Jun 16 2006Jay-Z doesn't support racists

Boo-friggity hoo.

jayz also refuses to use mrs. buttersworth...

Who WOULDN'T want to be associated with ho-slapping, misogynistic thugs?

Playing the race card I see. The guy said nothing of the like either. You'd figure a black guy [* gasp * I didn't say African-American] of his status had better things to do.

I guess when you're from the school of hardknocks, you can't let these punk-bitches get rich like you did.

Damn, back to $6 a bottle Scrumpy's cider then :(

Jay needs to get a grip. The racist in question is French, and the French hate everybody.

#1 LOL!! And on point.

The damn managing director meant it just the way Jay took it, and it doesn't mean a damn thing because Cristal doesn't need the hip hop culture to become rich(er).

This is racist? I must be more tired than I thought...

#7, you're right, Cristal will still make money anyways

Didn't Cristal sponsor an after-party for one of Busta Rhymes' concerts fairly recently?

That guy is still a pompous ass.

Yeah, what the nigga said. Wurd.

#10-I agree, I guess he thinks Cristal should be thanking him for the free advertising.

#6 - Exactly, Jay-Z is the one discriminating. Against homosexuals.

oh dear. what is the 'hip hop community' going to sing about now?

I can't wait to see the Pretty Woman scene where Jay-Z walks back into the Cristal store with huge bags full of hundreds of bottles of other high-end champagnes. "You made a big mistake! BIG! HUGE!!" Oh, I make myself LOL. It would be especially funny if he had on that hooker dress with the hole inthe midriff. Uh-oh. I just SOM.

So I guess this means Alize is back on the menu?

And don't get me wrong, I'm annoyed by the French as much as anybody but if Jay-Z had actually read the article, and I highly doubt he did since it was printed in The Economist and not Ho-Slapping Monthly Magazine, he would know that Frédéric Rouzaud wasn't being racist. He was simply lamenting on the "hip hop" culture's lack of appreciation for fine champagne. In "Hard Knock Life" Jay-Z himself raps "Let’s sip the Cris and get pissy-pissy" and call me crazy but I'm pretty sure that's not what the champagne makers had in mind when they set out to develop the world's most prestigious cuvee at $600 a pop.

I, personally, am a big fan of Almondage.

Issuing statements of disapproval with Executive Managing Directors of sparkling wine companies. So street.

It rains champagne!
A son was born again!
A genius untamed!
A life of wealth and fame, wealth and fame!
Champagne flowing down just like rain,
Caviar breakfasts every day.
Merchant banks and yachts and ...
Servants and cars and private sand.

CRIS-TAL doesn't like BLACK PEOPLE! P. get a grip on yourself, Frederic Rouzaud was referring to Parasite Hilton.

You know, as a person of mixed raced, I have to agree with that Chris Rock bit, there's black people and then there's NIGGEZ, I fucking hate everything that gets caught up in that "gangsta "bling bling" bullshit. I will not purchase anything these people seem to like I and will automatically stop endorsing anything that I already like that they start sporting around. The idea is to get out of the ghetto (or make it better) mutherfuckers not turn everything, ghetto.

@ #20...OOPS, I didn't mean P. I meant Jay-Z. All these names that are only letters confuse me. Sorry Diddy

oh btw whats with his lips? they look weird; he looks buck-toothed.

Give it a rest, JayZ...the hip hop community has repeatedly demonstrated that they only care about the status of any given luxury name brand du jour. Cristal is better off without such dumbass conspicuous consumers. I'm sure race had little or nothing to do with the publicized statements from Cristal, and a lot more to do with the perceived cheapening of their brand by a consumer constituency so clearly disinterested in the actual substantative value of this or any finely crafted product.

Assume that Cristal is racist and doesn't want hip-hoppers drinking it. Isn't JayZ just giving that guy what he wants? Moron.

Personally, I hate all "nigga-rich" people who burn through their money like douchebags on crap like Cristal. If I were Bill Gates, I wouldn't spend $1 on Cristal or any other pretentious piss water.

What brand *would* want to be associated with hip-hop? Please.

Is the baggy pants era over yet? Please??

P.S. Cristal is totally overrated anyway--it's just an easier name to pronounce than many of its more worthy competitors (wrap your buck teeth around "Billecart-Salmon Brut Rose", JDog.....)

what chu talk'en bout willis?

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LOL! I love the $5 of almond champagne at Trader Joe's. YUMMY!

19
Right on, B-Slim!!!

22

"I was bohn wif big gums.."

28
*bottle* Dumbass.

Heaven forbid people comment on the behavior of rappers and thugs. God knows they play such an important role in society.

Cristal have rightfully recognized they don't want their product to be blighted by a bunch of no talent/class tacky pricks. Rap and Hip Hop suck ass.

Jay-Z is clearly just trying to equalize our country through mindless, albeit hilarious acts of bringing people together. Cough the CO-ED bathrooms at 4040 club..

Well I applaud JayZ for his boycott. People dont realize the buying power of the hip hop community. From clothing to ringtones, hip hop sells. And as much as people criticize rap, its mostly little suburban white kids who buy the stuff. Anyway, rappers shouldnt endorse this stuff without getting paid first.

I refuse to drink Cristal as well. From now on it's nothing but kerosene and Sterno for me. Fuck the establishment!

RJ Reynolds wants to distance itself from Jay-Z & Co., but Jay-Z looks just like Joe Camel. What are they supposed to do?

But here's the question: who's better, white people or black people?
Ready? ... Go!

I have a statement for AP as well:

"It has come to my attention that Jay-Z is a cock-master."

...personally
...i'd love to take them down :)

they are french

for fucks sake

why shouldn't we
just pit one
against
the other

lol bitches :)

thanks jay-z
fuckin brilliant idea :)

Osh - obviously whities are better. Remember my (very) previous post where I explained that black angels are actually bats? That and we only wear our slippers around the house - not to the store or dinner or church or whatever.

I hate people that walk around with a chip on their shoulder assuming everything in life is about racism. It's tired.

Have they ever stopped to consider that maybe people hate them because they're paranoid annoying asstubes, and not because they have darker skin?

JayZ is nouveau riche trash, and it has nothing to do with his level of melatonin.

Jay-Z has far more pressing problems that need to be addressed ASAP. I don't even know where to begin; he's like the missing link.

I honestly think the best route is to quote my 5-year old daughter, upon seeing a photo of Beyonce and Jay-Z: "Oooh, mommy, who's that gorgeous woman?" That's Beyonce, honey. " Eewwww, mommy, mommy!!" What??? "Who's that yucky old guy next to her????"

She was literally almost in tears.

But black men have large penises and white men can't jump.

Discuss!

I find hip hop racist, sexist, and it glorifies violence and crime. That's why I boycott hip hop CDs. Not because it is the lamest expression of music since polka. Not because the "artists" are so talentless that they need to loop existing music or create whole new words to make ryhmes (fo' shizzle). Not because every song is about being a "gangsta" in "da club" with "yo bitches" drinking "Cristal" and driving a "tight whip" (expensive automobile). Jay-Z is a musician, right, like Gallagher is a philosopher. If you handed Jigga a guitar all he'd know what to do with it is hock it. Suffice to say, I get Cristal's managing director's POV. Just like Tommy "bitch slapped Axl" Hilfiger got in trouble for telling Oprah he didn't design his duds for rappers, it is understandable. If you created a product, was proud of said product, would you want Lil' John spilling it all over the place? I think not.

UNWASHEDMASSES sounds like a bitter, boring old white guy who likes to shake his fist at children as they walk in front of his house.
"Turn off that rap crap!"
"Mister, we're not playing any music!"
"I said turn it off, with all that 'slimming shady' and 'snoopidy doo dog' whatzit. Can't make heads or tails of that crazy jungle noise, you damn kids with your negro hibbity flibbity... (mumbles turning incomprehensible)"

#46 that, I truly *did* laugh out loud at. You're one funny bitch.

45
I'm with you. Most of the lyrics are so laughable. I'm a mother fuckin' P-I-M-P? I thought those "spelling" songs were for preschool. You know, B-I-N-G-O was his name-o.

46
Yes, that WAS funny.

I think Jay Z is on point with this one. Anyone willing to stick it to the all too willing to surrender French is fine by me.
Sure he looks like Joe Camel and yes he takes an unfair share of oxygen with every inhalation. He has done as much exploiting of all things exploitable as any other movie mogul or TV producer douche bag out there. Funny thing is, Cristal sales will drop and the next big product line will once again be promoted rappers.

Don't talk to me you ignorant nose-monster. People that vehemently hate rap music are either A) boring B) very old or C) skinheads. It's a fact.
I'm guessing you're A.

Disliking talentless douchebags that promote an idiotic thug culture doesn't make you a racist. That just means you still have a soul and some sense of human decency.

In fact, hating someone because theyre black isn't racist, it's technically just being a bigot. Being racist means you do something outward to a member(s) of another race; job discrimination, kick in the balls, etc.

Now selling $200 bottles of swill to morons with too much money to burn is either morally repugnant or amazingly brilliant. I can't decide which. Depends on if they're just doing it "ironically" or not.

In summation, the world would be better off if both these spoiled fucks were to get sucked into time/space vortexes and be erased from history.

Or at least eaten alive by wombats or something.

51

I have no idea why you suddenly hate me so much, so sorry for complimenting your post. I'll make a note to not do it again.

When the hip hop culture embraces my Pabst Blue Ribbon I'm totally boycotting it and switching to Schlitz...because I don't want to be associated with those people. And when I say "those people" I mean coloreds.

Of course if Hip Hop were to go away, what would you all be listening to at the club? Cher? MADONNA???? Or worse... POROUS HILTON??? Jay Z also promoted Heineken, but we all know those Dutch fucks are brainless green-obsessed Eurotrash. And most of us drink Heineken, unless of course you're from the south, then it's probably a nice cold Bud Light.
All music people of every genre, those regarded as 'real' musicians because they can play or sing and those who only rhyme, have been destructive and weird. Why single out rappers? Yea, most of the music is nonsensical, but name one genre that's solid straight through?

White people smell like wet dog and black people eat watermelons all day.

Discuss!

#52 "In fact, hating someone because theyre black isn't racist, it's technically just being a bigot."

Ummm. I'm fairly certain hating people because of their race does, in fact, qualify as racism. Unless you're in Alabama. Then it's called Christian values.

Jay Z is a joke. He thinks he is some mogul because he rapped himself into a fortune. Now he walks around like J. Paul Ghetto and uses whatever opportunity he can to make it seem like he is still down with his street thug homies. My guess is the Cristal will be flowing at his next party without a second thought.

I am boycotting FUBU. And those things that make cars bounce up and down.

ok . . . first, "oshkosh" is just plain old weird.

second, #42, otherwise known as HollyJ -- I think you probably meant "melanin", not "melatonin". One makes him black, the other puts him to sleep, probably after boinking his beautiful "bee" for like, 5 hours . . . cause he likes "girls girls girls" . . . whatever, I digress. Point is, they ain't the same thing. Course, if he were a reptile, melatonin WOULD make him darker, but I'm going to go out on a limb here and say he's not.

Osh - In brief defense of myself, I am not old or crotchety. I just have taste. I am also a guitarist/bass player who has some sense of music other than downloading. If you think P-Diddy apeing Led Zep or Sting is legitimate music, more power to you. If you like listening to lyrics that are barely decipherable, good for you. I guess I just demand more for my entertainment, but to each his own. Quoth Lil' Jon, "What??? Heyyyyyyyyyy!"

I <3 Osh.

I could care less about a boycott. Cristal? I can get a buzz off one bottle of Miller Lite.

I liked rap much better when they were drinking 40oz's of Colt 45. These rapper now days are a bunch of fucking pussies!

I have to agree. I always felt especially classy after my 3rd 40oz of Private Stock. Of course it was always a zig-zagged struggle walking from point A to point B. And malt liquor muscles are a lot stronger than beer muscles...

#59: Those "things" would be my Land-balls.

i had the same "rap is crap" stupid ignorant mentality when i was a14 year old poseur. whoever says rap is shit has never heard anything by the beastie boys, run dmc, krs one, etc etc.

you lumping all rap and hip hop together is like me lumping led zepplin together with fall out boy or sum 41.

cracka

#65 OK, FUBU, Landballs, and subwoofers. I'm boycotting all of them. And whatever line of clothing that Poop Doody is selling now. They'll never get another red cent out of this white boy!

Wonder what Beyonce thought when she went down to the wine cellar and her beloved Cristal was trashed.

UNWASHEDMASSES, I have had this debate with many an old, crotchety guitarist/bass player such as yourself in my day. I know you hate all that crazy noise they play on the radio nowadays, but have you considered that what you hear on the radio as you're passing by whatever top 40 station on your way to Big Dawg 105.2 to hear the same Stones or Warrant song over and over and over again, that maybe that doesn't represent the entire genre of rap/ hip hop? Maybe there's some that you haven't heard that might actually be enjoyable to you. Since you have some sense of music you are probably aware that the rock/ blues you most likely are into stems from black blues and soul which originated from the poor, black musicians who used minimalist instruments, even as sparse as a string nailed to a wall or a pair of spoons - which generated the blues that insired Led Zepplin - just like rap musicians use minimalist beats from computers/ turntables. It's the same principle. Just because you don't like some of the apples you tried doesn't mean they're all rotten, and you don't have to go around shoving your oranges in peoples' mouths.

yeah and fuck the stones. they stole their most popular hit from Otis Redding. do your homework.

PS *inspired

An Escalade, bling bling on ebay, a bottle of Cristal, a moto, a couple of bee-yatches... why not?

Someone is a little too sensitive. We must remember that racism is disliking someone because of the color of their skin. The guy didn't say anything like that.

He really must no know what African American people have suffered to think that was raciest. Tell this to Martin Luther King, and the major sacrifice he gave, tell it to Rosa Parks, who they wouldn't let sit on a bus and countless others who couldn't drink, eat, or shop in the same places as other people.

This was not raciest, I'm boycotting Jay-z.

raciest. you stooopid. lol

Somebody give #73 some crayons and a circle of paper so we can have grown-up time.

Jay-Z is gonna have to find a new beverage to pour all over the hos. Damn shame, kid.

UNWASHED, You've had some really entertaining things to say, but I have to disagree with you on this one. Just because Diddy stole a Police song doesn't mean that all of hip-hop sucks. What about Outkast, Tribe Called Quest, the Roots? Not to mention that even Jay-Z, Biggie, Snoop & Ice Cube have had some truly good songs out there. I'm a music snob too, but I don't write off entire genres just because of a few bad songs. Except for country. I hate that shit.

#73 You should join my boycott against FUBU, Landballs, subwoofers, and those shiny chrome wheels that keep spinning when the bouncing car stops. I'm NEVER buying those again.

y'all are trippin. Practically every rapper out there either mentions Cristal in their music, and they all drink that shit at their events. Believe me, that guys gonna be wishing he didn't say that if all them rappers boycott

Er, I meant to say what 69 wrote. Yeah!

Libraesque on June 16, 2006 04:53 PM

y'all are trippin. Practically every rapper out there either mentions Cristal in their music, and they all drink that shit at their events. Believe me, that guys gonna be wishing he didn't say that if all them rappers boycott

yeah, i agree, Libraesque. its the SAME thing with louis viutton, and lil kim cant pronounce Lacroix.....UM, LaKuah! not La croy!!!!!!!!! i cant WAIT to see them boycott those!!!!!

My dad, who is a 61 year-old white dork, has a FUBU hat that he's had for years. He wears it every winter. White people are cool.

I'm not racist... I would have marched on Selma if it was in Malibu.

I can tell there is nothing but a bunch of white idiotic assholes on here right now,yall bitches don't know nothing about rap nowadays,talk what you know,not what you think about blacks,and they say racism is dead.......CRACKERS

yeah, the majority of hip-hop artists are black, but I think the Cristal managment would also frown on an association with Eminem or Vanilla Ice...

#81 You should get your dad to join our boycott! Remember, it's FUBU, Landballs (they make cars bounce), subwoofers, those shiny chrome wheels that keep spinning when the bouncing car stops, and CZ earrings of at least 1.5 carats. Together we can bring about nonviolent social change!!!!

goldie-lockz...

You complain of racism, but you call people crackers?

It seams to me you are the racist.

I had never even heard of Cristal until rappers made it popular. I hope they lose a ton of money--since when does a CEO care who's paying the bills? Snotty bastard.

I can't believe you people this this is racist...

You need to read a history book.

That is the thing that is so ridiculous about all this. People are using the word "Racist" in ways which are totally incorrect. The head of Crystal apparently doesn't like the fact that people are ordering it in restaurants with no glasses and drinking it straight from the bottle or using a straw. "Think I'm kidding? Go out to any high end club in NYC and you'll see it" it isn't racist for him to say something like he isn't happy with his Champagne's association with rappers who sing about bitches, Ho's, theft, rape etc... It would be racist if he said "I don't want black people drinking our product"

Jay Z needs to stop being so f-ing ignorant.

I'll still drink it, no boycott here... not over some over-sensitive ninny.

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#84, goldie-lockz...We don't dislike you becuase of your race....It's because you are stupid...oh and one more thing. Try to be a little less obvious that you are white, it would make your comment way more effective.

But don't worry, I hear Tom Cruise likes Wigger Cock too.

Sooooo, anyways....

White people don't use washcloths and black people eat babies.

Discuss!

I'm boycotting babies!!!

BananaNutJob, You're not old enough to drink. Which is strange, because you come across as being hammered all the time.

Jay-Z is a moron who lucked out and made a fortune on braindead rhymes about material objects. He's lucky he can afford Cristal when you think about how much talent it takes to produce a rap record.

As far as Cristal, I see homeless vagrants, black and white, drinking the stuff like water every day on the streets of the great queer city of San Francisco. You can see it well documented on tenderloin.net

Osh - I love how you insinuate my distaste for hip hop has something to do with racism. I know all about the blues, and the enormous contribution African-Americans have made to rock and roll. Would you call me racist if I prefer vanilla to chocolate? I don't care for hip hop. It has nothing to do with my age, my race, or my exposure to differing music styles. Do some research. The reason why hip hop is jammed down our throats is because the artists are easily controlled by the record labels (much like the Do-Wop groups of the 50's). An actual artist, one who writes and produces their own music, is less likely to be led. Spin magazine had an article wherein Alternative/Rock sales were up 68% and Rap/Hip Hop down 36%, but do you see that reflected on the radio or MTV? I don't doubt there are legitimate, talented individuals working in rap/hip hop today. And I don't begrudge someone who enjoys their work. And considering your posts I be careful advising people not to shove oranges in other's mouths. You incorrectly infer I like Warrant (thanks). Would I be wrong to label you a wigger?

booface...

You don't know ONE THING about me so shut up. That's right SHUT UP.

Black people are running the underground laundry mafia while eating fried chicken and white people worship satan through the visage of Barry Manilow.

Discuss!

And what, for goodness sakes, is a wigger?

If you want to talk about racism, how about Mayor Ray Nagin wanting to make New Orleans a "Chocolate City"???

WTF? What would have heppened if Gavin Newsome said that he wanted to make San Francisco a great "Caucasian City"?

People would have flipped out. When a black man says it no one thinks otherwise. Talk about a racist double standard.

98 - Nobody called you racist. I merely made a heap of wild assumptions about you and your lifestyle. So, if that offends you, you have my deepest sympathy, because the last thing I want to do is make a 40-year-old goateed pothead, who subscribes to Spin and has two huskies named Bear and Layla, cry. Fucking racist. You hate me because I'm black don't you? You sicken me.

Osh, you aren't black.

I'm also boycotting chocolate and pre-owned Mercedes Benz!

104 - You are a fucking genius.

writing off a whole genre of music is much different than merely stating you dont like rap (which is still very close minded)

PS you dont have to be a "wigger" to appreciate rap and hiphop. i can guarantee you that you know nothing of rap and have never given it the time of day and are judging it based on some garbage you hear on MTV. i'm not even that huge of a rap fan but im not close minded enough to write if off completley....

I am writing this from deep in whitest Idaho, in my Friday night KKK robes in my fortified compound filled with skinheads and dobermans, and as a member of the master race, I would like to ask:

Does anyone else find it hilarious Mini-Dre named his club after a couple of 40's?

Black people have green blood and rap music is secret code which provides them instructions on their plans to overthrow the white race and corrupt this country with malt liquor and pig's feet.
White people are aliens with chips in their brains who have no sense of smell and that'll why they don't realize how fucking bad they smell and that mayonnaise tastes terrible, and they control the credit system so that your credit score automatically goes up ten points if you drive a Volkswagon and listen to Dave Matthews.

Discuss!

107

How is merely stating that you don't like rap being closed-minded? It's a preference. You hear it, you decide if you like it or not. If you say that you don't like polka, does that mean that you're closed-minded too? Same thing with food.

I HATE eating placenta. Guess that makes Tom Cruise super open-minded.

"Spindoc" what race are the people in NY drinking that shit from the bottle? I may be a cracker, but I'm pretty sure Cristal is a black/rapper/hip hop thang. I do think they'd feel the pinch, cuz seriously I think P Diddy bathes in that stuff...

I don't like cheese... I mean rap.

Love bananas, though!

107... Saying you don't like rap is NOT close minded. It's a preference. I don't care for the swearing and vulgarity.

Yo' nakedhomlessguy, I live in S.F. wanna hit the loin tonight, get naked and drink Cristal? Maybe we can find that cab driver that sells crack

George Bush don't care about Jay-Z

White people masturbate in public and black people rape white women for sport! The black women rape the white women, too!

White people's farts contain enough carbon monoxide to kill 5 lab rats in 30 seconds and black people drink Kool-Aid because it gives them x-ray vision!

Black people put menstrual blood in their spaghetti sauce and never wash their socks out of superstition and white people wash their hair in piss to get it blonde and teach their children to eat their boogers!

Discuss!

Osh - Calm down. Relax. For your info, I am far from 40, never done drugs, don't sunscribe to Spin, don't own dogs, and am not crying. And I am not racist. And I don't hate you, regardless of what color you are. Last time I checked, this was The Superficial... correct? This is the place where we air our opinions on the insanity that is celebrity, and make amusing - if not crude - statements. Jay-Z don't like Cristal, and I don't like Jay-Z. Boo-hoo.

Do you not love bananas? I mean, come on! BANANAS!

UNWASHEDMASSES...

Osh is an idiot... don't feed it. It'll just be stupider and stupider.

#57: "Ummm. I'm fairly certain hating people because of their race does, in fact, qualify as racism. Unless you're in Alabama. Then it's called Christian values."

There's a difference, in my opinion between bigotry (thought) and racism (action), but whatever. I also thinks there's a distinction between racial bias and bigotry, bigotry being full of malice and racial bias being full of stupid.

But we have common ground, as we both can make fun of Alabama. Stupid Alabama! You smell of poops! Take that!

Once again, UNWASHEDMASSES, I did not call you racist. Ok, that second time I did, but you fail to grasp my sarcasm in the sense that I said I was making a heap of assumptions about you, and then continued to make some more. I think you might be the one that needs to relax - it's okay, we believe you, you're not 40 and you don't subscribe to Spin. I am aware of the web address and the name of the site and all that those things imply - I was, in fact, doing that very thing. You don't like rap, we get it.

oshkoshb-goshdammgosh,

Do you have a job or did the Superficial hire you to be at this site ALL DAY to be annoying and try to make people angry just to keep the conversation going? How sad. Hey there is a site that you would love! www.craigslist.com They have a rant and rave section that sounds just like you trying to stir up trouble.

I love those of you that are witty and funny though!

ha ha. this is the most entertaining thread i've read in a long time. thanks osh and jacq, i laughed out loud at a few of your comments.
i always get here too late. by the time i read stuff, annoying people are chasing the funny people away. fuck you bananaperson and lala.

Thank you, 123... I love you, too.

Evangelia ... maybe you get in late because no one wants you here.

Evangelia... like I've never heard that before. Get something original, you retarded idiot. Leave the regulars alone.

And use the shift key. Idiot.

What's wrong with the world, mama
People livin' like they ain't got no mamas
I think the whole world addicted to the drama
Only attracted to things that'll bring you trauma
Overseas, yeah, we try to stop terrorism
But we still got terrorists here livin'
In the USA, the big CIA
The Bloods and The Crips and the KKK
But if you only have love for your own race
Then you only leave space to discriminate
And to discriminate only generates hate
And when you hate then you're bound to get irate, yeah
Madness is what you demonstrate
And that's exactly how anger works and operates
Man, you gotta have love just to set it straight
Take control of your mind and meditate
Let your soul gravitate to the love, y'all, y'all

People killin', people dyin'
Children hurt and you hear them cryin'
Can you practice what you preach
And would you turn the other cheek

Father, Father, Father help us
Send us some guidance from above
'Cause people got me, got me questionin'
Where is the love (Love)

Where is the love (The love)
Where is the love (The love)
Where is the love
The love, the love

It just ain't the same, always unchanged
New days are strange, is the world insane
If love and peace is so strong
Why are there pieces of love that don't belong
Nations droppin' bombs
Chemical gasses fillin' lungs of little ones
With ongoin' sufferin' as the youth die young
So ask yourself is the lovin' really gone
So I could ask myself really what is goin' wrong
In this world that we livin' in people keep on givin'
in
Makin' wrong decisions, only visions of them dividends
Not respectin' each other, deny thy brother
A war is goin' on but the reason's undercover
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If you never know truth then you never know love
Where's the love, y'all, come on (I don't know)
Where's the truth, y'all, come on (I don't know)
Where's the love, y'all

People killin', people dyin'
Children hurt and you hear them cryin'
Can you practice what you preach
And would you turn the other cheek

Father, Father, Father help us
Send us some guidance from above
'Cause people got me, got me questionin'
Where is the love (Love)

Where is the love (The love)
Where is the love (The love)
Where is the love
The love, the love

I feel the weight of the world on my shoulder
As I'm gettin' older, y'all, people gets colder
Most of us only care about money makin'
Selfishness got us followin' our wrong direction
Wrong information always shown by the media
Negative images is the main criteria
Infecting the young minds faster than bacteria
Kids wanna act like what they see in the cinema
Yo', whatever happened to the values of humanity
Whatever happened to the fairness in equality
Instead in spreading love we spreading animosity
Lack of understanding, leading lives away from unity
That's the reason why sometimes I'm feelin' under
That's the reason why sometimes I'm feelin' down
There's no wonder why sometimes I'm feelin' under
Gotta keep my faith alive till love is found

People killin', people dyin'
Children hurt and you hear them cryin'
Can you practice what you preach
And would you turn the other cheek

Father, Father, Father help us
Send us some guidance from above
'Cause people got me, got me questionin'
Where is the love

Where is the love
Where is the love
Where is the love

Mother, mother
There's too many of you crying
Brother, brother, brother
There's far too many of you dying
You know we've got to find a way
To bring some lovin' here today - Ya

Father, father
We don't need to escalate
You see, war is not the answer
For only love can conquer hate
You know we've got to find a way
To bring some lovin' here today

Picket lines and picket signs
Don't punish me with brutality
Talk to me, so you can see
Oh, what's going on
What's going on
Ya, what's going on
Ah, what's going on

In the mean time
Right on, baby
Right on
Right on

Father, father, everybody thinks we're wrong
Oh, but who are they to judge us
Simply because our hair is long
Oh, you know we've got to find a way
To bring some understanding here today
Oh

Picket lines and picket signs
Don't punish me with brutality
Talk to me
So you can see
What's going on
Ya, what's going on
Tell me what's going on
I'll tell you what's going on - Uh
Right on baby
Right on baby

Read the words, yall.

What do the Beastie Boys drink?

#107 Fruit Salad, it isn't Closed minded or open minded to like a form of music. One doesn't control what one likes. This is where your sensitive touchy feely college professor has messed you up.

You can not like a style of music without being closed minded. I'm not a huge fan of Gregorian Chants, this does not make me closed minded. So before you strain your wrist patting yourself on the back because you like some rap songs please know of what you speak.

And Tom Cruise isn't closed minded, he likes Rap and Country Western Cock.

They love the beer.
"..... the beer is gettin flat. Lookin for a girl, I ran into a guy. His name is MCA, I said Howdy, he said HI."

Yes, I am old as the fucking hills, yo.

134

Woo-hoo! Hooray for vintage BB's!

#111 Libraesque

Cristal, the champagne was created in 1876 at the special request of Tsar Alexander II It has since been one of the more famous and recognized Champagne's in the world. The Rap community didn't make the Champagne famous or important, they just discovered what was already a top notch product. The same way that Mercedes wouldn't go out of business if rappers stopped buying their Maybach model.

FuckJay-Z,I'mbanninghisre-makerapmusic,atleastchampagnecangivemeabuzz.

#124

I have to agree, this is some funny shit. Just goes to show you the power Hip Hop I suppose.

Oh yea, TCLTC.

"Chuckin' Mike D to my dismay"
Yeah, I'm old too. Ain't it great?

to all posters,

so let me get this straight, when you all go out to a party do you.

A. go to get drunk (champagne, beer...)
B. listen to jay-z music

yeah, I thought so...

137

So can Benedryl. I'm thoroughly stoned right now. Everyone's voice sounds like,

"Wah-wow, wah-Wooooooowwwwwwww..."

Makes it hard to concentrate at work!

I find it a somewhat ironic that a rap "musician" complains about someone's "racism" (for which there's no evidence, btw). When rap "music" is all about slappin’ hoes and sodomizin’ bitches, killin’ crackas, and the joys and glories of thug-life and violent crime. For examples of anti-White hate and calls for the random raping of White women and killing White men:

http://www.amren.com/rap/rap1.htm

Actually, when I go out to party I listen to Yes and then give your girlfriend my big Land-Cock.

yeah, i thought so.

Aintyamammaonapancakebox?
Brass Monkey that funky monkey...

bigponie,
Does that mean you go to a party to pick up drunk chicks who are gyrating to Jay-z?

Spindoc, whatever I don't need a fucking history lesson on Cristal, may I direct you to this article
http://www.worldmagblog.com/blog/archives/005072.html

I reached in the locker grabbed the Spanish Fly
I put it with the Monkey mixed it in the cup
Went over to the girl, "Yo baby, what's up?"

#141 jane's eyre

are you buzzing right now, god i wish i was there i'd rip your fucking clothes off and eat you up like hay....

#143 Land-Man

my girlfriend is your mom

yeah, i thought so

whoa bigponie!!! RIDE!!!

Racism is not hating someone because of the color of their skin; that's colorism. I, for instance, hate the color mauve and if I run across a mauve person I will hate them, but only the part that has the color mauve on it, all the rest is fine, like the internal organs and such...

Stupid mauve.

YEEEEEEEEE-haaaawwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!!!!

Wow, the five rappers who make enough money to regularly drink Cristal are going to boycott...Mr. Stal is shaking in his shiny Euro-trash boots.

#142

Are you seriously going to quote a flash in the pan rapper from 1993? The gist of MOST hip hop lyrics has nothing to do with killing whitey. Smackin' hoes, yes, but killing whitey? Are you still upset that the South lost the war? I am. I was talking about killing whitey yesterday. Then I just rolled over, put the knife down, and told my wife to go back to sleep... daddy was just having another noghtmare.

http://www.toothpastefordinner.com/061006/myspace-rappers.gif

Boy, I was really one-upped by bigponie there. I'll just sneak off in disgrace after his brilliant rejoinder. I never saw a 'mom' joke coming, no one uses those!

#130. I know, that song was a joke, but Whipper 'sploded and I got distracted, ... But check this out, boyz!

Young man,
there's no need to feel down.
I said, young man,
pick yourself off the ground.
I said, young man,
'cause you're in a new town
there's no need to be unhappy.

Young man,
there's a place you can go.
I said, young man,
when you're short on your dough.

You can stay there,
and I'm sure you will find
many ways to have a good time.

It's fun to stay at the y-m-c-a.
It's fun to stay at the y-m-c-a.

Well, gotta go kiddies. It's Friday night and you know what that means..."You Gotta Fight for Your Right to Paaaarrrrrttttyyyy!!"
Which in my case means, drinking a couple of glasses of Boone's Farm, popping some calcium, to protect my hips so they don't break when I fall in drunken stupor and being asleep by 9:30 EST. Have fun, you young hooligans!

99. "You don't know ONE THING about me so shut up. That's right SHUT UP."

You are an annoying, cognitively challenged, young, white male who copulates across species boundaries. Oh, and you're really gay.

Sorry, I couldn't stop with just the one, ...

@142 yeah nice try there Adolf, I hate what these corporate "gangstas" have done to the genre, but rapping about something is different than actually doing it, which is what white/europeans have done for hundreds of years to EVERY other race.

save it for your next cross burning faggot.

Am I...

annoying... no
cognitively challenged... no
young, white male... okay, yeah
who copulates across species boundaries... no, idiot.

Oh, and you're really gay... no.

You're a loser.

161. Wound with harsh criticisms and cunning wit, you do. Yet, an annoying, gay, goat-lover you are.

Mmmmm.

Way to fight the racial divide, Jay-Z! I had almost forgotten that you're black with all that homogenized white-friendly (c)rap you've been manufacturing. I bet this protest will be almost as effective as Oprah's boycott of Hermes. She really showed them.

Jay Z has started to dress like Bob Hope.

@ 149 and 159 --- freaking hysterical
@156-- go away before I shove your "land-cock" up your "land ass" and infect you with Paris Hilton's herpes juice.

165 Who the fuck are you? Land-Man could kill you with his thumb.

The comic Chris Rock in one of his HBO stand ups, said something I thought was very funny, and dead-on... loosely quoted... "There are black people, and then there are niggers"... in my mind there is no question which category this bozo falls into... Can we all say... N-I-G-G-E-R... For another great example of an uppity opportunistic jackass, please refer to the Bruce Willis link... I mean for god sakes, how many more times does he have to apologize !?!?! ... It was a mistake fuck-wad... http://showbiz.lulop.com/player.php/6471/01

i say i am glad JZ let everyone know about that because when you can afford things like Cristal or Hermes it really pisses you off to find out some asshole would rather you not spend your lotsa dollars on something even if you buy it for a stupid reason, when you got money, alot of money you can buy whatever the hell you want and so you do, and then you hear something like that, a racist comment, whether its racist against black or hip hop or rap, its a bit like bull shit to me because "THe Economist" or whatever the mag is full of it because they dont understand that this world is not the same ignorant world it used to be, the "Economy" is not relying on white rich people anymore, minorities, ghetto, whatever you want to call them dont matter anymore, look at all the white kids now with there little jobs in retail and living off their parents, in their parents houses, things are very diffrent now, I have lotsa money now and I think people have a big problem with that and they feel the need to talk about it, by it i mean someone with a good background, make an article of it, so big deal to me, racism is not going anywhere, but that doesnt matter to me, you just keep spending and having things that make people with itty bitty little coach bags stare, I just figure if I am loving life I guess nothing else really matters, but at least I now know not to buy Cristal now, besides I like Bacardi when I go out anyways....

Why is it that only white people are the racists? Black people are racist too.

#66. some old rap was ok(i'm partial to run dmc), but the beastie boys do not count as rap, first of all, they suck, second, the ONLY reason they are even in existance is because mike d is neil dimond's son, and he's always had daddy's money to fund him in anything he did, and daddy's connections to studio producers...I for one am sick of all these black people(i have nothing against black people in general) who act like asshole and every time someone says something they dont like, they scream racism, if you do something blatantly rude and someone calls you a prick, it's NOT because of your race, it's because you really are a prick. I'm also sick of people who say how racist white people are, and then use the words, honkey, cracker, or whitey in the same sentence.

I think the person who said that the Cristal people are upset over the fact that their highly-esteemed, world renowned product has been reduced to just another name-drop in a rap song is right. Not even good rap songs, but ones about bitches and hos and shooting and all that shit. It's just a matter of pride in their product. I seriously doubt that Cristal will feel the burn of JZ's wrath.

That being said, I believe that niggers come in all colors. Trust me, if a word existed that equally crossed color lines instead of being mainly associated with blacks, I'd use that, too. Before anyone calls me racist, let me reiterate my position:

I like black people, Arab people, Indian people, Asians, Hispanics, whites, mixed, whomever. I hate their low-down, welfare riding, lazy, thieving, stealing, whining, wanting, crying, bitching, not contributing to society, scummy counterparts, as I am sure all respective respectable people do.

I hate to even get started on this topic. It's not about race, it's about being a responsible member of society. If JZ felt that the comment was racist, negative, or even applied to him, then that says more about him than the person who said it. Maybe he realizes that the lifestyle mentioned is not the best example to be set for young people to follow. Maybe it's a guilt thing more than a race thing.

Maybe JZ needs to rethink his contributions to his race. Is he a philanthropist? If he is, I never heard about it. And I don't mean some drop-in-the-bucket off the wall charity that put his name out there more than it actually helps those it's set up for. True charity doesn't need a nameplate to mean something. Someone correct me if I'm wrong; I'd love to hear about another respectable black man helping young people move onward and upward with their lives.

@102

For fuck's sake, it's NEWSOM. And Nagin calling for New Orleans to be a "chocolate" city is NOT racist. In fact, no one ever knew about Nagin until Katrina... if you did, you'd see how Nagin's politics is actually pretty fuckin "vanilla" as a wealthy Bush supporter himself. Do you remember the original concept of suburbia? It was supposed to be white people only-- so calling for people that have been historically oppressed, to be empowered, is NOT racist.

"...which is what white/europeans have done for hundreds of years to EVERY other race.

save it for your next cross burning faggot."

Save your Afrocentrist bullshit for people who don't know any better. If it wasn't for Europeans, you'd still be living in trees and dying of chicken pox.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/006019247X/002-3293915-0788026?v=glance&n=283155

#126
that doesn't make sense, but kudos for your efforts to use "logic".

I like JayZ. He can rap real good. But I would like to hear is view in a hip hop track about the benefits of Bukkake. I like Bukkake... alot

Allegations of racism aside, Cristal knows it's dangerous to become too associated with people who don't appreciate the artistry involved with their product (e.g., drinking it through straws or swigging from the bottle). The wine industry is one of the few where they seem to really care about this. For example, I remember reading that in the 1970s, the Rolling Stones weren't able to buy really expensive wine in the villages near their French chateaux when it became known that their cook was using it for cooking (e..g., splash a little Chateau Marmoset into the pan alongside the pork chops). Likewise, the top wine merchants sometimes won't sell the best products in areas where they are known to dilute their wine with water or 7-Up.

@172: How is him asking for a chocolate city not racist? He basically said that all he wants living there, or all who should be living there, are blacks. What if he had called for a vanilla city? NAACP, ACLU, etc., would have been all over that shit talking about hatred against blacks. If he wasn't being racist, then why did he have to come up with some stupid coverup comment about adding chocolate to vanilla and getting a delicious drink? He knew he was being racist but he couldn't help himself. Once it was out, he had to think of something stupid to explain it away.

I can't even imagine how loud the outcry would have been if someone, anyone, had said that NO needs to be vanilla, or how vanilla is better than chocolate, or too much chocolate is bad for you, or anything similar. God wanted the blacks living there? Did he also want the blacks causing the highest per capita murder rate in the country? So much crime, so much of the 'thug life' going on that no one could see past it. Which poster talked about how when she was in school, the black kids who tried hard and got good grades got picked on for trying to be white? The black race holds itself back so much, then blames whitey. There are way too many respectable, hardworking, responsible black people out there to lump them all together, but living in the NO area, mostly what I saw was the trash, the lowlifes, the niggers.

I'm still waiting for someone to explain to me how a 20-something black man who has children to support and no real tax base to speak of, can afford 5k of rims and tires, 2k of stereo equipment, 3k of video dropped in the headrests and trunk, custom bowling-ball paint jobs, and just not have 20.00 left over to BUY A FUCKING BELT!

hahhaa lambananas gained points with the ymca.

he's just being a negro, overspirited. Maybe he'll proclaim clowns as racist and stop dressing like one. negro!

#177
I never usually post on the weekends. But I'm really hungover and have to wait a few hours until I make myself hungover again.

"Chocolate City" was an unfortunate remark. Unfortunate because most of America isn't familiar with the New Orleans colloquialism of "chocolate" meaning "chocolate milk". It's a hangover from French. What Nagin meant to imply was, as he put it later, "you take dark chocolate and white milk, and you get a delicious drink". That is - a city of white and black. People really need to let it go. I'm fucking sick of listening to white people on Fox News bitch about it.

#121 I appreciate the semantic distinction you're attempting to make between "racism" and "bigotry". "Racism" is not, as you contend, dictated by action only. My argument with your initial statement was based on the dictionary definition. Hating black people because they're black really *is* racism. Trust me.

I hope that most of you recognize that there is a lot of really good hip hop out there, it's just not played on MTV or your local Clear Channel station. Try listening to some Brother Ali or anyone else from RhymeSayers, or Chicago artists like Vakill, Juice, or Qwel and RJD2 hip hop will sound like nothing you've ever heard. Even some of Jay-z's old tapes are pretty good... it's just a shame at how superficial he got. Erm...he's pretty stupid to lump all of popular rap into one race anyway, as I'm pretty sure Eminem guzzling Cristal would elicit the same response. And those were my deep thoughts of the day. Time to go sit on the couch.

Jay-Z is racist because he says that only black people can be in hip hop.

Lame Banana

Shut up already with your stupid "statements" that you think warrant any kind of "Discuss"ion.

Go back in the hole that you came out of.

Dr. Rok-

Lived here all my life, man, and never heard such a thing. I never heard anyone ask for chocolate milk by just asking for chocolate. If someone is asked, "What milk do you want?" and the answer is chocolate, then the answer could just as easily be 'vanilla' or white. Trust me, I am the first to admit I am wrong when I am, so if there is some example you can give me that validates Nagin's veiled attempt at racism (I will see it that way until proven otherwise), I will gladly rethink my position on his statements.

I am not the only person who believes he just made something up to cover his ass; what other example could he have given of chocolate and 'vanilla' or white homogenizing into something where the whole is better than, or at least equal to, its parts? Nope. Don't buy it. He even looked contrite when he made that lame-assed statement about chocolate and milk.

Give me something to think about, man. I would love to feel more positive about Nagin's position on rebuilding the city.

LickyLicky

Ugh. Still hungover. It's not a common thing. I only lived in NO for a few years, but I heard chocolate a couple of times. Mostly I *did* hear the normal "chocolate milk", to be fair. I dunno. I'm not getting down on you, I'm just a little angry at the whole reaction from some people who are a little too eager to jump on the race thing. I'm not a Nagin fan in the least (Morial was mayor when I lived there), and I think he's done a piss-poor job of things from start to finish. You could well be right that he's covering his ass, though. I'm not really sure. Friends of mine from NO seem fairly equally divided about it. I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, as I found it hard to believe even *he* could be that stupid. But, maybe he is. Sucks for New Orleans, that's for sure.

"51. Posted by oshkoshb-goshdammgosh on June 16, 2006 03:28 PM
Don't talk to me you ignorant nose-monster. People that vehemently hate rap music are either A) boring B) very old or C) skinheads. It's a fact.
I'm guessing you're A."

I would bet that far more than half of the population in the US hates (or is apathetic about) rap music and that many of those don't even consider it legitimate "music." It's called variance in opinion. You think it makes them boring, old, or skinheads....

I, on the other hand, think it means they have some taste. Just another variance in opinion. Not everyone considers the highest common denominator in music to be slapping hos, knockin pussy, and bragging about money.

@170 Odium
Mike Diamond from the Beasties is not Neil Diamond's son.Neil's children are Marjorie and Elyn. They only thing they have in common is that Rick Rubin, who was the mastermind behind "Licensed to Ill" recently produced Neil Diamond's latest CD. I won't deny the fact that the Beasties are privileged white boys that "borrowed" from a lot of musical genres, not just rap, and made it successful. You gotta give them credit though for putting their own mark and originality on their music. And you can bet that they never screamed that anybody was Anti-Semite or Anti-Buddhist, because they don't flagrantly flaunt the fact they can afford such things as Cristal and gold chains and the rest of that bullshit. Yo!

Mike D is Neil Diamond's son? That is the single funniest thing I have heard all week. I can't believe I have lived all these many long years and never met anyone stupid enough to say that. It's totally, awesomely asinine. Yes, they are rich kids ( Growing up in The Village doesn't hold much street cred), but they NEVER tried to front like they were street, nor did they ever flaunt any real or imagined wealth. IMHO, they are witty, talented, and smart. #170, Odium: you need to check your head. And cash your check. And bring some cash. And sling some hash. And do the instant-mash. I won't even mention the clash.

Hmmmm, it's interesting that Jay-Z is now head of Def Jam, which Rick Rubin and Russell Simmons founded. Six Degrees of Beasties? Or Mike Diamond for that matter. He always was my favourite Beastie.

@173...I call your statement bullshit and you an ignorant racist. You can't prove a FUCKING thing you are spewing.

Minorities will not be minorities for long you fucking racist piece of shit.

There's not a fucking thing you can do about it, you're gonna have niggaz and cholos and gooks up ya' ass (And yeah, did the white race bring the asians down from the trees also?)

It's cool. I always appreciate another opinion or viewpoint, even if it proves mine wrong. I'd rather hear the truth and be wrong than spout lies to look right.
I live just outside of NO, and worked in NO East for many years, which, if you recall, is black by a vast majority. Being in the business I'm in now, insurance appraisals, I go from the GNO area all the way to Lafayette, and almost everywhere in between. I've dealt with people of every race, creed, religion, nationality, sexual orientation and class, so I have a lot to base an opinion of people on. I hope you realize by now that I am definitely not a racist, but, I guess a 'classist'. I just hate trashy people of any color. It's mainly a responsiblility thing. If everyone were responsible for their own actions and didn't rely on the crutch of racism to either prove or disprove their plight, the world would be so much better.

I honestly think Nagin got caught up in the emotion of the moment and all the focus on the issue of whether GWB doesn't care about black people, how many blacks got left behind in the ninth, and basically, the idea that they were all just forgotten while white people were eating caviar and sipping Cristal, sleeping under down comforters in their air conditioned rooms at the Waldorf-Astoria. If anyone believes that, then remind me to tell you stories about the white people I know who died, got trapped in attics, sucked under by water, etc., just like the blacks.

Doc, you still make me pee myself with your comments; we'll just have to agree to disagree. If we can't do that, we can always smear lamebananas with honey and tie him to an anthill to vent our frustration over it.

Dr. Rok-

Lived here all my life, man, and never heard such a thing. I never heard anyone ask for chocolate milk by just asking for chocolate. If someone is asked, "What milk do you want?" and the answer is chocolate, then the answer could just as easily be 'vanilla' or white. Trust me, I am the first to admit I am wrong when I am, so if there is some example you can give me that validates Nagin's veiled attempt at racism (I will see it that way until proven otherwise), I will gladly rethink my position on his statements.

I am not the only person who believes he just made something up to cover his ass; what other example could he have given of chocolate and 'vanilla' or white homogenizing into something where the whole is better than, or at least equal to, its parts? Nope. Don't buy it. He even looked contrite when he made that lame-assed statement about chocolate and milk.

Give me something to think about, man. I would love to feel more positive about Nagin's position on rebuilding the city.

The comic Chris Rock in one of his HBO stand ups, said something I thought was very funny, and dead-on... loosely quoted... "There are black people, and then there are niggers"... in my mind there is no question which category this bozo falls into... Can we all say... N-I-G-G-E-R... For another great example of an uppity opportunistic jackass, please refer to the Bruce Willis link... I mean for god sakes, how many more times does he have to apologize !?!?! ... It was a mistake fuck-wad... http://showbiz.lulop.com/player.php/6471/01

Licky Licky--

I guess the argument just made sense in my head... haha.

This article says it better than I can.

http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?ItemID=9620

you all make me sick
chocolate is a state of mind
not a skin colour

so get a fucking grip
get your own lifes
we're using ours
and until you understand
you can't have ours

so fro...

BarbadoSlim...

Direct question...
How was the statement in #173 false?

Now, give me a direct answer...
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I'd respect Jay's stand on this...Only he he'd stopped being so ignorant, and opened up a dictionary. Can't he see what he's doing by automaticly associating the Hip Hop community to a race????????? URRR @ YOU JAY MR.Z!

krwlng54

Aww, thats cute how u think people outside america view hip-hop as sme kinda cool multi-cultural fusion thingy, it really is.

But sadly, it aint so, cause u see, the vast majority of hippity hop that people see outsidea america (an dare i say inside america), IS by black people. So Mr.Z is rite on this one.

I've never even tasted Cristal, and already it's been termed racist champagne?

going waaay back to the beginning of these comments:

#15

hehe....funny shit right there :)

#197: In what language are you typing?

Some of these comments are just stupid. All the dumb bull$*it that you guys are talking about "rappers and thugs" doing was, and still is, being done by rockers and punks. Hell musicians have wild parties. I dont think the comment was overtly racist, but dude took offense to it. You idiotic flesh piles who tag all this ignorant behavior on rap music should comment suicide. Unless your favorite music is classical, opera, or bluegrass, chances are your favorite musician is into some wild $^%t.

196. On second thought, how 'bout I just go fuck my racist cocksucking self. Yeah, that sounds like a good idea ...

Diamond, thanks for the interesting read. I want to go back and read it again; I was pressed for time when I read it the first time, and I'm tired now. I do wish you had posted it when you made your original comment; perhaps it would have given more people more to think about. I did pick up on two points:

1. Blacks and whites view racism differently. I think I understand where that comes from because I am from an area around the city that's basically considered the asshole of the state. As soon as I tell someone where I'm from, they assume that I'm white, fat, and stupid. One out of three doesn't cut it. Point is, I have to fight the prejudice of living where I do and being lumped in with the three-out-of-threes on a regular basis. The thing I have a problem with is the black reaction to the whole mess. Let me give you an example that I, personally, have experienced numerous times over the years. I look at cars (mostly) for insurance companies. White, black, asian, whatever, the owner doesn't bother me. Insurance fraud crosses all the races equally. I've been given scenarios that Johnny Cochran couldn't have defended in court from all across the race lines. White people, primarily, when realizing they have been caught in a lie, will either back down or threaten me with their attorney. No problem; I can defend myself, and have numerous times, against an attorney. My photos don't lie, my parts lists don't lie, I don't lie. Black people, primarily, when realizing they have been caught in a lie, will either change their story or threaten my family and me PERSONALLY. That, I can't defend myself against. I had to get a POBox and change the heading on all of my appraisals, taking off my convenient physical address, because I had a man named Charles call me 22 times in 20 minutes, threaten my husband, my family, my business, my life, because he wasn't getting a new transmission out of a rear-end bump. Another one, Ms. Alfreta, got in my face and screamed at me while lying about her damage, telling me everything she was willing to do to me. Those are two examples, the two I recall best. If you don't want me to treat you like a piece of shit, then don't revert to acting like a piece of shit. I never had anything like those two happen with white people, and they tell the best lies! It's not okay for a black person to automatically assume that I will automatically assume they are a nigger. I don't. I assume that every black person is an equal member of society, right there with me, until they prove otherwise. Same thing with white people being white trash (I wish there were a better word than white trash). You assuming what I am going to assume and then treating me a certain way based on that assumption is no better than me assuming anything about you in the first place, is it?

2. White people all made a mass exodus to the suburbs to get away from blacks? That, to me, is absurd. I don't care how great a writer that dude is, that is just stupid. The simple fact is that there is only so much room in the city, so people spread out. Outlying areas are going to be less populated because, there are fewer people in a larger area. Just like a bullseye's rings get larger as they move outward, hence the scoring on those areas being lower because they are easier to hit, so is the area around any city. An exception would be an island, like Japan, with only limited room anyway. I can't believe that someone would actually believe that highways are actually a big plot by the government to get whites the hell outta black Dodge! Maybe there's more to that particular idea. Admittedly, I read it quickly and need to read it again when I have time to really put it all in context and maybe link a few other sites and articles.

krwling, I agree that all he did was solidify the idea that the high-profile lifestyle of which Cristal spoke of is one associated with thugs, hip-hop, whatever. As to your dissenter, well, just because the idea and opinion is there doesn't mean he has to prove it. I'd rather keep my mouth shut and be thought a fool than open it an have it proven. Once again, he solidified that idea; he gave them what they wanted. The man even said that maybe DP or Krug would want their business.

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Undoubtedly some of these comments are stupid, but you calling people "idiotic flesh piles" that should "comment" suicide pretty well tags you as a fucking idiot, too.

If you're going to try to come off as superior, learn some vocabulary.

Also, in case you don't know, everyone is entitled to an opinion and viewpoint. FACTS can be right or wrong, OPINIONS cannot. I learned that in about second or third grade. Where were you?

Jay-z is yet another enormous douchebag. That guys comments weren't racist. The guy was talking about people that have a flasy lifestyle. Nowhere did he say black keep buying our products and its hurting us. More people can afford piss in a bottle besides African-american rappers( I didnt dare sound racist there) *Wonders if Bill Gates drinks Cristal.

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You are so completely right, that you could not be more right... Without European WHITEY the people on this planet would still be living in huts in the dark at night, and throwing rocks and spears at each other and at rabbits in the day... Sorry #190-BarbadoSlim, but that is an undisputable fact of history and life...

You go girl.

Jay Z is one fucking hypocrite. So he can blast gays and women in his records but he goes mental if someone (apparently) makes some comment on hip hop culture. What a total pair of bollocks. I hate Jay Z, he needs to get his head out of his arse and get rid of that huge chip on his shoulder!

Wanker.

Oh and why is everything racist these days? Over here in England we have been banned from flying our own St Georges Flag because it offends some ethnic minorities... That shit would NEVER happen in America. If someone said to you guys to take down your stars and stripes you'd tell them to fuck off! But everyones so scared of offending someone else, even if it means banning your own countrys flag. 8-) Fuck political correctness!

For all of you still absurdly and cowardly holding onto the ideas of Euro\ American supremacy and the roots and definition of racism, please take the 7 minutes to listen to "Nature of the Threat" by Ras Kass. It may be a bit overbearing for some staunch anti-everyone-but-European decendents, but it does point out some very important historical data i.e., all of the institutions you credit with civilizing tree climbers and hut dwellers originated from Roman\ Greek civilization, which of course has its roots in Black Egypt, Ethiopia, and Somolia. A critical reading of Greek history in particular will expose this quite plainly. We all know the reason for the hateful ire is similar to that of Huck's father in Mark Twain's Huckleberry Finn: a need to feel superior to ANYTHING when the chips are down.

All that said, TCLTC.

one thing that i don't understand is how, white people can say that they dont understand why the race card was played?! Most, not all, but most, white people think that we are on a level playing field! that isn't true and we should all know that! regardless is the guy was French or not, it was a racist remark because it came from the company.

simply put......tell me what Cristal is in the business of? Champagne! What does champagne make? money! The more money that Cristal makes the better off they are! Now to me that is the bottom line! For them to come out and say that the "hip-hop community brings them unwanted attention" is so crazy i don't understand it!

A Lot of you wrote about how hip hop glorifies violence and sex and all else wrong with society today right? Well tell me something.......that show sex in the city.....what was it about? Sex!!!!! All these tv shows on the air now.....Prison Break, 24, etc....what do they all glorify to a certain extint? Violence!!! What was the main attraction in Mission Impossible 1, 2, and 3? Special effects glorifying violence!!! why is ok for all of these types of messages to be mainstream but rap is wrong, rap degrates this and that! its all over if you going to place blame, then place it all over not just at one genre!

That said, Cristal, is stupid moreso than racist, but racist nonetheless! The only reason that i can see them noit wanting hip hop to promote their brand, either intentionally or unintentionally is because they felt they wouldn't be able to get the elder rich white people to buy it anymore! right or wrong? why else would you not want to make money? I mean c'mon, Cristal does not taste all that good to begin with, it was all about the prestige of having it! why else would you spend ungodly amounts of money on something that tastes bad! However, if Jay Z is promoting it, damn near anybody who can afford the shit, including drug dealers, con men, lawyers, doctors whoever that follows Jigga would want to buy it! That is just crazy to me, to single out a genre that is making you bundles and bundles of money! I don't blame Jay for not wanting to buy the nasty shit! And those of you who said Cristal would still make money is right......but not nearly as much as they would have! Jay Z represents power in the hip hop community and for him to denounce the brand, many are likely to follow!