November 20, 2006
Michael Richards is a racist clown
Michael Richards - Kramer from Seinfeld - completely lost it at the Laugh Factory in West Hollywood Friday night, spewing racial epithets after being playfully heckled by a black guy and his friends. You can watch the video here, although it's a pretty sad sight and I wouldn't recommend it if you're easily offended.
The camera started rolling just as Richards began his attack, screaming at one of the men, "Fifty years ago we'd have you upside down with a fucking fork up your ass." Richards continued, "You can talk, you can talk, you're brave now motherfucker. Throw his ass out. He's a nigger! He's a nigger! He's a nigger! A nigger, look, there's a nigger!" The crowd is visibly and audibly confused and upset. Richards responds by saying, "They're going to arrest me for calling a black man a nigger."
At the end he just walks off the stage defeated, secure in the knowledge he may be the saddest human being on the planet. The only way it could've been any more pathetic is if he slipped on a banana peel on his way off and his wallet fell out to reveal it empty of cash and filled with Arby's coupons.
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Comments
1. Posted by danielle on November 20, 2006 12:56 PM
what a pathetic dumbass. i liked his character on that show....now i hate him :(
2. Posted by Angry Ferret Jones on November 20, 2006 12:56 PM
MARSHMALLOW IS A USELESS CUNT!
3. Posted by HolisticWisdomcom on November 20, 2006 12:59 PM
That is really sad to hear that, I thought him rather funny.
Honestly, I hate the word even when it is used between black people. I hate it for the same reason I do when women call one another bitches and ho's.
I think people need to expand their vocabulary and be a little nicer in the world. We could all use a little love.
http://www.holisticwisdom.com
4. Posted by PrettyBaby on November 20, 2006 12:59 PM
Yes, both danielle and the Ferret are correct. (That was an odd sentence !?@)
Shit, this guy is pathetic. Watch seinfeld run for the hills now when asked to defend him.
5. Posted by James on November 20, 2006 1:02 PM
Racist clown? Try using a less dumbassed term in the future. The headline should read " Michael Richards should learn self control" He got harassed on stage by idiots and they got what was coming to them.
6. Posted by Malphesto on November 20, 2006 1:02 PM
that doesnt suprise me he seemed racist
7. Posted by RichPort on November 20, 2006 1:07 PM
And now we just need to hear from justme and JustinIgger and the trifecta will be complete! If you held out just a little longer Mr. Fish, you could have run this story tomorrow!!!!
#2 - That's poetry...
8. Posted by Spindoc on November 20, 2006 1:09 PM
Hmm, It's amazing how racist comedy can be. Although he didn't seem any more racist than half the acts on Def Comedy Jam.
9. Posted by jrzmommy on November 20, 2006 1:09 PM
Jeez. Imagine if it was a Jew?
10. Posted by Wonked on November 20, 2006 1:11 PM
Ah the insidious underbelly of free speech...
A suggestion, and to #3's point, perhaps the word should be retired from the language, at least in the vernacular. When you hear it used almost, dare I say, affectionately (which I do almost daily in the virtually cracker-free Atlanta area), it's hard to see what all the fuss is about when it's done by a comedian paid to offend.
Not justifying his classless action, but we have more important people to villify. Like this guy:
http://www.wonked.net/2006/11/10/272/
11. Posted by Spindoc on November 20, 2006 1:12 PM
Oh, one other thing.
He must be a shitty comedien because what person who does stand up comedy can't handle a heckler? i've been in clubs and seen c-list stand up's hand a hecklers ass back to them. If Michael Richards can't even do that what the fuck is he doing trying to do stand up?
12. Posted by enfilade on November 20, 2006 1:13 PM
Damn, being on one of the best shows ever to this, that's a pretty far fall from grace.
http://www.scandalsnappers.com/
13. Posted by danielle on November 20, 2006 1:14 PM
#8. That's so true! They don't even realize that they're only degrading themselves more and more.
14. Posted by RichPort on November 20, 2006 1:16 PM
We must have missed the part when he screamed SUGERTITS at them...
15. Posted by Missallanpoe on November 20, 2006 1:23 PM
Wow...I always thought he was a cool guy. Jesus tap dancing christ, man...
16. Posted by Don Boogie on November 20, 2006 1:27 PM
KKKramer
17. Posted by Angry Ferret Jones on November 20, 2006 1:31 PM
In all fairness, having watched the clip I'd have to say the guy in the audience, was, in fact, acting like a nigger.
AFJLTC
18. Posted by Adult Underoos on November 20, 2006 1:32 PM
is the superfish somehow implying that racist people love arbys?!
nice people like my underwear --> http://funderpants.com
19. Posted by PAULA NEAL MOONEY on November 20, 2006 1:32 PM
Man, oh, man...the way Kramer went off on those black guys. The viciousness of his comments is what's sticking with me. I mean, a fork...where? Oh my Lord! But we've all said stupid stuff while drunk (was he? I hope to God he was...at least he could blame his tirade partially on that. And what did the black guys say to start this whole thing? Anyway, I'm ready to forgive Kramer once he sincerely apologizes on camera. Besides, not all these commenters were even born back when I was enjoying watching Michael Richards on the comedy show called Fridays, racing around the dirt with his toy trucks like an 8-year-old. Be forgiven, Michael, be healed of whatever is causing this hatred, and be blessed in Jesus' holy Name.
20. Posted by KimberWolf on November 20, 2006 1:35 PM
Sorry, doubt it. I don't think he could come back from this.
I'm a little too young to remember Friday's, but I've seen clips as it being the "other thing he did" besides Seinfeld.
I'm convinced this will be the nail in the coffin of an already dead career.
21. Posted by danielle on November 20, 2006 1:40 PM
Nice blue writing. How do you do that?
22. Posted by Ryan Smith on November 20, 2006 1:42 PM
Its fuckin hilarious what one of the guys says to him. He says that guy hasn't done shit since Seinfeld and never will, he owned him.
23. Posted by theendofsquid on November 20, 2006 1:44 PM
malcom x, martin luther king jr., medgar evers, and countless others died so that black men could make asses of themselves interrupting and heckling comedians. really, if you act like one, people are going to call you one...
24. Posted by kitty_kat on November 20, 2006 1:45 PM
#5- Are you serious? Please tell me you're joking. Because if that wasn't a joke, you are a racist idiot.
25. Posted by DrBob2607 on November 20, 2006 1:46 PM
Ooooohhh! Smell that, kids? It's Mikey's career going down in smoke and flames. Hope he's getting residuals from Sienfeld, cause he's not going to make it as a standup comic..
26. Posted by PrettyBaby on November 20, 2006 1:46 PM
I see that I need to put on my Blue Blockers.
27. Posted by PrettyBaby on November 20, 2006 1:48 PM
#24 Alas, there are lots of folks like that on these posts.
p.s. I love your screen name.....Meow!
28. Posted by normella on November 20, 2006 1:48 PM
I've read comments from other sites and it sickens me that people are actually defending this moron.
Not that I'm surprised, really, but I'm not sure how heckling is a pass to yell out racist shit to someone. So the guys were rude, right? They were a couple of pricks who were heckling a comedian. Big fucking deal. How does that somehow connect to making a comment about lynching and saying "nigger" ten times? I don't get how race or ethnicity had anything to do with them heckling him, seriously.
And who gives a fuck if he was drunk? How does that excuse him? I sure as fuck don't start calling black people "niggers" when I'm drunk and pissed off.
Sorry, this is just ridiculous. ::implodes::
29. Posted by eXtasyStef on November 20, 2006 1:48 PM
#11
Exactly. Anyone whose worked their way up through the dregs of comedy clubs or been in a band knows how to handle two things: hecklers and flying beer bottles.
He and Mel Gibson should hang out.
#20 He was also in UHF--the Weird Al movie. He played a doofy janitor. I think that was before Seinfeld, though.
30. Posted by PrettyBaby on November 20, 2006 1:51 PM
I prefer Mel Gibson to Kramer way more as far as bigots go.
31. Posted by kitty_kat on November 20, 2006 1:51 PM
#23- Soooo... does that mean that you can spit racial slurs at a white person when they heckle someone? Does that mean that whenever someone is bothering you or saying things to you that you don't like it is okay to spew racial slurs at them. Racial slurs are NEVER justified. Period.
32. Posted by SumLikeitHoTT on November 20, 2006 1:52 PM
#28 I agree no matter how drunk you are or how pissed off you get there are just some words that should never be used.
I'm disturbed that just because hes a "comedian", and they were heckling him he can get away with it. When people are rude you don't them "niggers" because they are black. and Lets not forget he just said they would basically have been lynched 50 years ago...oh yeah this guy is a real winner...
33. Posted by normella on November 20, 2006 1:53 PM
#31: No, no, I think what #23 meant was that only BLACK people heckle and, therefore, they got what was coming...because, you know, when a black person heckles a comedian, they deserve to be called a "nigger."
Right.
34. Posted by Ruby on November 20, 2006 1:53 PM
THAT'S BLUE WRITING!! THAT'S GODDAMNED BLUE WRITING! STICK A FORK IN IT AND CALL MY CAREER DONE BUT I THINK THAT IS FUCKING BLUE WRITING!!
35. Posted by danielle on November 20, 2006 1:54 PM
Go Kitty!
Yeah, i prefer Mel as well.
36. Posted by normella on November 20, 2006 1:54 PM
It's weird how I'm not black and I was really offended by this. LOL
37. Posted by ZoomBoy on November 20, 2006 1:55 PM
SERENITY NOW!!!
38. Posted by aerophyte on November 20, 2006 1:55 PM
So, let me get this straight. NONE of you have ever called sworn at ANY other demographic?
Michael Richards may need to pick his battles based on the fact that he's attempting to insult a culture that is it's own worst enemy.
His improve skills may need a little work if all he has to comment on is the color of someones skin maybe?
39. Posted by NipsyHustle on November 20, 2006 1:55 PM
somewhere mel gibson is clapping like a school girl at a timberlake show. this is WAY more over the top than gibson. this asshat had the nerve to refer to lynching people.
he is the saddest comedian known to man. but at the same time, i'm glad he's shown his true colors. i would never spend a dime on enhancing his career. he obviously has no talent.
and considering how dark he is and how nappy his hair is, he might want to be quiet before his background is investigated and we find out buckwheat was banging his mom.
40. Posted by LoneWolf on November 20, 2006 1:56 PM
What's up with those Seinfeld alumni (other than Jerry)? I thought they were each pulling in a million per during the last couple of seasons. They must have either pissed it away or really have a need to be in the spotlight. Every one of them failed in their own shows, and (other than Julia Louis-Dreyfus) they're all still out there pitching and failing.
If I ever had a golden goose like they had I'd have milked it dry while socking away every shekle I ever got paid, and then retired to an island with no U.S. tax obligations. Maybe take a second or third lead in a movie every and then to pay the maintenance fees on my off-shore bank account.
As for Kramer, sounds like he was bombing, lost it, and tried to go the shock comedy route and, (unlike Gilbert Gottfried and The Aristocrats joke at the Hugh Hefner roast), he flopped. BFD - seeing Britney out and about is more offensive.
41. Posted by danielle on November 20, 2006 1:58 PM
#33. Your a dumbass.
Right.
BLACK WHITE GREEN BLUE...all just colors, which one are you? hmmmmmmm.
42. Posted by mgbrown66 on November 20, 2006 1:58 PM
I wonder if this will hurt the sales of the Seinfeld DVD's that have yet to be released (season 7,8,9.)
43. Posted by danielle on November 20, 2006 1:59 PM
(you're) whoops :)
44. Posted by Binky on November 20, 2006 1:59 PM
Now we know how 'Newman' felt.
And he forgot to say, " Good night folks ! Drive safe. I'm here all week." Unprofessional all around.
45. Posted by normella on November 20, 2006 1:59 PM
I don't respond to people who don't know the difference between a word signifying possession and a contraction.
46. Posted by normella on November 20, 2006 2:00 PM
you corrected yourself too late, bastard. :D
47. Posted by BarbadoSlim on November 20, 2006 2:00 PM
The man was on UHF and Kramer was well, Kramer. It is truly sad to see this, hecklers are pieces of shit anywhere (doesn't matter their race) however, Michael lost his shit up there.
truly sad
48. Posted by mytwocents on November 20, 2006 2:01 PM
I wonder how long until he enters 'rehab'... though he could just go here: http://www.thespinzone.com/tuopoc_cert.php
and be back to performing next week
49. Posted by normella on November 20, 2006 2:02 PM
#48 - he performed the very next night at the Laugh Factory. :(
50. Posted by pixel killya on November 20, 2006 2:03 PM
Man, Richards comes off as really frustrated and defeated there. With royalties pouring in, he sure doesn't need the money, wonder why he is putting himself through shit like that. That was a lose/lose proposition for everyone there.
51. Posted by Hastaj00 on November 20, 2006 2:05 PM
Just find it convenient that they start the clip when he's beginning to rage and spew things, not letting us in on exactly to what degree they were heckling him...
Maybe he was on something, maybe he's manic, whatever... If they were being idiots though, screw them; I have no sympathy.
This isn't a class act, but I can forgive the guy. To say none of us have had hateful thoughts towards other races would be a lie anyway for all of us, right? Just because we have the ability to control ourselves...
I just don't think it's fair to dismiss the guy entirely because of this act, as some racist loon or what have you. If it would have been a bunch of trashy white guys he railed on with similar (but non-race related) terms, we wouldn't even have seen this.
And no, I don't have a poster of Hitler in my bedroom.
52. Posted by saffron714 on November 20, 2006 2:05 PM
#38 - yes I am sure we all have cursed out a person of a different race. The point is we most likely used a term like bitch, dickhead, asshole, etc. which are all race friendly.
53. Posted by danielle on November 20, 2006 2:07 PM
#46. (no need 4 the name calling hun.) simple mistake. i thought you were calling people names but you were simply translating what a dumbass posted on the thread. don't get your panties in a bunch :)
54. Posted by Angry Ferret Jones on November 20, 2006 2:07 PM
SWEET!!
I am being Double-Trolled! Does that count as a Menage-a-trois? (Or would it be menage-a-troll?)
55. Posted by PrettyBaby on November 20, 2006 2:08 PM
He probably hates black men for the usual reason -- Here it is---
Your woman fucked a black man with a juicy gigantic cock and screamed all night long and could barely walk the next day. With you she just laid there, eyes shut saying "Will you hurry up and Come?!!"
56. Posted by ImaCracka on November 20, 2006 2:08 PM
I dunno... mixed views on my part.... is he a sad human being .. yes.. Did he go to far... yes.... needs help? yes......
But Richard Pryor, martin and the rest are living in big houses for using the word whitey, cracka, honkey and hundreds of others.....
Why when a white guy uses the N word is is SOOOOOO wrong.... sure it wasnt right but when is Honkey going to be known as the H word?
I dunno.. Career over? Nah..... Did he make an ass out of himself... sure did.....
Hey one thing he has going for him..... wasnt filmed fucking Lindsey or Paris..... he cant be that much of a loser......
57. Posted by mikeski on November 20, 2006 2:09 PM
What I don't get is the upside-down-with-a-fork remark. Didn't he mean to say "swinging from a tree limb"?
I mean, at least get your racist violence right the first time. Everybody knows that upside down with a fork in the ass is for the Latvians. And ONLY the Latvians. Crimony.
58. Posted by sexybitch on November 20, 2006 2:10 PM
I blame Borat.
59. Posted by laikiska on November 20, 2006 2:10 PM
#24: don't worry about James... he is just a racist dickhead who has no education and needs to vent. Ignore him.
60. Posted by normella on November 20, 2006 2:11 PM
Danielle - I use the word "bastard" as a form of endearment.
Seriously.
And, just so you know, I don't wear any panties, so ha! :D
61. Posted by danielle on November 20, 2006 2:12 PM
(gotcha) :)
62. Posted by NipsyHustle on November 20, 2006 2:15 PM
Re: ImaCracka----
it's one thing to call someone a name. everybody does it or has done it at some time. it's another thing all together to refer to LYNCHING a person. the difference? one is an insult the other is a loosely veiled threat of violence.
the focus shouldn't be on "name calling". it's one thing to say " you're a greedy jew" it's another to say jews make the best kindling. see the difference?
63. Posted by PrettyBaby on November 20, 2006 2:16 PM
danielle + normella= BFF
Hey Holistic Wisdom, your love is spreading thru the Fish, it seems.
64. Posted by normella on November 20, 2006 2:17 PM
Hey, shut your trap. I'm in a loving mood today.
65. Posted by KimberWolf on November 20, 2006 2:20 PM
I saw a Dave Chapelle show here in CA. People were randomly yelling "I'm Rick James, Bitch!" He couldn't take it. It was only about 7 people in an auditorium of 2,500. He cussed them out and walked off stage. I agreed that those people were assholes, but he needed to handle it better for the rest of us that paid $50 a seat.
Of course, that was before he burned his last brain cells out and disappeared.
66. Posted by PrettyBaby on November 20, 2006 2:21 PM
Shut my trap? careful Darlin
67. Posted by normella on November 20, 2006 2:23 PM
Don't mind me. I speak in paradox.
68. Posted by LL on November 20, 2006 2:24 PM
Am I the only human in America who never thought Kramer was that funny? I didn't hate him, just didn't think he was the shit. And clearly, he hasn't gotten any better.
RE hecklers: I never saw the point of heckling and I think people who do it are stupid, but there's a way to handle a heckler and a way NOT to. I think we all know the way NOT to now, thanks to Used-to-Be Kramer. No matter what the black guys said, not sure how it could be worse than how he responded. Why didn't he just talk about raping their mamas and selling off their children to other slaveowners while he was it? WTF, he had nothing to lose at that point. Hell, he might get a lot of southern comedy club appearances out of it. He might be the keynote speaker at the next big Klan shindig.
I don't get the fork reference, either, and I'm from cracker-ass Oklahoma. We don't fork our black people down here. Maybe it's a yankee thing.
69. Posted by PrettyBaby on November 20, 2006 2:25 PM
#67 I see.....
70. Posted by mytwocents on November 20, 2006 2:28 PM
#49 - Well that's because his publicist was outta town and hadn't heard about it yet ;)
71. Posted by normella on November 20, 2006 2:30 PM
#70: good theory! I bet he thinks Richards is a jackass now, too.
72. Posted by 86 on November 20, 2006 2:33 PM
Cant watch. I'm scared.
73. Posted by lohans8ball on November 20, 2006 2:38 PM
Jeez I gotta admit that was downright scary..he seemed like a demon possessed then used calm words to educate the audience then explodes again.. damn.
I giggled in horror..
74. Posted by FutremanWalken on November 20, 2006 2:47 PM
So what. Those in attendance have no right to verbally interrupt performers. Richards obviously just lost it. It does not mean he is a racist. He just found a way to offend someone that was interrupting his work. You can so all sorts of things to offend people. You may call a woman a slut or a cum bucket, that does not mean you entirely hate women, it just means you know how to hurt someone. So get over it.
75. Posted by mytwocents on November 20, 2006 2:48 PM
#71, I mean if it were Paris Hilton, Elliot her publicist has absolutely no life so he's available at 3am in the morning but that's because she's a train wreck who needs constant damage control...
http://www.thespinzone.com
76. Posted by Jerk616 on November 20, 2006 2:51 PM
This was really surprising to hear especially since Seinfeld featured black people so prominently during its run.
77. Posted by James on November 20, 2006 2:56 PM
24 and you call me a racist when I didn't say one racial slur. You are a fucking moron. Just another stupid whore.
78. Posted by combustion8 on November 20, 2006 2:59 PM
he only said what everyone thinks.. or what I think anyway.
79. Posted by CelebSlam.com on November 20, 2006 2:59 PM
C'MON. It's COSMO KRAMER. HE WAS KIDDING
http://www.celebslam.com
80. Posted by Jim Treacher on November 20, 2006 3:00 PM
Kramer vs. Karma!
81. Posted by jbeezy666 on November 20, 2006 3:01 PM
this was a rather bizarre outburst. it is sheer idiocy and/or intoxication to say things like that (a) in public, (b) to a large crowd all watching you, and (c) while being videotaped. if he was going for an edgy joke, he seemed to have forgotten the punchline. if not, well, i guess the beloved actor who played "Kramer", one of the most popular characters in TV history, is racist. while racism is just patently stupid, i really don't think this will hurt DVD sales, as per #42. Walt Disney was a card-carrying Nazi who funnelled money to the Third Reich during WWII, and people keep going to disneyland...
82. Posted by simon134 on November 20, 2006 3:02 PM
I'm black and I think it's sad and pathetic when people let a stupid weird cause SO much damage!
It is extremely silly!
While it might be offensive, the fact that it makes front page news when a white person calls a black person a nigger is just utterly absurd to me. Why when I see other blacks call whites "Honkey, Cracker, or White Bread" does it go completely unnoticed? Why the double standard?
If my poor fellow blacks AND whites for that matter let silly little words hold them back or upset them, then we will all never truely be equal.
A long time ago as a teen, I finally came to grips with all the stupid name calling and likened someone calling me a nigger to calling me a butthead. It is honestly just immature and sophmorish! That's it! Nothing else!
It's a word people! Take offense, but don't let it have any power! Seriously!
83. Posted by FutremanWalken on November 20, 2006 3:02 PM
Maybe the NAACP should come out and make a statement, you know the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People. Not the advancement of people, just colored people. That’s not racist at all. Get over yourselves. The guy wanted to offend someone that was messing up his art, his carrer, his night.
84. Posted by Kristin on November 20, 2006 3:06 PM
Wow. How sad.
85. Posted by simon134 on November 20, 2006 3:08 PM
P.S. A white Washington DC city official had to resign because he used the word "niggardly", which means miserly, when talking to fellow black city officials about fiscal matters!
Are you fucking kidding me?
Now those were some dumb Niggers!
86. Posted by arieschic on November 20, 2006 3:08 PM
What he was saying was not just an insult on the hecklers, but to the black race as a whole. And there are many more ways to deal with hecklers then to insult a entire race of people.
87. Posted by FutremanWalken on November 20, 2006 3:11 PM
86. There are several ways to offend people. If an entire race is offended by that, then they have a problem. Richards had one target, the heckler, if any one else gets caught in the cross fire, thats their problem.
88. Posted by shankyouverymuch on November 20, 2006 3:15 PM
Peace Out Nigga's
89. Posted by shankyouverymuch on November 20, 2006 3:16 PM
Didn’t see what took place before the taping began... (HOW CONVENIENT)... MAYBE the niggers in the balcony were calling him white-racist names? ... Don't really care anyway... he DIDN'T make 1 untrue statement... If a darky got uppity 50 years ago, he most probably would have gotten hung!!! that's just a true fact... Thank goodness that doesn't happen anymore !?!?! ... anyway, blacks are usually SO EXTRA benevolent and civil in today’s American society ...
This is some of the funniest stuff Richards has done in years!!! Real gorilla comedy - i.e. Lenny Bruce, Pryor, Kaufman... MOST of you are such PC, cool aid drinking, robotic, idiots, that you're missing it, it flew right over your fat liberal heads...
Peace Out Nigga's
90. Posted by i_like_sake on November 20, 2006 3:19 PM
#74, thats funny you should say that he JUST happend to "lose it" and all of us should "get over it". Maybe black people would get over it if other people (like Mike) would stop bringing it up all the time. Lets be serious...even though slavery happend years ago, it'll never be forgotten.
And you can't compare calling a woman a "cum bucket" to calling a random black guy a nigger.
91. Posted by simon134 on November 20, 2006 3:20 PM
Yo, Peace Out Nigga!
And to all you Honky Ass Crackas, I'm Rich Bitch!
Just like Nigger is an immature word, remember the key word here people, it's a WORD!
And just like mommy told you when you were little, "Stick and stone may break my bones, but words will never hurt me!"
Grow up you fucking skirts, stop whining, and do something productive!
92. Posted by kitty_kat on November 20, 2006 3:21 PM
Wow. You mean you actually took the time out from cutting eye holes in your white sheets to respond? I'm impressed. Oh- and you actually believe that not using the N-word means you're not a racist. How cute.I'm not even gonna bother. Just shut your filthy mouth, okay honey? Thanks!
93. Posted by SumLikeitHoTT on November 20, 2006 3:21 PM
74. and all others who say
...well it's okay if your mad and use racial slurs, we're human, we've all done it..what about Pryor and Def Comedy..."
you see the word "Nigger" basically TOPS the list of what racial slur not to say....not other word stirs up this much controversy as thisand no number of rap songs and "terms of endearment usage" can change the negative effect it has on people...the word's history cuts far too deep
so yes the hecklers were out of line..but that was NO WAY to handle the situation mad or not.
94. Posted by kitty_kat on November 20, 2006 3:22 PM
That was in response to #77 by the way...
95. Posted by simon134 on November 20, 2006 3:23 PM
#90, You're a fucking moron!
I'm black and I think calling anyone a name is offensive, but none should be more offensive than another!
You must have the mindset that you can bash Christians, but you can't bash Muslims because they'll take offense!
Either it's all okay, or none of it is okay!
96. Posted by kitty_kat on November 20, 2006 3:23 PM
#92 was in response to #77 by the way...
97. Posted by FutremanWalken on November 20, 2006 3:27 PM
90. How about I call someone a faggot, Does that mean I have a problem with gay people. What if I just "lost it". What If I just want to offend someone?
Hey, remember when Jessie Jackson referred to NY as hymietown town. He wasn't even attacking someone, he was making a general statement to offend an entire city. How do you feel about that?
98. Posted by simon134 on November 20, 2006 3:28 PM
#93, one question, WHY?
Your complete neglect of every other incident and atrocity done in the name of race, religion, or ethnicity is just ignorant!
One word can NOT and should NOT trump other words, EVER! And to give that word so much power is idiotic!
Get over it!
99. Posted by steven franks on November 20, 2006 3:31 PM
Who really cares what this guy says. As a black guy , I have other things to worry about(paying my mortage). I am not surprised. I wonder if this guy is Jewish? Some of the best comedians have been either of black or Jewish heritage. He is not funny not in the least. INEXPERIENCED-NOT FUNNY. It is interesting; if someone made reference to Jews and the gas chamber, wouldn't it be just as horrific. If you are heckled (2) things: stop; or call security.
Racial slurs are no justification, not funny. Only a fool could justify it.
100. Posted by SumLikeitHoTT on November 20, 2006 3:32 PM
89 you're SO out of line.
there IS a double standard in using racial slurs in comedy bits and in the real world as well. AND what Richards was doing WAS NOT comedy, he was just bitter and mad.
the truth is a white man is going to get a hail storm of criticism and complaints for using the word because he will never know how it feels to be called one, no term compares to the word.
101. Posted by Dingles on November 20, 2006 3:37 PM
wow, i love how it's conveniently ignored that those guys were screaming "cracka-ass-cracka" and "honkey" at him. so those racist slurs are no big deal but nigger is "uncalled for".
please.
but oh well, michael richards should at least have the satisfaction of knowing that not too long ago he would've owned those guys. literally.
btw racism will never die. black people make too much money off of it to let it.
102. Posted by SumLikeitHoTT on November 20, 2006 3:41 PM
98. Because seriously it does hold that much power...it sucks that it does...but it's caused deaths, started riots, tears, and anger.
And i'm not forgetting about and other religious and ethnic horror in the worlds history.And there are other words that hurt for sure. but this word. what this word has done to people. you can't deminish what it means because there is still blatant racism even though there's no slavery and hey blacks use it it must be getting better, it's not.look at that teen group Prussian Blue.or "Niggaspace.com". leveled out maybe but not progressed.
103. Posted by captainpyro on November 20, 2006 3:42 PM
#98 is 100% right. How is calling a black guy a "nigger" any worse than calling a Jew a "kike" or a Mexican a "spic," and so on?
#97, Everytime I hear that, I think of Eddie Murphy on SNL, singing as Jessie Jackson. "Don't let me down, Hymie-town." LMOA!
104. Posted by captainpyro on November 20, 2006 3:44 PM
Shit...LMAO...too much beer.
105. Posted by BarbadoSlim on November 20, 2006 3:46 PM
I think #100 nailed it, it would be interesting if a white comedian could pull off an Eminem and do racial material without offending but this wasn't that, this was just Richards pissed off.
106. Posted by BarbadoSlim on November 20, 2006 3:49 PM
#103, hahahahaha that Murphy bit was AND still is da shit.
107. Posted by FutremanWalken on November 20, 2006 3:49 PM
NAACP (The National Association for the Advancement of Colored People), The United Negro College Fund: Whities Need Not Apply.
108. Posted by mrs.t on November 20, 2006 3:51 PM
Can I just take a moment to mention the Curb Your Enthusiasm episode where Larry David attempts to be 'affable' upon meeting Richard Lewis' black doctor for the first time? "You mean you let him treat you, with affirmative action and everything?" Now, THAT"S some awkwardly funny faux-racist shit. Michael Richards ceased to be funny when he ceased to have writers feeding him ideas.
109. Posted by mytwocents on November 20, 2006 3:53 PM
If any of you live in the Los Angeles area I highly recommend visiting the 'Tunnel of Tolerance' at the Museum of Tolerance. We went on a field trip there back when I was in high school and we spent as much time as we could in that tunnel. A speaker would blast racist / ethnic / sexist / anti-semetic etc, slurs out from the walls while standing in the dark as night tunnel. There must have been 30 of us at any given time crammed in there. That was some funny shit.
110. Posted by FutremanWalken on November 20, 2006 3:54 PM
What Richards should have said was: If you dont like the show why dont you tighten up your Timberlands and walk back to your Escalade.
111. Posted by Courtney on November 20, 2006 4:02 PM
He forgot to call the guy "sugar tits".
112. Posted by FutremanWalken on November 20, 2006 4:03 PM
I am a huge fan of Michael Richards. I refuse to let people define him by this on loss of self control.
113. Posted by TorontoMapleLeafs on November 20, 2006 4:04 PM
so black people are aloud to call us anything they want. a cracker a honky. people say chink or paki. but nigger, OH NO a white person called a black person a nigger. get over yourselves and lighten up. its stupid when people get offended so easily, little babies, wahhh..
its sounds like he doesnt like black people to much, but im sure he has a reason. i hate certain races, and i have my damn reasons
114. Posted by mrs.t on November 20, 2006 4:04 PM
Tolerance Museums are just never that cool. We have a new ( architecturally stunning) Freedom Center museum in Cincinnati. Where do you think they built it? Right down in the heart of the fucking ghetto, because, you know, poor black women with 8 kids and no baby daddies in the picture LOVE to get historical information about how they got where they are. They have both the time and the money. I have been there twice, and the only black people I saw were serving drinks.
I give it another year before it becomes downtown Cincinnati's first Wal-Mart.
115. Posted by mrs.t on November 20, 2006 4:06 PM
And yes, I had just moved here when we had the very entertaining Race Riots of 2001. The cops here are terrifying-and I moved here from NYC.
116. Posted by Grope For Luna on November 20, 2006 4:08 PM
#55, That seems to be a pet obsession with you. Were you molested as a child?
117. Posted by BarbadoSlim on November 20, 2006 4:08 PM
#113 off the top of my head I'm gonna guess that one of the reasons is that you're an asshole, another might be that you are uneducated, and also an inbred.
118. Posted by normella on November 20, 2006 4:13 PM
113 - interesting. so you hate "certain raceS" which means you hate the only other two races besides the caucasian race, I'm assuming?
Ignorance, folks. It's a killer!
119. Posted by i_like_sake on November 20, 2006 4:15 PM
LOL @95. I'm a fuckin idiot, huh? Okay, we'll being a BLACK WOMEN, I can certainly say that I'd be more offended if someone called me a nigger than if someone called me a slut or cum bucket. And you, being a black dude so you say, think they are both "equally" offensive, huh? Well, no offense but eat me, k?
Next up...97, calling "someone" a faggot is not gonna offend a person anymore than a gay person calling a straight person calling a staright person ignorant or homophobic. And I can relate...my sisters gay and she doesn't take it personal. Let me back that up by saying it depends on the person...and what they are going through. The word nigger has history. It offends everyone...even those who are not black. So don't lose you cool under pressure. This could've been handled better.
120. Posted by TorontoMapleLeafs on November 20, 2006 4:17 PM
#117- see your one of those pathetic people who cant take things lightly. how bout not care so much. and what does imbread have anything to do with that whole topic
#118- which i mean is, theres different nationalities, same thing to me. theres more then 3 nationalities on this earth, mmkay?
121. Posted by normella on November 20, 2006 4:22 PM
120 - just so you know, a race is not the same as a nationality. In fact, they almost have no correlation.
Why do I even bother? ::throws a ball of yarn::
122. Posted by jrzmommy on November 20, 2006 4:26 PM
Here's what white privilege sounds like:
I am sitting in my University of Texas office, talking to a very bright and very conservative white student about affirmative action in college admissions, which he opposes and I support.
The student says he wants a level playing field with no unearned advantages for anyone. I ask him whether he thinks that in the United States being white has advantages. Have either of us, I ask, ever benefited from being white in a world run mostly by white people? Yes, he concedes, there is something real and tangible we could call white privilege.
So, if we live in a world of white privilege--unearned white privilege--how does that affect your notion of a level playing field? I ask.
He paused for a moment and said, "That really doesn't matter."
That statement, I suggested to him, reveals the ultimate white privilege: the privilege to acknowledge you have unearned privilege but ignore what it means.
That exchange led me to rethink the way I talk about race and racism with students. It drove home to me the importance of confronting the dirty secret that we white people carry around with us everyday: In a world of white privilege, some of what we have is unearned. I think much of both the fear and anger that comes up around discussions of affirmative action has its roots in that secret. So these days, my goal is to talk openly and honestly about white supremacy and white privilege.
White privilege, like any social phenomenon, is complex. In a white supremacist culture, all white people have privilege, whether or not they are overtly racist themselves. There are general patterns, but such privilege plays out differently depending on context and other aspects of one's identity (in my case, being male gives me other kinds of privilege). Rather than try to tell others how white privilege has played out in their lives, I talk about how it has affected me.
I am as white as white gets in this country. I am of northern European heritage and I was raised in North Dakota, one of the whitest states in the country. I grew up in a virtually all-white world surrounded by racism, both personal and institutional. Because I didn't live near a reservation, I didn't even have exposure to the state's only numerically significant non-white population, American Indians.
I have struggled to resist that racist training and the ongoing racism of my culture. I like to think I have changed, even though I routinely trip over the lingering effects of that internalized racism and the institutional racism around me. But no matter how much I "fix" myself, one thing never changes--I walk through the world with white privilege.
What does that mean? Perhaps most importantly, when I seek admission to a university, apply for a job, or hunt for an apartment, I don't look threatening. Almost all of the people evaluating me for those things look like me--they are white. They see in me a reflection of themselves, and in a racist world that is an advantage. I smile. I am white. I am one of them. I am not dangerous. Even when I voice critical opinions, I am cut some slack. After all, I'm white.
My flaws also are more easily forgiven because I am white. Some complain that affirmative action has meant the university is saddled with mediocre minority professors. I have no doubt there are minority faculty who are mediocre, though I don't know very many. As Henry Louis Gates Jr. once pointed out, if affirmative action policies were in place for the next hundred years, it's possible that at the end of that time the university could have as many mediocre minority professors as it has mediocre white professors. That isn't meant as an insult to anyone, but is a simple observation that white privilege has meant that scores of second-rate white professors have slid through the system because their flaws were overlooked out of solidarity based on race, as well as on gender, class and ideology.
Some people resist the assertions that the United States is still a bitterly racist society and that the racism has real effects on real people. But white folks have long cut other white folks a break. I know, because I am one of them.
I am not a genius--as I like to say, I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer. I have been teaching full-time for six years, and I've published a reasonable amount of scholarship. Some of it is the unexceptional stuff one churns out to get tenure, and some of it, I would argue, actually is worth reading. I work hard, and I like to think that I'm a fairly decent teacher. Every once in awhile, I leave my office at the end of the day feeling like I really accomplished something. When I cash my paycheck, I don't feel guilty.
But, all that said, I know I did not get where I am by merit alone. I benefited from, among other things, white privilege. That doesn't mean that I don't deserve my job, or that if I weren't white I would never have gotten the job. It means simply that all through my life, I have soaked up benefits for being white. I grew up in fertile farm country taken by force from non-white indigenous people. I was educated in a well-funded, virtually all-white public school system in which I learned that white people like me made this country great. There I also was taught a variety of skills, including how to take standardized tests written by and for white people.
All my life I have been hired for jobs by white people. I was accepted for graduate school by white people. And I was hired for a teaching position at the predominantly white University of Texas, which had a white president, in a college headed by a white dean and in a department with a white chairman that at the time had one non-white tenured professor.
There certainly is individual variation in experience. Some white people have had it easier than me, probably because they came from wealthy families that gave them even more privilege. Some white people have had it tougher than me because they came from poorer families. White women face discrimination I will never know. But, in the end, white people all have drawn on white privilege somewhere in their lives.
Like anyone, I have overcome certain hardships in my life. I have worked hard to get where I am, and I work hard to stay there. But to feel good about myself and my work, I do not have to believe that "merit," as defined by white people in a white country, alone got me here. I can acknowledge that in addition to all that hard work, I got a significant boost from white privilege, which continues to protect me every day of my life from certain hardships.
At one time in my life, I would not have been able to say that, because I needed to believe that my success in life was due solely to my individual talent and effort. I saw myself as the heroic American, the rugged individualist. I was so deeply seduced by the culture's mythology that I couldn't see the fear that was binding me to those myths. Like all white Americans, I was living with the fear that maybe I didn't really deserve my success, that maybe luck and privilege had more to do with it than brains and hard work. I was afraid I wasn't heroic or rugged, that I wasn't special.
I let go of some of that fear when I realized that, indeed, I wasn't special, but that I was still me. What I do well, I still can take pride in, even when I know that the rules under which I work in are stacked in my benefit. I believe that until we let go of the fiction that people have complete control over their fate--that we can will ourselves to be anything we choose--then we will live with that fear. Yes, we should all dream big and pursue our dreams and not let anyone or anything stop us. But we all are the product both of what we will ourselves to be and what the society in which we live lets us be.
White privilege is not something I get to decide whether or not I want to keep. Every time I walk into a store at the same time as a black man and the security guard follows him and leaves me alone to shop, I am benefiting from white privilege. There is not space here to list all the ways in which white privilege plays out in our daily lives, but it is clear that I will carry this privilege with me until the day white supremacy is erased from this society.
Frankly, I don't think I will live to see that day; I am realistic about the scope of the task. However, I continue to have hope, to believe in the creative power of human beings to engage the world honestly and act morally. A first step for white people, I think, is to not be afraid to admit that we have benefited from white privilege. It doesn't mean we are frauds who have no claim to our success. It means we face a choice about what we do with our success.
123. Posted by mrs.t on November 20, 2006 4:26 PM
#119-I've read your post three times (why?), and it makes less sense now than it did 3 minutes ago.
Next up...Fourth Grade Spelling, Contractions, and Grammar!
Don't lose your cool, don't take it personally! (see how I did that, with the comma and the spelling?)
If your trying to hand someone his ass, make sure to proofread, darling.
124. Posted by clarknova on November 20, 2006 4:26 PM
"Now I'm going to get arrested for calling a black man a nigger".
Policeman: "No sir, you're being arrested for being a pathetic buffon."
125. Posted by clarknova on November 20, 2006 4:27 PM
To those who think that was funny, you deserve to be pitied.
126. Posted by mrs.t on November 20, 2006 4:30 PM
There really is nothing like racism to drive the posts up over 100 in record-time.
127. Posted by SumLikeitHoTT on November 20, 2006 4:30 PM
113...wow you have ure reason for hating entire races of people?
yeah...I'm sure EVERY single person in that race has personally saught to destroy your life
(rolling my eyes)
121...thank you
128. Posted by normella on November 20, 2006 4:31 PM
wonderful post, jrzmommy. wonderful.
And, 123: great post, too, but you also seemed to have misused "your" while correcting that moron's grammar. :/
::ducks::
129. Posted by biatcho on November 20, 2006 4:32 PM
Being someone who was walking out of her old office one day many years ago in Times Square trying to wade through the annoying, touristy, hillbilly MTV kiddies to get a fucking sandwich and was called a White Slut Whore for NO REASON by the lovely "Black Isrealites" who like to preach hate against the white man because we're white, I say free speeech is better than no speech at all. If one kind can do it against another, so can someone else.
While I don't necessarily agree with what Kramer, he has every right to preach about it if that's the fucked up way he feels. He's probably also pissed off at the total PC state we're inundated with by all the libtards of the world who claim free speech, unless it goes against their agenda. Now if he actually took a fork to said black man's anus, I say string him up & watch him bleed, but he does have the right to communicate whatever the fuck he feels. Just like the Black Isrealites do. In the middle of Times Square.
(When I say string him up & watch him bleed, I mean Kramer, not the darkie.)
130. Posted by shankyouverymuch on November 20, 2006 4:33 PM
Didn’t see what took place before the taping began... (HOW CONVENIENT)... MAYBE the niggers in the balcony were calling him white-racist names? ... Don't really care anyway... he DIDN'T make 1 untrue statement... If a darky got uppity 50 years ago, he most probably would have gotten hung!!! that's just a true fact... Thank goodness that doesn't happen anymore !?!?! ... anyway, blacks are usually SO EXTRA benevolent and civil in today’s American society ...
This is some of the funniest stuff Richards has done in years!!! Real gorilla comedy - i.e. Lenny Bruce, Pryor, Kaufman... MOST of you are such PC, cool aid drinking, robotic, idiots, that you're missing it, it flew right over your fat liberal heads...
131. Posted by thesarahficial on November 20, 2006 4:34 PM
michael richard's? what an ordinary name for such an animated man....
132. Posted by LindaParson on November 20, 2006 4:35 PM
So let's see...Mel Gibson racially slurs against Jews and everyone says 'Oh leave him alone,' and here everyone is in a tangle? Of course this dumbass was wrong but you can't pick sides- either get upset at any racial slurs or none of [b]them[/b].
133. Posted by shankyouverymuch on November 20, 2006 4:35 PM
#100
NO sweet cheeks, I’m NOT out of line... you’re just an idiot is all... it’s obvious you know NOTHING about comedy... LOOK back at Kaufman’s stand-up for example, he actively/routinely tried to turn he’s audience against him by saying the most outrageous insulting things he could think of to them... he wanted the back lash and hatred, he made fun of the crippled... etc-etc... Richards may have been trying to push the envelope here ?!? Most highly creative or brilliant people, after going through the same old shtick routine for so long, feel they have to break new ground... Everyone try’s new ways, idea’s, methods... maybe this was his way !?!?! I’m not saying he is in the same league as the greats, I don’t know... but I do know that he didn’t misstate or lie about anything he said... OPEN you LOCKED-UP fatheaded mind and listen again... who knows, if try real hard you might even get it...
PEACE OUT NIGGA
134. Posted by jrzmommy on November 20, 2006 4:36 PM
Here's what white privilege sounds like:
I am sitting in my University of Texas office, talking to a very bright and very conservative white student about affirmative action in college admissions, which he opposes and I support.
The student says he wants a level playing field with no unearned advantages for anyone. I ask him whether he thinks that in the United States being white has advantages. Have either of us, I ask, ever benefited from being white in a world run mostly by white people? Yes, he concedes, there is something real and tangible we could call white privilege.
So, if we live in a world of white privilege--unearned white privilege--how does that affect your notion of a level playing field? I ask.
He paused for a moment and said, "That really doesn't matter."
That statement, I suggested to him, reveals the ultimate white privilege: the privilege to acknowledge you have unearned privilege but ignore what it means.
That exchange led me to rethink the way I talk about race and racism with students. It drove home to me the importance of confronting the dirty secret that we white people carry around with us everyday: In a world of white privilege, some of what we have is unearned. I think much of both the fear and anger that comes up around discussions of affirmative action has its roots in that secret. So these days, my goal is to talk openly and honestly about white supremacy and white privilege.
White privilege, like any social phenomenon, is complex. In a white supremacist culture, all white people have privilege, whether or not they are overtly racist themselves. There are general patterns, but such privilege plays out differently depending on context and other aspects of one's identity (in my case, being male gives me other kinds of privilege). Rather than try to tell others how white privilege has played out in their lives, I talk about how it has affected me.
I am as white as white gets in this country. I am of northern European heritage and I was raised in North Dakota, one of the whitest states in the country. I grew up in a virtually all-white world surrounded by racism, both personal and institutional. Because I didn't live near a reservation, I didn't even have exposure to the state's only numerically significant non-white population, American Indians.
I have struggled to resist that racist training and the ongoing racism of my culture. I like to think I have changed, even though I routinely trip over the lingering effects of that internalized racism and the institutional racism around me. But no matter how much I "fix" myself, one thing never changes--I walk through the world with white privilege.
What does that mean? Perhaps most importantly, when I seek admission to a university, apply for a job, or hunt for an apartment, I don't look threatening. Almost all of the people evaluating me for those things look like me--they are white. They see in me a reflection of themselves, and in a racist world that is an advantage. I smile. I am white. I am one of them. I am not dangerous. Even when I voice critical opinions, I am cut some slack. After all, I'm white.
My flaws also are more easily forgiven because I am white. Some complain that affirmative action has meant the university is saddled with mediocre minority professors. I have no doubt there are minority faculty who are mediocre, though I don't know very many. As Henry Louis Gates Jr. once pointed out, if affirmative action policies were in place for the next hundred years, it's possible that at the end of that time the university could have as many mediocre minority professors as it has mediocre white professors. That isn't meant as an insult to anyone, but is a simple observation that white privilege has meant that scores of second-rate white professors have slid through the system because their flaws were overlooked out of solidarity based on race, as well as on gender, class and ideology.
Some people resist the assertions that the United States is still a bitterly racist society and that the racism has real effects on real people. But white folks have long cut other white folks a break. I know, because I am one of them.
I am not a genius--as I like to say, I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer. I have been teaching full-time for six years, and I've published a reasonable amount of scholarship. Some of it is the unexceptional stuff one churns out to get tenure, and some of it, I would argue, actually is worth reading. I work hard, and I like to think that I'm a fairly decent teacher. Every once in awhile, I leave my office at the end of the day feeling like I really accomplished something. When I cash my paycheck, I don't feel guilty.
But, all that said, I know I did not get where I am by merit alone. I benefited from, among other things, white privilege. That doesn't mean that I don't deserve my job, or that if I weren't white I would never have gotten the job. It means simply that all through my life, I have soaked up benefits for being white. I grew up in fertile farm country taken by force from non-white indigenous people. I was educated in a well-funded, virtually all-white public school system in which I learned that white people like me made this country great. There I also was taught a variety of skills, including how to take standardized tests written by and for white people.
All my life I have been hired for jobs by white people. I was accepted for graduate school by white people. And I was hired for a teaching position at the predominantly white University of Texas, which had a white president, in a college headed by a white dean and in a department with a white chairman that at the time had one non-white tenured professor.
There certainly is individual variation in experience. Some white people have had it easier than me, probably because they came from wealthy families that gave them even more privilege. Some white people have had it tougher than me because they came from poorer families. White women face discrimination I will never know. But, in the end, white people all have drawn on white privilege somewhere in their lives.
Like anyone, I have overcome certain hardships in my life. I have worked hard to get where I am, and I work hard to stay there. But to feel good about myself and my work, I do not have to believe that "merit," as defined by white people in a white country, alone got me here. I can acknowledge that in addition to all that hard work, I got a significant boost from white privilege, which continues to protect me every day of my life from certain hardships.
At one time in my life, I would not have been able to say that, because I needed to believe that my success in life was due solely to my individual talent and effort. I saw myself as the heroic American, the rugged individualist. I was so deeply seduced by the culture's mythology that I couldn't see the fear that was binding me to those myths. Like all white Americans, I was living with the fear that maybe I didn't really deserve my success, that maybe luck and privilege had more to do with it than brains and hard work. I was afraid I wasn't heroic or rugged, that I wasn't special.
I let go of some of that fear when I realized that, indeed, I wasn't special, but that I was still me. What I do well, I still can take pride in, even when I know that the rules under which I work in are stacked in my benefit. I believe that until we let go of the fiction that people have complete control over their fate--that we can will ourselves to be anything we choose--then we will live with that fear. Yes, we should all dream big and pursue our dreams and not let anyone or anything stop us. But we all are the product both of what we will ourselves to be and what the society in which we live lets us be.
White privilege is not something I get to decide whether or not I want to keep. Every time I walk into a store at the same time as a black man and the security guard follows him and leaves me alone to shop, I am benefiting from white privilege. There is not space here to list all the ways in which white privilege plays out in our daily lives, but it is clear that I will carry this privilege with me until the day white supremacy is erased from this society.
Frankly, I don't think I will live to see that day; I am realistic about the scope of the task. However, I continue to have hope, to believe in the creative power of human beings to engage the world honestly and act morally. A first step for white people, I think, is to not be afraid to admit that we have benefited from white privilege. It doesn't mean we are frauds who have no claim to our success. It means we face a choice about what we do with our success.
135. Posted by i_like_sake on November 20, 2006 4:41 PM
jrzmommy...that was so truthful. I can't even explain how much I agree with that. Its so upsetting that this is how it is, so to speak.
136. Posted by Grope For Luna on November 20, 2006 4:42 PM
Jizzrmommy, I was going to ask you to attibute your source, but who the hell would believe that you teach at the University of Texas. Really.
137. Posted by Grope For Luna on November 20, 2006 4:44 PM
Attribute! A-T-T-R-I-B-U-T-E!
138. Posted by biatcho on November 20, 2006 4:45 PM
jrz, that made my brain hurt the same way time travel movies do.
139. Posted by jrzmommy on November 20, 2006 4:47 PM
Robert Jensen, U of T Professor
140. Posted by mrs.t on November 20, 2006 4:48 PM
normella: Indeed I did. Damn, what's worse than trying to be a smartie-pants and making a stupid mistake? Now I know how Republicans must feel.
141. Posted by jrzmommy on November 20, 2006 4:50 PM
I'm waiting to hear justme's response. Could this article be a reflection of TWB? Goodness me!
142. Posted by normella on November 20, 2006 4:50 PM
mrs. t - LOL!
143. Posted by Richard C Mongler on November 20, 2006 4:51 PM
Oh Michael Richards, you silly bitch. How I love you.
144. Posted by SumLikeitHoTT on November 20, 2006 4:51 PM
http://uts.cc.utexas.edu/~rjensen/freelance/whiteprivilege.htm
145. Posted by SumLikeitHoTT on November 20, 2006 4:52 PM
that was for 136
146. Posted by freakspeely on November 20, 2006 4:54 PM
Oh Jesus, here we go with the Kaufman/Bruce/Carlin comparisons already.
Look, if THAT was Richards's schtick, he would have been saying such things in his act for years. Don't confuse good edgy humor with a c-list pseudocelebrity's tantrum over someone in the audience talking shit about him. Dude was probably making jokes about the futility of coffee filters or some dumb shit before they started calling him out on not being funny, and THEN he decides to push the envelope?
I know comedy. Spoiled-ass "Kramer"'s rant was not comedy. It was the pussification of comedy trying to hide behind the "pushing the envelope" trend.
147. Posted by jFp on November 20, 2006 4:54 PM
The problem here is that they cut him off before the punchline. Which was:
"The Aristocrats"!!!!!!!!!
148. Posted by FutremanWalken on November 20, 2006 4:56 PM
It is not the color of the skin, it is what the color of skin represents in behavior and personal experience.
I grew up in an area where busing occurred and it ruined the schools, the neighborhoods, the county and more.
It wasn't because the kids were black, it was because of their behavior, attitude, and because they hated white people.
That area today has one of the nations highest homicide rate and poorest school systems. Thank you Brown Vs Board of Education!
149. Posted by LL on November 20, 2006 5:03 PM
RE 114 and 115. Posted by mrs.t on November 20, 2006 4:06 PM: Right on, for the most part. I'm not saying museums shouldn't document racial intolerance, but putting a "tolerance museum" in the shittiest part of town pretty much nullifies the whole thing. Politicians love to throw money at crap like museums because they can say they created jobs and get their pictures taken in front of them to pretend they care about art and/or tolerance. We have a "women's museum" here (Dallas). It's in Fair Park. Not the best part of town (especially at night), and not really convenient either, so no one goes except when the fair's going on, and even then, I'd bet they don't get that much traffic.
And word to Jrzmommy's very long post, too.
Used-to-Be Kramer wasn't striking a blow for free speech, he was just being an asshole. An unfunny asshole. Aren't comics/performers supposed to know how to handle hecklers? Even if the black heckler is sitting there saying bad shit about your mother, you're the one with the microphone. In the age of You Tube, you'd think a little heckling wouldn't make someone come unhinged like that, if for no other reason than because you don't want it circling the globe within the hour. And then to pretend it's some sort of Richard Pryor or Dave Chapelle-like confronting of racism by being racist yourself to show how stupid it is.... right. I'm sure that's how Richards' management is spinning it, but nobody's buying it. Any minute now, I expect Richards to announce that he's checking into some center for help in dealing with his substance abuse problem.
150. Posted by captainpyro on November 20, 2006 5:05 PM
#118 "so you hate "certain races" which means you hate the only other two races besides the caucasian race." Which only two other races? Blacks? Hispanics? Arabs? Asians? Native Americans? Indians? I'm confused.
151. Posted by sid on November 20, 2006 5:06 PM
That AOL shit never works for me. Anybody got a Youtube link to this? I just checked but am getting just old shit. It's gotta be out there.
PLEASE!
I'll keep checking back here...
152. Posted by shankyouverymuch on November 20, 2006 5:12 PM
#146
NO, you DON'T know comedy... In fact- I don't think you know comedy at all... because if you did know comedy, then comedy would tell you that I'm COMPLETELY RIGHT and you and people like "SumLikeitHoTT" are completely WRONG...and also that you are both POO-POO-HEADS...XOXOXOX ...
PEACE OUT NIGGA...
153. Posted by SumLikeitHoTT on November 20, 2006 5:12 PM
133.
146 is right on point here,
it's not like that's his thing, he would have used the word long before this show...don't use other's performances as an excuse for his behavior.
and clearly you and a handful of people were the only ones who found it funny, because the media, most of the people on this board, and the audience didn't get it.
154. Posted by FutremanWalken on November 20, 2006 5:14 PM
Its all about reference and experience not skin color. What color were the people interrupting his set? He was doing a set. The man was working and he lost it. He really lost it. He's an actor not a stand up comedian. The audience members kept bringing it. Richards is not a racist and to hell w/Jamie Masada from the laugh factory and even Jerry Seinfeld for not simply defending the fact that Richards clearly had a breakdown. He should not be defined as a racist.
155. Posted by jrzmommy on November 20, 2006 5:15 PM
148: Socioeconomic status is an indicator for social interaction as well.
"There's a lot of reasons why there are enormous wealth gaps between minorities and whites in America. The most simple answer is, it takes money to make money. Part of the reason that there's this enormous gap is because whites have long had higher wages and wealth to pass on from generation to generation. And it's like a snowball - it gets bigger and bigger as it gets passed on, and the interest gets compounded. That's partly the reason why the wealth gap has actually increased since the 1960s, since the civil rights times.
But that's not the whole story. There's a long history of exclusion of minorities from wealth accumulation in America, going back to right after the Civil War.
First of all, during slavery, slaves were forbidden legally in most cases from owning anything, including their own bodies. After the Civil War, Jim Crow laws instituted policies such as the Black Codes, which required black entrepreneurs to pay, for example, a $100 licensing fee but required whites to pay nothing. Back in 1870, $100 was basically like a million dollars today. It would shut people out of business. So blacks in the 19th century through that mechanism, and through pure terror, threats of lynching, were precluded from becoming business owners, as one example.
By the 20th century, you had the institution of redlining as a policy in which banks rated neighborhoods for loans based on a four-tier system, red being the lowest ranking that a neighborhood could get. And African American neighborhoods were invariably given this red circle around them, and no loans from private banks would go into that system. That was a policy that was initiated by the federal government and adopted by private lenders.
Fast forward to the New Deal, when Roosevelt really cut a devil's deal with white southern senators. He didn't overtly exclude blacks from Social Security, but subtly did it by excluding agricultural workers and domestic workers, who were predominantly minorities, from receiving Social Security benefits. This was done explicitly to appease southern Senators, to exclude African Americans, who were disproportionately employed in those two sectors. It wasn't until the Truman Administration that that got corrected. But there's a whole generation of elderly African Americans that didn't receive Social Security benefits, when in fact, it was the biggest giveaway of all, because no one had paid into the system yet.
So you had whites receiving this sort of windfall, and blacks not getting it. More poor black elderly not receiving Social Security means that working families in the African American community have to support them and pay for it. So it's not only an issue of that generation. It trickles down through issues of inheritance and having to support the aged.
Fast forward again to after World War II when you have two separate American housing policies. You have this really pro home ownership policy where the government guaranteed low-interest loans for whites in suburban America and helped them obtain wealth. And for minorities you get rental, large-scale, inner-city public housing, which of course is a wealth destruction policy.
In the 1960s there were occasional efforts to foster minority asset accumulation, but they really focused on things like financial skills, and community benefit which was, by definition, nonprofit. These efforts really didn't focus on rectifying the enormous wealth inequalities that had grown up to that point.
Until we correct the fundamental wealth inequalities, these little programs of financial education and other sorts of cultural issues aren't going to make much of a difference, because the underlying economic structure is still unequal.
I also would like to mention, by the way, that savings rates are the same for blacks and whites. That's a common stereotype, you know, of why these gaps exist - the idea that white people save more. And the data show that's simply not true."
156. Posted by WTF? on November 20, 2006 5:16 PM
WTF is it okay for black comedians to stand on stage and rag on white people, let alone use the n-word, but a white guy does it and its a fucking crime??
Anyone who can't see that Richards albeit in a clunky way was trying to be funny is just too stupid.
157. Posted by FutremanWalken on November 20, 2006 5:18 PM
155. Shut up. Please just shut up. I mean GOD Damn!
158. Posted by SumLikeitHoTT on November 20, 2006 5:20 PM
156.
yes actually it is considered okay for everyone who is not white to rag on white people and for whites to just take it...welcome to the double standard
it's just how it has worked out
after all no one wants to pull the slavery/ segregation cards up
159. Posted by jrzmommy on November 20, 2006 5:22 PM
I assume you would not be so excited about being bussed in or anything else if you worked just as hard if not harder than others and were still traditionally and systematically financially stripped, 148. Of course Brown v Board didn't work. And it never will until racism stops and those affected are given a chance to benefit from some of that thousand year old white privilege.
160. Posted by FutremanWalken on November 20, 2006 5:23 PM
155. I handled mortgage loans for blacks and found that they do not save but rather have accumulated wealth through the govt. TSP as govt. employees. Many were also waiting for law suit settlements from "accidents" so they could gather their wealth. Most however, had large expensive cars and little or no funds in the bank. But thats ok, because the govt is not getting any smaller, and their jobs are secure.
Im sorry for dropping to this level but I have too much first hand experience on a large scale to simply let you get away w/ your b.s.
161. Posted by jrzmommy on November 20, 2006 5:27 PM
Poor FutremanWalken can't stand the truth of the effect of his actions. I would call it TWB but it would just be too hypocritical. Go read a history book, kid. Where in the world is justme?
162. Posted by jrzmommy on November 20, 2006 5:28 PM
Poor FutremanWalken can't stand the truth of the effect of his actions. I would call it TWB but it would just be too hypocritical. Go read a history book, kid. Where in the world is justme?
163. Posted by FutremanWalken on November 20, 2006 5:29 PM
159. Its that most young blacks view education as a white thing so they fight it. And as a matter of fact my wife was bused into a black area school, and the treatment and notes she received from male 2nd graders would put what Richards said to shame!
164. Posted by jrzmommy on November 20, 2006 5:33 PM
160, see little note above about the typical white microcosm. Why is it okay for you to live off of the government and the free enforced labor of minorities not to mention your general white privilege pass to get ahead, but it's not okay for minorities to do the same for themselves. Whites have been doing it for thousands of years. Ever heard of colonialism? Get a clue. You're so socially unaware. Why not actually read the paragraphs above and check the stats about government welfare programs for whites that allow you to sit on your fat ass in front of your computer and post messages right now. You must be kidding.
165. Posted by TNB Alerts on November 20, 2006 5:35 PM
That was pure TNB and he was just calling a spade a spade. Negroes use that word all the time, so what if a white man uses it to call TNB?
166. Posted by FutremanWalken on November 20, 2006 5:38 PM
First of all Im not fat. That does offend me (lol). This will be my last posting and possibly my last visit to the site. I will not read your next posting as I will sign off right after sending this. So go ahead and type away.
Each black generation just like yourself loves to reference the past. The teachings of black adults to their young is what keeps blacks racist views of whites alive. Do your race and yourslef a favor and EVOLVE and join us in the present!
167. Posted by camipop on November 20, 2006 5:40 PM
first of all: he should have been able to handle hecklers. they were being rude, but that doesn't mean he should have acted equally immature and exploded like that. whether or not you want to believe he's racist, his passionate tirade would indicate some deeply felt convictions. he probably surprised himself, but with a temper like that i'm surprised he's been around so long. it's not about being pc - it's about treating other people like humans.
second of all: black comedians use racism all the time. women use sexism. sacha baron cohen uses anti-semitism. it can be done in the right way, and it can be funny. it isn't necessarily "right", but a huge part of comedy is its irreverence, it's un-PCness. but what richards did is not the same. it's comparable to saying something like "back in the day i could have raped you and sold you to a brothel" to a woman or "50 years ago we would have put your ass in the oven" to a jew. that's not comedy, and that's not ok.
third of all: free speech is one of the most important privileges we have in this country. BUT, that doesn't mean racism is acceptable. making generalizations about or demonizing another race or culture/ethnicity is completely ignorant and small-minded, no matter who you are. the best thing to do when you experience it is to be an adult about it, not to respond in kind.
168. Posted by shankyouverymuch on November 20, 2006 5:41 PM
#153
At what point he started using the word has NO bearing on anything, bolder-brain... Beside how in the hell do you know when he did or didn’t start using that word??? ... Maybe this was just the first time some fool in the audience had a video phone to record it! ... Even if it was the first time, maybe this is when he decided to spice things up?!?! The point is YOU don’t KNOW! you’re logic is full of holes, you and people like you love to fill in the blanks with your own twisted view of how things ought to be... sorry sweet cheeks, things aren’t all sugar plums and vanilla soda pop...
As for me being only one of a small cadre of people to see things clearly on this issue, I take pride in that... It in NO way means that I’m wrong, and in NO way would I ever want to be part of your majority, my little wood sprite... If you remembered your bible you could recall there was another fellow back about 2000 years who was also in the minority ... His name was Jesus ... Now say your prayers and go straight to bed, this material is much too heady for you to truly understand and will ultimately give you a headache ...
169. Posted by jrzmommy on November 20, 2006 5:42 PM
I'm not black. And again, you cannot ignore history when it affects the present so obviously. Enjoy your historical welfare check, you hypocritical halfwit.
170. Posted by camipop on November 20, 2006 5:45 PM
oh yes, and i may i add that any one person's personal experiences with a member or a few members of a certain race are not enough to condemn every member of that race. i don't know how many times it needs to be said that there are stupid people and smart people in every race, and one must also consider the cultural and historical implications of being of a certain race. we don't live in a vacuum where everything is black and white (no pun intended).
171. Posted by Land-Man on November 20, 2006 5:45 PM
Niggers R Stoopid! I have a big "Land-Cock." Do the Dew (AKA: "Land-Cock")! Derrrrr...
172. Posted by shankyouverymuch on November 20, 2006 5:46 PM
#157
Dear lord... I SECOND, THIRD, FOURTH... ETC,ETC your motion!!!!!!!
173. Posted by Land-Man on November 20, 2006 5:49 PM
GOOD LORD! That "Land-Cock is monstrous!
174. Posted by Justme on November 20, 2006 5:50 PM
The reason it is NOT okay for white people to use the n word is because of the history behind it and they way the word was used. It kills me that some of you go back to how poor black people are and how uneducated they are as well. What does that have to do with this asshole getting up on stage and saying things that should not have been said. Either way you look at it, it wasn't right. Who cares if black comedians get on stage and use the n word. You should be responsible for your own actions and deal with the outcome, just like he should. I can't believe people are taking up for him. I am an African American chemisrty major who comes from a hard working family......and I don't sit on my ass and wait on the government to send me money either. Grow up and don't be so closed minded.
175. Posted by Land-Man on November 20, 2006 5:50 PM
no end quotes " symbolizes the immensity of the Land-Cock".
176. Posted by Land-Man on November 20, 2006 5:52 PM
This Just In.... "Land-Cock is HUGE!!!"
Blacks aren't good at mathematics... unless, "you talkin' bout some crack" LOL!!
177. Posted by Grope For Luna on November 20, 2006 5:53 PM
So true. I went to the White Bank the other day and got an interest free loan for my new business venture - a chain of Miracle Whip restaurants. Thanks to all my white brothers and sisters for sharing their money !
178. Posted by jrzmommy on November 20, 2006 5:55 PM
hahahahahahahahahaha! roflmao! i love the justme troll! justme is going to shit himself! Black chem major? He wishes! hahahahaha
179. Posted by Land-Man on November 20, 2006 5:56 PM
Michael Richards had a banana print on his shirt. The monkeys (african-americans) thought it was real bananas, and went crazy! What a bunch of apes! :D LOL!!
180. Posted by shankyouverymuch on November 20, 2006 5:56 PM
PLEASE, PLEASE- someone--ANYONE-- SHUT jrzmommy the fuck up already... boo-hoo the blacks are so down trodden, what a bunch of miserable propaganda shit...
Hey Land-Man what would it cost me for you to stick your massive LAND-COCK down jrzmommy's throat, or up her ass, to finally shut her dumb cry baby mouth up!!! ... Maybe I can take up a collection...
181. Posted by camipop on November 20, 2006 5:58 PM
177 - i just had the urge to rip you apart, but i won't do that. instead, i will say this: i'm a junior at harvard, a black female, and i didn't receive handouts from ANYONE. my mother never received welfare, and we were never a part of any "black community," so get your fucking facts straight before you try to make jokes. stop making dumbass generalizations.
182. Posted by jrzmommy on November 20, 2006 5:59 PM
Hahaha at 177. You should look up that Eddie Murphy SNL skit about white people getting stuff for free when they shop. He puts on white make-up and goes undercover. ROFLMAO. And does anyone understand what Land-Man is talking about? I think it's about black men and their huge cocks and how white women can't get enough. If so, right on!
183. Posted by Justme on November 20, 2006 5:59 PM
Actually jrzmommy I am female and yes I am a chem major.
184. Posted by jrzmommy on November 20, 2006 6:04 PM
180 is SUCH a loser. I bet you he's the kind who ignores the facts of history and thinks minorities are where they are because they want to be. Years of colonization, forced enslavement, brutal violence, and financial theft by whites that was FINALLY legislated against a mere 50 years ago have nothing to do with it. Did you drop out of school in the 3rd grade, or are you just THAT dumb about history?
185. Posted by Grope For Luna on November 20, 2006 6:05 PM
All other factors being equal, a short fat homely white woman has a poorer chance of being hired/promoted than a tall, trim, attractive black woman. There are many other factors for discrimination than skin color. If individuals want to practice affirmative action, so be it, but the government should abandon this inherently flawed policy.
Oh, and white people don't put their money in a big pot and share it between them. Old money means nothing to the average workin' stiff.
186. Posted by jrzmommy on November 20, 2006 6:05 PM
Wow, so I guess the new justme can no longer be sexist and racist, right? Welcome to superficial new justme!
187. Posted by Grope For Luna on November 20, 2006 6:08 PM
181 - Learn to count.
188. Posted by Land-Man on November 20, 2006 6:09 PM
Black cocks look like poop. Real hot. But the LANDCOCK is pure alabaster. Black people are made out of poop.
189. Posted by jrzmommy on November 20, 2006 6:11 PM
I'm with you Grope. Racial discrimination is not as prevalent in today's generally superficial society. Good looks are typically more important now. And if you lack good looks, then wealth is. And if you have both then you're a morally worthless herpetic heiress. I just don't think it's fair for people to pretend that history did not happen and that there are no current ramifications from centuries of brutalizing minority races. It has created inequalities, and it doesn't do anyone any good to pretend that whites are not richer and more privileged because of hundreds of years of violence, brutalization, theft from minorities and other societal designs. That is just how it was. You can't deny it or rewrite it.
190. Posted by Land-Man on November 20, 2006 6:13 PM
Give money to living poop!?!
191. Posted by antadam on November 20, 2006 6:13 PM
YouTube link is below.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPFQUweJuvM&eurl=
192. Posted by mytwocents on November 20, 2006 6:15 PM
not sure if it's been mentioned already but he's gonna make a 'statement' during the Seinfeld interview on Letterman tonight. Who wants to take bets that he blames alcohol in some way?
http://www.thespinzone.com
193. Posted by Land-Man on November 20, 2006 6:17 PM
Flush the poop
194. Posted by jrzmommy on November 20, 2006 6:18 PM
He's going to claim to have anger management issues
195. Posted by Dan on November 20, 2006 6:18 PM
It could also have been more pathetic if Jerry Seinfeld was in the video, tearing up Michael Richard's invitation to Jerry Seinfeld's birthday party.
196. Posted by Land-Man on November 20, 2006 6:20 PM
LOL Dan! Are you a poop nigger? Sound like one.
197. Posted by Dan on November 20, 2006 6:21 PM
You want me to sound like one?
198. Posted by Land-Man on November 20, 2006 6:23 PM
I wish I had a big black cock. All I have is my teeny alabaster.
199. Posted by Land-Man on November 20, 2006 6:24 PM
I guess I will take the big black one in my ass. That's the only way I will ever have a big cock. LOL.
200. Posted by Dan on November 20, 2006 6:25 PM
Mother of pearl?
201. Posted by Land-Man on November 20, 2006 6:25 PM
I am Land-Man. Me Stoopid! Me small penis I have! Like wet dog smell me!
202. Posted by Land-Man on November 20, 2006 6:26 PM
My small wee wee just broke and fell off. Does that make me gay?
203. Posted by Land-Man on November 20, 2006 6:27 PM
Me gay Land-Man. Gay BOTTOM. Cum get me! Big black cock yummy!
204. Posted by Land-Man on November 20, 2006 6:30 PM
SOMEONE Has HiJacked-Land Man!!!!
205. Posted by Land-Man on November 20, 2006 6:31 PM
Someone has HiJacked my ass! Big cock in my big gaping anus!
206. Posted by Land-Man on November 20, 2006 6:31 PM
I'm calling the FCC as we speak, smartass. Hope you like being arrested LOL!!!
207. Posted by CatManRay on November 20, 2006 6:32 PM
Don't forget this is a Jew saying this about Black people. Not a dam thing is going to happen to him. If he was anyone else saying this about Jews, he'd be appologizing 24/7 for the rest of his life
208. Posted by Land-Man on November 20, 2006 6:32 PM
Stop threatening me with the FCC, fake Land-Man, and give me back the bit of my wee wee that fell on the floor! I need it!
209. Posted by Land-Man on November 20, 2006 6:33 PM
HOW CAN THERE BE 2 LANDMANS!!!! My God, it's all coming together, just like I feared. May God have mercy on us all.
210. Posted by CatManRay on November 20, 2006 6:33 PM
Where are his ex-costars going to say about his action?
211. Posted by Land-Man on November 20, 2006 6:33 PM
FAKE LAND-MAN MUST BE STOPPED! PLEASE HELP ME! SUPERFICIAL MAN, HELP!!!!
212. Posted by Land-Man on November 20, 2006 6:35 PM
POOP AND URINE! LAND-MAN LOVES COCK.
213. Posted by shankyouverymuch on November 20, 2006 6:35 PM
#184
Boo-Hoo, boo-hoo... the poor black, oh dear, history has been so very mean to them, the poor, poor black people. It doesn’t matter that TODAY in many African countries there are blacks that enslave and own other blacks... it doesn’t matter at all, because you see here in America where blacks have more opportunity then anywhere else on the planet, we still have a cruel history that we must make up for...
Hey jrzmommy you old hag how many blacks do you have on your personal payroll? How much money do you give to black causes... How many times have you gone down to the black ghetto near you, picked up a black-bum taken him back your house fed him a meal, let him take a bath in your tub, and then let him spend the night in your house with your family ?!?! I know you care about the poor used and abused black man SO VERY much that you MUST do that on a regular basis, RIGHT...
You, and people that think like you, are the MOST full of themselves, (i.e. full of shit), self-righteous people on the planet... all talk... the only place that things work the way you think they should, is in your head... reality is COMPLETELY another matter... PEACE OUT NIGGA
214. Posted by dr03 on November 20, 2006 6:35 PM
You guys have to lighten up. Especially the people who are responding with the racist remarks just to get an action. You have to remember, you only have to be 13 to register on this site, meaning the majority of these people have too much time on there hands, so instead they post controversial remarks to get attention. See it all the time with various subjects on other sites.
215. Posted by Land-Man on November 20, 2006 6:36 PM
Give me back my wee wee!!!! My alabaster chunk!
216. Posted by Land-Man on November 20, 2006 6:38 PM
I know who you are, let's chat
217. Posted by Land-Man on November 20, 2006 6:38 PM
Ow. My penis hurts. fake Land-Man must be stopped! He hurt my penis.
218. Posted by Land-Man on November 20, 2006 6:39 PM
Chat with the fake Land-Man? NEVER! What kind of a fool do you take me for? I have called the FCC and the cops, and they will be knocking on your door in a few minutes. I advise that you mail my wee wee back to me and find a hiding place quickly.
219. Posted by CatManRay on November 20, 2006 6:40 PM
It never ceses to amaze me just how vile and wicked the hearts of white men are. Racist are going to get their just due. Karma is a vengful bitch!
220. Posted by Land-Man on November 20, 2006 6:43 PM
If you are Land-Man, how big is the Land-Cock? Or are you just a poser?
Maybe I'll copy your name: Big Stupid Fag Jew Loser
221. Posted by shankyouverymuch on November 20, 2006 6:46 PM
#219
You're obviously already living your Karma ... you're a dumb-ass... OXOXOXO !!!
222. Posted by Land-Man on November 20, 2006 6:50 PM
My wee Land-Cock is a raging 2 inches hard. Yeah, you know it! That shit is as alabaster as alabaster!
223. Posted by Land-Man on November 20, 2006 6:52 PM
You have crossed the line, prepare for retribution.
224. Posted by Land-Man on November 20, 2006 6:54 PM
You have crossed the line fake Land-Man, prepare for retribution.
225. Posted by Land-Man on November 20, 2006 6:55 PM
You have crossed the line fake Land-Man, prepare for retribution.
226. Posted by shankyouverymuch on November 20, 2006 6:56 PM
#223
You know what I do when someone accuses me of having a 2 inch cock? ... I say why YES it is only 2 inches, 2 INCHES from the ground!!! ... That's funny... you it is!
227. Posted by Land-Man on November 20, 2006 7:00 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA 2 INCHES FROM THE GROUND! I wish. hahahahaha. that big cock is back in me bum!
228. Posted by Land-Man on November 20, 2006 7:53 PM
Land-Man sleep to go now!
229. Posted by SumLikeitHoTT on November 20, 2006 7:57 PM
In my opinion it is not okay for anyone to use racial slurs but in comedy you will find that it is accepted that people of non white ethnicity to use those terms but if its vice versa is not acceptable; and that the double standard its what comes with the territory when your people have a history of racial slurs negatively affected there well being.
230. Posted by Leori on November 20, 2006 8:28 PM
It's never all right to say that word OK thanks now fuck off
231. Posted by dadadidadadoo on November 20, 2006 8:34 PM
OK...apology on Letterman is going down like THIS:
Seinfeld and Letterman are having there witty banter, Dave's throwing pencils pretending to be amused and their laughing and everyone's happy...when all of a sudden...
Michael Richards comes out dressed as Hitler wearing crotchless painties, a giant black rubber cock strap, holding a fork and a bucket of vaseline. He runs over to Jerry, pulls down his pants and starts poking him up the ass with the fork. Blood and shit is spewing everywhere. Richards takes the bucket of vaseline and starts rubbing it all over his hairy body and forces it down Jerry's poor throat till his face turns purple. Paul Shaffer, while disgusted and completely shocked, becomes arroused and has the sudden urge to start poking and twisting this HUGE fork up Richards' ass. yummy yummy. Michael Richard's then takes this massive black cock and starts fucking Saffer up the ass. Now, at this point, there's cum, shit, and slimmy vaseline covered blood dripping from every corner of the stage. The first row of the audience starts throwing up the Red Lobster and New York Falafel they had before the show ("Andreeeè! You never take me to the Red Lobster anymore..). Seinfeld is out cold from the loss of blood. Shaffer has had enough of Richards' games and its his turn to dominate. He grabs a hold of Richard's strap-on with his teeth and rips it off like stale taffy. What was suppose to be in it's place is now to the audience's horror, a previously castrated penis (that was apparently cut off a couple nights before after a certain misunderstanding at an LA comedy club). So there's the Yunic, Michael Richard's, laying in his own puddle of shit, cum, piss, and blood; Seinfeld laying on the chair next to Letterman half dead; and Shaffer on all fours with a black rubber cock in his mouth, gripped by the clench of his teeth as blood drips from every pore.
"Well, that was an interesting display, Richard's. Is this your form of an apology? What on Earth was that???"
"Well...uhhh...I suppose. You see...we call ourselves the ARISTOCRATS!"
232. Posted by danielle on November 20, 2006 8:35 PM
damn. 230 posts relating to this simple ass post about how a middle-aged "nobody" who spews slurs in order to expand his already scattering 15 minutes of fame?
what is the world coming to? bahahahahaha ;)
233. Posted by troll evaluator on November 20, 2006 8:41 PM
jrzmommy troll - EXCELLENT JOB! the discussion is revolving in large part around your comments, which would NEVER be the case with the real jrzmommy (predictable lapdog to RichPort and others). well done!
234. Posted by dreamhypnotique on November 20, 2006 8:49 PM
I really don't understand what kind of response Kramer was looking for. Was he expecting the majority of the audience to go along with him in lynching the black hecklers? He must have been drunk, or maybe he was just crazy to begin with, or maybe he really just isn't all that funny and this stand-up comedy bit is just the last gasp of a dying man with a jewfro.
235. Posted by KelKel on November 20, 2006 8:57 PM
NIGGA PLEASE!....it's so easy,a Caveman could do it!
236. Posted by jrzmommy on November 20, 2006 9:11 PM
Thanks so much, troll evaluator! jrzmommy is a lapdog (and also doesn't seem very smart in general). You are so insightful to have seen the difference in our posts! Although since her comments are typically similar to Michael Richards' it wasn't too hard, haha. You rock! :-)
237. Posted by Danklin on November 20, 2006 9:11 PM
This guy is such a fucking assbag. The black dude was right, he IS a washed up asshole. Seinfeld wasnt even fucking funny....referring to the show making fun of the physically challenged on multiple occasions. This guy was the only amusing one and now he makes himself look like a fucking joke.
Way to go Michael Richards, we'll see how far your career goes now dipshit.
238. Posted by mariacelesteb on November 20, 2006 9:12 PM
I've always respected him. He's been around in the business for 30 years. I was in shock, but something's not right with this. It seems completely out of character and he seems quite disoriented these days. THIS IS ALMOST LIKE AN ANDY KAUFMAN GAG.
239. Posted by Danklin on November 20, 2006 9:15 PM
Also James, you're an assbag too. "Michael Richards should learn self control" Thats a pussyass comment if ive ever heard one.
You might as well stab him in the hand with a fork(no pun intended) and say now now we must not do that.
240. Posted by shankyouverymuch on November 20, 2006 9:18 PM
I didn’t see what took place before the taping began... did you??? (HOW CONVENIENT)... MAYBE the niggers in the balcony were calling him white-racist names? ... Don't really care anyway... he DIDN'T make 1 untrue statement... If a darky got uppity 50 years ago, he most probably would have gotten hung!!! that's just a true fact... Thank goodness that doesn't happen anymore !?!?! ... anyway, blacks are usually SO EXTRA benevolent and civil in today’s American society ...
This is some of the funniest stuff Richards has done in years!!! Real gorilla comedy - i.e. Lenny Bruce, Pryor, Kaufman... MOST of you are such PC, cool aid drinking, robotic, idiots, that most probably you're missing the whole point, it just flew right over your fat liberal heads…
PEACE OUT NIGGAS
241. Posted by shankyouverymuch on November 20, 2006 9:27 PM
#230
I'm sorry Leori, to which word are referring??? ... it isn't nigger is it? ... oh I'm sorry, I wrote the word nigger, when I really meant NIGGER... No- no, I mean
N-I-G-G-E-R... there, I think I got it right that time... Yes I'm sure I did... I hope didn't crush your feelings lover... OXOXOXO...
242. Posted by hellup on November 20, 2006 9:38 PM
oh my fricking god, who gives two shits why there's conditions when using the term nigger. i'm black, live in VA, so needless to say, i hear the word a lot whether i like it or not. don't ask why you can't be white and say it; it's just some fucking good advice. if you actually watch some of these black comedians, they'll let you know what we think is okay and what's not, it's a tried and true comedic act. don't sit there and bust a brain vessel thinking about it. and saying it anyway just because you were told "you can't" isn't all that mature. my advice is to just get it over with and say it ten times fast in a room by yourself, if you feel like you have to.
the real issue here is that lynching shit he was talking about, which for me in particular, really did happen about 50 years ago (hell, 5 years ago, to be exact) in my general vicinity. yes, that shit still goes on; not cool at all. Still i never watched seinfield, don't know this guy from adam, so i'm not swearing him off for life. it's if he slips up again and again, then i start to think of calling him crazy racist. like mel.
and that shit about the doctored tape and getting the full story of what this heckler said is bullshit. if you're bringing up lynching in a hissy fit, no matter how pissed you are, you've gone too far. him saying "nigger" pales in comparison, only cuz it happens so often.
peace out my 'fellow human beings'
243. Posted by jrzmommy on November 20, 2006 9:42 PM
For Shanks, with love
Here's what white privilege sounds like:
I am sitting in my University of Texas office, talking to a very bright and very conservative white student about affirmative action in college admissions, which he opposes and I support.
The student says he wants a level playing field with no unearned advantages for anyone. I ask him whether he thinks that in the United States being white has advantages. Have either of us, I ask, ever benefited from being white in a world run mostly by white people? Yes, he concedes, there is something real and tangible we could call white privilege.
So, if we live in a world of white privilege--unearned white privilege--how does that affect your notion of a level playing field? I ask.
He paused for a moment and said, "That really doesn't matter."
That statement, I suggested to him, reveals the ultimate white privilege: the privilege to acknowledge you have unearned privilege but ignore what it means.
That exchange led me to rethink the way I talk about race and racism with students. It drove home to me the importance of confronting the dirty secret that we white people carry around with us everyday: In a world of white privilege, some of what we have is unearned. I think much of both the fear and anger that comes up around discussions of affirmative action has its roots in that secret. So these days, my goal is to talk openly and honestly about white supremacy and white privilege.
White privilege, like any social phenomenon, is complex. In a white supremacist culture, all white people have privilege, whether or not they are overtly racist themselves. There are general patterns, but such privilege plays out differently depending on context and other aspects of one's identity (in my case, being male gives me other kinds of privilege). Rather than try to tell others how white privilege has played out in their lives, I talk about how it has affected me.
I am as white as white gets in this country. I am of northern European heritage and I was raised in North Dakota, one of the whitest states in the country. I grew up in a virtually all-white world surrounded by racism, both personal and institutional. Because I didn't live near a reservation, I didn't even have exposure to the state's only numerically significant non-white population, American Indians.
I have struggled to resist that racist training and the ongoing racism of my culture. I like to think I have changed, even though I routinely trip over the lingering effects of that internalized racism and the institutional racism around me. But no matter how much I "fix" myself, one thing never changes--I walk through the world with white privilege.
What does that mean? Perhaps most importantly, when I seek admission to a university, apply for a job, or hunt for an apartment, I don't look threatening. Almost all of the people evaluating me for those things look like me--they are white. They see in me a reflection of themselves, and in a racist world that is an advantage. I smile. I am white. I am one of them. I am not dangerous. Even when I voice critical opinions, I am cut some slack. After all, I'm white.
My flaws also are more easily forgiven because I am white. Some complain that affirmative action has meant the university is saddled with mediocre minority professors. I have no doubt there are minority faculty who are mediocre, though I don't know very many. As Henry Louis Gates Jr. once pointed out, if affirmative action policies were in place for the next hundred years, it's possible that at the end of that time the university could have as many mediocre minority professors as it has mediocre white professors. That isn't meant as an insult to anyone, but is a simple observation that white privilege has meant that scores of second-rate white professors have slid through the system because their flaws were overlooked out of solidarity based on race, as well as on gender, class and ideology.
Some people resist the assertions that the United States is still a bitterly racist society and that the racism has real effects on real people. But white folks have long cut other white folks a break. I know, because I am one of them.
I am not a genius--as I like to say, I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer. I have been teaching full-time for six years, and I've published a reasonable amount of scholarship. Some of it is the unexceptional stuff one churns out to get tenure, and some of it, I would argue, actually is worth reading. I work hard, and I like to think that I'm a fairly decent teacher. Every once in awhile, I leave my office at the end of the day feeling like I really accomplished something. When I cash my paycheck, I don't feel guilty.
But, all that said, I know I did not get where I am by merit alone. I benefited from, among other things, white privilege. That doesn't mean that I don't deserve my job, or that if I weren't white I would never have gotten the job. It means simply that all through my life, I have soaked up benefits for being white. I grew up in fertile farm country taken by force from non-white indigenous people. I was educated in a well-funded, virtually all-white public school system in which I learned that white people like me made this country great. There I also was taught a variety of skills, including how to take standardized tests written by and for white people.
All my life I have been hired for jobs by white people. I was accepted for graduate school by white people. And I was hired for a teaching position at the predominantly white University of Texas, which had a white president, in a college headed by a white dean and in a department with a white chairman that at the time had one non-white tenured professor.
There certainly is individual variation in experience. Some white people have had it easier than me, probably because they came from wealthy families that gave them even more privilege. Some white people have had it tougher than me because they came from poorer families. White women face discrimination I will never know. But, in the end, white people all have drawn on white privilege somewhere in their lives.
Like anyone, I have overcome certain hardships in my life. I have worked hard to get where I am, and I work hard to stay there. But to feel good about myself and my work, I do not have to believe that "merit," as defined by white people in a white country, alone got me here. I can acknowledge that in addition to all that hard work, I got a significant boost from white privilege, which continues to protect me every day of my life from certain hardships.
At one time in my life, I would not have been able to say that, because I needed to believe that my success in life was due solely to my individual talent and effort. I saw myself as the heroic American, the rugged individualist. I was so deeply seduced by the culture's mythology that I couldn't see the fear that was binding me to those myths. Like all white Americans, I was living with the fear that maybe I didn't really deserve my success, that maybe luck and privilege had more to do with it than brains and hard work. I was afraid I wasn't heroic or rugged, that I wasn't special.
I let go of some of that fear when I realized that, indeed, I wasn't special, but that I was still me. What I do well, I still can take pride in, even when I know that the rules under which I work in are stacked in my benefit. I believe that until we let go of the fiction that people have complete control over their fate--that we can will ourselves to be anything we choose--then we will live with that fear. Yes, we should all dream big and pursue our dreams and not let anyone or anything stop us. But we all are the product both of what we will ourselves to be and what the society in which we live lets us be.
White privilege is not something I get to decide whether or not I want to keep. Every time I walk into a store at the same time as a black man and the security guard follows him and leaves me alone to shop, I am benefiting from white privilege. There is not space here to list all the ways in which white privilege plays out in our daily lives, but it is clear that I will carry this privilege with me until the day white supremacy is erased from this society.
Frankly, I don't think I will live to see that day; I am realistic about the scope of the task. However, I continue to have hope, to believe in the creative power of human beings to engage the world honestly and act morally. A first step for white people, I think, is to not be afraid to admit that we have benefited from white privilege. It doesn't mean we are frauds who have no claim to our success. It means we face a choice about what we do with our success.
244. Posted by shankyouverymuch on November 20, 2006 10:12 PM
FOR MY FAVORITE jrzmommy
I still know that you are as insane as a mad dog, but thanks for the LOVE anyway... Your mind must be a terrific place, believing in unicorns and good fairy’s... equality for all- NEVER, at least not till Jesus comes back... I bet you don’t believe that man- white man- ever landed on the moon either... XOXOXOX
245. Posted by i_like_sake on November 20, 2006 10:33 PM
Shankyou, seriously though, I've been reading some of your comments and I really want to know what you have against blacks. Usually I wouldn't give a shit about you or anyone one else for that matter but...really whats your problem?
Or are you just one of those little boys who talk shit on their little computer and when they come back to the real world is all nerdy and scared of all the "tall black guys" in your neighborhood? (if any)
246. Posted by Binky on November 20, 2006 10:53 PM
I think it's safe to say after trying out this new material he'll now be asking passers-by for 'Knock-Knock' jokes to carry his next show.
# 231 Yeah, sounds a bit less scripted than usual - but did they have 'Will It Float?'
247. Posted by LL on November 20, 2006 11:00 PM
Is it wrong that Land-Man (or fake Land-Man or whatever) is cracking my shit up? I want what he's having. He fucking crazy, but it works for him.
248. Posted by the-man-himself on November 20, 2006 11:42 PM
Now we know why he burned the puertorican flag.
249. Posted by shankyouverymuch on November 21, 2006 12:04 AM
#245
Ok i_like_sake, You want to know my feelings on this subject I’ll tell you... you write that you have read SOME of what I’ve written here... my first suggestion is to read it all... I do not have anything at all against black people... I just want truth and clarity that’s all... in my estimation I first came to a true clarity of my feelings about black people in America not too many years ago... actually, I should write that I always felt the same way, but when I heard it articulated clearly, it hit home... It was the comedian, Chris Rock, who I have to credit for this articulation... In one of his stand-ups he does a bit in which he clearly describes what he calls the “difference” between black people and niggers... this was exactly what I had always felt in a nutshell, but the fact of Rock being black and a well liked, very successful star, recognizing and articulating the same posture, was of great impact...
There are I’m sure many, many good and decent black people... do I know any of them, no... I grew up in a suburban L.A. Calif town... There were no blacks, or any other minorities for that matter anywhere to be found, it was a very sheltered place 30 years ago, no crime to speak of... Though I went to UCLA, except for the few, very few blacks, I came into contact with in my classes, I really never got to know any blacks on a very close basis...
My main perception of blacks today is that of what I see in the news, read in the papers, and get from statically analysis... for example 70% of the nearly 2 million prison inmates in America today are blacks, which correlation almost exactly with the number of black fatherless households which is about 78%! ... In my opinion that’s a disgrace... Not many in the black community, and I mean the well known leadership does anything to truly help their own people either... For the Jesse Hi-Jackson’s and Al Sharpton’s there is too much money in not helping there people for them to want to do anything... So they just let an extremely large number of the black population languish, begging for welfare from the government, stealing committing crimes, being bums in the ghetto’s of all the major cities in the US... It is sad, it also absolutely clear that it’s true... So there you have it, I hope that helped... I could go on and on, but I have to go sleepy now... BYE...
250. Posted by Leori on November 21, 2006 12:19 AM
Aaarghh Shanks my eyes! My eyes! lol
251. Posted by HolisticWisdomcom on November 21, 2006 12:19 AM
I thought his apology on David Letterman and admission that he is in rehab now, is nice, but hard to swallow after watching how outright insulting he was.
I hope he can see that he needs help, and make amends in some way.
http://www.holisticwisdom.com
252. Posted by nacho vidal on November 21, 2006 2:15 AM
whats the big deal 78% of non-black americans say nigga at home and around friends...dont act so shocked
253. Posted by ImaCracka on November 21, 2006 2:24 AM
LOL!!!! #113... you told a bunch of black people upset about the N word to... "LIGHTEN UP".... That is just way to funny.....
You made my morning......
254. Posted by BeaGass on November 21, 2006 2:32 AM
Who really cares what this guy says. As a black guy , I have other things to worry about(paying my mortage).
ould take too much time.
who the fuck are YOU kidding?
255. Posted by BeaGass on November 21, 2006 2:33 AM
wtf is with the verbose sons of bitches?
256. Posted by its me on November 21, 2006 2:38 AM
Hey #113 You just made me laugh out loud
"I hate some races and I got my reasons". PRICELESS, you utter moron.
257. Posted by BeaGass on November 21, 2006 2:50 AM
119. Posted by i_like_sake on November 20, 2006 4:15 PM ..........damn, black AND gay??
that's like a double fricken whammy.
258. Posted by Zion on November 21, 2006 3:01 AM
After all these years it still amazes me how some people still see others as a race rather than an individual. Comedians get heckled often and true people should just sit back and enjoy their "paid for" show. Repect yourself. At best going as far as Michael did shows much about HIS character.I really hate that some people won't let it go. You miss out on so much when you only see color. I have been to shows where I have gotten mad at the hecklers but never have I seen it go THAT far. He insulted ALL black people when he made the statement about the fork. That took thought and came from the heart. But "I" will show growth by saying that no matter what his nationality is I won't blame all his people for what he's said and when I talk about it at the water cooler I won't even mention that he is white--just an ignorant man.
259. Posted by benni2874 on November 21, 2006 3:07 AM
I normally dont post but I had to on this one:
Conversation between Mr. Richards and the NAACP went as follows:
Note: NAACP has a phone that releases an electrical charge that resembles a bitch slap to receiver on other end:
RING RING!
NAACP: Hello, this is NAACP HQ. What can I do for you?
Richards: Ummmmmmmm, this is Mr. Richards and (ZAAAPPP!!!) Ow! WTF was that??
NAACP: We were expecting your phone call. You have just been bitch slapped.
Rich: Okay. I deserve that. I called to apologi...
NAACP interrupting: We know. We saw it. And we wanted to say thank you.
Rich: Thank you??
NAACP: You have done in 5mins what we tried to do for 100yrs.
Rich: Whats that?
NAACP: Dont worry about it.
Rich: Okkayy...anyway I would like to make a..
NAACP interrupting: A donation?
Rich: Umm..yea.
NAACP: How much?
Rich: Mil' sound good?
NAACP: Surely you jest?
Rich: 2 mil?
NAACP: How many times did you say "nigger"
Rich: Appx 20times give or take a nigger or two.
NAACP: You just said it again! Thats 21 times
Rich: Ouch. I just cant seem to stop. So how much to make this go away?
NAACP: A mil per nigger.
Rich: Per every nigger in the world?? Thats like 100trillion dollars!! I dont have that much money!
NAACP: No you moron! 1 million for everytime time you said and will ever say nigger. Right now that tally is 21million. Do ya have that?
Rich sheepishly replies: yes.
NAACP: Good, send us a blank check then
Rich: a blank check??
NAACP: never know when you might slip up again.
Phone goes quite for a few seconds...
ZAAPPP!!
NAACP: Thats was for
Rich (interrupts): I didnt say anything!
ZAAP!!
Rich: wtf was that for??
NAACP: Interrupting me. Dont you know what happens when you interrupt a black man??
Rich: Sorry. Okay, lets get this over with. Who do I make the check out to? You know if I send you all this money, I will be broke, my kids will have to go to public schools and I will have to move into a rent controlled apartment?
NAACP: Welcome to our world nigga
click.
260. Posted by Zion on November 21, 2006 4:59 AM
In response to #249 "Shank". Look the word nigger up in the dictionary. Nowhere does it say a race of people. It seems like you've got it all figured out. It is a fact that more white people are on wellfare than blacks. We may be begging but you all got the pleasure of using it more. Please, look it up. If I only let the news be my guide I would say the bombings, mass murderers, crystal meth users, incess, suicide, date rape, child molesters, bingeing, anorexia, infidelity, homosexuality are mostly done by whites. You see I watch the news, check percentages and read the newspaper. If I judged solely on what I watched on tv or read in the newspaper I would have a one-track-mind. I travel and meet people so I won't think every white person I come in contact with is on crystal meth, can't dance, sing or play sports well. In every race there is something that people may not be proud of but that shouldn't blind you to all people. As far leaders are concerned, WE as humans have a responsiblity to ourselves. Hitler and Jim Jones were leaders too. Not taking anything from good leaders but there are other sources like books that you can get more info from. The Bible is a tool, a guide to live by but many are still going to hell. I come from a family that is successful and intelligent. Get out more before you judge all people. Oprah not only helps her people but yours too. She is one of many. Research. You said you went to college. Haven't met any decent blacks? Let me introduce myself. My name is ZION. You ARE sleepy. Now check your stats on this new info to you. Just trying to bring some more clarity as you analyze. Get out of that Cali town and see the world first hand.
261. Posted by NipsyHustle on November 21, 2006 5:22 AM
now if only we could get as involved in voting, cleaning up the environment, and other noble deeds.
people move on, there is nothing to see here. while everyone is busy rubbernecking stupid people wrangling over stupid words, elitist corporate america is fucking us ALL up the ass with a fork and laughing about. race is the one issue that manages to keep all the worker bees divided.
keep being pawns. that's the plan and you're doing a wonderful job.
262. Posted by PaisleyMoon on November 21, 2006 5:42 AM
And wtf with "owner of Nyla's Burger Basket?" Jesus, why don't we interview Bubba the hairlipped cornhole boy?
263. Posted by pyrococcus on November 21, 2006 7:15 AM
Wow, we've heard before that racism is rampant in the US, and some of these posts indicate that although "rampant" is probably an overstatement, racism is certainly still an issue. Kudos to everyone who is standing up against hate and discrimination and trying to make a difference in America. Good luck. Love, Canada
264. Posted by RichPort on November 21, 2006 7:20 AM
Wow. I just knew something about racism would provoke so much thoughtless banter. How hard was it for some of you to look at your Black co-workers this morning? How many of you Black folks wanted to smack your white co-workers?
Many of you fucking idiots keep falling for the same stupid shit. One person writes "the nigger deserved it" and every half-Black douche bag regurgitates this week's Black history lesson on the Fish. And I'm sick of you white motherfuckers screaming "what about racism against US???" Seriously people, you have lost your way. Does TCTLC or am I alone in this? There were some gems in there, but it was like trying to find diamonds in pig shit. To you white people that are just dying to scream out NIGGER, lock yourselves in a closet when no one's home, plaster the walls with pictures of rappers, Black activists, and athletes, and 'nigger' your lungs out until you feel better...
Clarifications: none of those were Jrz. Why someone would take so much time to write something reasonably thoughtful to try and discredit someone else is beyond me. I have been called her sock puppet and not she has been called my lapdog... yaaaaaaaaaawn. Get over yourselves you jealous fucks. Write something funny. The trolling is beyond pathetic at this point, but the blue writing was pretty fucking cool. 20 year olds at third -rate colleges with limited knowledge of how the world works should refrain from pontificating. I personally think Richards was trying to be funny, failed, and didn?t know how to bail himself out. Someone made that point, but I don?t feel like digging through the pig shit to give them props.
265. Posted by SumLikeitHoTT on November 21, 2006 7:31 AM
shank...just because chris rock said it doesn't mean it gives people an excuse to use the word.
"...we're not calling all black niggers, just the blacks who act like one?..."
it doesn't work that way.
And before you start making assumptions on the black race why don't you meet a few dozen or so because yes while some hang out on street corners there are also those who are businessmen on Wall Street.
It just a shame that there can't be even more successful blacks, as the government keeps good teachers and funding out of minority school districts.
P.S. in my neighborhood, which is pretty good, a few white kids ended up killing one of their classmates at a house party. no one was arrested...if that was a black party i'm sure they would have found someone to blame
266. Posted by SumLikeitHoTT on November 21, 2006 7:35 AM
*correction arrested but thanks to good lawyers, no one got sent to prison
267. Posted by jrzmommy on November 21, 2006 7:35 AM
Okay, so "my" last post was at 9:42 p.m.--and the time on this site is Pacific time. That means 12:42 a.m. on the east coast, where New Jersey is...where I am...hence the Jrz...do you guys wanna know what I was doing at 12:42 a.m. EST on 11/21? I WAS FUCKING SLEEPING BECAUSE I GET UP AT 5:30 A.M.! At least now I know the identity of my troll........it's Chatty Cathy. Thank you.
268. Posted by PrettyBaby on November 21, 2006 7:52 AM
This was the most ridiculous, stupid and horrible chain of comments ever. You turned what could have been some funny banter and light arguing into the most troll filled inane bunch of shit. NONE of you are funny or interesting.
P.S. EVERYBODY can tell the difference between trolls and real comments. You absolutely suck. Your the type of people that have no fucking courage and you hide like fucking pussies. UGH!
269. Posted by critic on November 21, 2006 8:20 AM
nevertheless the troll jrz was more thought-provoking than the real jrz, who does appear to have intact basic arithmetic skills (!)
270. Posted by 86 on November 21, 2006 8:20 AM
262 Nylas Burger Basket is the restaurant that Britney owns in Kentwood. I guess the lady who works there is a 'reputable source' because she is a friend of the family. PS wrong thread...ha :)
271. Posted by critic on November 21, 2006 8:28 AM
#268 your comments are child-like in their global nature, likewise the all-caps. please try to contribute something more adult-like in sophistication.
272. Posted by jrzmommy on November 21, 2006 8:29 AM
#269, Random Fuck.......Wow, and that post is just fucking earth-shattering, mind-blowing fucking stuff. Much like all the other things you write.......but wait, that's all you've ever written, isn't it? Hmmm......Do you understand where I'm going with this, inbred?
273. Posted by LL on November 21, 2006 8:38 AM
Apparently, I can't tell the difference between troll and not troll. Sorry for misidentifying Jrzmommy... it was much more lengthy than she usually is, but WTF...
RichPort (if that is your real name) rules, as usual.
I avoid the whole racism thing by hating everyone, regardless of creed, color, nationality, religion, etc. It just saves time.
Yes, the "white people are victims of racism too" posts were quite amusing. Maybe y'all and Michael Richards can form a support group. After he gets out of rehab, that is.
274. Posted by Italian Stallion on November 21, 2006 8:39 AM
I agree with PrettyBaby @ 268. I stayed out of this shit because of the cowards hiding behind handles. The Superficial used to be a really funny place to go when bored at work, but you motherfuckers had to ruin it. This was some of the worse shit I've ever read, and believe me, I didn't even bother reading half of it. I don't even know who is who anymore. I'm not posting anything else today, so to all the people who know me, anything else under my handle is not me. To all the coward trolls, way to ruin a good time, you fucking salad-tossing-non-funny-assholes!!!! I would love to tie you to my bumper and drive as fast as I can until your pea-brains spread like butter on the fucking interstate. I hope Karma is a real thing and you're all hit by a fucking train someday...........
275. Posted by Triumph Insult Dog on November 21, 2006 8:47 AM
WOW! Of all the things in this world to get hot about, the public is choosing Kramer.
I can't stand what he did, but I know what happens when you become or feel like a total loser. You don't care anymore!
Believe it or not, everybody in Hollywood is going nuts and it's just all coming out slowly!
If you all want to be HOT about something, talk about those people still in Iraq! Half of whom is going AWOL...
http://www.blackbeatpress.com
276. Posted by NipsyHustle on November 21, 2006 9:09 AM
#274 karma is a real thing and actually has it's own collections agency. there is alot of karmic debt out there and you can't file ch 7 on this one.
don't worry, stallion. their day is coming. very second of the day, 894 suckers are drop kicked in the face by karma. the karmic debt collectors never rest.
277. Posted by RichPort on November 21, 2006 9:13 AM
Jrz, critic, marshy, britannica... all the same fucking idiot. It has many other names, but usually employs ours. It's also as smooth as a Ken doll down south, hence its anger.
LL, that was the real me. Trolls annoy the shit out of me like rancid hot sauce.
278. Posted by RichPort on November 21, 2006 9:14 AM
Of course Jrz is not the same as critic or marshy... stupid fat fingers!!!
279. Posted by ? on November 21, 2006 9:29 AM
damn, can't read the last few comments, my monitor's all fogged up with their tears. clearly fish's weenie-boy filter has failed again. wipe your tears, put on a fresh pair of panties (esp you Richie), and try to get through the day as best you can.
280. Posted by RichPort on November 21, 2006 9:33 AM
Oh, apparently ? is marshy as well. I would tell you to suck my cock, but you might say yes... moron. Richie? Only your mom calls me that, but usually after I've grabbed her by the throat and made a deposit in her fucking mouth.
281. Posted by Spindoc on November 21, 2006 9:57 AM
Maybe those two guys in the audience thought they were at the movies and were just yelling at the screen.
P.S. Tom Cruise doesn't like Sugar Titts.
282. Posted by ? on November 21, 2006 9:59 AM
wait, let me try to think of a comeback...ummm...ummm...sorry, my memory for the playground language i used in third grade just isn't very good. kudos to you, though - what is it, ginkgo supplements or just a developmental fixation point?
and let's be fair - last night it was a jrz-upgrade, not jrz-troll. she works better as an open construct than as an actual identity.
283. Posted by whackjob on November 21, 2006 10:07 AM
just wanted to be 283rd in a thread that I'll never read.
...so what is the longest thread in fish history and what important subject was it about?
bet it had something to do with trolls and fucktards.
happy thoughts, wj.
284. Posted by jrzmommy on November 21, 2006 10:11 AM
*clap...........clap..........clap......clap*
thanks, #282, for that completely incoherent display of syntax diarrhea.
285. Posted by RichPort on November 21, 2006 10:12 AM
#282 - (crickets)
286. Posted by PrettyBaby on November 21, 2006 10:40 AM
@271 Okay, maybe it is childlike to think that you (Troller) can have some fucking integrity. I have no problem with that. I know that I post under my real handle and that I don't hide like a bitch.
P.S. Before you criticize my use of ALL CAPS to EMPHASIZE, learn how to use correct punctuation. And you know what else, get the fuck off of here. Find yourself a site that caters to bitch-ass pussies.
(CHILDLIKE TIRADE ENDS)
287. Posted by PrettyBaby on November 21, 2006 10:41 AM
#282 (deafening silence)
288. Posted by ? on November 21, 2006 11:03 AM
i love how people post comments as "silence". you posted the comment, you responded, you lose. you know the rules perfectly well - i'm just trying to get an antagonized response out of you folks (i'm just making shit up, i dont' care about the content), no matter how many times you say to yourselves "don't feed the trolls." today it's just too easy. and jrzdummy, that bit was over your head - if there was anything to disagree with, it was the semantics, not the syntax.
289. Posted by PrettyBaby on November 21, 2006 11:09 AM
#288 (SILENCE)
290. Posted by jrzmommy on November 21, 2006 11:17 AM
No, mystery retard, syntax is correct... because your post was merely an arrangement of words. There certainly wasn't enough rational and lucid content there to qualify as semantics Now, this... right here....what we're doing, Webster, is arguing over semantics. Now fuck off.
291. Posted by NipsyHustle on November 21, 2006 11:39 AM
if we break 300 is this a superfish record?
292. Posted by ? on November 21, 2006 11:44 AM
let's just say it's a problem in semantic decoding, and leave it at that. otherwise your pretty little head will begin to feel like it has an ouchie (you understood that, right, 'mommy'?).
293. Posted by PrettyBaby on November 21, 2006 11:45 AM
#288, You know what? You have given my childlike mind a great idea!! I say-- Feed the Trolls! If it's attention you want, then you'll get it. I don't give a fuck, I can dish it out for ya.
294. Posted by RichPort on November 21, 2006 11:46 AM
If that's the troll's game, let's stop feeding it. Now. No more comments, ok?
295. Posted by jrzmommy on November 21, 2006 11:47 AM
I'm in.
296. Posted by PrettyBaby on November 21, 2006 11:48 AM
I really do hate trolls, especially this one.
297. Posted by RichPort on November 21, 2006 11:48 AM
FUCK!
298. Posted by PrettyBaby on November 21, 2006 11:50 AM
#292 Some of PrettyBaby's childish wisdom for you-- Ready? Okay,
If you have to work soooo hard to try to convince people that you are a fucking genius....then....you probably aren't. It is fabulous to use big words and to be so desperate as to banter them back and forth.
Yes, you are probably smarter than me and I know jrz is, just by her comments, but WHO gives a fuck?! At the end of the day, does it make you better, funnier, a nicer person,do you get laid more or are ya just a pain in the ass.
Wanna impress people, tell us how you feel about K-FED! It's a celebrity website, that's it, GENIUS.
299. Posted by PrettyBaby on November 21, 2006 11:51 AM
#296 Be more clever, come on now!
300. Posted by NipsyHustle on November 21, 2006 11:55 AM
300 bitches!!!! happy 300! now get back to work!
301. Posted by RichPort on November 21, 2006 11:55 AM
This fucking moron spends how much time logging in and out?
294. Posted by RichPort on November 21, 2006 11:46 AM
If that's the troll's game, let's stop feeding it. Now. No more comments, ok?
Seriously, he must wack his willy everytime he comes up with gems like that. A chin full of cum and a chafed dick... that's what I think ? is all about.
302. Posted by jrzmommy on November 21, 2006 12:05 PM
I didn't post "I'm in."
303. Posted by PrettyBaby on November 21, 2006 12:05 PM
#301 I try and try to advise this troller and he/she isn't gettin it. I laughed when I read that "If that's the troll's game, let's stop feeding it. Now. No more comments, ok?" He or she is very desperate to "win" some kind of battle or something that he's waging. So stupid and lame.
304. Posted by RichPort on November 21, 2006 12:11 PM
The funny thing is, I think ? is starting to actually argue with himself... posting entire threads all on his own. What's the matter marshy? Afraid to come out? I get it... you'll be ok... nothing a sniper rifle and a little time can't solve. Pussy.
305. Posted by dictionary on November 21, 2006 12:11 PM
PrettyBaby, noun; see "follower"
fol‧low‧er - noun
1. a person or thing that follows.
2. a person who follows another in regard to his or her ideas or belief; disciple or adherent.
3. a person who imitates, copies, or takes as a model or ideal: She was little more than a follower of the regular commenters.
306. Posted by PrettyBaby on November 21, 2006 12:16 PM
#305 Fuck, you got me completely nailed! A follower! That is what I am. Thanks so much for helping me. You are now my leader. I will follow you into the bedroom immediately.
YOU picked on me first. I am a lover, not a fighter. But I will fight if I have to.
Besides, I think people on this site can handle themselves just fine.
307. Posted by jrzmommy on November 21, 2006 12:17 PM
This is what happens when the fucking nutjobs of the world go off their meds.
308. Posted by RichPort on November 21, 2006 12:23 PM
It's for reasons like this that parents should never buy PCs for their kids, and computers in general should cost $3000, just to discourage the douche bags.
309. Posted by ? on November 21, 2006 12:30 PM
more more more please MORE!!! this is the most continuous action - by far - that i've ever stirred up! just one more comment about me, by anybody, PLEASE - i'm about to cum!!! (but rich, you gotta try out something new and original, all the stuff about moms and dicks and snipers, you've said that over and over again, you're in a serious rut. try to write a novel, have an affair, whatever it takes to get recharged. i'm worried about you, man.)
310. Posted by Apfelmilch on November 21, 2006 12:39 PM
Is it just me or did he seem like a man on a MASSIVE amount of coke?
Yeah, I think so.
311. Posted by PrettyBaby on November 21, 2006 12:39 PM
#309 Your just being silly now. Can't you engage in a normal conversation? Is there something the matter with you, huh? I don't care, I am waiting for a purchase agreement here at work so I have lots of time for you. You've insulted me by calling me a Childlike Follower so you got all my attention, now. I'm sure the rest will drop ya though.
312. Posted by ? on November 21, 2006 12:45 PM
YES!!! YES!!! YES!!! YEEEESSSSSS!!!
what a release. thank you, PrettyBaby. although not likely a rare event, skeeting on you was nonetheless an unexpected pleasure for me on a slow workday. here's a kleenex.
313. Posted by PrettyBaby on November 21, 2006 12:48 PM
#312 Ewwwwww..
I have a date tonight, but apparently I have to shower first before I see him, nice.
314. Posted by PrettyBaby on November 21, 2006 1:07 PM
#312 Are ya done Darlin?? Good, then you got owned. All that trouble you made on this thread and you got owned by a childlike girl who loves to follow.
*Jumps up and down*
I'm out!
Love Always, PrettyBaby
315. Posted by NipsyHustle on November 21, 2006 1:10 PM
#315
how high can we go?
316. Posted by NipsyHustle on November 21, 2006 2:24 PM
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Oh lord, kumbaya
Someones singing lord, kumbaya
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Oh lord, kumbayah
Someones laughing, lord, kumbaya
Someones laughing, lord, kumbaya
Someones laughing, lord, kumbaya
Oh lord, kumbaya
Someones crying, lord, kumbaya
Someones crying, lord, kumbaya
Someones crying, lord, kumbaya
Oh lord, kumbaya
Someones praying, lord, kumbaya
Someones praying, lord, kumbaya
Someones praying, lord, kumbaya
Oh lord, kumbaya
Someones sleeping, lord, kumbaya
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Someones sleeping, lord, kumbaya
Oh lord, kumbaya
Oh lord, kumbaya
317. Posted by DrunkBlogger on November 21, 2006 10:45 PM
Unbelievable.
318. Posted by DrunkBlogger on November 21, 2006 10:48 PM
The only things I'm going to say, and this doesn't justify it at all, what he said was fucked up and wrong...but...just like #8 was saying.
What if this was a black comedian on stage, repeatedly calling a white heckler a honky? Nothing. That's what.
That being said, it was totally fucked up what he did, I'm not at all defending him, but I think this country needs to realize that racism completely exists, for everybody, especially in LA.
319. Posted by RichPort on November 22, 2006 7:02 AM
write a novel, have an affair, whatever it takes to get recharged
Comic gold!!!!
320. Posted by jFp on November 22, 2006 8:41 AM
Here's what I think about this whole situation. Don't care.
People slamming each other. Don't care.
M.Richards rage. Don't care.
Blacks offended. Don't care.
Whites offended. Don't care.
Name calling. Don't care.
Do-gooder rage. Don't care.
Bridge building. Don't care.
Bridge burning. Don't care.
Caring. Don't care.
Not caring. Don't care.
Life can be sweet when you let the crap just blow over.
If this bothers any of you.....guess what.
321. Posted by Pragmatist21 on November 22, 2006 10:36 PM
The Black men in the audience should have had the manners to keep their big, fucking mouths shut during the show. What kind of person interrupts an entertainer in the middle of his act by heckling him? What respectful human being does that? Were they not asking for some type of retribution??? Granted Richards, who was obviously very frustrated and flustered by the hecklers, and went overboard, but the hecklers were just a racist as Richards. Calling Richards a "Fucking Cracker" after he responded to something they started? Is the term "Fucking Cracker" not also racist? Let's not be hyporcrites here.
322. Posted by Pragmatist21 on November 22, 2006 11:14 PM
To all of the references in the string that more whites recieve welfare than blacks in this country. That is True. Government statistics on Welfare show that 38.8% or recipients are White and 37.2% are black. What they failed to mention is that Whites comprise of about 52% of the population, but blacks only make up 12%. That basically means that blacks are 4 times more likely to be on welfare than whites. The reasons for that are socioeconomic. There is a pretty strong correlation in this country between education and income, and despite the numerous minority scholarships and other advantages like affirmative action and college minority quotes, blacks still lag behind whites when it comes to education and income. I think that's very unfortunate for the country as a whole. I think the black community needs to stop listening to the jesse jacksons and al sharptons of the world and stop looking outside of itself for reasons why it isn't acheiving economic parity with whites. The black community needs to stop making excuses and start looking inward at family values and ethics as the solution to their problem. Rappers and Basketball players aren't good role models for young people who want to acheive financial security. The economic success of whites has s nothing to do with this so called "white advantage". What about asians who come to this country and can't even speak the fucking language. They outperform everyone in acedemics and are beginning to surpass everyone in average income as well. Why do they succeed???? Hard work,respect education, and appreciation for the opportunities that this great country offers. That's why. I work with successful people of all races and they all have these qualities.
323. Posted by HELLpenis on November 23, 2006 3:02 PM
Who gives a shit. Black people are racist all the time, including this incident. Calling someone a fucking cracker isn't racist? I don't see those hecklers or any of the "black community leader" scumbags apologizing for their racism against whites. Fuck them.
Michael Richards sucks. He sucked before this incident and he will continue to suck.
324. Posted by Nick Esola on November 23, 2006 7:59 PM
He made a mistake. He's a little insecure. Who wouldn't be feeling inadequate when you're trying to live up to one of the most beloved characters of comedy of all time.
When you respond to hate with more hate... then how will any good come of it?
I forgive Michael Richards, just as I have forgiven myself for doing horrible things.
325. Posted by Beloved on November 25, 2006 9:53 AM
Hello, this is my first time. Be gentle with me. Since this incident I have heard many say that black comedians use the word and there is no backlash. Here is the difference. The way Richards used the word brought forth images that although we want to forget, we cannot and should not. Black women raped and their men know of it and can do nothing. Men lynched for looking at a white woman or speaking disrespectfully to a white person, which Richards commented on. This history is not the distant past. Although not in my lifetime, in my parents. This is the difference. There is nothing that can justify joking about lynching. Has history been forgottne this soon? It does not matter where the taping began, nothing justifies the use of lynching as a joke the way Richards did. I have to admit he must be in emotional pain because only a wounded person would react as he did. Hurting people hurt people, but America needs to learn to dialogue with each other. Blacks need to be able to voice how slavery and its aftermath, the aftermath just as harmful, hurt them and whites need to learn not to take it personal. This is how you heal. Communication. Dreamland, huh?
326. Posted by richinpa on November 25, 2006 4:41 PM
Give me break. The over-use of the n-word in our society has been perpetuated by none other than the people who are offended by it. Hip Hop music has desensitized Americas shock value of the use of the n-word. Black youths in the hip hop industry today have referred to each other more times as nigger than the white men that have imprisoned them through the years. The hip hop, gang banging, woman degradation, has reached epidemic proportion amongst the youth of our society. There has been no race untouched buy it’s poison.
Don’t get me wrong, Michael Richards’s reaction was over the edge. He lost total control and is going to pay the ultimate price. He’ll be lucky to get a job parking cars at the local Hilton.
But let’s not forget the true heros of this whole thing. The African American audience members that felt the need to heckle Richards in the first place. What morons! Congratulations on reinforcing Americas stereotype of African American male youths as being obnoxious, rude, and showing no respect to people who go to public venues.
Oh yeah, and your racist use of the cracker ass mother----r on the way out the door is a textbook case of the hypocrisy in our society. Your racist remark will soon be forgotten unlike Michael Richards who will pay the ultimate price. I also hear you’re going to defend your case with Al Sharpton. That’s about the equivalent of Michael Richards pleading his case to William Joseph Simmons.
As a matter of fact I wouldn’t be surprised if you get a few million. (bling-bling) So let me know how you make out. If all goes well maybe I can heckle Chris Rock or Sinbad at their next standup. If I’m lucky maybe I can get one of them to call me a cracker-ass mother----r, hire a scumbag lawyer and retire early. Ahhhhhhh yes! Only in America.
327. Posted by hu08 on November 25, 2006 6:43 PM
-yo kramer needs to be glad he pulled that shit in hollywood because had it gone down in new york he'd be hangin upside down with a fork in his ass.
-holla
328. Posted by Beloved on November 25, 2006 9:55 PM
#326 perhaps you need to read more black history and learn who really made the word "nigger" what it is today? It certainly was alive and well before hip hop came into existence.
329. Posted by flo4blu on November 26, 2006 7:44 PM
Here is a bit of History for you.
The word nigger was a shorthand way of saying that blacks possessed the moral, intellectual, social, and physical characteristics of the Coon, Brute, Tom, Mammy, and other racial caricatures.
The etymology of nigger is often traced to the Latin niger, meaning black.
portrays blacks as lazy, ignorant, and obsessively self-indulgent; these are also traits historically represented by the word nigger, or as angry, physically strong, animalistic, and prone to wanton violence. This depiction is also implied in the word nigger. Whatever its origins, by the early 1800s it was firmly established as a denigrative epithet. Almost two centuries later, it remains a chief symbol of white racism.
The word nigger carries with it much of the hatred and repulsion directed toward Africans and African Americans. Historically, nigger defined, limited, and mocked African Americans. It was a term of exclusion, a verbal justification for discrimination. Whether used as a noun, verb, or adjective, it reinforced the stereotype of the lazy, stupid, dirty, worthless parasite. No other American ethnophaulism carried so much purposeful venom, as the following representative list suggests:
Nigger, v. To wear out, spoil or destroy.
Niggerish, adj. Acting in an indolent and irresponsible manner.
Niggerlipping, v. Wetting the end of a cigarette while smoking it.
Niggerlover, n. Derogatory term aimed at whites lacking in the necessary loathing of blacks.
Nigger luck, n. Exceptionally good luck, emphasis on undeserved.
Nigger-flicker, n. A small knife or razor with one side heavily taped to preserve the user's fingers.
Nigger heaven, n. a designated place, usually the balcony, where blacks were forced to sit, for example, in an integrated movie theater or church.
Nigger knocker, n. axe handle or weapon made from an axe handle.
Nigger rich, adj, Deeply in debt but ostentatious.
Nigger shooter, n. A slingshot.
Nigger steak, n. a slice of liver or a cheap piece of meat.
Nigger stick, n. police officer's baton.
Nigger tip, n. leaving a small tip or no tip in a restaurant.
Nigger in the woodpile, n. a concealed motive or unknown factor affecting a situation in an adverse way.
Nigger work, n. Demeaning, menial tasks.5
http://www.ferris.edu/jimcrow/caricature/
So, all should be careful when using a word that had such a long a dark history!