Sep 2 2008Sarah Palin's 17-year-old daughter is pregnant

The 17-year-old daughter of John McCain's running mate Sarah Palin (a.k.a. Governor MILFalicious) is reportedly five months pregnant. The McCain campaign revealed the news to rebut rampant rumors that Governor Palin's infant son is actually her grandson and she faked her pregnancy to protect her daughter Bristol. You seriously just read all that, and I'm now 90% positive John McCain's research involved picking this woman's name out of of a hat. Reuters reports:
The Palins, in a statement released by the McCain campaign, said Bristol "came to us with news that we as parents knew would make her grow up faster than we had ever planned" and that their daughter "has our unconditional love and support."
"We ask the media to respect our daughter and Levi's privacy as has always been the tradition of children of candidates," their statement said.
Senior McCain campaign officials said McCain knew of the daughter's pregnancy when he selected Palin last week as his vice presidential running mate, deciding that it did not disqualify the 44-year-old governor in any way.
I know the knee-jerk reaction will be to point out the hypocrisy of Governor Palin's faith-based public views on supporting abstinence-only education and overturning Roe v. Wade. But let's not lose sight of the real issue. Which is Sarah Palin shot a moose.

Reader Comments
1. Ted from LA - September 2, 2008 9:01 AM
First of 789.
2. Ted from LA - September 2, 2008 9:04 AM
Do you know what you call people who use abstinence only education for birth control?
Parents.
3. Richard McBeef - September 2, 2008 9:04 AM
Second of 789.
4. Lousy idiotic Republican Scumbags are good for jokes - September 2, 2008 9:05 AM
AHHHHHHHHHHHH haaaaaaaaaaa HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!
McCain really is senile aint he?
5. Ted from LA - September 2, 2008 9:05 AM
Is that picture of the Governor or the daughter? Nevermind. I just realized I don't give a shit who it is.
6. Yo mama - September 2, 2008 9:06 AM
Why should her daughter's actions have anything to do with her ability to be a fabulous VP?
And she WILL be fabulous.
7. Ted from LA - September 2, 2008 9:07 AM
With I name like that, I'll bet she got knocked up at a Nascar race.
8. douche - September 2, 2008 9:08 AM
Yeah, but Barack's a Muslim.
9. No Ted - September 2, 2008 9:09 AM
They are not called parents that is childishly redundant (or republican). They are called fools. One must assess a situation with not logic my friend, not emotion. Hoping that a young person will be able to control their hormones is a mindless assumption and is therefore ignorant.
Vote McCain. Even though he is clearly not very bright and is of no value to this country. He demonstrated that already with being one of the Keating Five and now look at his judgement call on a VP!!!!!!!!!!!
10. extracheeseplease - September 2, 2008 9:09 AM
Her daughter is a 17 year old! hold up wait a minute, this VP selection is the equivalent of Lynne Spears. 5 kids, one of them with Down's Syndrome and a pregnant teenager. Lynne spears has a retarded daughter and had a pregnant teen
11. Ted from LA - September 2, 2008 9:10 AM
#6
You cannot use the word "fabulous" twice in one post. Be sure to read the rules before posting again.
12. McCain is a disgrace and not qualified - September 2, 2008 9:11 AM
Presumed Republican presidential nominee John McCain believes that Czechoslovakia is still an existent country, despite the fact that it has not been for 15 years. This makes him the type of person that one might charitably describe as a dum-dum.
Now, I know what some of you are thinking. Some of you are thinking: "Hell, I didn't know Czechoslovakia isn't a country anymore, either - and, darn it, I'm no dum-dum!" Well, maybe you are and maybe you aren't, but it's rather beside the point since you're not running to be the president of the United States, which is one of the most globally important jobs on the planet.
13. Ted from LA - September 2, 2008 9:13 AM
#9,
I'm referring to the young people who end up pregnant. As in, do you know what they call people who use withdrawal as a form of birth control?
Parents.
14. Scott - September 2, 2008 9:15 AM
FYI, that image is NOT Sarah Palin. It's from a stock photo company. Some other blogger misused it ages ago and now it shows up in Google images for her name...but it isn't her.
15. Count Baltar - September 2, 2008 9:16 AM
"Hoping that a young person will be able to control their hormones is a mindless assumption and is therefore ignorant."
You and me baby, we ain't nothing but mammals.
16. morga - September 2, 2008 9:17 AM
Superfish, you idiot, that's not Palin. That's Sabine Ehrenfeld, the former overstock.com babe
sheesh
17. phil - September 2, 2008 9:18 AM
What 14 said, that's not her. Nonetheless I'm HOT FOR GOVERNOR!
18. ph7 - September 2, 2008 9:20 AM
Rednecks are rednecks are rednecks.
19. wretew - September 2, 2008 9:23 AM
i just found this girl on a celebs dating club'S earching M illionaire...c o m'.i am sure she is not seriously looking but for some short-term relationship according to her profile description.
20. Googlybits - September 2, 2008 9:24 AM
Sexuality is genetic. That's why 90% of kids in abstinence only programs have sex as teenagers. Why the stupidity of upholding anti-contraceptive views when they so easily fail?
21. Judgement - September 2, 2008 9:25 AM
Fuckin Republicans and their hypocrisy! It's typical of them to preach all that "morals" shit and "rightgeous living" and then they can't even get their own children to follow it.
If this would have been Barack's 17 year old daughter, they would have painted him out to be the worse person/parent alive!
22. crabby old guy - September 2, 2008 9:26 AM
The pompass f-tards on the left who bash a 17-year old's life changing situation are as stoopid (if not more so) than a pompass f-tard on the right who would bash her if it was a Dem candidate only serve up additional proof that what this country needs is a good enema.
A facist "Father Government" of the Left is as big a horror as Uncontrolled blind greed of the equally self absorbed jags on the Right.
Ladies and Gentlemen, your 2008 choices for President: Cancer or Polio.
"Who is John Galt?"
23. Rant - September 2, 2008 9:26 AM
Let's use this whole thread pointing out this is not Palin.
It is not enough if one or two people write about it. At least 75% of all posts are needed just to get the point through.
Fucking morons.
24. If McCain wins it's rigged for sure - September 2, 2008 9:28 AM
Who would honestly vote for these two imcompetents? Seriously it is a disgrace.
25. This site is fucking pathetic - September 2, 2008 9:29 AM
Oh, wow fast jump on the news there. Sorry, this broke awhile ago and nobody gives a flying fuck what your dumbass thinks of something to do with politics.
Get to posting more nudie photos and other pics of celebrities coked out of their fucking minds you worthless hack. You don't even own the site, you are just some loser being paid a tiny swum to post worthless cock sucking celebrity shit stain stories.
26. jenryanc - September 2, 2008 9:30 AM
How could it be hypocritical? Gov. Palin is anti-abortion and her daughter will be having a baby. I think that it is honorable that even though Bristol's pregnancy comes at the worst time in Gov. Palin's political career, she is first fulfilling her role as a mother and supporting her daughter. Seventeen year olds make mistakes...and it shows the strength of family that she has the support that she needs. If Palin had kicked her daughter out of the house and disowned her, THEN I would call her hypocritical...
27. Stating The Obvious - September 2, 2008 9:32 AM
#23, did you know the picture above is NOT Palin?
:-)
28. Nique - September 2, 2008 9:32 AM
This woman is sooo ridiculous!
I just read abou who she actually is and what she stands for...this pretty much contradicts with what happens to her daughter....
Wait...Palin is against sexual education at school...so here you go.
29. kok - September 2, 2008 9:32 AM
Funny how Sarah Palin opposes sex education for high schoolers.
Poor daughter. If only her mom had let learn about birth control, this could be avoided.
30. Ted Kennedy's tumor - September 2, 2008 9:35 AM
At least she is not going to murder her unborn child as most libs would do and will keep the child. From what I hear, she and the boyfriend will get married. So that will be one less single mother in the world.
I am no Obama fan at all, but he did a classy thing by saying that it is a matter between the parents and shouldn't be the topic of our polotics.
31. Condom Man - September 2, 2008 9:39 AM
CONDOM MAN DOES NOT APPROVE OF GOV. PALIN'S MOOSE-SHOOTING
32. Nique - September 2, 2008 9:41 AM
'#30
Haha, a 17 year old marrying the father of her unborn child. "So that will be one less single mother in the world." For about ...I give them 18months...and then she will be "One less married woman with a faithful husband and a great marriage".
Come on, you do not think this works, do you?
33. Nique - September 2, 2008 9:41 AM
'#30
Haha, a 17 year old marrying the father of her unborn child. "So that will be one less single mother in the world." For about ...I give them 18months...and then she will be "One less married woman with a faithful husband and a great marriage".
Come on, you do not think this works, do you?
34. Desert Rat - September 2, 2008 9:47 AM
Hey, ya know, maybe if Sarah Palin and/or her husband spent more time at home being involved in their 5 childrens lives, and less time promoting themselves, their careers, and shooting mooses (meece?), young Bristol might not have made this mistake. Or more to the point, wouldn 't have had the opportunity.
At any rate, I think it is perfectly valid to judge parents by their children, as they are primarily responsible for shaping their characters. In this case, young Bristol demonstrated that she totally does not respect any of the 'values' her parents espouse.
I guess it just goes to show that people are sexual creatures, and our mounting hysteria over under-age sex, birth control, abortion, etc. just highlight how completely dysfunctional our culture has become.
35. Mike - September 2, 2008 9:51 AM
#12 Osama/Obama thinks that there are 57 states in the US, which is clearly less informed than thinking that Czech is still a nation. Last I checked, he was running for the president of the US, I think you need to understand the breadth of the land you intend to lead before grasping nuances of other countries.
#32 My real world example is 18 years and still going. Just because YOU would personally leave the girl you knocked up, doesn't mean everyone is a piece of shit too.
36. melissa miller - September 2, 2008 9:52 AM
What's so wrong with wanting to have your baby and not run out and kill it? I don't get you, Americans.
Everyone goes all ape shit if someone is not for abortion. YOu should thank your mother she didn't abort you.
There are girls who have babies young all over the world. Heck your mom was probably 17 when she had you.
So wow....we call her a hyprocrite because she doesn't want to MURDER her child. Wow. So full of love and morals we are.
Whatever. Go have unprotected sex and then go run out and kill your baby because you're a coward. GO MURDER! YYYAAY!
37. melissa miller - September 2, 2008 9:52 AM
What's so wrong with wanting to have your baby and not run out and kill it? I don't get you, Americans.
Everyone goes all ape shit if someone is not for abortion. YOu should thank your mother she didn't abort you.
There are girls who have babies young all over the world. Heck your mom was probably 17 when she had you.
So wow....we call her a hyprocrite because she doesn't want to MURDER her child. Wow. So full of love and morals we are.
Whatever. Go have unprotected sex and then go run out and kill your baby because you're a coward. GO MURDER! YYYAAY!
38. you'reamoron - September 2, 2008 9:54 AM
That isn't even Sara Palin. Way to provide us with cutting edge election coverage...
39. asshat - September 2, 2008 10:01 AM
The party of "family values" comes through again...hahahahahaha....oh sweet irony.
At least they still haven't managed to get the "we love guns and oil" part wrong yet. Goodness, if this is how things look prior to your republican convention, just save your money and cede the election to Captain (no-policy) Hope.
40. Obama'saracisist - September 2, 2008 10:02 AM
Sarah is not for teenage pregnancy, just the government shoving their ideas and condems down people's throats. Parents should educate their own children on sex. Doesn't mean teens won't get pregnant either way. The left wingers just encourage their kids to kill their babies.
Why was Chelsea Clinton off limits, but this girl is not?
The haters are sweating. If she is so "imcompetent", you should be thrilled with this choice.
By the way, Obama's parents were never married. No one has said a word about that.
41. Rant - September 2, 2008 10:02 AM
#27 Yes, I knew that #14 #16 and #17 told us.....that was my point of everybody has to point it out. And now #38. And many more to come
42. shante mcnasty - September 2, 2008 10:02 AM
Everyone rags on Sarah because she only has 2 years of experience as a governor. Well wake up, Obama was only a SENATOR, he's never even been a governer.
He stands to socialize a nation. Do you guys even know what that means? I swear it's like you idiots prided yourself on ignorance.
A young girl gets pregnant and has her baby? How is that hypocritical? Do you even know what hypocritical is?? Hypocritical would be this...her daughter has an the baby and then kicks her out of the house or doesn't love and support her....that is HYPOCRISY.
You people are so uneducated. I'm not saying McCain is the best pres. electorate....but damn...
Like we needed TWO MORE old fogie geezers to get up in the White House and drive our country more into the ground. So what if there is a president up for election.
Men you hate on this all you want...I'm sure Sarah won't have stained pant suits because she gets it on with some intern and can't discipline herself and embarrass not only her family but a nation.
Get a grip you whimps and stop applauding people who kill their children and have the balls to not abort them.
Seriously. I'm sure you're on you're on your way to WalMart to buy some of you Obama signs because someone in China probably made it while being whipped with stick while their fingers lay bleeding at factory....you know...because you're not a hyprocrite or anything.
Our nation is weird.
43. Wes - September 2, 2008 10:03 AM
She is against sex education in schools, not at home.
It is the parents' job! Who wants pedophile teachers in charge of SEX EDUCATION?
She is not hypocritical at all.
44. Deacon Jones - September 2, 2008 10:05 AM
@37
You fucking idiot.
If this Palin can't get her own daughter to practive abstinence, then how the fuck can you justify teaching federal abstinence only sex-ed programs????
Go look at how the STD rate for high schoolers has skyrocketed since no one's wearing a fucking rubber anymore. Thankfully that hasn't showed up in the junior highs yet...
45. God - September 2, 2008 10:06 AM
Fucking whore.
46. Bjorny - September 2, 2008 10:06 AM
THIS LADY IS JUST BONKERS AND HER BABY IS A SLUT!
WAY TO APPEAL TO THE RED STATES MCCAIN. LET'S GO CELEBRATE MARTIN LUTHER KING DAY WITH OUR DICKS IN DALE ERNHEART RACING SUITS AND COORS LIGHT CAPS ON. TAP THE ROCKIES GO FOOTBALL AND OSAMA-BIN-LADEN-IS-QUEER.COM ALL OVER YOUR FACE.
WHEN YOU WAKE UP AND A NICE BLACK GUY HAS MADE AMERICA A BETTER PLACE, YOU CAN STOP HATING ON EVERYTHING OUTSIDE YOUR COMFORT ZONE AND START LOVING YOUR FELLOW MAN AGAIN. THE IRAQ WAR WILL END, AND BIGFOOT IS NOT REAL, YOUR DUMB FUCKING FRIENDS ALREADY PROVED THAT.
BJORNY.
47. Wesley again - September 2, 2008 10:07 AM
And why does the left (including Obama) think kids are punishment?
The right (including Palin) thinks they are blessings.
That defines the parties' differences.
48. Right Fury - September 2, 2008 10:08 AM
A right to life politician who's family practices what she preaches? That's pretty rare.
I'm sorry but I've become pro-choice folks...for Liberals. I wish they would ALL abort their kids, so as to not pollute us anymore. How's that for going green?
49. asshat - September 2, 2008 10:08 AM
actually #42, i'm fairly certain you don't know what hypocrite means...
in this context it might, oh i don't know, be used to refer to a woman who ardently talks about abstinence for teens but has a pregnant 17 year old daughter at home. or something like that. you moron.
source: Merriam-Webster
Main Entry: hypocrite
hyp·o·crite
Pronunciation:
\ˈhi-pə-ˌkrit\
Function:
noun
1 : a person who puts on a false appearance of virtue or religion
50. Clem - September 2, 2008 10:09 AM
Bristol? Bristol? What is a Bristol? I know it's a crap town in England but a girl's name? Nah.
Anyway, I hope that this kid likes fairy tales because if it's granny has anything to do with it it's going to a school that teaches creationism as a plausible explanantion for how the world came to be.
51. Canuck - September 2, 2008 10:09 AM
Bjorny, looks like you got hold of some bad crack?
52. mimi - September 2, 2008 10:11 AM
I agree with #25. FISH-GUTZ SUKS!
What is Britney up to?
53. Wesley again - September 2, 2008 10:11 AM
#49, again her stance is about what should be taught IN SCHOOLS.
Why oh why should we teach kids sex ed in schools when there are parents out there who can instill these values. Why outsource values education?
54. blah - September 2, 2008 10:33 AM
#53, not everyone is in a position where they can speak to their parents about things like that. Not everyones parents have the extensive information that teens need to make those types of decisions. Information like that should be standardized. We wouldn't let everyones parents teach them calculus, right?
55. justtheobvious - September 2, 2008 10:34 AM
Yeah, Jamie Lynn Spears gets knocked up and her show goes through the roof on Nickelodeon! This should do the same to you asswad people out there that think it is great! How much did she get for the pictures? Millions?
It's a shame that her 17 year old is pregnant, but, look at Bill Clinton's brother the retard that pisses on buildings. Don't forget Cheney's lesbian sister... No family is perfect, not even yours.
I'm still voting for the Milf. The dude that knocked up the daughter was probably just trying to get at her mom anyway.
56. Sam - September 2, 2008 10:52 AM
The specifics are irrelevant. McCain picked a VP who will generate distracting stories all the way up to the election (the "troopergate" investigation is scheduled to wrap up and report just a couple of days before the election). For this reason, Palin is the better than any other choice for McCain's VP - for the Democrats. They can't believe their extraordinary good luck.
57. Duke Nukem - September 2, 2008 10:54 AM
Palin wouldn't be a VP pick if she was a man. That says a lot about McCain's plan for the race: Pander to idiots who can't read between the lines.
58. Stankleberry - September 2, 2008 10:54 AM
"the hypocrisy of Governor Palin's faith-based public views on supporting abstinence-only education and overturning Roe v. Wade."
I don't think you know what the word hypocrisy means.
59. Yo yo yo - September 2, 2008 10:55 AM
Check it out:
Bristol Palin's fiancee and baby dad is this hockey player, Levi Johnston.
Levi has a sister. Levi's sister has a myspace. Yes, it's been set to PRIVATE as of yesterday, but the pages/photos were copied.
What's interesting there? Well in May of 2008, Levi's sister is referring to Gov. Palin as her "mother-in-law" on the page. She's calling Bristol "family" in another photo. We know from the NY Daily News that Bristol and Levi told friends in January 2008 that they were engaged. So what are we to make of Levi's sisters photos and captions? That the first baby (Trig) actually IS Levi's and Bristol's?
After all, in another photo from May 2008, Levi's sister calls Trig "her little brother."
http://theimmoralminority.blogspot.com/
and shots from the myspace:
http://flickr.com/photos/30128128@N04/
Note how thin Gov. Palin was looking for someone who gave birth fewer than four weeks earlier than the photo.
Good stuff!
60. gerard Vandenberg - September 2, 2008 10:56 AM
I think she took the statement: "YOU CAN NEVER START TOO EARLY", a bit too litteraly!!
61. Bridget - September 2, 2008 10:59 AM
Sarah Palin actually believes in using birth control.
62. SmokingGirl - September 2, 2008 10:59 AM
To be quite frank, schools should not be teaching sex-education. Rod A into Slot B is NOT sexual education.
Parents are to be the teachers of their children when it comes to sex, morality, values, and so on and so forth, not the schools. The school based sex-ed is pure mechanics and it does not fully encompass the whole of sexuality/sex.
Instead of people bitching about how schools should teach sex-ed, perhaps they should be bitching about parents passing the buck and assuming the state will teach their children about what they themselves are too embarassed to discuss. Bitch about the REAL issue; parents need to do their job.
And when it comes to Roe vs. Wade, it should be overturned. The Court does not make law nor should it presume to. The individual states and it's peoples should vote on the abortion issue, and once Roe vs. Wade is overturned and it is either passed as law in the House and Senate, or the individual states vote, then abortion will no longer be an issue.
Be logical people and stop with the knee-jerk emotional reactions. When there is emotions involved, then logic and reason go out the window.
63. Racer X - September 2, 2008 11:00 AM
HAHAHAHAAAAA!
/Lost My Vote
//Go Obama!!!
64. Cindy - September 2, 2008 11:00 AM
A teenage daughter gets pregnant when the parents are busy with concerns other than parenting. Look at Palin's choice right now - a newborn (with special needs, no less) who will get nearly ZERO attention from his mom, because she's too busy pursuing her career. You'd think we were talking about the Democrats - except, if you compare President Clinton's daughter to President Bush's daughters, again you get the party girls on the Republican side. If you want to hook up with sluts, just find the daughters of prominent Republican politicians. Nice fucking "family values."
65. Ted Mosby - September 2, 2008 11:01 AM
Goes to show that just cause the parents are neo-conservatives doesn't mean the children have to be. Kudos for the daughter getting her freak on.
66. Ed Abbott - September 2, 2008 11:02 AM
That picture is not actually the Republican VP it is the girl from Overstock.com Sabine Ehrenfeld. I think super needs to check their sources.
67. Right Fury - September 2, 2008 11:08 AM
I'm LOL at the people who are saying the child will get zero attention. These same people would have just aborted it.
baby killers.
68. JPRichardson (censorship is not nice) - September 2, 2008 11:12 AM
What is wrong with you guys?????
69. Right Fury - September 2, 2008 11:14 AM
@duke Nukem
I know, pandering to idiots is exactly how the democrats get elected.
70. Questions for Spineless Republicans - September 2, 2008 11:14 AM
1) Where is Osama ben Laden after your retard war-time pres. promised he would not rest until he found him? (Didn't he way something like do does not really think about it much 6 months later?)
2) How's the economy and how far into debt are we?
3)Wasn't McCain one of the Keating Five Criminals "exonerated"?
4)Do you think it is wise for us to be entrenched in two terribly costly wars that have thrown us in deep deep debt and then threaten Iran and now Russia?
5) How would we feel if Russian installed a missile defense shield say on the northern border of mexico to guard against cuba?
6) Why does Iran not have the right to nuclear energy when Israel has 20-40 nukes (Germany has a population of 80 million and has 0).
7) Why do we consider fetuses sacred and abhor birth control yet promote wars and murder of young children including our own soldiers (well the poor of course, sorry) all over the globe?
8) How is sex education a bad thing?
9) Why do republicans now defend Palin who obviously failed as a mother by having a high school student daughter pregnant? (Disgraceful, why is she having sex when her own mother preaches abstinence)
10) How are we ever going to pay off this debt?
71. Deva - September 2, 2008 11:14 AM
McCain picked this broad because she's a woman. Plain and simple. He saw how popular Hillary Clinton was and THOUGHT he could capitolize on the woman vote. Wrong move picking someone based on the pure fact she has a vagina. Even worse move is picking a woman who has a whore for a daughter.
Isn't it funny when a wrong choice (picking of running mate, finding out her daughter is a slut) sinks your chances for the presidency?
I think it's fucking hilarious. McCain thought he had the whole country fooled and this smacked him right in the balls.
NEXT!!!!!!!!!!!
72. shellibelli - September 2, 2008 11:17 AM
#37 who the fuck said that she had to go out and kill her baby? I could cre less if she kept it or aborted it - thats the beauty of Pro Choice - you actually have a right to do either one.
Stop thinking that because dems support pro choice that we want every fucking baby dead within a week. Get more educated will ya?
Its sad that her own mother after giving birth to a handicapped baby went to work after 3 days! How come you guys arent bitching about that? YOu need well more than 3 days to bond and care for a baby before passing it on to a nanny or relative.
This chick opposes sex ed in school and her daughter winds up preggers - that is a great form of irony - and one that shows this gal will not and can not learn from her mistakes.
73. shellibelli - September 2, 2008 11:17 AM
#37 who the fuck said that she had to go out and kill her baby? I could cre less if she kept it or aborted it - thats the beauty of Pro Choice - you actually have a right to do either one.
Stop thinking that because dems support pro choice that we want every fucking baby dead within a week. Get more educated will ya?
Its sad that her own mother after giving birth to a handicapped baby went to work after 3 days! How come you guys arent bitching about that? YOu need well more than 3 days to bond and care for a baby before passing it on to a nanny or relative.
This chick opposes sex ed in school and her daughter winds up preggers - that is a great form of irony - and one that shows this gal will not and can not learn from her mistakes.
74. Walter - September 2, 2008 11:18 AM
Is this Sarah Palin or Sabine Ehrenfeld?
75. (not)Right Fury - September 2, 2008 11:18 AM
"I'm LOL at the people who are saying the child will get zero attention. These same people would have just aborted it.
baby killers."
Yeah, keep saying that, I hope it comforts you when you vote for a mother who fails to put her family first, with some very obvious consequences.
76. peggy-o - September 2, 2008 11:19 AM
@64-cindy
did you post similar concerns about the children of john edwards? they are definitely not going to be getting ANY attention from their mother since she has incurable cancer, and yet he was pursuing the #1 job.
it is jointly the responsibility of BOTH parents to ensure a child is cared for.
77. Vote Democrat - September 2, 2008 11:20 AM
The Republicans have gone downhill according to their standards. McCain had an affair with his current wife while being married to his first wife. Now Palin's 17 year old daughter is pregnant and not married. Democrats understand people are human and make mistakes, but the Republicans have always tried to act righteous. If these were Democrats then the Republicans would make a huge campaign over their mistakes. I make a good salary because I chose a reliable career, but I have sympathy for the blue collar workers that have lost their jobs overseas. Vote Democrat so that we can fix Bushes mess once and for all.
78. shellibelli - September 2, 2008 11:21 AM
hey 75 reread my post you dumb ass,
And let me know when Sarah Palin puts her family first? # days going back to work after giving birth to a sick hanicap baby is not putting her family first.
get a life you nut job better yet - go work at an ophanage ( yeah they do exist) or a foster home and take care of all those babies you wanted to save will ya?
79. shellibelli - September 2, 2008 11:21 AM
hey 75 reread my post you dumb ass,
And let me know when Sarah Palin puts her family first? # days going back to work after giving birth to a sick handicap baby is not putting her family first.
get a life you nut job better yet - go work at an ophanage ( yeah they do exist) or a foster home and take care of all those babies you wanted to save will ya?
80. Eric - September 2, 2008 11:24 AM
I'm laughing so hard now. Don't you psycho right wingers get it? Palin is Bree Van de Kamp from Desperate Housewives. She's put all her energy into maintaining an outward appearance of flawless conservative values, but inside her family it's a psycho ward. Who says her daughter is 5 months pregnant, and not, say, 3 months, or 2 months? Who says this is her first pregnancy? There's still plenty of information out there suggesting that Palin's youngest, Trig, is not her own son. McCain picked Bree Van de Kamp, and because she so desperately wants to believe her own facade, she accepted. Now he's stuck with what will go down in history as one of the most entertainingly fatal choices of a VP.
81. Smoking Pole Girl (Hllbilly?) - September 2, 2008 11:24 AM
Insert Rod A into slot B in your version of sex education?
Man you republicans sure are weak in the logic department.
We have an AIDS epidemic out there morons. We NEED to teach our children ALL ABOUT SEX and it's ramifications.
Why don't you republicans go live with the Amish?
82. shellibelli - September 2, 2008 11:25 AM
#70 nice post but the reps wont repsond or if they do it will somehow all be Bill Clinton's fault.
83. Big Joe - September 2, 2008 11:25 AM
@ Desert Rat: which is it? Humans are sexual beings or Palin doesn't know how to raise a kid? your statement is a contradiction
@ Cindy-Chelsea was and is butt-fucking ugly....I don't know one guy who would fuck her w/ your dick and Superficial writer pushing. The Bush twins got busted underage drinking, which I'm guessing 95% of the people that visit this site have run in to....they weren't out banging guys or....interns, like Clinton did. And here's a question: how many sluts in the adult industry vote for democrats? I'd say at least 99%
84. Wendy - September 2, 2008 11:28 AM
"it is jointly the responsibility of BOTH parents to ensure a child is cared for."
Fuck you. Conservative social-values religious nutjobs spend 23.99 hours per day talking about the importance of traditional roles (traditional mother and traditional father), and how they're derived from God's own word. Then something like this comes along, and because they want Obama to lose, suddenly they start talking like San Francisco liberals.
You're fooling nobody.
85. George Carlin - September 2, 2008 11:31 AM
Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers.
86. peggy-o - September 2, 2008 11:33 AM
#84
nooooooo. fuck you.
the father is absolutely responsible for caring for a child. what about that thought makes you angry?
87. shellibelli - September 2, 2008 11:33 AM
Bg JOe
you left out JOhn Mccain,, Newt Gingrich ( yeah can you believe he found someone to fuck?!) god I am sure a whole score of them all banged interns or screwed around on their wives and still held a bible in their hand and screamed IMPEACH CLINTON!
And drunk and partying goes hand to hadn wtih screweing and and fuckin.
YOu are indeed blind to the fact that all they did was drink - but then you MUST have been there and saw it all yourself right? Two faced asshole is what you are, Scream about the dems and their infidelities but what about COKE head Bush? how many dui's he have with a family member in the car?
But thats ok! cause he didnt sleep around on Laura did he? well not that you know FOR SURE,
88. hollywood_hillbilly - September 2, 2008 11:40 AM
The more conservative the parents, the more slutty the daughters. Kids will see through the lies and hypocrisy. Besides, what the fukc else are you gonna do in alaska besides get your nut on.
A few other things: the plural of moose is moose, promoting abstinence only sexual education when your 17 year old unwed daughter is pregnant and likely has already had a child is hypocritical, firing your director of public safety because he wouldn't fire your ex-brother in law shows poor character.
89. Wendy - September 2, 2008 11:42 AM
"the father is absolutely responsible for caring for a child. what about that thought makes you angry?"
Wrong again, sweetie. What conservatives say all day long - except right now, with the Palin situation - is that the father is responsible for being the head of the family: earning the money, making decisions, laying down discipline. The actual "caring for a child" part - changing diapers, drying tears, hugs - is the mother's role. I've heard it plenty of times in church and so have you. Stop lying.
90. Pat - September 2, 2008 11:47 AM
Palin simply reveals the single-issue fanaticism of the anti-abortion crowd. Palin could get on stage at the RNC and roast her retarded newborn at the spit, then peel off strips of him and eat it with barbecue sauce while she gives her acceptance speech, and the anti-abortion psychos would still support her - exclusively because she (or...somebody...) gave birth. McCain got his far-right support by choosing Palin, and in the process lost all of his independent voters, for a huge net loss. Game over.
91. peggy-o - September 2, 2008 11:49 AM
#89 aka sweetie
my husband and i are mutually responsible for our children.
i don't know what church you belong to or why you would listen to garbage like that in the first place. i don't need instructions from a church or a political group to know that my children need both of us.
my comments aren't even against obama-i'm not sure why you are getting so angry.
92. Bosco - September 2, 2008 11:57 AM
At least her daughter isn't gay, she isn't gay right?
93. Wendy - September 2, 2008 11:58 AM
"i don't know what church you belong to"
What I wrote can be heard on Sundays at any number of conservative Christian churches around the country, especially those that are active in politics within the Republican Party. Hypocrisy makes me angry. Right now, Republicans (the party of Mark Foley, chairman of the House Caucus on Missing and Exploited Children) are setting new records for hypocrisy. Suddenly they have a very feminist view of a man's proper role in society (as a snuggly-wearing diaperbag-toting househusband) and a very sexually liberated view of the factors that lead to teen pregnancy (certainly NOT lack of parental involvement, discipline, and values...suddenly).
If Palin were Obama's VP choice, all you would hear is how liberal Democrats are destroying American culture by promoting promiscuity. That's the truth and you know it.
94. g - September 2, 2008 12:04 PM
If this bitch goes in with McCain, it'll be the White Trash House....
95. peggy-o - September 2, 2008 12:07 PM
#93
hypocrisy makes everyone angry.
i think it's very hypocritical that she is getting hammered by the same people that thought john edwards 'abandoning' his children in the wake of their mother dying was okay. i don't see how one is defended and one isn't when everyone knows both parents should (be) involved and responsible regardless of what is supposedly being preached in your church.
96. lala - September 2, 2008 12:08 PM
That's not the governor's picture, that is a model duh
97. Kennedy - September 2, 2008 12:10 PM
#93
Wendy you are very informed and aware of politiics. I hope more people take the time to become informed voters instead of listening to the Republican propaganda.
98. Big Joe - September 2, 2008 12:14 PM
shelliebelli...I'm guessing your moniker is for your fat liberal gut. Bush came out told the whold world about his partying ways...at least he didn't kill a girl in a drunk driving accident ala Ted Kennedy. And here's where it gets interesting...McCain's first wife actually cheated on him while he was Vietnam...they seperated when he returned and he started seeing Cindy. Stop reading the dailykos and actually do some research of your own...I know this is the way of the left...news regurgitation. Yes, Newt cheated on his wife, but he wasn't running for the #1 job in the land and he wasn't the President at the time, like Clinton was when he buttfucked Lewinsky (in the FBI report). As far as the Bush girls go, no, I wasn't there, but neither were you and now you're just speculating and being a bitch-face liberal. Or are you saying when you drink you fuck somebody every time? That, bitch-face, is being a slut, or whore. But I'm guessing your probably as attractive as Janet Reno and therefore blog about the pretty girls so you can make your liberal, fat, ugly, no dick getting self feel better. Now, I am pro life unless the mother's life is at risk and I think your mother should have aborted you so she wouldn't have to go through life w/ a ass-face daughter. Oh, and go fuck yourself, you worthless piece of liberal shit
99. Melissa - September 2, 2008 12:14 PM
That is just fucked up. There has to be some heavenly power that will deter these assholes from winning the White House. That is utter and complete bullshit.
100. Ron - September 2, 2008 12:15 PM
Palin needs to look in a mirror and for once in her life, ignore how her hair and makeup look. She needs to look herself in the eye and ask if she's helping or hurting her family, her country, and her political party. Again - for once in her life - ask in that order of priority.
I'm a "religious conservative" and I'm disgusted with my supposed fellow believers. They appear to be willing to embrace anyone who will promote their most zealous issue: outlawing abortion. The single most important societal issue right now, because of the selfish baby-boomers, is restoring the ideal of parents willingly sacrificing themselves to make the lives of their children better. This is the first American generation with LOWER educational levels, LOWER achievement scores, and LOWER levels of income than their (selfish) parents. All important issues require sacrifices to resolve, and we will get nowhere as long as parents turn over their kids to nannies and their teens to cars and cellphones, instead of doing the hard work of parenting.
Palin's daughter is showing how her mom has failed, and she continues to make me-first choices. If her infant could talk, do you really think he'd say "oh sure, daddy's just as good, I don't care if I don't see mommy for weeks and weeks"? If Palin wants to stand for anything, she needs to begin making right choices right now.
101. Andrea - September 2, 2008 12:23 PM
Palin needs to tearfully announce that as much as she loves her country and wants to serve, she cannot bear to be apart from her newborn son. Then go on to tearfully describe all the challenges he'll face as a special needs child, and how she's always be there for him, not from a distance, but right at his side.
Christ, I'm almost in tears already from that drivel. It would work like a fucking charm, especially if the hardball Republican operatives then launch a full-scale attack on the "character assassination mentality" of "the liberal media." If McCain can cry (it's hard to imagine) he needs to shed a few tears about Palin and her son (NOT her daughter) in the preamble to his announcement of his new NOT COMPLETELY FUCKED UP choice for VP.
Do it today, Johnny boy, or you have no chance.
102. maeby - September 2, 2008 12:24 PM
if she cant control what goes on in her own home, she most certainly cant control an ENTIRE NATION.
103. Ignio - September 2, 2008 12:29 PM
McCain is going to stick with Palin out of pure stubbornness. He's that type of guy - "maverick" in his case = impulsive plus stubborn. Ironically, sticking with Palin will make him look exactly like Bush, unwilling to admit to even a single mistake while making a bunch of them, obviously. Palin won't sink Bush, not directly. But he'll show a side no independent voter wants to see: he's wrong, obviously, and he refuses to admit it and correct his mistakes. After 8 years of being held hostage by Bush, independent voters won't put up with somebody like that again.
104. quake - September 2, 2008 12:30 PM
That photo is *not* Palin.
105. FACE - September 2, 2008 12:34 PM
Dont we need to return some respectibility to the White House. THe rest of the world no longer respects us. Is a VP pick like this going to make the USA look smart and honest aafter it preaches to the internatinal community? What about the role model for America that the VP should be?
106. Right Fury - September 2, 2008 12:36 PM
Shellibelli isn't smart enough to not double-post. TWICE. thats someone i'll trust to tell me how to run my life.
The Liberals on this board are really making me laugh my ass off. They scream hipocracy but they don't have any moral ground to stand on when their Heroes are Bill Clinton, ted kennedy, ayers, and rev wright.
They scream PRO-choice, but when a teenager chooses life, she becomes a whore and her mother is a horrible.
They would kill an unborn child without a thought, yet deathrow inmates deserve to live.
Let's face the only thing you liberals have in common, is that you AREN'T republicans. That's the only bond you have, other than being a collection of degenerates, socialists/communists, gays/lesbos, pot heads, and baby killers.
Don't you all think you should move? Wouldn't you be happier in the UK or Germany? I realize canada is a little cold.
107. celebs love me - September 2, 2008 12:36 PM
How is it hypocritical for her to teach her children what she believes is right? Children are their own people and make their own decisions, she's a failure because she didn't "control" her daughter? I think the fact that she is embracing her daughter and her baby despite the choices she made shows that she is an excellent mother. Not to mention keeping the baby--because she's pro-life. Where's the hypocrisy again?
108. go.away.commies - September 2, 2008 12:42 PM
So what. I heard that she once got a "does not play well with others" on her kindergarten report card...better alert the NY Times, MSNBC and all the other left wing hate mongers...
109. Moonchild_65 - September 2, 2008 12:48 PM
Hey Big Joe:
Go fuck your mother , you right wing knob.
110. Jumpin_J - September 2, 2008 12:49 PM
Well at least she's consistent on being anti-abortion. Give it up for Downs syndrome kids and shotgun marriages! Yeeee-haaaaaw!
111. Joe - September 2, 2008 12:50 PM
blah blah blah
rant rant rant
liberal "commies" (what year is it, again?)
...your demented candidate chose poison as his VP and now he'll die a slow death. Plenty of people don't want to vote for Obama for a wide variety of reasons, from legit (he has no qualifying experience to be president) to depressing (all the racists), and all McCain had to do was keep up his steady sniper attacks. Instead, he got bored and went for a look at me, I'm a maverick! moment, and shot himself in the foot. Now I'm starting to wonder if he intentionally flew into that North Vietnamese anti-aircraft fire...
112. Moonchild_65 - September 2, 2008 12:51 PM
Right Fury -
Go shave off your goatee , stop watching Nascar, jerking off to pictures of Ann Coulter and get a job.
113. bethany - September 2, 2008 12:57 PM
Palin looks like she's the mother(lode) of all 24-hour-news/internet controversies. Very juicy stuff. Now there's not really going to be a presidential campaign. Instead it'll be weeks of "stories" broken first by the National Enquirer.
Too bad, we really needed a good look at where we are as a country and where we need to go. Ain't gonna happen. In all seriousness, I really do wonder exactly what Obama will do as President. There's no way of knowing. What he'll do, I mean - not that he'll be President. Unless McCain very skillfully dumps Palin and substitutes an experienced conservative heavyweight, he has no chance at all. Too bad - in a way, he was the perfect foil for Obama: wealth of experience and service to his country, bumbling speaker with flashes of honest anger and irritation with all the bs of politics, extremely likable. He could have won.
114. go.away.commies - September 2, 2008 12:59 PM
So what. I heard that she once got a "does not play well with others" on her kindergarten report card...better alert the NY Times, MSNBC and all the other left wing hate mongers...
115. Jumpin_J - September 2, 2008 1:01 PM
shellibelli, you forgot that congressman Vetter from Louisiana busted for hookers and Larry Craig. He's back in town for the convention! Quick, lock up the men's room (tap, tap, tap)!
116. john - September 2, 2008 1:01 PM
How can you be pro-life and go around killing animals?
117. A Woman - September 2, 2008 1:02 PM
Following politics means checking your brain at the door, so I don't bother with that circus. They're all the same, anyway, and they sure don't care about us! However, I scanned this article in passing, and I have to say I'm not surprised in the least. All I want to know is, why does humanity insist on being so utterly wretched??
118. vanessa - September 2, 2008 1:02 PM
Palin's pregnant daughter just proves how wrong her views on sexual education are. And if she can't get her own daughter to abide by her beliefs, how can she get the country at large to do so?
That's why the issue is important and should be discussed.
Vote for democracy, not idiocracy!
119. sla - September 2, 2008 1:03 PM
Grandma says: "Bristol and the young man she will marry are going to realize very quickly the difficulties of raising a child, which is why they will have the love and support of our entire family."
Well isn't that special. "Abstinence only" didn't work for these kids but thank God they've got family to stand behind them. What if you are 17 and don't have a family to support you? Or what if your father is the one who got you pregnant? Or what if you are a crack whore living on the street?
For a pregnant teen, Bristol is LUCKY. She's got health, family, insurance, a boyfriend who will stand behind her. Many, many pregnant teens don't have the circumstances that will allow them to make the choice Bristol is making!
Palin makes me literally sick to my stomach. She is so represenatitive of the fanatic rights' view of "look at my, my life is working, I can handle any problem, everyone should do as I do." My God.
120. Elliot_Spitz_On_Her - September 2, 2008 1:05 PM
#106 - Uuuhhhh... they're whores for getting knocked up, not for keeping the kid. That's just the parting gift, like a set of steak knives, except you don't have to feed steak knives. If the girl would have allowed her reluctant soon to be(I just fucked her once dammit!!!) husband to splash her face, this would have never happened. Oh, and Germany is more the speed of the GOP, what with its imperial and facist history.
121. Jumpin_J - September 2, 2008 1:08 PM
And "Big Joe", which I'm sure is all true (snark), you're right. Widdle Bush didn't kill anyone. Now Barbara, on the other hand, DID run over a boyfriend and killed him. But that's beating your party up more and we can't handle that, can we Biggie?
122. SmokingGirl - September 2, 2008 1:10 PM
No, #81, that is not my version of sexual education. That is the school systems version. Perhaps one should actually read and comprehend posts before waxing poetic about it.
*sigh* It's sad that some people act so typical that it only fulfills stereotypes.
123. No VEEP - September 2, 2008 1:12 PM
One word: ABORTION
124. Smitty - September 2, 2008 1:13 PM
that's not Gov. Pailin in that photo jerk
125. Smitty - September 2, 2008 1:13 PM
that's not Gov. Pailin in that photo jerk
126. Smitty - September 2, 2008 1:13 PM
that's not Gov. Palin in that photo jerk
127. not you - September 2, 2008 1:14 PM
This is a fuckin joke. we are supposed to be electing a fuckin PRESIDENT. A PRESIDENT. shit like this has never happened in history! Americans are fuckin mind controlled, drama hungry idiots...And you are ok with that. Patriots... Why is any of this on the news?? And do you people really think your votes matter... So God Damned Blind... NONE OF THIS MATTERS...WHEN WILL PEOPLE WAKE UP!!!
128. we - September 2, 2008 1:17 PM
The mother is seriously the one who is responsible for this. She knew that as a VP running mate she was going to be put in front of the media! Why would she want to put her daughter through that. Shouldn't she be at home taking care of her special needs baby. The fact that this lady's water broke and she proceeded on taking a 7+ (iirc) hour flight back to Alaska while "in labor" reaaally makes me wonder about her judgment in general. I know all of this doesn't relate to her qualifications as VP but we need to think of it more of the lines of her qualifications to be president (cuz McCain is a zombie) and her ability to dedicate the time to it and not her pregnant daughter and special needs baby.
129. quake - September 2, 2008 1:31 PM
That photo is actually Sabine Ehrenfeld.
She's the chick from the old Overstock.com commercials.
130. Big Joe - September 2, 2008 1:35 PM
Hey Jumpin J-is that Barbara Bush story right next to her paying for an abortion for the President on Moveon.org? And even if she did, she wasn't running for President...Kennedy actually drove his car into a river w/ a young girl in it, while he was drunk and didn't even try to save her. Oh, and what about your fag governor from New Jersey who was cheating on his wife w/ a guy? How 'bout Spitzer w/ a hooker and the new governor of NY, both he and his wife cheated on one another? Moonchild...nice "40 yr old virgin" quote...try being original, like, go fuck yourself w/ your mother's strap-on. To John- w/o hunting, those cute little animals would tear up farm land, car/animal accidents would sky rocket and as a whole, each animal and every animal would die do to "over-crowding" in their habitat. Oh, and animals were put on this earth for us to eat them, baby's were not. Mabey: You give the same argument that we (republicans) asked about Hillary: How can she control the country if she can't control her husband (or her home life).
131. Right Fury - September 2, 2008 1:38 PM
@ moonchild.
LOLOLOOLOLLL
I'm clean shaven
Nascar is boring
Ann Coulter reminds me of the crypt keeper.
I have a very nice job, where I can browse the internets all day.
Why don't you put down the pot, take off your tie-dye Che' t-shirt, leave the abortion clinic, and turn off "the view" you walking joke.
132. syn - September 2, 2008 1:42 PM
#26 & #30 (And I'm sure there are more of you, but I couldn't take it anymore and stopped reading)...
I agree with you. There would be a story here if Palin had taken her daughter to have an abortion. THAT would have been hypocritical and against her claimed conservative values.
Most families in America has been touched by this kind of issue in one way or another. And, um... Obama's mom was 18 and unwed when he was born. Where does that put you lib idiots' arguments?
I'm starting to think that we need a tool to screen out geniuses who make their political decisions based on what Diddy says on effing youtube. Morons like that would be doing their civic duty to stay home, watch Mtv and not ever procreate. I'm all for you collecting food stamps and getting subsidized housing if it means we don't have to deal with your social and political input.
133. realstory - September 2, 2008 1:46 PM
the real story is that this woman has no family values. lets her little kids go basically unmothered until they hook up with some redneck piece of shit for attention and get knocked up b ecause they are dumb. great. another dumb redneck born out of an accident to teens who can't deal.
134. other - September 2, 2008 1:47 PM
oh and by the way, trig was that girl's child too. read up on it.
135. Thomas - September 2, 2008 1:52 PM
Palin's policy on abstinence only "sex education" has worked wonders with her own family
LMAO
136. Right Fury - September 2, 2008 1:55 PM
@elliot
You're right bro. OBAMA's MAMA is a whore too!
LOL,
Nope, sorry Germany is all you guys. 35 to 45% tax rate for middle class. Those socialists are your heroes. Vote Obama!
In my previous collection of democrats I forgot to include low-income families. I apologize. It's much easier to by Pot with a welfare check than to hold a regular job. I mean, what's the point? there'd be no time to smoke it!
137. Thomas - September 2, 2008 1:56 PM
All of you are missing why she's a hypocrite. This has nothing to do with abortion. She is a vehement promoter of abstinence only but couldn't even reaise her children to follow her. THAT is the hypocrisy. Great, she's keeping the kid, woohoo. She's lucky, she has loaded parents and won't have to put the child up or abort it. That is not always the case for other women. Palin's mere existence in politics is a slap in the face to all the woman who fought and died for her right to be a Governor in the first place!
138. Shep - September 2, 2008 1:59 PM
Only the Republicans could screw up something so easy as to pick a VP out of a substantial list of qualified candidates. The scary part is the amount of Americans that will still vote for McCain after 8 years of Bush and after this madness. It takes a special kind of people I guess.......... the illiterate, beer drinking, nascar watching, racist, car parts on your front lawn kind. Is anybody else feeling like seeing the star spangled banner. I know I sure am.
P.S I'd like to apologize to the 20-30 percent of Americans that aren't like this. Keep fighting the good fight guys and keep being pissed that your president can pronounce simple words correctly.
139. thomas - September 2, 2008 2:00 PM
136,
wow, talk about low! His mother worked hard to raise her children and then died of cancer after giving everything she ever could to them. They went to ivy league schools, became professionals, and have a lot more to show for themselves than you ever will.
no need for name calling man. that's just disrespectful, especially when you're talking about your next president's mother.
140. VidCrayzee - September 2, 2008 2:13 PM
For a humorous take on Palin’s pregnancy pickle check out, http://beema.wordpress.com/2008/09/01/beema-news-september-1-2008/.
141. Overkill - We get the point - September 2, 2008 2:16 PM
#14,16,17,23,27,38, 96,104,124,125,126, and #129 all stated this is not Palin.
Therefore, the knowledge that this not Palin's photo is well documented.
Anyone commenting hereafter that this not Palin is a jagoff, and not "fish" Cause obviously you are not doing your research to make sure your nugget of widsom was not already discussed.
142. Elliot_Spitz_On_Her - September 2, 2008 2:25 PM
#136 - The whole "I know you are but what am I?" approach is kinda lame dude. Face it, unlike Bristol's boyfriend 5+ months ago, she'll withdraw. Funny how you GOPers were all crying how you'd stay home if McCain won, and now he's the best thing since geritol.
143. Hatey McWrathenstein - September 2, 2008 2:31 PM
Anybody else think she looks a bit like Aria Giovanni in that pic?
144. Eric - September 2, 2008 2:46 PM
She is a total joke!! McCain lost the election as soon as he choose her!
145. Eric - September 2, 2008 2:46 PM
She is a total joke!! McCain lost the election as soon as he choose her!
146. Scott Fillmer - September 2, 2008 2:52 PM
I can't believe how many people are ready to just axe this woman before she even gets going... is she really that scary to everyone? Finally had to write my own blog post about her just to counter act the smear campaign everyone seems interested in participating against her.
http://d.amasc.us/2008/09/02/sarah-palin-smear-campaign/
She deserves the same chance everyone gets and shouldn't be smeared with statements that are not facts (IMO).
147. Borderline Anarchist - September 2, 2008 3:00 PM
(SIGH) Anyone who needs to get their "moral compass" from government is a moron anyway. Why anyone cares what their neighbor does, especially if it doesn't involve rape, incest, murder, or arson is beyond me. When did we become a nation of sheep, to follow whatever political party A or B or the media tells us to do?
The founders are rolling over in their graves right now.....
148. Ronnie - September 2, 2008 3:11 PM
So you have outed yourself, it is evident that you are a scum sucking Democrat.
It's a shame that your unwed mother doesn't know who your father is!
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149. Bill - September 2, 2008 3:17 PM
Sex-ed classes are usefulll... alot.
Bristol will be forced to marry a boy she doesn't even know, just to save her mother's carreer.
Ah ! GOP good old values...
150. cyelsm - September 2, 2008 3:29 PM
#148
you too have outed yourself, as a redneck republican your mother knows your father is he's her brother. get over yourself.
151. JoshA - September 2, 2008 3:30 PM
I feel bad for the daughter and her BF. This sucks for them. I know they are responsible for their actions, but I doubt that either of them thought that they whole national media might talk about it---there was no reason to expect Palin to be VP 5 months ago.
I'm a bit surprised Palin would accept the slot knowing about this. She had to know the media scrutiny of the kids was coming, after watching Chelsea Clinton the Bush twins.
Hopefully, though, everyone can just leave the daughter and her BF alone. The Republicans can stop pretending that they suddenly think unwed teenage pregnancy is family values personified, and everyone else can focus on whether Sarah Palin is up to the task of being VP, and leave her daughter out of it.
152. cyelsm - September 2, 2008 3:40 PM
To #136 Obama's mother was married to his father dumb ass if you checked your facts you would have known the divorced after he was born. Even though your parents marriage was illegal (incense).
153. shellibelli - September 2, 2008 3:41 PM
# 95 hey show me an article that it says the liberals said it was ok that Edwards adandoned his children with his wife being near death.
again stop putting words in a dems mouth thanks!
154. Falena - September 2, 2008 3:46 PM
McCain knew exactly what he was doing.
Using the fundamentalists cult to gain power for the rich and greedy.
Old story, new script.
Wake up America,,!
No Bizarro Mom for VP!
What kind of Mother would rat on her daughter publicly to prove her own defense?
There are other ways you know.
Nah, this was all planned..US is feeding out their dirty republican hands.
Dems walk eggshells to keep the fundamentalists from turning into a hornets nest.
She should be laughed out of public, never taken one bit seriously.
155. Lux - September 2, 2008 3:48 PM
Some republicans here state their point in a calm, civilized, polite manner.
But most of them just go "fuck you you fuckin fuck you're poor sucks to be you fuck off and die fuck poor people kill em all".
Wow. Impressive.
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157. icarus - September 2, 2008 3:57 PM
I'm going to laugh my ass off when (not if) the boyfriend boogies off.
158. ComradObama - September 2, 2008 3:59 PM
Comrades, the ones calling Palin's daughter a whore, don't you see similarities with Obama's mom? Is she a slut too? And your American Idol is a fucking bastard too? His mom never married Hussein Senior.
Talking about family values. Does Junior know about his half bro from Kenia?
159. icarus - September 2, 2008 3:59 PM
I'm going to laugh my ass off when the boyfriend boogies off, the daughter's on crack and the bitch is raising 4 grandkids.
160. icarus - September 2, 2008 4:00 PM
I'm going to laugh my ass off when the boyfriend boogies off, the daughter's on crack and the bitch is raising 4 grandkids. She'll be pro-abortion then!!
161. Grace - September 2, 2008 4:06 PM
... that picture isn't of Sarah Palin, good job using google image though.
162. Baroke NObama - September 2, 2008 4:07 PM
#21 - If this had been Barak's 17 year old daughter, she would've been 13 when getting pregnant, but have gotten it "taken care of" to save his sanitized Disney campaign.
163. Right Fury - September 2, 2008 4:13 PM
@155 Lux
That has to be the most biased post i've seen.
LOL. You guys are clowns
164. peggy-o - September 2, 2008 4:18 PM
#153
read my original post-don't embarrass yourself with a dim-witted attack.
it was a question-where was the outcry regarding edwards seeking to take the most challenging job in the world with a dying wife and young children.
it's a valid question
165. Clillary Hinton - September 2, 2008 4:22 PM
#88: Does that mean Obama's grandparents were Strom Thurmond & Ann Coulter?
It's possible, considering he's about 12 years old. Trying to talk like a grown-up.
Aid workers are sluuuuuuuuuuuuuuuts. But unfunkable...all have HPV / cooch warts.
166. Lux - September 2, 2008 4:35 PM
@163: yeah, right, giving proper credit to ppl with an education (hence my using the adjectives "calm" or "civilized") is being biased.
Oh, wait, you thought my comment was directed at you?
And BTW, can you tell me to what "guys" I belong to? I would be glad to know.
167. Questions for Spineless Republicans (I dare you to answer) - September 2, 2008 4:50 PM
1) Where is Osama ben Laden after your retard war-time pres. promised he would not rest until he found him? (Didn't he way something like do does not really think about it much 6 months later?)
2) How's the economy and how far into debt are we?
3)Wasn't McCain one of the Keating Five Criminals "exonerated"?
4)Do you think it is wise for us to be entrenched in two terribly costly wars that have thrown us in deep deep debt and then threaten Iran and now Russia?
5) How would we feel if Russian installed a missile defense shield say on the northern border of mexico to guard against cuba?
6) Why does Iran not have the right to nuclear energy when Israel has 20-40 nukes (Germany has a population of 80 million and has 0).
7) Why do we consider fetuses sacred and abhor birth control yet promote wars and murder of young children including our own soldiers (well the poor of course, sorry) all over the globe?
8) How is sex education a bad thing?
9) Why do republicans now defend Palin who obviously failed as a mother by having a high school student daughter pregnant? (Disgraceful, why is she having sex when her own mother preaches abstinence)
10) How are we ever going to pay off this debt?
168. shellibelli - September 2, 2008 5:07 PM
again Reps being so conservative and so relgious are the most abusive ones to post here to date.
Let me just say I dont care who has sex with who or how many t imes while in any kind of office. What I do mind is that the ones who run on "family values" platforms and Holier than Thou attitudes want to impeach someone who did have an affair when they themselves are keeping hookers or a mistress on the side.
Lets not forget Mark Foley going after underage boy( and was never charged!) but I guess since he was Pro Life that makes it all ok. I am sure he picked up that bible and promptly hid behind it when he was caught, and ran to rehab with it.
Big Joe you deserve whatever nasty mean thing that may happen in your life - though by your attitude Id assume its already happened. I assume by your moniker you were going for something funny or obscene or maybe its the name you gave your favorite vaginal wart on one of the hookers you have chained up in your basement right now. You just ask Jesus for forgivness and Praise the lord it shall be!
Right Fury leave that cult that you are in now! Pronto! and itf my twice posting is the worse thing that you can say then I am ok for today!
and if either of you want any of your posts to be taken seriously then please line them with facts, it also helps if you actually debate someones post rather than just scream baby killer baby killer!
You hate abortions and hate anyone who supports Pro Choice, you scream baby killer! baby killer! to anyone who posts anything Pro Choice. yet you both support and stand behind Bush and his lying administration?
They lied to take us to war and how many US soldiers were killed? or civilians? What does that make you two? Should I call you guys soldier killers?
Does it make it ok cause Bush ex-coke head is anti abortion? is this the theme you guys care for? HE lied, its been proven! he did drugs! he had dui's ! his administration tortured our prisoners as well. The list goes on and on. he is a fucking embarressment.
Reps have twisted logic, you dont believe in abortions, most dont believe in birth control, or sex education in school. SO you get underage preganancies like Bristol Palin and ingore the fact that where the fuck were upstanding parents at when she was bonking her BF? plus she was obvioulsy lying to her parents when about the bonking as well.
you reps are so two faced, so double standard and this is why you get mad! I am just saying. I know it happens on both sides and Its funny as well. and you get so fucking mad and abusive when you are faced with the truth.
So you gloss over fact based comments and thorw in shit thats starts with "they" or "you people" so obvious to lump everyone that doesnt share your opinions.
and to be fair I am well aware unlike you guys my party has its faults, I am still shocked that kennedy got a standing ovation at the DNC the other night because of his past and the drowning of his assistent. Unlike you Big Joe I am sure more happened behind the scenes than what was reported and I am "willing" to agree that since we werent there it was most likely worse then what was reported anyway. BUt you live in that dream world of yours anyway I like you best there.
The next time a family values rep gets caught with a hooker, a child, or a gay - I am going to think of you two zeolots. big Joe and Right fury, going to laugh when they run to rehab for some addiction with their bible. Screaming pro life all the way!!
169. Right Fury - September 2, 2008 5:17 PM
@ LUX
I'm laughing at your dumb post because you made the statement:
"Some republicans here state their point in a calm, civilized, polite manner.
But most of them just go "fuck you you fuckin fuck you're poor sucks to be you fuck off and die fuck poor people kill em all". "
How BLATANTLY biased is that you retard. Look at ALL the posts! There's demoncrats calling people whores and all sorts of derogatory names. Did you miss those? Aren't you democrats supposed to love everyone regardless? Where's the Love guys? Where is the Love?
You watch too much CNN.
BTW if every woman that got knocked up out of wedlock suddenly lost their voter reg. card, the Libs would NEVER win an election.
Oh and when I say you guys, I mean just you LUX. You're cracking me up.
170. Right Fury - September 2, 2008 5:28 PM
@ shelli
I'm not mad!!! LOL I'm laughing at you. You are hilarious! I cannot believe you would think that I think the Reps have no faults.
Fact: Obama is friends with a domestic terrorist
Fact: Obama's spiritual mentor whom he wrote about in his book is a racist and america hater.
Fact: Obama will raise taxes.
Sure, McCain sucks and he's a lefty. But he ISN'T Obama. Period.
171. twzzlrgirl - September 2, 2008 5:34 PM
I take exception with everyone saying that the Republicans think having a baby is such a blessing, they wouldn't kill they're baby, blah, blah, blah. Ok, so the woman had her five kids...and then does what? Goes out and leaves them while she pursues and extremely complicated, time consuming career.
Any moron can HAVE a baby...it takes someone who really cares to raise it right and care for it; and it takes patience and hard work to pass on true family values. A village, be damned...it takes a parent to raise a child, and clearly these two haven't been around their kids nearly enough.
172. Whatev - September 2, 2008 5:37 PM
#43
Okay, first of all Palin is against teaching kids about condoms, birthcontrol and other base subjects about safe sex. She is not saying sexual education should not be taught in school. She is just saying her religious views of sexual education should be taugh in school. Which is no sex before marriage. Now if these are her views and she had taught them to her daughter, why did she go out and have sex before marriage? Really, if she had taught her daughter about proper birthcontrol, she MIGHT not be in this situation. Also, referring to the underpaid people who teach our future generations as "pedophiles" is a very tastless way to try (in anger) to make your point valid. Oh and this, by the way, does make her a hypocrite because if she can not teach her own daughter about safe sex, who is she to tell us how ours should be taught?
173. Questions for spineless Democrats (reply to 167) - September 2, 2008 5:38 PM
In reply to #167:
1.) Where was Osama Bin Ladin when your retarded horn-dog pres was in office and our embassies in Africa were getting bombed, our servicemen were getting bombed in their barracks in Saudi Arabia and Yemen, and the WTC got bombed the FIRST time?
2.) Has the Federal government EVER babysat idiot homeowners expecting to flip their homes off of floating interest rate mortgages just by installing granite, track lighting & sub-zeros?
3.) Why do you think burned-out middle age loser teachers would be a better instructor on sex ed than a child's parents would?
4.) Ever heard of the KGB? Ever heard Putin had more than a summer internship there? They never covered that in TNR?
5.) Why should we trust Iran to have nuclear weapons, especially when they call on the eradication of ALL of us as the "greatest Satan"?
6.) Do you realize Germany has 0 nukes because, when they were necessary during the Cold War, it was US nukes stationed there? Have you HEARD of the Cold War?
7.) Why is Palin any worse than your own mother, who raised someone who can't handle the reality of the world?
And finally, from Obama's campaign page:
"Enact a Windfall Profits Tax to Provide a $1,000 Emergency Energy Rebate to American Families:Barack Obama will enact a windfall profits tax on excessive oil company profits..."
The question: is Obama planning on doing away with Congress? Because according to the Constitution, THEY'RE the ones who enact taxes. Maybe someone should tell him...
174. shellibelli - September 2, 2008 5:39 PM
Right Fury
dear For the last time I am not an Obama supporter. I am a dem, but I have never voted for him and he isnt the one I wanted in office.
I do think he is the lesser of 2 evils, but I am still not even sure if I will even vote at all this year - before peeps start calling me a PUMA - its not because Hillary didnt win.
I have yet to see what Obama can or will do if in office, all I have seen thus far is half of hollywood is behind him. and he sure seems nice but I dont want a nice family values type pres( either dem or rep) in office anyway. I want someone who will get shit done.
So yeah I am not liking the Mccain vp pick either.
I DO know I dont want the same fucking 8 years that we have had.
175. Lux - September 2, 2008 5:45 PM
yeah right fury, you're right. I totally agree with you honey. Amen.
176. McLoki - September 2, 2008 6:09 PM
We should make everyone get abortions unless they can get a license for a kid. You need a license to drive a car...why not one to have kids.
177. Dancer - September 2, 2008 6:15 PM
Is she seriously trying to look like her mom? What 17 yr old wears that kind of clothing.
Oh.. she is from Alaska... right.
178. Dan Quayle - September 2, 2008 6:30 PM
Hey #156. quake, and # 161 - Grace...... read #141.
179. friendlyfires - September 2, 2008 6:39 PM
Has anyone noticed that Sarah Palin is BIZARRO ELAINE from Seinfeld? Oh yeah, right, they never revealed the Bizarro Elaine character. Well, here she is folks!
180. Bo Babbyo - September 2, 2008 6:59 PM
So where are the naughty photos of the Gov? You know there have to be some, somewhere.
181. Lysander - September 2, 2008 7:27 PM
The bottom line is Bristol is off limits. She's getting married to the father. Leave it alone. I'm more interested in her feelings about Alaskan Sovereignty.
182. lloyd johnson - September 2, 2008 7:49 PM
Right wingers please stop insinuating all PRO-CHOICE people are for abortion. Every post that mentions abortion is by a pro-conservative moron. They automatically decide the opposing side wants to kill babies. Its like arguing with an idiot, when they see they're wrong, they keep changing the subject to an area that they have more fuel. Pro-choice means let the f'ing parents decide. Not you or me, them.
Its funny that the same people who condem minorities and their parents for making babies as teenagers are saying that its fine in this case. Republicans are looking as stupid and confused as the Dems were a few years ago. I wonder if this were Obama's daughter, would they say its a personal matter and "off limits"? I bet they'd have commercials by now.
This woman has presided over less people than most of you have in student government. Everyday when we are confronted with youths behaving badly we almost always attribute the behaviour to poor parenting. Why is this case different? Pretty, white, conservative women can do no wrong. Thats why.
McCain is nuts. He makes Bush look not-so-bad. If he can't manage his own property (7 houses) how in hell can he manage this entire country? Maybe if he wins he'll forget about NJ and I can skip paying taxes for a few years...
183. Linda - September 2, 2008 7:55 PM
"Palin" accepted nonmination knowing her daughter would make front page news about her pregnancy! What good mother would want that for her daughter! Hello---- and this could be our Vice Predisent!!
184. lloyd johnson - September 2, 2008 8:04 PM
Thank you 100 for being a man of integrity. Even though we may have different political views. I applaud you for standing up for what you believe in.
185. The Expedited Writer - September 2, 2008 8:23 PM
Fun-facts about Sarah Palin (for those of you who think she will be "fabulous")
Who is Sarah Palin? Here's some basic background:
* She was elected Alaska's governor a little over a year and a half ago. Her previous office was mayor of Wasilla, a small town outside Anchorage of 9000 people! She has no foreign policy experience.
* Palin is strongly anti-choice, opposing abortion even in the case of rape or incest.
* She supported right-wing extremist Pat Buchanan for president in 2000.
* Palin thinks creationism should be taught in public schools.
* She's doesn't think humans are the cause of climate change.
* She's solidly in line with John McCain's "Big Oil first" energy policy. She's pushed hard for more oil drilling and says renewables won't be ready for years. She also sued the Bush administration for listing polar bears as an endangered species—she was worried it would interfere with more oil drilling in Alaska.
* How closely did John McCain vet this choice? He met Sarah Palin once at a meeting. They spoke a second time, last Sunday, when he called her about being vice-president. Then he offered her the position.
186. shellibelli - September 2, 2008 8:24 PM
thank you thank you Lloyd Johnson
that was a point that I was trying to make,
any dems it seems are baby killers
that want to take everyones guns and their right
to own them as well.
and very good point Linda #183
187. larry grant - September 2, 2008 8:31 PM
Why is this news? SO FUCKING WHAT! You are letting the media and the dems (who are now scared shitless by this woman) distract from the real issues. They have to hatchet her daughter because they got NOTHING on her. I'm laughing with every story that they try to sell. It's ludicous.
Here's the scope of the massive dirt in the Palin past:
1. Her 17 yo daughter is pregnant
2. Her husband, 20 years ago and 2 years before they were married got a DUI
3. She may have had influence in the firing of a State Trooper.
???? ARE U SERIAL???
183 ? I don't even understand your argument. I think you're mental.
182 . They changed the name to "Pro CHoice" from "Pro Abortion" years ago because it sounded nicer. Go sell crazy somewhere else. ProChoice = Pro Abortion.
180. God I HOPE SO!
188. Bill - September 2, 2008 8:48 PM
hmm.
from MILF to GILF in less than a week. that was fast.
189. lloyd johnson - September 2, 2008 8:48 PM
larry grant. pro-choice means you are for people having the right to choose. It speaks nothing of your personal beliefs. I can be pro-life personally, and vote pro-choice. This is the United States of America, land of the free. Sounds like you already bought your crazy...
190. justjess - September 2, 2008 8:53 PM
There is always this mass hysteria around abortion - but let us just face facts. Abortion in the form of Roe vs. Wade exists because rich women have never had a problem with abortion - poor women did. Do making it kosher gives them the right to...
...
...
...
...wait for better circumstances - until they think they may be READY for a child.
In the words of George Carlin - "not every ejaculationndeserves a name". 25% of all pregnancies end in miscarriage - are all those women murderers?? People are ludicrious - and an unborn child is so - when he/she can live outside the womb - before then it is a fetus - and it should be a mother choice to decide if she can support it. Because there is nothing worst than having to take care of a child that you simply can't or don;t want to. If you don;t believe me - ask 80% of the prison population.
191. JJBUCK - September 2, 2008 9:07 PM
Amazing.... God for bid dems actually talk about the ISSUES. No, let's neglect those and talk about the CHILD of Palin. What relevance does this have to Palin or McCain. You talk as if having a child while your a teenage is the end of the world. God for BID! It's not like she was sent to rehab for drug abuse. (But go ahead and tell me how her husband got a DUI.... because I'm sure you'll "forget" the fact that your "amazing" Obama admitted to trying drugs) Go ahead dems.. keep bashing Sarah... she is STRONG and that scares you. I cannot WAIT for the debate! MCCAIN/PALIN :)
192. Obama Kool Ade Cocktail - September 2, 2008 9:09 PM
Expedited Writer: it appears you've expedited your thought process (and swallowed the DNC load whole):
- Better to have a VP learning how the Presidency is done than a PRESIDENT learning how a Presidency is done (that's what happened w/ BUSH, & that's how Obama will wing it & sing it)
- No foreign policy experience? Have you heard of the State Department? Cuz that's their thing, and they'll be the ones providing foreign policy support.
- Even the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change states preamble reservations about anthropogenetically induced climate change (i.e. by peeeeeople)
- Have you ever even read about the ANWR? Or is it all from "An Inconvenient Truth"?
Stick to Facebook and inbreed your thoughts there.
193. justjess - September 2, 2008 9:12 PM
Enjoy!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrXvDXVhqfU
194. missywissy - September 2, 2008 9:14 PM
She looks like she works for FOX News.
But honestly, out of anyone in the entire United States of America, and this is who he picks? I was suprised (was undecided, but this made my decision) and now know his judgement is absolutely impared.
What happened to the McCain that didn't do shit to please people in his party, but made his own decisions? Man, he is bending over backwards and taking it in every hole from his party. Not to disrespect the elderly, but this guy got ridiculous.
195. Teal - September 2, 2008 9:19 PM
JJBUCK notthat it really matters to me what they did 15 years ago but DUI is a danger to other people - that can kill innocent people. If someone say like COKE head Bush od'd well it would be just him that died and thats it.
But sorry dui is a bit more serious.
Personally I dont care if they had or havea vice back then or even now. AS long as it doesnt effect their leadership.
WHy do you need to defend Mzz Palin if she is so STRONG to begin with? She asked for it by stepping in and accept this nom so she is going to get it. No whining, people are going to scrutinize her strongly - does that make you scared?
196. Mel - September 2, 2008 9:23 PM
Where were all you left wing loons when Teddy bailed on the drowned chick in his car? Talk about classy? That really shows character!
197. lloyd johnson - September 2, 2008 9:27 PM
unborn
198. Teal - September 2, 2008 9:33 PM
was not born back then but
still to this day having read about " Teddy" and the "chick" I was shocked that he wasnt arrested but then most likely lack of proof.
and why he got a standing ovation the other night as someone mentioned.
199. E. Daly - September 2, 2008 9:51 PM
Palin's past actions is a cause for concerned. A person with a history of going against preservation of nature for the sake of the black gold is not a good candidate for any high-ranking government post. Her history, and the facts about her is evidently scary. Most pro-Republican and self-righteous hypocrites (I wouldn't put these two together but most are) would only see and hear what they want - even if it meant ignoring blatant facts pointed out by 185 (facebook or not).
Do you really want a VP and President who thinks creationism should be taught in school? Or a VP who sued the Bush administration for passing a bill to protect polar bears because it was hindering an oil drilling project in the antartica?? Ice caps and glaciers are melting, and so are the brains of these self-righteous hypocrites who would do anything so that their "team" gets voted in again. The world suffered enough under Bush TWICE because of idiots who voted for him, twice. Now these very same idiots are bashing the idea of a democrat taking office when historically US thrived at its best under a democrat.
Palin's daughter is pregnant. No it's not a big deal, teens get pregnant all the time, then there are talks that Palin's baby might be her grandchild. Details of the baby's birth is questionable. So, some of you are going to scream, " So what? She's a mother and I understand she wants to protect her own daughter and reputation...blablablablablabla" but think again. Do you want a VP who is not transparent - what does it say about the President who chose a VP like that?
Obama may have shot drugs up his veins when he was young and stupid. He even admitted it, to everyone. He is open about it and do not hide the fact that he is only human and has made past mistakes. Unlike his opposition candidates who has done nothing transparent so far but cover ups and media declarations to repair situation as shit hits the fan. And is now paying for it.
200. shellibelli - September 2, 2008 10:01 PM
#173 read it and weep you dog. Get your facts straight about the first terrorist WTC attack and Bill Clinton read on --
In August 1998, President Clinton ordered missile strikes against targets in Afghanistan in an effort to hit Osama bin Laden, who had been linked to the embassy bombings in Africa (and was later connected to the attack on the USS Cole). The missiles reportedly missed bin Laden by a few hours, and Clinton was widely criticized by many who claimed he had ordered the strikes primarily to draw attention away from the Monica Lewinsky scandal. As John F. Harris wrote in The Washington Post:
In August 1998, when [Clinton] ordered missile strikes in an effort to kill Osama bin Laden, there was widespread speculation — from such people as Sen. Arlen Specter (R-Pa.) — that he was acting precipitously to draw attention away from the Monica S. Lewinsky scandal, then at full boil. Some said he was mistaken for personalizing the terrorism struggle so much around bin Laden. And when he ordered the closing of Pennsylvania Avenue in front of the White House after domestic terrorism in Oklahoma City, some Republicans accused him of hysteria.
. . . the federal budget on anti-terror activities tripled during Clinton's watch, to about $6.7 billion. After the effort to kill bin Laden with missiles in August 1998 failed — he had apparently left a training camp in Afghanistan a few hours earlier — recent news reports have detailed numerous other instances, as late as December 2000, when Clinton was on the verge of unleashing the military again. In each case, the White House chose not to act because of uncertainty that intelligence was good enough to find bin Laden, and concern that a failed attack would only enhance his stature in the Arab world.
. . . people maintain Clinton should have adapted Bush's policy promising that regimes that harbor terrorism will be treated as severely as terrorists themselves, and threatening to evict the Taliban from power in Afghanistan unless leaders meet his demands to produce bin Laden and associates. But Clinton aides said such a policy — potentially involving a full-scale war in central Asia — was not plausible before politics the world over became transformed by one of history's most lethal acts of terrorism.
Clinton's former national security adviser, Samuel R. Berger . . . said there [was] little prospect . . . that Pakistan would have helped the United States wage war against bin Laden or the Taliban in 1998, even after such outrages as the bombing of U.S. embassies overseas.
201. To the dumb republican at #173 - September 2, 2008 10:31 PM
1) Why do you pathetic mentally impoverished queers always bring up Bill Clinton. I asked you where your war time president spent his time when he said he would not rest until he found ben Laden and six months later said he didn't really thing about him much you stupid lame jackass. Do you remember 911? Oh so I guess that was Clinton's fault as well?
2) And so I guess it was not a plan of the evil bankers that not only run this world but own it to come up with a drug-like scheme to entice citizens to take out all the credit they can and when they falter through them in financial thrall to the banks or lose everything they own and have their families in the street? Don't we have a GAO or any watchdogs that oversee crooked schemes? Don't forget the Bushes are in deep with not only the CIA and big OIL but the banks.
And so I guess you think it is fair that a person owing $20,000 in credit should spend the rest of their life paying several times that in interest? Do you?
3) I believe that sex education is important because teenagers have sex, even preacher's daughters and whoring republican governors daughters. Right? And they can contract VD and AIDS and get pregnant you dumbass shit talker.
4) You did not answer my question stupid. How can we afford to have more wars when we are in debt for the ones we have now. Well the poor are at least not you cool rich types. Yeah Putin was in the KGB and Bush senior was in the CIA remember dummy? Your point is...?
5) Iran has every right to nukes if we and Israel do. They have been there for thousands of years and frankly it is none of our motherfucking business what they do in their own country.
How does Israel get nukes and they don't?
6) As for the cold war. Are you aware that wall street funded Hitler and Rockefeller funded communism in Russia? Why did we allow Russia to have half of Germany and all those Slavic countries as industrial slaves?
Why doesn't Germany have any nukes considering they invented more or less rocketry and pioneered how many modern scientific methods and would have won both world wars if it had not have been for the USA stepping in.
7) .) "Why is Palin any worse than your own mother, who raised someone who can't handle the reality of the world?" I do not think you knew my mother so leave her out of this. I am aware of the reality of the world. Palin is a failure as a mother. Like most republican assholes (not regular reasoning republicans), she is a lying hypocrite. Her daughter is a little slut but what can we expect from a slightly better than average looking woman blessed with large breasts who thought so highly of herseld that she competed in a beauty contest. Real VP material there, eh?
Why didn't you anwer the last three question King Solomon (the guy with the personal whore house)???????
202. LC - September 2, 2008 10:47 PM
Republicans are all the same....ignorant, closed-minded hypocrites.
The debate is going to be awesome....Biden will wipe the floor with Palin!!!
203. devilsrain - September 2, 2008 10:58 PM
Ever notice that all democrats do is cry about stuff and dont want to do any research into anything? hey go and vote for Obama you asshole. The terrorists want him in office so go and support them.
btw you failed as a human congrats.
204. Kallie - September 2, 2008 11:02 PM
So when McCain dies 5 minutes after being elected, this is who he thinks should run the country? I don't think there is a better definition of inexperienced.
This choice makes McCain look more publicity desperate than a Hilton. I guess he needs it considering his campaign has been close to non-existent thus far.
I am a republican.
And I am definitely voting for Obama.
205. devilsrain - September 2, 2008 11:03 PM
5) Iran has every right to nukes if we and Israel do. They have been there for thousands of years and frankly it is none of our motherfucking business what they do in their own country.
How does Israel get nukes and they don't?
This might be the dumbest question I have ever heard anyone ask. Thats like saying why not give a lunatic a hand gun and let him loose in a shopping mall. Holy fuck. BTW Iran is a big supporter of obama. You must not be from this country, and if you are you should be kicked out immediately.
206. devilsrain - September 2, 2008 11:05 PM
204. Good for you. Nobody cares
207. DejaVu - September 2, 2008 11:31 PM
Tipper Gore wrote a book on raising kids with family values. Al Gore Jr was arrested last year on drug and drunk driving charges. He was in a car wreck right before the 1000 DNC. Al Sr never got any heat for that. But wait, Al Jr was driving a Prius.... he was being environmental like dear old dad.
208. hollywood_hillbilly - September 2, 2008 11:42 PM
@187 Hey Larry Craig, pro-choice means believing that individuals are free to make up their own minds on the subject of their lives.
As for your massive dirt scope...
1. Her 17 year old unwed daughter is pregnant, most likely for the second time, while Palin opposes any sexual education that isn't abstinence only. This makes her a hypocrite.
2. ??? Hadn't heard of that, unless she is sponsoring the death penalty for drunk drivers who cares.
3. She fired the state chief of public safety for refusing to fire a state trooper who is her ex-brother in law, this is not speculation, witnesses have made depositions stating as much. This trial will start a few weeks before the general election.
And for 173
1. Who trained and armed Al Qaeda?
2. The federal government is bailing out financial institutions who were trying to boost profits by taking risky loans, this goes back to the S&L bailout of the 80's (google keating five)
3. Teachers are losers! Yeah!!! Who needs education anyways! Not you! Fox and friends does all the "thinking" for you!
4. That is the point... tool.
5. What the hell does that have to do with putting radar and interceptors in Poland? There are many, many better and less contentious sites available to us.
6. Right... so why do we allow a country in a much more volatile region to have nukes? Then tell their neighbors they can't have them, then invade their other neighbors on a pretext? (Iraq, Afghanistan was justified imo).
7. My mother is better because she never pretended to something she wasn't.
You didn't answer a couple of them, guess Hannity has yet to tell you how to respond.
As for your Obama question; although W has set the precedent for ignoring congress I would bet Obama means in his budget, which is something the executive branch does.
Here is one for you. Why is someone who supports the secession of Alaska fit to lead the country?
209. Thomas - September 2, 2008 11:54 PM
Anyone that says this has nothing to do with politics is naive. Her daughter is living proof that the abstinence only sex education policy she vehemently backed in her state does not work as an effective method of family planning.
The only reason why the Palin family even disclosed the information of their daughters pregnancy in the first place was to dispel rumors of the same daughter mothering their 5th child.
Palin has taken attention away from the real problems that should be discussed during this election with her circus show of a family.
Don't try to tell me this has nothing to do with politics, because her knocked up teen aged daughter is a fine example of why her politics are WRONG.
210. Thomas - September 3, 2008 12:02 AM
Palin is a good example of how McCain would make poor decisions for the country if elected.
211. Median Meridian - September 3, 2008 12:06 AM
200: Try googling AP's story "Documents: US Strike Aided bin Laden-Taliban ties". Half-assed military action by vain ol' President Bill came to haunt us later. Obama's already stalled on his message...too afraid to propose anything new. He's a talker...nothing more.
212. Quono - September 3, 2008 12:09 AM
DAAAAAAMN, white people about to start rioting. Some folks here need to start hitting up their party's weed!
No wonder liberals want universal healthcare. They'll need it when they give themselves heart attacks just thinking about Fox News.
213. same old same old - September 3, 2008 12:20 AM
This is just stupid, I am sick of all these morons running around claiming they are prolife, prolife my ass more like pro misery, these fucking assholes don't give a damn about what happens to the "precious baby" once it is born. You asswipes are against abortion fine, each and everyone of you assholes should step forward and agree to be financially responsible for the product of every averted abortion through college, y'all run around bleating fucking shit about all life being sacred, try tell that to the kids that I have seen sodomised and brutalised and brought in dying or dead, as far as I am concerned there are a whole lot of people that should not be parents, pro choice means that dickheads choice, you fucking morons are living proof, that murphy's law is true, the population is increasing but the IQ is remaining constant, Y'all bastards mother's should have been pro-choice, then maybe they would have made the right one.
214. Emily - September 3, 2008 12:37 AM
OMIGOD IM SO SICK OF BUSH AND CHANEY AND CRONEY REPUGNICANTS SHES NOT EVEN A HUMAN BEING I BET SHE TORTURES POLER BEARS UR A MORON IF YOU VOTE FOR BUSH SHE PUTS TO SHAME EVERYTHING I LEARNED ABOUT WOMYNS RIGHTS I LEARNED AT WESLEYAN ALL SHE'LL DO IS GIVE US 8 MORE YEARS OF CORPORATIONS IN THE WHITE HOUSE WHILE FN UP THE CONSTITUTON I HOPE ALL HER KIDS DIE IN IRAQ
215. Unklejoe - September 3, 2008 12:53 AM
Gotdam! This chick is hot. I just got done jackingoff at some porn on the net and decided to check out the supe. Well sombioch if this fucking hot bitch named well who cares what her name is next time i jackoff this bitchs getting the load.
216. Unklejoe - September 3, 2008 1:01 AM
devilsrain is a cool name and THE DEVILS RAIN is a good movie
217. Narcissist - September 3, 2008 1:16 AM
I read that Ma Palin had her first child 8 MONTHS after marriage.
Premature, or Premarital/Anti-Christian activity?
218. mTvA - September 3, 2008 3:55 AM
Superfish: how exactly does this make Palin a hypocrite? She could have taught her daughter all the things in the world but it's still up to Bristol to make her choices. There are plenty of kids who were taught to use condoms who've ended up with herpes (or worse) Education ends at the classroom door after that it's all on you.
@#9
Using your logic then, what on earth makes you believe that in a rush of hormones they'll have a moment of clarity and remember to use a condom? If you hadn't noticed STD's are up and sexual education in schools is also up. I'm not saying it's a direct correllation but it also doesn't show that it has any appreciable effect in making kids wise about sex.
People fuck up like Bristol Palin did. I guess it's good to see so many Dems on this board have never fucked up and have the moral high ground to cast aspersions at her.
@#204
So you are worried about Palin's 'inexperience' in the event that McCain dies in office, but you have no problem with a guy who has served less than 2 years in the Senate and has been campaigning non-stop for over a year of those two years. Does his voting 'present' on 80% of the bills that cross his desk when he actually is there not bother you either? Obama's experience is 'nil'
If you vote Obama you are getting the epitome of inexperience right off the bat. Oh and you also get a VP who's official stance on Iran having nuclear weapons is 'meh, whatever there's not sense trying to stop it or discourage it'
219. Hey #205 - September 3, 2008 6:34 AM
You are aware that england france and USA have been fucking these people over since the age of oil began? No? I did not think so. Republicans usually are too ignorant to read. They usually get most of their (how would Dubya say it?) edumacation from Fox news and Rush Limpdick.
Again, why does Israel which is the main problem with the middle east get to have any nukes at all?
The difference between McCain and his whore and Obama is that Obama is brilliant while McCain graduated 890 out of 894 at naval acadamy, which is a disgrace. Of course Dubya is a dunce as well. So was Reagan. And Nixon was an outright criminal. And poppa Bush was high on drugs and puked on the Japanese prime minister?
Ha ha ha ha ha you people are worthless. Damn shame there are so many of you. Any poor person that votes republican is a pawn of the NWO.
It really won't be so amusing in the future when the lights go out and you have no food. It's coming down the pike and we can't do anything at all to stop it.
220. Treason - September 3, 2008 6:39 AM
Palin should face a firing squad for trying to secede from the Union, don't we all agree?
Of course we have war criminals that advocate TORTURE and SPYING on their own people dancing for their globalist masters bringing this country to ruin and debt.
221. ihavemorebraincellsthanyou - September 3, 2008 7:30 AM
whoever this photo is of, she looks like the "dirty secretary" my boyfriend tries to get me to dress up as. i bet her eyeglasses don't have a prescription in them....
222. Beastman AIDS - September 3, 2008 7:33 AM
I don't know what your all going on about but I'm pretty sure i wanna stick my nuts in her ass.
223. sunshinepants - September 3, 2008 7:51 AM
one thing, she called her daugter Bristol and didnt expect her to just a littel bit of a skank.Bristol famous for its wealth of sopiscation and charm..........um yeah
224. JB Stoner - September 3, 2008 9:15 AM
It does not matter if you vote blue or red, if you think that any of these power hungry, self absorbed assholes are there for you - you are dead wrong.
This government has outlived its life span by design and is headed strait for a socialist communist run state. Some idiots we vote for will just speed up the process out of stupidity and greed.
The debate should be about when we the people plan on taking our country back from the politicians and the trial lawyers who seem to have no clue of the differences of right, wrong and economics. Then we argue for who has the better ideas out of the pile of fucktards while being ass raped by the tax code.
This is not the same country that liberated Europe. The country that did consisted of people who actually got off their ass, made a difference and didn't wait on some idiot to dictate for them....
"If everyone is thinking alike, someone isn't thinking."
225. - September 3, 2008 9:59 AM
Obama is a nigger puppet that is worthless without a teleprompter.
Tonight we will see if Palin was a good strategic move but it was a liberal move...somehow I think she will do fine. The Hussenin Obama camp must be scrambling. I like how the puppet insisted to "leave the family alone", but now his muslim camp is working overtime to attack Palins family. Awww those silly little liberals...up to their shenanigans again.
226. - September 3, 2008 10:12 AM
I would really like to see Hussein Obama and Palin in a live debate. The nigger puppet would get his black ass handed to him. But that will never happen...Hussein Obama refuses to do a live debate. People are wondering if he's ready to lead the country, I suppose it behooves him to keep the trap shut as to not remove all doubt.
227. some people shouldn't speak - September 3, 2008 2:15 PM
#219-
"You are aware that england france and USA have been fucking these people over since the age of oil began? No? I did not think so. Republicans usually are too ignorant to read.
Again, why does Israel which is the main problem with the middle east get to have any nukes at all?"
ummmmmmm, really?
i have never heard the leader of israel call for the complete annihilation of another religion/nation.
228. Kate - September 3, 2008 3:43 PM
ignorent fucking repugnicans will vote for bush and cheney and his croneys again if they could so they vote for mccrap. fucking ideots would'nt have a single thought in their god loving brains if it were'nt for fox news and its fucking shit. obama wants to spend 500 billion on alternitive energy sources while mccrap wants to just give that money to bush. obama wants friends not enemeys but mccrap is totally happy with the world fucking hating us. i would fucking hate us to if we bombed my house. palin probably wants to send all poler bears to guantanamo bay to be fucking tortured so she can let big oil corperations fucking drill thru alaska whenever they want. their more of the same bush. maybe those ideots should go to fucking college before they actually vote for someone like mccrap. i hope they all get aids and die.
229. some people shouldn't speak or spell - September 3, 2008 4:10 PM
#219 and #228
well done
230. Stiles - September 3, 2008 5:38 PM
How come so many people are "pro-choice", yet slam the daughter's choice to keep the baby?
Guess the only right choice is getting a useless degree, marrying some meek lawyer, getting a condo in a gentrified neighborhood, and being able to afford a $350 stroller & organic fair trade onesies.
Hypocrites.
231. To the seething rabid moron at 201: - September 3, 2008 6:45 PM
1) Why do you, unable to control your emotions, think that you appear persuasive by throwing (pretty lame) insults at people who disagree with you. And considering your mental instability, it seems pretty justified to disagree with you. And Bill's mentioned because he FUCKED UP (see #211)...Al Qaeda's plots were organized on HIS watch... EIGHT long years. He boosted the CT budget? Typical libs...spending the money is only half-way. Should've sent troops there instead of to worthless Somalia & Haiti.
2) No, the GAO doesn't oversee crooked schemes. It reviews government for financial misuse and waste. Do your homework. Or do you expect the government to be your step-momma & do it for you? And I DO think credit practices need to be revamped (no lifelong indenture for $20k debt...too bad BIDEN takes big money from the credit companies, all based in Delaware).
3) Nothing really to clear up there, you rambling dumbass shit talker. Take a Xanax.
4) Obama's master plan (according to his website...didja read it? Or you depend on your e-circle jerk for all your ideas) puts the country into worse debt than any war current or future.
5) Half agree. Except Iran's government has long used civilian hostage-taking as an official method. Imagine what they'll do with nukes (if your brain's not too foamy).
6) You're rambling / ranting. All over the place. Not a single cohesive line of thought there.
7) No one knows anything about Palin as a mother, so let's be evenhanded and bring your mother back INTO this. She's a little slut but what can we expect from a slightly better than average looking woman blessed with large breasts who thought so highly of herself that she competed in a 4H.
And left out the other 3 because, unlike you, I try not to ramble.
232. Dubya let 911 happen (Cheney knew) to traitor at 231 - September 3, 2008 8:19 PM
911 happened on REPUBLICAN WATCH asshole. You people are incompetent criminals and like all crooked sorts blame your filth on others and you godamn right I am emotional my country is going down the tubes
AND I AM FIGHTING MAD so if you wanna meet me somewhere let me know, pussy. I guess you little republican bitches think the rest of us don't have balls aint that right bitch?
You little buddy are one of millions of little pawns on a giant chessboard and you sure aren't going anywhere forward. Yeah you are a punk.
Dumbass :
General Accounting Office. The arm of Congress that investigates the performance of the federal government. GAO evaluates the use of public funds and the performance of federal programs, while also providing analytical, investigative and legal services in order to support to Congress in its policy formulation and decision making processes. Most GAO reports are initiated at the request of Congress, while some are initiated by the agency itself or are required by law.
GAO Says Bush Administration Violated Law on SCHIP Program
by Mike Hall, Apr 21, 2008
This may come as a news flash to the White House, but even the Bush administration has to obey the law. A government watchdog agency says the administration violated federal law last August when it blocked states from covering more uninsured children under the State Children’s Health Insurance Program (SCHIP).
The Government Accountability Office (GAO) released a ruling Friday that found the administration’s unilateral implementation of new rules to prevent states from expanding SCHIP to cover more of the nation’s 9 million uninsured children violated the Congressional Review Act. The act requires that significant changes to programs and policies be subject to a public comment period or congressional approval.
But the Bush administration’s changes to SCHIP came in the form of a letter Aug. 17 from the federal Center for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS) to state officials who administer the law. The Bush directive told the states they would not be allowed to go ahead with their plans to expand health insurance coverage to more low- and moderate-income families.
Several states already had set in motion plans to cover more children, and others were considering expansion.
Sens. Jay Rockefeller (D-W.Va.) and Olympia Snowe (R-Maine) requested the GAO report. Rockefeller says the administration’s move to deny states the right to provide health coverage to more children was
…a bold-faced attempt to subvert the law and prevent states from implementing their plans to provide health insurance coverage to millions of uninsured children nationwide. CMS now has a critical choice to make: Rescind the rule or continue to spend taxpayer money defending a growing list of lawsuits it is unlikely to win.
California, New York, New Jersey and several other states have filed lawsuits to overturn the directive. Although Rockefeller and Snowe urged the administration rescind the directive, the CMS says it has no plans to do so and “considers the 8/17 letter still in effect.”
The letter also came during the heat of the battle between Congress and the Bush administration over legislation to renew SCHIP and cover more children. Bush was threatening to veto the bill. But as Rockefeller points out, when it became clear the renewal and expansion would pass with overwhelming bipartisan support, the administration moved to “suppress states’ efforts to cover additional low-income children.”
After blocking the state efforts to provide more children with coverage, Bush turned his attention to Congress and twice vetoed SCHIP renewal, first in October and again in December after lawmakers modified the bill to meet some of his demands.
Following the December veto, Congress passed a temporary extension of SCHIP to continue coverage of the 6 million children currently enrolled, but leaving without health insurance the almost 4 million kids who would have been added under the bill.
3) Nothing to clear up about sex ed. and children huh Muslim fuck? How is this shit talk. Ahhh cuz you can't think of anything to say right? Yeah Republicans don't even care about their own children. Damn don't we need a civil war against you perverts.
4) Hey dumbfuck, Obama wants to end the wars which will like you know stop us from going deeper in debt. Idiot.
5) Iran has used hostage taking and we have used the CIA to infiltrate, murder, and overthrow nations, you evil ignorant loser.
6)) As for the cold war. Are you aware that wall street funded Hitler and Rockefeller funded communism in Russia? Why did we allow Russia to have half of Germany and all those Slavic countries as industrial slaves?
Why doesn't Germany have any nukes considering they invented more or less rocketry and pioneered how many modern scientific methods and would have won both world wars if it had not have been for the USA stepping in.
I guess your inability to aswer this one defines just how shallow you knowledge of history is. Which is why assholes like you should just shut your festering little mouth. You really should read more and remain silent until you are capable of formulating something intelligent to say. Poor little moron.
7) You statement there validates me and disqualifies you as an intelligent person. You are talking about the potential VP here not one of your nasty girlfriends. Palin is a failure and a hypocrite and is treasonous like most of you right wing nut jobs.\\
Ignorant with a mindless attitude is not way to go through life. You should just go out to a nice gay bar like a good republican and find a sticky queen and settle your skinny ass down girl.
Oh and please comment on 8,9 and 10.
I can't wait to hear from you again.
233. patrickridyard@yahoo.com - September 3, 2008 8:59 PM
omg.o.k. john mc.cain you are not the father!!!!!!!!
234. sharp as a bowling ball - September 3, 2008 9:01 PM
#232
did you grow up in a home where "might makes right?"
do you think if you belittle (feeble attempt) a person enough, they will give in and listen to you and just accept your views?
perhaps you should use the 'liar, liar, pants on fire' offensive next.
235. msu114 - September 4, 2008 4:01 PM
I just have one question for everyone on this board - how many of you were abstinent until the day you were married? Or if you have children, how can you say for sure that they are abstinent? Let's see who the hypocrites are now. I find it really sad that you people are so quick to throw judgment at this family. What would we find if we started digging into your family history? I seriously doubt you, or anyone else in your family, are perfect, so why don't you all just grow up and stop being so damn judgmental?
236. belicoso - September 4, 2008 4:56 PM
That girl is set! By the time this baby is due she'll be able to sell the first pictures to a gossip mag for a handsome sum...never have to worry about student loans or the down payment on her first house or anything. And if her mom were to become VP when that happens.....she might never have to work again. That kind baby profitability is what Larry Birkhead strives for everyday and it just fell into this girl's lap.
237. TomatoHead - September 4, 2008 5:55 PM
235: Now, I don't have children and I'm 22. My mother raised me and my two sisters alone, without a father and none of us have children. None of us want children right now because we know it would be incredibly stupid. We were not raised "abstinence only".
I am not abstinent and I have had zero abortions. I am seriously judgemental of anyone who purports to have better knowledge than me about what works in certain instances. This woman is trying to tell us that abstinence only edcuation works and it clearly doesn't, as seen with her own daughter. It is extremely hypocritical of her then to say that it works and to suggest that it'll work for everyone. Do you see the logic?
Most people are just being assholes, but it makes no sense to preach that abstinence only sex education is the best/only way to go when your own daughter CLEARLY doesn't follow that advice.
238. jameberlin - September 4, 2008 6:14 PM
#237: I'm 22 and i do have a child. I was raised with comprehensive sex ed, and never taught abstinence until i started going to church on my own as a teen (after i knew all the "other stuff"). My sisters were both taught comprehensive sex ed in liberal public schools and both had abortions. Both of them had their first children out of wed lock. I was NOT abstinent, and also had my first out of wedlock.
I also know plenty of religious young women who were taught abstinence only, never had sex before marriage and are now happily married and either have planned their born children, or are expecting their planned children.
The fact is, abstinence does work for some people, and doesn't work for others. Comprehensive sex ed is the same way.
Every one is different regarding sex... and if we're in fear of a politician forcing any one particular view down our throats at public school, then i suggest parents start taking matters into their own hands and teach their own children about sex, instead of relying on some careless school administration to do their job for them.
239. MICHELLE - September 4, 2008 8:36 PM
Thats Sabine Ehrenfeld
240. barackstar - September 5, 2008 2:10 PM
Sarah Palin is not a hypocritical because her daughter is having the baby. Sarah Palin is hypocritical because she promotes abstinance only education in schools. She is in the opinion that it is the parents job to instill morals and values into children and not some "government run" school. Well, newsflash "princess palin": YOU, who are supposedly a good mother with great morals and resources, could not even instill these values into your own children! How can you make the vast assumption that other parents in much worse situations will be able to?? You can't put every parent up to achieve this moral platform if you can't even it. This should basically be clear and convincing evidence that parents can't always control their children. Don't get this wrong and think this is criticizing the fact that your child is pregnant. It's just pointing out that children make decisions not based on ANYTHING their parents have tried to instill in them. If children have more resources (e.g., sex education that educates them about the dangers of sex and proper methods of birth control), they may be able to make smarter choices on their own. Because the fact of the matter is, children are making these choices on their own, no matter what the parents preach.
Oh, and I hate to write this....but, um, Cindy "Vicodin Daze" McCain....are you going to adopt /care/raise/educate/pay for all those newborn unwanted children from mothers who couldn't afford abortions but didn't want to run the risk of an back-ally abortion or is Sarah "Princess" Palin??? Clearly every "fertilized egg" that is nowhere near an actual child deserves a life. Even if it is parentless and homeless.
241. docadvan - September 16, 2008 7:14 PM
All I can say is she has this country's attention! Like her or not everyone suddenly knows her name! Kinda like Obama, comes out of nowhere and is all over the television networks and the internet. The biggest difference is the networks love Obama and they are trying to destroy Palin.
242. ALİ İHSAN ESKİBAĞ - August 23, 2009 4:02 AM
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244. ALİ İHSAN ESKİBAĞ - August 23, 2009 4:03 AM
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