etheridge needs a primer in Constitutional law. She in fact has the same rights as any other individual in her state. She has the right to marry any nonmarried individual of the opposite sex. This right is shared by all Californians. This is democracy in action, proof that federalism is alive and well. I am not passing any judgment on gays and gay marriage but distorting the facts and misinterpreting unambiguous provisions of both the state and national constitutions only dilutes any equal protection arguments gays may actually have.

#236 -- "the fact that BISEXUALITY exists is 100% proof that there is no genetic way that anyone could be gay" -- ummmmm, okay - wonderful logic there. Yes, people choose to be this way - they choose to go through their youth confused, abused, and scared. Yes, they choose to be gay so they can have epithets thrown at them on a regular basis, NOT get the same rights as straight people, NOT be protected under the law. I bet your great grand-father thought that black people must have wanted to be slaves, otherwise why would they pick cotton so well? And I applaud your tremendous research project concluding that all gay people must have been molested by the same sex, that's impressive. You must have some pretty fine credentials, Dr. Fuckwad. It seems you think that all gay people are rich, whiny, douchebags that deserve no rights. That makes so much sense, I'm deciding that all people that post at #236 deserve to have a truckload of shit dumped on their lawn, then lit on fire. Nothing personal though. You chose to post at #236 obviously.

I have read a lot of hateful comments on here about what Melissa is saying. That is why the California Supreme Court ruled the way it did, to protect the rights of the minority from the majority of closed minded, dumb as fuck bigots out there that would much rather live up inside Sarah Palin's vagina than participate in a civil society. I have "turned the other cheek" for far too long. The gloves come off now. How about a constitutional amendment requiring Mormons and Evangelicals to be sex slaves? Sounds good to me!

Fuck all of you Yes on 8 people. Every last one of you!

I THINK GAY PEOPLE MARRYING EACH OTHER SHOULD BE LEGAL!!!!

BUT THEN AGAIN I THINK SHOOTING GAY PEOPLE WHO MARRY EACH OTHER SHOULD ALSO BE LEGAL

IF CALIFORNIA WOULD SELL TICKETS TO LIVE HOMO SHOOTS - THEY COULD RECOVER THE TAX MONEY THEY LOST FROM THIS FAT BITCH

the people have spoken? this is a democracy? lol, sorry, civics flunkies, but america is actually a is a federal constitutional republic. we are not ruled by the mob because the mob is obviously too stupid to decide whats right for everyone. theyve got some power, but they cannot overturn the us constitution. once this issue goes up to the federal level, bans on gay marriage will be found unconstitutional and every state will be forced to allow it. the more you resist it, the easier itll be to do this, and the faster itll happen. please continue, religious nuts; im sure your imaginary friend in the sky will be very pleased to find that youre inadvertently pushing gay marriage onto the entire country. carry on!

I am glad it passed. It was the only bright spot on Tuesday.
The only hate is coming from all the no on 8 people. It is hilarious how spiteful you all are. The reason people voted Yes was simple: We are tired of having all the liberals run our lives. We DO NOT care what you do behind your bedroom door. Lawsuits being filed to force people to accept a behavior their beliefs say is wrong is unacceptable. Dragging my 6 year old to a lezbo wedding for a class field trip is unacceptable. Forcing kindergartners to sign cards saying they won't discriminate against gay,bi, transgendered is unacceptable.
Get over yourself, your not that important.

#243

I have serious doubts this will go to the supremes. The highest is can go it to Superior court. I know the argument the attys will make to try to get it to the supremes but I don't think it will fly in the end and it shouldn't - superior should have the final say on this one.

I'm shocked at the people on here who state there should be no majority rule or democracy type voting on issues such as these. Ummm, you do remember you live in the United States of America right? Perhaps you should pick up a couple history books, I mean I know they no longer teach that stuff in schools, but seriously! This isn't a socialist country we live in....oh wait I forgot who just won the election. I stand corrected.

That's awesome. And totally merited.

Many of the more lucid have said it, the hypocritical say : Obama WON! Majority RULLLLLESSS!!!. Now when something they dislike happens it becomes a representative republic all the sudden. No one should be married under state sanctioning ANYWAY. Marriage is an outdated religious ceremony. The ONLY reason queers want to be married is because someone told them they can't. Pathetic contrarianism. They are freaks, and can't stand it. Sorry oddballs, you still rank with child molestors and incest freaks. People don't seem to understand basic anthropology. Nature weeds out the weak and overpopulated by turning them homosexual. Period. Read any study on homosexuality in the animal kingdom and that is always the end analysis. Nature is telling her she is no good. Hell it even gave her cancer, nature is trying overtime to kill this bitch.

who would have thought that people could be so close minded? i'm so sorry that all of you hateful people don't understand what it's like to be considered a second class citizen simply because you love. I honestly have no idea why some of you people are so angry about this. Newsflash: gay marriage has nothing to do with you unless you want to have one. So stop trying to push your narrow beliefs on people.

I'm not going to try to change your mind. It's clear that people that should such bigotry are not interested in listening to logic or reason. Gay people don't want to hurt you or judge you or take away your rights and your anger doesn't have to do with us. It has to do with you. You don't even know the people that you're giving second class status to.

It's not fair or right to take away the rights of one specific group simply because you're afraid or you don't understand us or you think it's wrong. I personally think everyone who wants to ban gay rights is wrong, but you don't see me fighting to remove your rights.

So please. Get over yourself. No one's interested in your hate. That's not what we're about.

oh, and also, all of this "hate" that you say is coming from the no on 8 people, open your eyes, please. we're not using hate to fight. our protests have been peaceful.

but im sorry if it's inconvenienced you. I totally understand how waiting a bit longer in traffic is on par with losing your rights. Here's an idea. Let's weigh your "inconveniences" against mine and see who wins.

I will not quit until I am allowed to marry my dog in a Church.

@ Sarah, the self-serving hypocrisy from gays and lesbians, amazingly enough, has been raised to a whole new level. You probably voted for Obama... and are thrilled that the majority voted Obama for president. No one is challenging the legitimacy of his victory... fair enough.

Now, when the majority votes in favor of Prop 8, you question Prop 8's legitimacy. Who are you to decide what election results are valid and which ones are not. Hypocrite.

If anyone is closed-minded, it would be you because you can't get around to accepting the fact that you lost and that people don't agree with you. You're the one who is closed-minded.

@ I HATE CLOSED MINDED BREEDERS

I think the people who voted for Prop 8 are the ones who have turned the cheek long enough, as gays and lesbians have attempted to twist and mutilate the very moral definitions that are revered by countless millions.

Go fuck yourself.

"Anyways, she and I are not allowed the same right under the state constitution as any other citizen. "

I don't buy this for a second. Ethridge is well off. She must have lawyers. If her lawyers are so derelict in their duty that they have not informed this woman about California's domestic partnership laws (which are gender neutral), then they need to be fired. Now. Domestic partners are afforded about 98% of the same rights are married California couples. Period. Yes this includes have to file states taxes JOINTLY as a MARRIED couple.

This isn't about "rights". It's about sticking it to those "religious bigots", and tearing them down.

Maybe since I am from NJ the land of lawyers, why are my rights to what I think is the sanctity of marriage be ripped away from me?

We have laws for where not to put trash, where to smoke, where not to eat, where to put bathrooms in public places. Heck there are laws for guaranteeing cups of ice water at theme parks (yeah in some states). Come on...

Why can't we have a law that make Civil Union have the same rights as Marriage. If this is just about rights that should do.

Are we all so close minded and petty that we can not resolve this in a way that benefits both sides of the argument?

What about those people who don't have the right to smoke weed, drive 100 mph on the left side of the road, or shoot kittens. Should they stop paying their taxes?

It's a publicity stunt. A damn good one, though. And her points are valid.

This whole issue shouldn't have been put to a vote. Constitutional issues should be handled by experts in interpreting the constitution.

I am truly sickened by these offensive comments. I mean, I am completely against Prop 8, but WTF? Calling someone vile, disgusting names only proves that you are in fact the very thing you called that person. You have illusions that you are better than everyone else and but really have crap self-esteem.

I have no issue with people voting for what they believe in as long as it doesn't get as gross and horrendous as these anti-homosexual remarks. I am frankly nauseated.

Right Keith. Lets let the intellectual elite make our decisions for us. Why did we even vote? A panel of experts should have decided who would be president!
Think. Think again. Then, maybe, post.

Hey 213, here in California, it's our REPUBLICAN Governor who's raising the hell out of all our taxes. Stop mimicking all the McCain/Palin hate and retoric.

Lisa, let me tweak your words a smidge:

"I am truly sickened by these offensive comments. I mean, I am completely **FOR Prop 8**, but WTF? Calling someone vile, disgusting names only proves that you are in fact the very thing you called that person. You have illusions that you are better than everyone else and but really have crap self-esteem.

I have no issue with people voting for what they believe in as long as it doesn't get as gross and horrendous as these **PRO-homosexual** remarks. I am frankly nauseated."

Sorry Lisa, but if you're gunna bash those who supported Prop 8, then expect your own words to be used against you and your ilk.

Self-defeating.

@ 260, Obama won. Forget about McCain/Palin already. It's done and dead now.

@ 259, Obama won. Forget about McCain/Palin already. It's done and dead now.

This whole "equal rights" issue is a red herring. She has the right to marry a man, just like any other woman. THAT, my friends, is equal rights. What she's after is expanded rights, though nobody will come out and say it because it's not as dramatic.

As far as letting constitutional scholars decide things, I'm all for it. That would eliminate, in no particular order:
- income taxes
- medicare/medicaid
- welfare
- social security
- affirmative action
- eminent domain
- many gun laws
- the federal reserve

Melissa Etheridge is a another no talent, overpaid prima donna, with an opinion that no one in the mainstream gives a flying fuck about. I hope she does stop paying taxes. Then they can put her in prison and shut her the hell up.

I just can not imagine that a country or state even allows its residents to vote for the rights of a minority. Democracy is that you allow everyone regardless of what they are to be free as long as their freedom does not shadow others. Now, does gay marriage restrict anyone? if it does to you, then you are gay-in-denial as per 612 researches published in the last 50 years.

...............Hard Rock?
She is familiar with the FAGGOTS working over there?

FUCK ALL YOU IGNORANT FASCIST PIG HOMOPHOBES! Keep your fucking noses out of my life and bedroom and mind your own fucking business.

I think it's interesting that some people believe in a democracy when things go the way they want, but they don't when the decision goes against them.

In saying that, I think it's disgusting that they don't have the right to marry who they love.

Melissa, count me in.

Do I support Etheridge not paying her taxes? No, I can't go that far. It's an obligation regardless of things like Proposition 8. That said, the level of hatred and homophobia in the comments is despicable. You should be ashamed of yourselves.

As for the commentators who are claiming that gay people have the same rights to marriage as everyone else–the right to marry a person of the opposite sex, that argument was tried in the racial misogenation laws that barred interracial marriage. "Nobody is being discriminated against! Everyone has the same right–to marry someone of the same race!" That bigoted line of argument was struck down by the US Supreme Court in 1967. I fail to see how that type of logic is any more valid when applied to gays and lesbians than it was when applied to interracial marriage.

Hey #263 (Truth doctor). I was wrong when I replied to Keith's post (see #256/258)
Your analysis and conclusions are DEAD ON! That is, assuming that they go by The Constitution, and not the current, feel-good, tweak meanings to suit their agenda, "who cares what the founding fathers Really meant" position.

Thanks for the correction!

At the very least, lets get rid of tax withholding. I bet there would be a lot more interest in what the gov't wants to spend our money on if everyone had to stroke a tax check every quarter.

#205

It's as predictable as the sun coming up in the morning: liberals are all about the first amendment - as long as it's not against something they hold dear.

"Shut down the board! Shut down the board! People are saying mean things about me or my friends!"

What an f'ing fascist...

You guys scare the fuck out of me.

So you believe homosexuality is wrong... SO WHAT. It is not up to the government to decide.

Replublican used to be a term applied to those who felt the government should not interfere. Less government involvement, more power to the people... all people, including those with so-called alternative lifestyles.

She has a right to feel the way she does. Educate yourself.

How is homosexuality in any way related to murder... unreal!

I just hate that the celebrities are in a panty bunch over a loss in gay rights. What a bummer. If they aren't happy...ain't nobody happy. Who will show us the way to gaudy and how to piss away money on crap? We need guidance in this area...people are hurting...we need to know there are still people out there who are unaffected by the realities of unemployment and financial catastrophy. Darn it. I mean, on the one hand the people stood up for getting beyond race to put the first black man in office...that is awesome. I hope shooting down the gay marriage proposal doesn't send the wrong message to gays...chin up celebrities..we can't afford to have you upset AND have an economy going to hell in a hand basket at the same time. Best wishes on your speedy return to simply thinking about your own sorry asses.

Hmmm. I can think of a reason not to pay taxes too...she probably has more loop holes and doesn't really pay what she should anyway - They really don't want to be like everyone else - they want to have their way all the time.

56mm didn't vote for Obama - but he's our president now - it wasn't everyone's choice - but everyone has to live with it.

Suck it up Melissa, or whatever it is you do...and shave your stache...

your music sucks - always has - never been a fan - and this isn't going to change it that's for sure

Hmmm. I can think of a reason not to pay taxes too...she probably has more loop holes and doesn't really pay what she should anyway - They really don't want to be like everyone else - they want to have their way all the time.

56mm didn't vote for Obama - but he's our president now - it wasn't everyone's choice - but everyone has to live with it.

Suck it up Melissa, or whatever it is you do...and shave your stache...

your music sucks - always has - never been a fan - and this isn't going to change it that's for sure

Hmmm. I can think of a reason not to pay taxes too...she probably has more loop holes and doesn't really pay what she should anyway - They really don't want to be like everyone else - they want to have their way all the time.

56mm didn't vote for Obama - but he's our president now - it wasn't everyone's choice - but everyone has to live with it.

Suck it up Melissa, or whatever it is you do...and shave your stache...

your music sucks - always has - never been a fan - and this isn't going to change it that's for sure

This is the reason why people target gays. I don't condone it, but the gays are unreasonable freaks of nature who like to pretend that they are open-minded.

Why, why, WHY can't white trash just simmer down and accept that EVERYTHING changes. We are evolving, as a people, and that means were becoming more and more diverse and there will be more and more equality. It's happening and it's not going to change just because you throw temper tantrums and start flinging racial slurs. Yes, I know it's scary but that's life. Get with the program. Hell, China is the next big world power (unless President Obama can turn the sad tide of the Bush years). Better brush up on your Mandarin!

For some reason just because some idiots believe in some mythical being created by ancient mental midgets that needed to come up with an explanation for the existence of the sun and moon which eventually evolved into thousands of different faiths; they think it gives them some kind of special power to deny equal rights law-abiding tax-paying consenting adults that love differently than they do.

You dont' want to marry someone of your own sex, don't. Nobody is making you. But your religion has no place in civil society dictating what legal relationships other consenting adults can enter. You don't want anyone telling you what to believe as far as religion is concerned but you think your religion gives you the right to dictate others lives? Bullshit.

Your beliefs do not give you any more rights than anyone else. Your faith doesn't make you a better person, more 'moral' or more special than anyone else. The only purpose your religion serves is to feed your pathetic ego and insecurities about life.

To the guy posting as God: The truth is that you don't exist. You are a figment of the imagination of insecure delusional sociopathic narcissists that are just afraid to die. So go fuck yourself.

Man, the rant was so sad. Her whole life is centered around sucking on pussy and is mad that people don't agree with her lifestyle 'choice'. Homosexuality is a behavior not a skin color. Just a pedophilia, necrophilia, bestiality are sexual behaviours. Should we next hand out marriage licenses for a women and German shepherd. Surely that would be restricting her civil liberties as well. Our how about marrying 4 different lesbians at the same time. Why not marriage to an inanimate object, while we are at it? Your turn on's are your business but don't destroy marriage simply because you hate straight people and traditional marriage reminds you that your behavior is not normal.

I think she went about this all wrong. She sounds too emotional and you can never win an argument that way. A better argument in her favor might have been,"no taxation without representation." The state government isn't standing up for her basic human rights, so perhaps she shouldn't have to pay taxes.

I'm going to quit paying my taxes until they legalize weed.

Mellissa Etheridge is a dumb bitch. I wish she would move her sorry skank ass out of the country. She would obviously be much happier elsewhere, and so would I. Best case scenario; they thrown her stupid ass in jail with the other dykes. It's a shame that she's too stupid to understand how influential a thing like the tolerance of gay marriage is. She should look into the recent RAND Corp. studies linking teenage pregnancy to watching shows that glamorize sex. She might learn a thing or two, like that most people are ignorant, and reenact things they see on TV like mindless lemmings. Of course, a moronic carpet-muncher like Etheridge would probably say that the study is a fake, and refuse to pay her car insurance. Stupid bitch.

I don't think any should really get married unless they have to, basically do it for the kids. Otherwise the legal issues are a mess.

Ok, so I'm really depressed reading a lot of comments. I could concede points to some of you who actually give good reasons, like "majority ruled", etc. because, although I disagree with that, it makes logical sense. However, then you guys say such awful things. And I'm gonna say this to people on "my side" of the issue. All of you who talk about religious people being child molesters is simply reversed bigotry. I myself am supporting of gay marriage, but I am also Christian so a great deal of these comments distress me. You want your comments and arguments to be taken seriously, then refrain from insults, faulty grammar, mindless crude language, it all detracts from what you are trying to say. It also makes me less willing to listen to you. Just because the Internet is anonymous doesn't mean you have the right to be an asshole. Remember there is a living, breathing human being on the other end of you comment and they can feel and hurt from what you're saying.
Thank you

Hey # 286. Did you read your post before you clicked the "Post Your Comment" button???
You say "I could concede points to some of you who actually give good reasons" and then follow with "although I disagree with that, it makes logical sense" Wow!
Then you decry "faulty grammar", and then follow that with "Remember there is a living, breathing human being on the other end of you comment and they can feel and hurt from what you're saying." Again, Wow!
Sit down and really think about what you want to say before you start typing!

How melodramatic.

I see her point, but she does still enjoy many of the benefits besides marriage that come with being a citizen. Tell her to keep her money. Then tell her to stay away from public parks. Tell her to never call the police if she needs help. She can buy a car, but keep it off public roads. There's more to life and citizenship than marriage. And what's the big deal anyway? There's just going to be another proposition a few years from now that will challenge this one. Jesus, Melissa, grow up.

Ignorance. Complete and utter ignorance.
You cannot let the people decide on something like same-sex marriage.

For an elementary example that your childish brains just might understand:

It's like letting the people decide on science-fiction movies.
Lots of people dislike sci-fi, so if they voted that no one could watch them ever again, it would be discriminating to those few who do. Watching sci-fi hurts no one.

Being gay hurts no one.

The examples you use do hurt people - pedophilia? Come on.

And guys, don't worry, I'm sure there's a few chicks in this world who do want your disgusting dick, you know, like a hooker.

If you yourself are glad you aren't gay, good for you, go fuck a straight whore.
If you are homophobic of gay people, that's fine, but that doesn't mean you can't tolerate them and coexist with them. I coexist with people I hate everyday, and you know what? I'm still alive, I haven't died, I haven't become one of them.

I dislike religion, I'm not going to vote to take away religion. It's a person's natural right.

Being gay hurts no one.
Bigotry and discrimination does.
They hurt the people who say it most.
You say gays are sick.
I therefore think that you're mentally unstable because their is no logic behind your mindless babble.

Homosexuality has long been observed in animals.
It is a natural occurrence.
If you think people should just get past that because animals do it, well then maybe you should just plain stop having sex.

Seriously, stop having sex, I mean, have you heard of "exponential growth" in relation to the population? Good lord, everyone should be gay just to control this shit!

For every single argument against gay marriage, there is a counter-argument for it.

In the end, it's about letting everyone have their natural rights. If you don't like it, that's too bad, it doesn't affect you in any way.

I dislike mushrooms, I am not going to take mushrooms away from everyone else.

You dislike gay marriage, good for you, you have no right to take it away from everyone else.

@ 289

"There's more to life and citizenship than marriage. And what's the big deal anyway? There's just going to be another proposition a few years from now that will challenge this one. Jesus, Melissa, grow up."


--There is more to life. However, marriage has become a cornerstone of life itself.
That's why it is so important. People look down on those who aren't married once they reach a certain age. Marriage provide other benefits that contribute to life.

There will be another proposition, but it will only happen because of strong acts like this.

Grow up and think about these things throughly before taking one aspect of this and posting such jargon.

Melissa may be making a statement, but the government is not going to tread lightly on her refusal to pay her state taxes in CA. This is a quintessential case of mixing apples with oranges. The state will recoup your taxes with interest and penalties added on.

Remember when this wretched dyke came on some show with her head all bald and shit, looking like the queer eyed version of Mr Clean.

She sang a Janis Joplin song, and changed the words to suit her gayness.

From Piece of My Heart

Janis lyrics: "Didn't I make you feel...like you were the only MAN...."

Bull-dyke lyrics: "Didn't I make you feel....like you were the only ONE...."


She's singing a classic song and takes it upon her gay self to change the lyric, apparently since she's so fucking gay that if she even said anything about loving a Man her big gay bald head would explode. Fuck you Etheridge. I wish California could also take away your right to sing crappy fucking music.

Lou Diamond Phillips is just gotta be looking at this fucking three-toed Sloth and saying "How the fuck did I lose my wife to this fucking creature????"

My heart goes out to you Lou, and you were great in La Bamba

HAHAHA @ 293, you're such a loser.

This is what happens when you let freaks vote. They shouldn't have the same rights as normal people. They are too emotional. They have one-track minds. It's all about being queer, acting like degenerates, bashing religion, forcing schools to teach that being queer is normal, extorting tax dollars to any cause that teaches about being queer, and forcing tax payers to pay for their little artsy shows. By the way, I don't believe in God. Don't use your hatred of religion on me.

The essence of Prop 8 is equality. But the vote was approximately 50/50 with the proponents of the ballot question winning narrowly. If we use this as a barometer for the country, we see this is a divise issue, one that people feel strongly about.

Hence, a compromise is in order:; Civil unions laws should be enacted in CA to grant same sex couples AND hetersexual couples WITH no religious affiliation alll the rights of married people. Going forward, those straight people who want their committment to each other to be recognized by God will be married. All others (gay & straight couples) will have the same rights under a civil union.

The slippery slope that most opponents of Prop 8 fear is 1. based on their religion and 2. knowing that supporters of same-sex "marriage" will not stop at that. They (gays) will next want to have all TV commercials include gay couples; all public schools teaching classes on being gay, etc. and everything marketed from a 50/50 perpsective,with an eventual goal of the disintegration of all religion. They want control and that is not fair to the other side.

As for Melissa Etheridge, she needs to be put on a leash.

Single people pay state taxes, too.

295: You're the biggest freak on this whole board.

296: Why no religious affiliation for gays? I think that is a brilliant idea I have heard before, if only it would be spread more, however, God is not against gays. The bible, written by men, has one line against gays, who is to say that is a line of God, as it is one line, it is not a reoccurring theme.

And, yes, they will stop at that. Once they stop at that, they will be happy, and life will take it's course. Blacks did not petition to be shown more in the media, or to have classes taught about them, it just happened. Does that make it wrong? No.

297: Yes, they do, and should, so long as none of their natural rights are being taken away, as is Melissa's.

On the argument that gay people have the same rights as everyone else because they can marry someone of the opposite sex:

Someone has already pointed out that this argument was put forth and subsequently shot down during the debate on interracial marriage.

Now, lets hypothesise a 'what if' situation: What if the people of your state voted by a narrow margin that marriage be defined as between two people of the same sex? Would you as a heterosexual then be content that you had the same right as everyone else to enter into a same-sex union? Of course not!

PS. To the dude who is all worked up about Etheridge substituting "one" for "man" in a Janis Joplin song - the beautiful irony here is that it is pretty well accepted that Janis was a bisexual woman - and a rather promiscuous one at that. In fact, there are even those who argue that Janis was a lesbian who maintained hetero relationships (and dalliances) to keep up an image.

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